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EVIL IS HERE TO STAY

Yup, that's what The Profile Police said and the New Lockettside Valkyries, all surprisingly dormant. And if you're here to stay why do you move between suburbs or are you really going to stay around Lockettside for ever now? Not that you actually seem to stay in Lockettside mind you, doing as you do the typical tactic of running away to other suburbs. Show some balls, stick around inside the buildings you PK in see how the residents take to you. You never know you might make friends and influence people, unless you're the ones......

	Are you scared yet?
	Sometimes,... Fear is the appropriate response....

-The preceding post was made by Fausta Gummings

To be frank, we tire and bore easily. After terrorizing the suburb of Penny Heights for a while, without much of a fight from the locals,... we decided to move. Second of all,... we're here to cause mayhem. Basically, while your busy picking up in the wake of the current zed infestation, we'll swoop in and kick you all while your down. Third of all,.... don't mistake us for being afraid,.... after all,.... we're not the ones who forgot to sign our posts.

And for what it's worth.... I find people like to talk really big,..... rarly bringing anything to the table. I have yet to be informed of a single kill your group has wrought upon us. We've killed two of yours,... when your ready to step up,... let us know,... we'll hunker down a little bit and show you what we're really made of. -Poodle of doom 23:13, 16 October 2009 (BST)

Yup forgetfulness=fear on a wiki where everything is documented for anyone who takes the time to look. Actually it's good you're round the area, the Z's attacks have tailed off over the last couple of weeks and we were all geting bored, you've saved us a road trip/karaoke tour. You should really learn to communicate more with your underlings though or do they get kicked out of the group if they're not good enough? There's been about 7 dirt naps among your guys and gals from us (sorry we're not really keeping proper count but I can ask everyone too if you want) and I notice you're zombified at the mo though not by one of us, darn.signed by --Fausta Gummings 10:39, 17 October 2009 (BST) on behalf of a group that doesn't have a leader so its pretty pointless any one member signing a statement that's made on the behalf of many.

Jackhammer

Are you pissed enough yet?

Edit:-nearly forgot, you need to update your Lockettside KOS page, there's nobody on it.

They are another group of momma's boys who hide in other suburbs and talk tough on the wiki. The body count is rising Poodle. I have to laugh when a new group comes to town and beats their chests. You'll all be in the dirt soon and then you'll run away like every other weak milkbaby PKing group has done. I also giggle at your pride over Penny Heights. It was in fact being torn apart by a huge zed horde when you lot came in to play slaps and tickles. Hugs and kisses--Shaun Zedkiller 13:54, 17 October 2009 (BST)

We've managed to take out at least twelve different individuals in your group in the last 3 days. And that's just between the two people in my group who took time to report it. FYI.... -Poodle of doom 15:38, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Wow, 12 in 3 days by two characters. Wait, 6AP (give or take) each way to a safehouse, that's 12, leaving 38, now with a pistol "To Kill 60HP Enemy w/ Flak Jacket: 24 attacks" and with a shotgun "To Kill 60HP Enemy w/ Flak Jacket: 12 Attacks" that's one mind you not two, now i know your guys are using a mix (personal experience unfortunately thank god for syringes, but wait surely even you have to find and use those too?) and not allowing for reloading or visiting a P.D. or Mall for ammo rather than hiding in a dark bank or club, I'm impressed, you must carry nothing but guns and ammo and have great hit rates despite the zerging, whoops sorry, you don't do that. Also seems strange that we didn't have to revive that many, only 6 at your hands by our count unless your counting death by zombie zerger and Tompson Mall break in? Yay it's the sig!--Fausta Gummings 00:00, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

As previously stated... we were unaware at the time that the individual in question was doing any zerging. Second of all, I'm only going by what I've been shown, and told. -Poodle of Doom^M! 00:24, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

ZombiePalin

hi there, this is ZombiePalin. quite simply im on a mission to erradicate rotters relief. while not looking to join your group, i would like to work with them in the removal of rotters relief. ive been pking their clinic cheifs and interns for a few months now and while enjoyable by itself, they are many and im few. i looking for help in anyway that disturbs their operations be it pking, gking, barricading their clinics, or other griefing. please help with the cause and spread mayhem across malton. -The preceding post was made by ZombiePalin

