Talk:Block Party

I certainly do have some thoughts. I figured we could set out a suburb, preferably a corner 'burb so we actually do have two walls to keep a play area... and play the game while keeping within the suburb area. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:30, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

I'd certainly be up for change. I do want an area with plenty of TRPs (and ideally 2 malls). Have you (or anyone else) any specific thoughts? And would a central location or a border or corner location be more appealing? Not sure if a local zombie population is necessary, but having one nearby eliminates half the advertising need. --_K 20:56, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Dulston seems to be a good candidate. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:21, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

If you're looking for two malls, Penny Heights comes to mind (Lumber Mall, Joachim Mall.) It borders the east of the city, too. -- ^{(stalk · KT · FoD · UU)} 00:08, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Dulston sucks and is so safe there's no point in survivors going there. Same for PH (except it doesn't suck). Do the middle of the map idea. Easier for people to get there in one day of travelling and it's more dangerous. A ZOMBIE ANT 01:12, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

I vote Roftwood then. A corner has its trade-offs although we have two no effort borders if we really want things to keep contained. Spreading out would defeat the purpose. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:42, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

What about dunnel hills? That could only end well. A ZOMBIE ANT 04:10, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

I'd personally vote for seeing a second Ridleybank. While I know that Ridleybank could NEVER be replicated for the amount of time it has had its infamy, I'd like to see a safe suburb be smashed and completely destroyed for a long time. I think I have been seeing this too much from a zed perspective (as that is where my bias for bringing an alt in lies at the moment,) hence my leaning towards 'burbs that are fairly safe/"in survivor hands". PH (from the latter half of last year anyway) wasn't exactly -too- safe, it could have been a yellow 'burb, with how often incursions happened, and how large they generally were (it's also close enough to the then- "ruinclad" Fryerbank, which might have helped that.) I levelled both PKer and zed alts in PH (but not at the same time) because of the relative balance - there are always survivors and zombies I can heal for the quick XP (before killing the survivors off when I had enough skills to my name.)
Among the other suggestions, I think I like Roftwood. My voice is insignificant, and I accept that, but I prefer to start out in a more balanced suburb, than in a place already skewed towards survivors or zombies. Then hopefully, I'd see it fall over to the zed side for a decent amount of time (even a month would make me happy, but hopefully longer.) -- ^{(stalk · KT · FoD · UU)} 09:54, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

I also tried to show this proposal to other people, and this was what someone had to say: "[D]on't forget though, it is going to have a flame back effect. Basically, the locals in the burb they end up choosing for their 'event" will not all be happy about it and as before, allot of the participants will be left behind in the burb after the event, possibly changing the burb permanently." As my above comment, I initially wasn't in favor of having it in a place that was already a ghost town (mind you, I'm not referring to a "reverse" ghost town,) but I can see why Dunell Hills makes a good candidate.
To further quote the person who does not participate in the Wiki that I discussed this with: "But yes, to clarify what I was trying to say above, I think the blockparty should rather bring life to a dead area instead of possibly messing with the dynamics in a "working" area, I fear some people might just quit if their way of life gets disrubted (sic) [...] I am one of those who would like the change of pace, but I kinda feel that in this, all participants need to be there by choice...."
This PoV might also have to be considered in choosing a 'burb; I realize that it's better to bring survivors and zeds to an empty, ruined 'burb, rather than to a place that is still fully operational (besides, PKing people in "safe" burbs is a little more fun than making them quit permanently over a change in conditions, imo.) -- ^{(stalk · KT · FoD · UU)} 10:21, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

At the risk of pissing someone off just by posting about Dunell Hills, May I point out that as of this moment there is only one ruined building (The Dury Building) and the truly active Zombie population (28) is almost equaled by the active Survivor population (21). --Conndraka^{TAZM CFT} 14:49, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Huh. Things have changed in just two months, it seems. -- ^{(stalk · KT · FoD · UU)} 03:35, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

