Suggestion:20081120 Judo

20081120 Judo

Shirax 00:32, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion type
Skill

Suggestion scope
Survivors

Suggestion description
Judo is available to buy after hand-to-hand combat is adquired. It doubles the damage and accuracy of the punch. After purchasing judo, another skill becomes available: Judo Grip. After landing a hit on a zombie, the survivor has %60 chances of grabbing it, adding another %25 to punch accuracy. It is basically a survivors Tangling Grasp. Last but not least, after buying Judo Grip, a last skill becomes available: Judo Throw. When the zombie has less than 15 HP, a survivor can throw it out of the building (Extremely useful for clearing buildings). Again, it is similar to the Feeding Drag. The zed receives 2 damage points from the throw.

Voting Section

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Keep Votes

1. Author Vote: Justified. --Shirax 00:34, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Kill Votes

1. Kill - Because of the zombie-clearing skill. Dumping dead bodies outside is okay, but throwing characters who are still alive and are controlled by other people interferes with others' enjoyment of the game. --Pestolence^(talk) 01:27, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
2. Kill Firstly its incomplete. You don't mention whether the zombie who is thrown is standing or lying down. Secondly, its quite wasteful. Unless you damage a zombie its impossible to know its on less than 15hp, so you would waste an awful lot of ap on what could be a healthy zombie. (You know what i mean).--Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 08:54, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
3. Kill If these attacks work on survivors then the griefing potential is too high. If they only work on zombies then it's out-of-genre. Also the zombie-clearing aspect is overpowered. --Explodey 12:25, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Spam/Dupe Votes

1. Spam - Overpowered and illogical. You really want to grab hold of a creature that can bite and infect you with a disease that turns you into one of them? --Papa Moloch 02:11, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
2. Spam - Incomplete. What barricade levels allow throwing zombies out of buildings? And no, the answer won't change my vote; even if its "open doors only" as with Feeding Drag, this is unbalanced and out of genre.  Swiers 02:45, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
3. Spam You should have started this on the dicussion page, then you would have known it wasn't worth bringing here to vote.--Pesatyel 03:37, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
4. Spam - Before anyone votes dupe, this is not a dupe because of the tangling-grasp system. But, as Swires. Overpowered and out of genre. Linkthewindow  Talk  05:21, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
5. Spam - As Swiers. --Midianian ^{Big Brother Diary Room: [509,20]} 09:13, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
6. Spam - For the same reasons as everyone else who voted Spam. --Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T.} 09:26, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
7. Spam --- the magnificent seventh spam vote. justification as above. --WanYao 12:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

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