We could aid the cause. What is it that you are looking to have us do? Or is there something we've been doing? -Poodle of Doom ^M! 17:04, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

just focus a little more on RR and do what you guys do best. ive found that attacking anyone of their staff that has the rot is more advantageous as it takes more resources to get them back on their feet. thanks for any and all help that you provide.-The preceding post was made by ZombiePalin

Sounds great. I will spread the word to my group. You have our full support in this matter. Do you have a group at all? We'd like to ally with you if possable. -Poodle of Doom ^M! 18:21, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

i am currently without a group. i fear joining up with a group may keep me from from my goals at this time. i will ally myself with you though. im also trying to gain the support of other like-minded groups as well and hopefully our numbers will grow. thanks again for your support. --The preceding post was made by ZombiePalin

Sounds good to me. Let me know how many other groups you get. Maybe I can set up some sort of Anti RRC Aliance. -Poodle of Doom^M! 22:54, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

At this time, I don't think we can honor this commitment. There have been a number of reasons why,... the main being a collition that is forming. -Poodle of Doom^M! 19:08, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Spelling Mistake

--Thadeous Oakley 19:45, 8 November 2009 (UTC) It has been bothering me for a few weeks. Eastwood should be Eastonwood. --Haliman - Talk 18:12, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Wow! Never knew anyone payed that close of attention to my group and what we were doing. Thanks for noticing. I will have it changed. -Poodle of Doom^M! 18:24, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

And don't even get me started on DARKERSTOWN! --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 18:27, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

SHIT!!! Anything else? -Poodle of Doom^M! 18:34, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I think thats it. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 18:43, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm glad someone was paying attention... Like I said,... I never knew anyone had been paying that much attention to my group. Thanks guys. -Poodle of Doom^M! 18:46, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Its certainly ambitious. JUst checking if any of my alts groups are on your list anywhere. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 18:55, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't imagine so as of yet. We only have targets in Penny Heights, Lockettside, Kempsterbank, and West Grayside. So unless your name is on one of those list, you're fine. -Poodle of Doom^M! 19:30, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Consider all the necessary changes made. Thank you for informing me of my errors. -Poodle of Doom^M! 22:12, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

What are "Greifers"?--Thadeous Oakley 19:45, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

People who set out to cause dismay for others. Why do you ask? -Poodle of Doom^M! 00:52, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

He's making fun of your spelling.-- SA 05:11, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Figured as much,... but still... figured I'd explain what I was looking for, and that he'd use the right spelling so I could correct it.... -Poodle of Doom^M! 22:39, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm gonna add to this. On your awards pages, the phrase "the user who's awards you wish to view" is incorrect. "Who's" is a contraction of "who is" - you should be using "whose awards". And yes, I'm a pedant with nothing better to do... 21:22, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

No offense to anyone involved with this, but you all are more than welcome to make corrections to spelling.... really. I don't mind. And it's a good faith edit. Thanks again everyone for pointing these out. I'll get to the "griefers" and "whose" corrections soon.... -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 04:18, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: Alliance

Regarding your suggestion of an alliance between EVIL and Betrayed, I see no reason why we would not all benefit. Stop by and let me know what you have in mind. Thanks --Mary Deluxe 04:23, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Sounds great! -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 03:50, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Excellent! --Mary Deluxe 16:11, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

This is lvl80retpaladin (forum name) of Betrayed, we have read your post in our forums and are discussing terms of alliance. We'll get back to you hopefully within a few days. Happy hunting! --Stained Pants 21:38, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good to me,... hope to hear from you soon.... -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 05:39, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Mary is going to be busy for quite a while. But we've decided that it'd be nice if your group could access our revive points and vice versa as a starter. Thoughts? --Stained Pants 20:56, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

We don't necessarily host revive points, but we could make it a point to be on the look out for your members and in vice versa if we're in the same area... communications would be key in this. Perhaps we should start there? I'd be willing to allow a represenitive from your group to access more of our forums if you are. We could talk in a more private setting.... -Poodle of Doom^{M! T}

GSGM 2010

	Group Confirmed.
	This group was confirmed active. Thank you for your reply.