All said on the subject of location, I still lean toward Roftwood. Dunell Hills lacks the needed malls. Penny Heights lacks the organized zombies nearby. Plus the better scatter options actually help. As for the current residents, I hope to not really change the day to day activity, just have it include larger numbers. Events tend to impose on someone and it'll be more likely to keep a contested suburb contested (assuming an representative number of participants from each side). --_K 01:59, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

You're right on Penny Heights' zeds mostly being ferals. While there was an organized zed group there, they moved on to another 'burb after a while. How do you feel about "free running lane" quality in the desired location? Would it be better to look for a place with "breaks" in the lanes like Peddlesden Village (Not that I endorse the 'burb as a whole; it's too quiet,) or a place with most locations being accessible to the free running network? I'm convinced of your view of not wanting to change the day-to-day activity on of whatever 'burb gets chosen, now.-- ^{(stalk · KT · FoD · UU)} 03:35, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

So, these are the options people are suggesting.

• Roftwood
• 14x14 area around Roftwood
• Peddlesden Village
• Dulston
• Dunell Hills
• Penny Heights

Which one(s) are we leaning to? Vote? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:39, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

I'd vote Roft or the enlarged Roft area. The extra squares are just to pick up some extra NTs and a second mall. My second would be Penny Heights (FU is close at least). As for Dunell Hills/Peddleston Village, I'd rather shift over to Chudleyton (also a ghost town) and pick up that mall. Dulston does have the infrastructure and it is a corner, but I've always associated it with boring. All that said, I'd like the event to be as community driven as possible so I'm game for wherever. --_K 02:11, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

It's Kirsty's creation, I'd suggest pitching your ideas and letting her decide. Don't take over it and ruin it with votes. A ZOMBIE ANT 03:24, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Dunnell Hills and Peddlesden are honestly kinda boring right now, and you'd have a hard time getting several of the survivor groups involved, since they just wrapped up missions in the DMZ. That's why the place is generally as intact as it is. We were honestly hoping we might be able to incite a third March of the Dead, since this sort of mission was how the last March got started, but we essentially got no pushback from The Dead at all. Rather disappointing, and considering several of the remaining major survivor groups just burnt ourselves out on the place, you'll find very little interest, I'd wager.

Likewise, Chudleyton is a ghost town because it's such a pushover. 2-3 survivors and a few days is generally all you need to retake the whole suburb, minus Caiger Mall. Why bother fighting over a suburb that you can reclaim at a whim? Even The Dead tend to not pay much attention to Chudleyton, despite ostensibly being in the DMZ.

Dulston's name says it all. It's dull. It might be more fun with more people there, but the place has never made a good impression on me.

Roftwood is generally fun, but you lose the boundaries. Even so, it may work out. And I can't speak for or against Penny Heights, since my only experience there in the last few years has been as part of the Big Bash, so I'll leave that to others. —Aichon— 16:10, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

My preference is the Roftwood area. It's not the end of the world if things bleed a little "out of bounds"; the idea is to confine things to a small area, right? So we don't need hard borders, just an incentive to stay around. Penny Heights could be interesting too, though. Could leave it up to Kirsty, as DDR suggests.^ --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:51, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Also, apologies for said voting would ruin it. I meant it may ruin it for Kirsty... You get the idea. A ZOMBIE ANT 11:36, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm happy with voting. Right now, it's looking like Roft is leading based on the few opinion expressed. Given anywhere is going to have some drawbacks, it seems to offer the most advantages and no more drawbacks than anywhere else. I will probably try to make some type decision by the 14th; so I can start advertising on the 15th. I'm leaning to starting on July 15, and I figure I need about 2 weeks to do any meaningful advertising. --_K 15:12, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

I'd suggest ultimately leaving it up to Kirsty, since it's their idea, but I'm liking that enlarged Roftwood area. Sure, having a hard border is convenient (i.e. almost every other mentioned burb, barring Chudleyton and Roftwood,) but I don't think it'll be completely necessary as long as the "playing field" is marked clearly/if there is enough motivation for participants to stay within bounds.

I kind of forgot to mention FU being close enough to PH, if it does get chosen.

