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Developing Suggestions

This section is for general discussion of suggestions for the game Urban Dead.

It also includes the capacity to pitch suggestions for conversation and feedback.

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How To Make a Discussion

Adding a New Discussion

To add a general discussion topic, please add a Tier 3 Header (===Example===) below, with your idea or proposal.

Adding a New Suggestion

• To add a new suggestion proposal, copy the code in the box below.
• Click here to begin editing. This is the same as clicking the [edit] link to the right of the Suggestions header.

• Paste the copied text above the other suggestions, right under the heading.
• Substitute the text in RED CAPITALS with the details of your suggestion.
• The process is illustrated in this image.

{{subst:DevelopingSuggestion
|time=~~~~
|name=SUGGESTION NAME
|type=TYPE HERE
|scope=SCOPE HERE
|description=DESCRIPTION HERE
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• Name - Give the suggestion a short but descriptive name.
• Type is the nature of the suggestion, such as a new class, skill change, balance change.
• Scope is who or what the suggestion affects. Typically survivors or zombies (or both), but occasionally Malton, the game interface or something else.
• Description should be a full explanation of your suggestion. Include information like flavor text, search odds, hit percentages, etc, as appropriate. Unless you are as yet unsure of the exact details behind the suggestion, try not to leave out anything important. Check your spelling and grammar.

Cycling Suggestions

• Suggestions with no new discussion in the past month may be cycled without notice.

Please add new discussions and suggestions to the top of the list

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Suggestions

Brain Eater

Timestamp: Jebidijed 8 May 2013

Type: Headshot Mechanic

Scope: Everyone, but mostly Zombie PKers

Description: As a generic zombie, you should obviously be able to eat someone's brain. It would be a child move of Digestion and would have a 5% to 10% chance of happening. Did you ever want the people who headshotted you to suffer the same agony that you went through by requiring 15 AP to stand up? Well, now you can with the brain eating skill!

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Super fun happy time

Timestamp: 21:16, 6 May 2013 (BST)

Type: Good

Scope: Everyone

Description: +1 to all damage. perhaps +2 to shotguns because 11/9 is silly. Infections still cause 1 HP loss at a time, digestion still gains 4, FAK healing is still at the same rates (5/10/15). Why? Increased turnaround in all deaths--minor pro-death bias is obvious but this also makes killing and clearing out zombies easier too, which should make beachhead tactics slightly less effective too, rendering sieges slightly more balanced. I'm sure it's been suggested before, but what matters is that it's being suggested by me. 21:16, 6 May 2013 (BST)

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Bicycles

Timestamp: Stefan Kozlov 22:18, 6 May 2013 (BST)

Type: Item and skills

Scope: Survivors

Description: If you search a park or some other block (not sure on this one), you have a 1.5% chance of finding a bicycle. It takes up 20% encumbrance and when used for 1 AP, gives the user a 50% chance to not take an AP to move a block. That said, the streets are full of rubble, and the rider has a 50% chance to fall on their face for 1 damage, which they can't die from, but causes them to lose the bike. The skill "offroad biking", under the civilian tree, decreases the fall chance to 20%, and the skill "competitive offroad biking" decreases it to 5%. You cannot attack or use an item from a bike. You cannot ride a bike inside. You can be attacked and die on a bike. When you dismount for 1 AP, the bike disappears.

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Angry Flying Koala Attack

Timestamp: -.- 04:11, 4 May 2013 (BST)

Type: Weapon

Scope: survivors

Description: If you search in the zoo, you can find an angry Koala that you can throw at anyone at a 50% rate, if it hits, it claws the crap out of the targets face and does 5 damage.

