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Some jackoff named uberlegen deleted the Autobots group page in Pashenton. There is no contact information either for uberlegen. This guy has been PKing the Autobots since he appeared in Pashenton, and now he's destroyed our wiki page. Please fix this. Optimus Primus (talk) 04:27, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

I don't know if I was allowed to do it,but I have undone what uberlagen has done.If he does this again, just go to your pages history and click on "undo" next to his revision summary...I expect this guy will be given a warning or banning for what he's done...--PayneTrain^(FU) 05:03, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Why may I ask is he resorting to such acts of idiocy?lol--PayneTrain^(FU) 05:09, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi guys. Thanks Payne for undoing the edit. I'm watching the user and have left a message explaining their blanking action isn't a good idea. If it happens again make sure to report the user to A/VB. Thanks. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 10:59, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

He didn't just blank those two pages. He also specifically erased the Autobots as a group offering revives at a particular location, removed mention of their radio frequency, and replaced the current news for a location that they had posted with the news that the suburb was now a zone for criminals. I left the last one alone, since other than being a minor NPOV violation and part of a larger pattern of activity, it isn't worth mentioning, but I rolled back the other two. Seems to me like he both knowingly posted false information to the wiki and vandalized group-owned pages in an attempt to malign his opposition.

Honestly, I was inclined to just file the A/VB case myself and slap an immediate warning on his page since this is an open-and-shut case of someone making their bad intent perfectly clear, but because you've already talked to him, I'll leave it up to Optimus to decide if he wants to pursue an A/VB case or leave things as they are. The damage has been undone and we can easily undo anything further, but this was not an innocent mistake on the part of a newbie, so I have no qualms in letting them know that such behavior will not be tolerated. —Aichon— 15:14, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Aichon. I missed the NT edit; the others I thought were good faith, particularly because the user is a new editor and we allow the community to generally maintain & update the radio list on suburb pages. If, post a nudge message, a new user continues to make bad faith edits, it's straight to A/VB with him. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 15:35, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the fixes, guys. If you think an A/VB case is warranted I would be more than happy to pursue that. Uberlegen and his alts (uberlegen1, etc) have been consistently PKing us for months now, and apparently has listed the Autobots on the Bounty Hunter lists, wherever those are, and now Pashenton is being flooded with them. This all started with the player BottleCap112, who had originally been an Autobot until he refused to abide by truces made with other legitimate groups. He was kicked out of the group and for a long time would PK the Autobots all by himself. Then suddenly uberlegen appeared sending us regards from BottleCap. We have the distinct conclusion that BottleCap is now zerging, but we can't verify it other than the fact several of the creation dates for these names are within hours of each other. Optimus Primus (talk) 02:17, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Certainly! An A/VB case officially gave him a warning; if he returns to the wiki and vandalizes again, we'll A/VB him again. The wiki A/VB and similar systems intentionally don't deal with in-game zerging, so there's not much to do about that (but if you visit NecroConnect I know they're starting to document ongoing zerg cases). Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 15:30, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

A/RE and crats

Crats have never undergone A/RE, as their election is regarded as enough proof that the community wants to keep them around some more. I only know that Ross underwent voluntary A/RE a few years ago while he was a crat. -- Spiderzed▋ 11:04, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Ehh, I think it's much more fair now that A/REs are less frequent to have everyone, including crats, undergo them. But whatever, I've removed Ross; consider mine voluntary. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 13:00, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

"Never" is not entirely correct, it's happened before. A ZOMBIE ANT 12:49, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

....As you said in the very next sentence, my apologies. I'm pretty sure SA did as well in this situation. A ZOMBIE ANT 12:50, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

We are very unlikely to see any op stripped by A/RE anytime soon anyway, unless they become inactive over a long stretch of time (like Mis currently does) or suddenly go rogue Grim_s style (which I consider way out of character for anyone on the current roster). -- Spiderzed▋ 18:44, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Wiki tables

Guess who's being crap at wiki-editting again? This guy!

Me and Stelar are working on a new EBD page, drafts can be found here (Stelar's), here (my WIKI code one) and here (my HTML code one. They all suffer from the same problem: no matter how we set the width of a cell, if you fill it with enough text, it will stretch out and ruin your entire lay-out. I've tried quite a few things, including clean builds, help pages and working HTML in stead of WIKI. Nothing seems to help.... Suggestions? PB&J 15:26, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Nvm, I think I got it. PB&J 15:46, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Glad you've got it. I normally just <br/> things, but that's a brute-force method where finesse would probably do better. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 15:31, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Old Danger Report

Just letting you know, but this danger report was two years old. Is a categorie or something missing on the page? I thought we updated all of Malton since then? PB&J 09:19, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