I mentioned Peddlesden but it wasn't a serious suggestion -- it was more of me asking if there was a preference for the burb having a "natural break" in the free running lanes, or otherwise. I mean, Peddlesden always struck me as boring, even if that break had HUGE potential. -- ^{(stalk · KT · FoD · UU)} 01:17, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Well, this is interesting.

I'm all kinds of interested in this sort of thing, and at least another person from a group I'm in likes the idea -- the question is whether we'd be coming in as the survivor group, or as the zed group (though I'm slightly leaning towards the latter, myself. Not sure about everyone else in said group.)
I already like the particular 14 x 14 block you chose, but AHLG has a good point about a corner 'burb -- two of the "boundaries" would be much less ambiguous than your chosen grid, but I feel like your choice is slightly more interesting to play in.
I can probably assist with some advertisement efforts (among others;) I know a few returning players who have been looking for something to do. Who knows, it might be something to their interests! (P.S. You rock for this proposal!) -- ^{(stalk · KT · FoD · UU)} 08:27, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Sweet. I love a good, ambitious event. A ZOMBIE ANT 14:59, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

To-Do list:

Some groups I want to specifically invite:

Abandoned

DHPD

FoD

The Fortress

Knights Templar

MOB

PK

RRF

SoC

FU

ACC

CtD

short url: tiny.cc/UDParty2014

So, I have previously (for a very short period) actually gotten to play Urban Dead. Sure, Survivors in Wonderland is a fun game, unless you aren't a survivor who enjoys barricade maintenance or refueling generators or a zombie in a major horde, but I'd like to play Urban Dead and maybe someone else does too. So, the idea goes basically like this:

Invite everyone to send a single alt to a specific location: I like this (a 14x14 area), but only because of two malls and a known horde (the RRF) nearby. No goal, no specific purpose other than to actually get to play a zombie game. The event would run for 1 month.

What would be needed (I think) for it to work:

• Recruiting some large survivor groups to join to ensure speedy revives. Fast revives are a must to keep survivors enjoying themselves. Zombies will come.
• Convincing enough players to come to the area. Empty buildings for zombies or no zombies to shoot for survivors would certainly defeat the purpose.
• Convincing a large enough number of players to switch to the losing side, as needed, to ensure neither side wins. (or expand as needed to keep survivors alive)
• Advertising (wiki page, in-game, some forum possibly).
• Convincing some sucker(s) to share in the work.

Pre-event volunteer opportunities:

• In-game radio broadcast and graffiti (once everything is set)
• Wiki coding (I can do some basic stuff, but having someone who has more style would be nice)
• Forum advertising (I'm on maybe 2 forums that are still used, would be nice to hit: brainstock, rg, resens)
• Are you in a large survivor group? See what they think and post on the talk page.

During-event volunteer opportunities:

• Revives (ask Schwan about TBP)
• Suburb updating (check with the existing mass updaters)
• IRC lurking
• Border graffiti

Thoughts?

--_K 15:37, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Start grafitting, people! A ZOMBIE ANT 00:10, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

I'll let my own little corner of the world know. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:37, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

I'll get the word to the DHPD --Conndraka^{TAZM CFT} 04:32, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Likewise, I let the SoC higher-ups know to expect an invite, though I don't know what our response will be just yet. We're in the middle of something else at the moment, but I'd anticipate it wrapping up by the start date for Block Party. —Aichon— 14:31, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

The moment I saw this page, I already made a post to inform the rest of the Knights Templar about it. I've yet to cover the IRC/non-forum people, though, but I've also informed people who aren't part of the KT to join.
Since I do have an alt with the FoD, as well as a recently revived rotter itching for some action, I'm still deciding on what to do. I'm really leaning to bringing my zed in, but it depends on how many survivor groups will join (if there are too many of them, I'll push for the zed group to join, instead.) I'm also up for any assistance needed on the advertising front, even if the Block Party itself begins a day after I return to uni. -- ^{(stalk · KT · FoD · UU)} 04:52, 13 June 2014 (UTC)