Discussion (Angry Flying Koala Attack)

No, no, and more damn no. Although the concept is humorous, it's just nonsensical in a ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE. Jebidijed 4 May, 2013

You destroyed all my hopes.-.- 03:40, 5 May 2013 (BST)

Humorous. I always support the use of living things as weaponry. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 19:04, 5 May 2013 (BST)

The game you are looking for is the other zombie mmo die2nite --Rosslessness 21:25, 5 May 2013 (BST)

I could suggest a variety of throwable animals to be placed within the game; squirrels, squids, leprechauns, cats. -.- 23:33, 5 May 2013 (BST)

This is unrealistic. Now, if the koala were an event with a chance to drop on your head and devour you unless you smeared toothpaste behind your ear, that would be authentic, by crikey. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 03:48, 6 May 2013 (BST)

Oh ho ho, so you suggest it happen as a random event? Inside of the zoo? -.- 03:51, 6 May 2013 (BST)

As the only Aussie to have commented in this discussion so far, I believe Rev has the most experience in dealing with attacking koalas, so I'll defer to his judgment, whatever it might be. —Aichon— 05:07, 6 May 2013 (BST)

Ok, so how do I put this up for voting now? -.- 06:14, 6 May 2013 (BST)

Follow whatever instructions Rev posts. He'll never lead you astray. Ever. —Aichon— 06:29, 6 May 2013 (BST)

Alrighty, lets do this Rev. -.- 16:48, 6 May 2013 (BST)

FYI submitting humourous suggestions is considered vandalism in case you weren't aware. ~ _{17:33, 6 May 2013 (UTC)}

There's no need to be jealous of my awesome suggestion Vapor d; -.- 00:53, 7 May 2013 (BST)

Actually, I forgot that we abolished that silly rule a while back. And I have no reason to be jealous. I did after all submit the wiki's first humorous suggestion after aforementioned vandalism rule was abolished. ~ _{04:06, 7 May 2013 (UTC)}

You can't play along? Sheesh-.- 07:11, 7 May 2013 (BST)

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More Effective Zerg Flags

Timestamp ~ _{00:37, 4 May 2013 (UTC)}
Type Mechanics
Scope Zergs
Description
Currently, people that are flagged by the server as having used multiple characters within ten blocks of one another get penalized with lower than normal hit/search percentages. Why is that percentage not zero? I think the only succesful action a zerg should be able to take is movement.

More Effective Zerg Flags (Discussion)

Discuss. Dupe me if you've heard this one before. ~ _{00:37, 4 May 2013 (UTC)}

The reason it's not zero is probably because it can be triggered accidentally. However, with dwindling numbers making this much less likely I'd say there's a good case for that being much less of a concern now. I say go for it. 01:20, 4 May 2013 (BST)

Sure, accidents happen. People slip up and get flagged even when not playing alts cooperatively. They'll slip up less often if there's more incentive to play it carefully, though so there's an added bonus. Might suck the first time it happens to you but it will probably be the last slip up you make. ~ _{02:53, 4 May 2013 (UTC)}

The zerg flags are nearly useless as it is, but sure, why not. I would like zergs to have a failure chance when speaking too, for added lulz around those zergtacular RPers. --RadicalWhig 06:16, 4 May 2013 (BST)

I feel like I remember something where if two alts were standing on the border opposite one another, say in Roywood and Pescodside, that could trigger the Zerg Flag. Or maybe it would tell you your safehouse was through the border when really it was wrapping around the map. Would that affect this? Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 19:04, 5 May 2013 (BST)

I've never heard of that but if that is the case, then I'd probably suggest that fixed as well. Don't suppose that could be confirmed or disproven, could it? ~ _{20:49, 5 May 2013 (UTC)}

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Suicide

Timestamp: -.- 02:35, 3 May 2013 (BST)

Type: survivor option

Scope: survivors, death cult

Description: It's pretty simple, if you have a shotgun with ammo or pistol with ammo, you can use 10 AP to shoot yourself and you die.