Don't mean to be a bother, but it is for all group regardless of size. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 18:44, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Not a problem,... we underestand. In fact,... we've been waiting patiently for you to show up. We are active! -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 16:47, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Ah. Well then my sincere apologies for being late! XD --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 08:29, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

No problem,.... just don't want to be missed. -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 04:38, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

KT on you KOS list?

Why are we on your list?-Roddy Winters 03:57, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

First off, congrats on noticing. Second, read the instructions on the page... any questions on the subject should of been taken to the talk page of the suburb listed your on. Third of all, it's already been explained to certain members of your group. Fourth, we've had issues with your group before. I'd rather not get into particulars on the wiki.... I'd rather leave as little drama behind as possable today. Perhaps tomorrow will be another story. -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 04:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Your Alliance Request

I posted this on the Order's talk page, but your proposal is eagerly accepted. Contact us if you are ever near New Arkham. The Order will be of as much help as we can manage. Wil Truman 23:46, 5 April 2010 (BST)

We'd be more than happy to do so! Would you like to have an account on our forums? -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 00:57, 6 April 2010 (BST)

No I would not, I highly dislike forums and avoid them at all costs. I also don't like giving out my email. But please feel free to contact me on my talk page. Wil Truman 03:04, 6 April 2010 (BST)

Well... that's all understandable... We'd be happy to get in contact with you via the groups talk page, or yours. Just FYI, if your group ever needs a home, or a forum to use,... we'd be happy to lend you ours for a time. -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 22:31, 6 April 2010 (BST)

Streltsy

Stop by the forums and I will set you up with some access Poodle, I will set up an account over there and perhaps we can work together very soon, we will be in the general area pretty soon. -- 

•   Timmah!  

•   Talk  

00:08, 12 April 2010 (BST)

Sounds great... I'll do what I can to get registered soon... -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 05:50, 12 April 2010 (BST)

So I made an account on your forum... no clue how to get it to post a topic though, apparently I don't have permission to :( . -- 

•   Timmah!  

•   Talk  

06:09, 23 April 2010 (BST)

Actually, I'll have to approve the account manually for you. Sorry I haven't realized,... and I haven't checked. I planned on coming to you guys eventually. I've been busy and haven't gotten around to it yet. Anywho, I'll approve the account as soon as I'm done typing here. Just FYI, the only difference you'll note on the forums will be the appearence of a board entitled "Private Forum - Allies",... this is a private forum, where you're welcome to contact me, and my group, directly. Obviously, no one in the public will see what you type there. If you ever need anything, that's the best way to get in contact with us. Thanks! -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 04:40, 24 April 2010 (BST)

Random PK?

OK, so I recently asked you, Poodle, if EVIL was good, as I read on the wiki. I found out, and died as soon as I did. The hipocrisy of the group does not make me believe it to be reliable or safe for other members of my group. Proof of PK is in the link. Ask if you need his UD page. SykoKiller666 21:10, 18 April 2010 (BST) http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/XxSykoKiller666xX/pkedsilaf-1.png

Uh,... yeah,.... I wasn't clear in my sarcasm when I explained your request to my group... apparently. I told them to go make friends, and that was sarcasm for "Go kill him." Now if you don't mind me saying,.... you're an idiot! In the section labeled EVIL on the front page, it says we're PKers. One of the categories for the group is "PKer Groups", and we're rather notorious here on the wiki... and you somehow couldn't figure out that we were going to kill you? Your loss buck weed. -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 21:25, 18 April 2010 (BST)

Oh, hey

So, we heard you were in town as of a few weeks ago, but aside from some graffiti in Darvall, most of which we cleaned up awhile back, nothing seems to have changed (at least in Darvall). Until I bumped into you, yourself, in-game a few days ago (or, more accurately, my axe bumped into you), I hadn't actually seen a single EVIL member. You guys are around, right? We keep telling our members to look out for you guys, and we have a thread on our forum dedicated to relaying sightings of you guys, but it only has, like, four posts. It's pretty sad. We've talked more about the presence of a few PKers we've seen in the area this week than we have about EVIL.