The prior update was to "unknown". Once a report is marked "unknown", it doesn't get updated again in sweeps — it would say the exact same thing ("Last updated November 2013"). Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 15:33, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Wait, I think I understand what you're saying — not that its "unknown" wasn't updated, but that nobody bothered to fill in the info. Club Colridge (alongside North Library) is actually pretty distant from the rest of Darvall Heights by free-running lanes, so if someone (e.g. me) decides to update "all" of Darvall with a survivor alt, they might leave those two buildings out. And Darvall actually hasn't been surveyed by any prior MDU assignments (it's as yet unclaimed in the ongoing Summer Suburb TLC assignment). Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 15:36, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

I've seen a few really old 'marked unknown' buildings (usually, "last updated in 2013") while I've been updating suburbs. I just figured they were just missed. stelar (talk) 21:03, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Template Calls

Looks like I set myself the challenge: how to make things not work in the least amount of lines possible: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Template:EBD/SafeHospitalCounter2

Any ideas why the second switch doesn't give me the same output as the first?

PB&J 10:28, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Tried fiddling for a minute, honestly no idea. Maybe User:Aichon can help? Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 11:14, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Well, the most obvious thing I saw was that the inputs aren't the same. The first switch is being given "1 1" (without the quotes), but the second switch is actually being given "1 1 " (again, without the quotes, but with the extra space), which you'll see if you toss quotation marks around the data on the last line of the page. I don't know that that would be sufficient to mess things up, but the space seems to be coming from the fact that the <noinclude> in the actual danger reports is on a separate line from the rest of the code that is actually being included. Erasing that line break causes the extra spaces to go away. At that point, you could make your inputs look like "11" instead, which should work as intended without any problems. —Aichon— 15:03, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

I’d say you’re running up against the limits of what the standard template system was designed to handle. Without Parser Functions available, there’s only so much can be done. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 11:40, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

It's alive! It's alliiiiiive! Thank you. We will now proceed with making horrible amounts of template calls for very little use :) PB&J 16:03, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Special:RecentchangesLinked/East Becktown

If I call {{Special:RecentchangesLinked/East Becktown}}, I get a list of recent changes related to East Beck. If call {{Special:Recentchanges/3}}, I get the last three edits on the entire wiki. How do I get the last three edits of a specific subject? :) PB&J 12:10, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

You mean within a category? e.g. {{Special:RecentChangesLinked/Category:Barrville_Danger_Levels}}? Or do you mean subject as in person, in which case you can just navigate to their contributions? Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 12:16, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure if it tracks the categories or searches for the words "East Becktown" in Special:RecentchangesLinked/East Becktown, but the problem I'm having is the number of outputs. With Special:Recentchanges/3, it's limited to the last 3 of the entire wiki, but I want the x number of most recent outputs for Special:RecentchangesLinked/East Becktown. PB&J 12:18, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

If you go to the RCL/East Becktown page, there's an area at the top to sort among them. Just click "Show Last (number)" of your choice. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 15:36, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Welcoming thingy & other questions

Hi bob thanks for the welcome, you said you had a character in grigg heights? If you still do maybe we could help each other out. Also do you know any active groups in grigg heights? Thanks in advance.

AndyFonty16 (talk) 16:19, 21 July 2016 (UTC)Thursday, July 21st,2016 P.s. I'm not sure how to do the squiggly line/timestamp so ya.

Replied on your talk page. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 19:01, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

I think that in the grigg heights area their main base was at the Edmund general hospital but it has fallen to a couple of zombies which I am currently attacking whenever I get enough energy but as far as I could see it looked like nobody was there. P.s. I will join anyways because you are probably right. Fonty16 (talk) 21:08, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

I am currently in wriford museum (my safehouse) with a couple other survivors. It is VSB and I put 2 impressionist statues in it. Do you have any suggestions as to whether I should stay there or move to somewhere else? Thanks in advance. Fonty16 (talk) 21:12, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for the trouble bob but I don't know how to join Edmund general hospital let alone any group, sorry I'm still new to this stuff but I have so far tried going onto necroconnect but got confused, went onto their ad and went to Evelyn Emerys profile but couldn't get to her talk page and I also added her to my contacts list in-game. Fonty16 (talk) 21:38, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Replies to the above on your talk page. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 00:34, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Necroconnect

I went in created an account and went to look at the EDU forum but couldn't get on, couldn't find a way after around half an hour of searching and it's probably because I have no idea how it works so if you could maybe give me some help with that or something else along the lines of that it would be greatly appreciated. Fonty16 (talk) 01:49, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks bob I really appreciate all your helping me getting started! Thanks so much! Fonty16 (talk) 16:24, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Certainly! Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 19:18, 22 July 2016 (UTC)