Discussion (Suicide)

You can already jump from a few different types of buildings in the game to commit suicide. And if you're parachuting, you can already use infection to kill yourself indoors. No need for an additional way to do it. —Aichon— 17:02, 3 May 2013 (BST)

jumping out of the building puts you outside and getting infected to die isn't as straight forward as just shooting yourself in the face. -.- 21:49, 3 May 2013 (BST)

Sure, but why is that necessary? So far, you haven't addressed what the motivation is for this change at all. Near as I can tell, the only thing it would do is make parachuting easier, which runs contrary to the design of the game. The game makes a point of not providing skills or abilities specifically to benefit roles that don't conform to the standard zombie or survivor ones, and in many cases actively discourages such roles (e.g. XP is halved when PKers are attacking survivors, I believe), and I think that's a trend that should continue, since those roles are meant to exist in the gaps between the others, rather than being officially supported ones. Besides which, simply from the perspective of balance, I think it's a good thing that parachuting is as difficult to accomplish as it is, since it's a very powerful technique that has an appropriate cost at the moment. —Aichon— 10:53, 4 May 2013 (BST)

Dupe. Suggested many, many times before. Next time, you might want to search a little first. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 11:12, 4 May 2013 (BST)

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Free running out of ruined buildings

Timestamp: PayneTrain 14:04, 11 April 2013 (BST)

Type: game mechanic?i think..

Scope: zombies/survivors

Description: even after ruining a building survivors can free run out of the building,but not come back in because it's too damaged?what the fuck is up with that? So my suggestion basically states that the Harmanz should be given a 70% chance of failing when free running out of ruined buildings as the buildings can still act as Entry points even if they are ruined,which kind of ruins the point of ruining.

Discussion (Free running out of ruined buildings)

I've always liked it how it is. It's a nice balance, in that as zombies ruin a suburb, it gives survivors more of a chance to get indoors. Plus, doing it this way would effectively allow zombies to create clusters of buildings that are effectively pinatas. I.e. Surround an area of blocks that are EHB with ruins and suddenly no one can get into those buildings until the ruins are repaired or the EHB 'cades are broken down. While an interesting idea, I think it's a bit ludicrous that it could actually work. —Aichon— 18:03, 11 April 2013 (BST)

There are some unorthodox survivor tactics built around the ability to freerun out of ruined buildings, such as the Roftwood Barricade Plan which relies on permanently ruined dark buildings as entry points. Changing that mechanic would just take away that angle without adding a new one. Make the game more fun, not less. -- Spiderzed█ 18:16, 13 April 2013 (BST)

i know that,but i was just thinking that a shift in balance is required in favor of zeds rather than in favor of survivors,i mean almost all the suggestions or implementations have been made in favor of survivors,right. 1 of the basic reason's for ruining buildings is to obstruct free running,isn't it?so i feel this is a good suggestion--PayneTrain^(NWO/FU) 07:11, 14 April 2013 (BST)

I like this. It makes a lot of in-universe sense, and it would prevent populated suburbs from completely shrugging off or even benefiting from (in the case of overcading) small-scale zombie attacks, which is a huge peeve of mine. However, I think you may want to nerf this from the "no free running at all" to a 50% chance of fall out of the building/50% chance to free run normally, or something along these lines, to keep this from being too frustrating in heavily ruined burbs. --RadicalWhig 23:40, 15 April 2013 (BST)

Thankyou,i have taken a part of your suggestion and pimped it into mine...--PayneTrain^(NWO/FU) 19:18, 25 April 2013 (BST)

I'd say make it the same rate as injuring yourself falling from a ruined building (which is what, 20%? 25%? the Ruin page doesn't list it), and make it injure you in the same way. Then you've got yourself a deal. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 11:20, 4 May 2013 (BST)

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Suggestions up for voting

The following are suggestions that were developed here but have since gone to voting. The discussions that were taking place here have been moved to the pages linked below.

Door destruction

by PayneTrain^(NWO/FU) at 19:05, 25 April 2013 (BST)

Suggestion:20130502 Change in Graffiti Defilement Mechanics

by Lpha at 22:58, 2 May 2013 (BST)