We've been holding off on doing missions in other suburbs in the hopes you guys would give us some action in our home suburb, since the last decent attack it had was when the RRF swept through last winter, but so far we haven't had to deal with any lengthy revive queues (hell, we're not even warning the locals to stop reviving you guys, since revives are so plentiful at the moment) or extra ruined buildings beyond what ferals might do on their own. We've been back home in Darvall for a few months now, have had virtually nothing to do in that time, and were actually really looking forward to having you guys work against us. Can you rise to the challenge? If not, we're already talking about moving our main group out again soon (we always have a dozen or so of our members that want to stay behind and guard Darvall), though I'm sure we'd come back to our home suburb in a few months when the MOB arrives or the RRF swings back through again. —Aichon— 22:17, 2 May 2010 (BST)

We're not there necessarily,... We've learned a few tricks for staying out of sight.... *Jedi mind trick*,.... but yeah,... we've been taking the time to scope out the situation too. We've got a board dedicated to you guys, with about 10 posts in it. So far, we've managed to identify approximatly 20 of your members,.... good luck! -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 15:24, 3 May 2010 (BST)

Hey, just saw your recent news update for EVIL, and wanted to address a few points and factual errors I noticed. You mentioned that you had no casualties, but, ironically enough, we actually killed you, yourself, within the last week, and I think I've seen a few SoC members mention killing other EVIL folks, though I can't say so with certainty. Also, you seem to imply that kill ratios determine who wins and who loses the battle, but that's a poor way to gauge who is "winning" in a city where death doesn't matter since it can be undone in a matter of minutes. You should instead measure who is "winning" based on how effective each side is at disrupting the other side. We want to keep Darvall intact, while (from what I understand) you want to cause it harm. So, how many buildings have you ruined in Darvall, and of them, how long did you keep them ruined? How long are the revive queues? When those numbers start to grow a bit, we can both agree you guys are disrupting us. Until then though, we deal with ferals killing our members on a daily basis, and losing a couple every day out of a few dozen is the norm.

You mentioned that we threatened to kill you at revive points, but that, to me, sounds like the height of futility. At least officially (i.e. via one of our officers, such as myself), we've certainly never threatened to do it to you, since that would be utter nonsense and a complete waste of AP.

Regarding anti-EVIL messages around Darvall, you won't see any from us for two reasons. One, we don't believe in disparaging our enemies, unless our enemies are zergers or are disrespectful to us first. You guys are players too, and are actually quite nice folks (and fun to have around), so even though we're opposing each other, we still want to respect you. We believe in a bond created through battle, and the mutual respect that enemies can build for one another. Second, we find it more valuable to advertise ourselves rather than bring more attention to our enemies. We've already had a few more recruits this week alone. :P

Anyway, I'm sure you guys have killed some of our members, but killing a couple out of a few dozen doesn't prevent us from our day-to-day operations in the least, and we've had all of those people back up within minutes or hours of dying. Like I said, we'll probably have the bulk of our group move out sometime soon, and leave behind a skeleton crew, which will make things more interesting for everyone, since it's kinda not fair at the moment. I mean, we have 37 people active in the game as of today (says the stats page), and probably 30-35 of them are in Darvall or a neighboring suburb right now. EVIL can only do so much, and we know that, so while we're on top, we don't want to be sore winners, since we know that we won't always be on top. We appreciate the sport of having a good challenge and being the underdog, so, in a way, we're honestly rooting for you guys to give us a good fight. Have fun! :) —Aichon— 00:48, 6 May 2010 (BST)

Hey, please take everything I say on the front page in stride... Really, everything that's said there is for show. It means nothing... just simple RP.

That said... I acknowledged we've been killed. I was trying to allude to the fact that it hasn't happened for a while, and we didn't know why. Guess we do now. And everyone sees through the BS of not spray painting anti-EVIL propaganda,... Now I can't say who threatened the killing of our team members at the revive point, because I honestly don't remember, but I do know I was one of a couple members who were given this message directly. Not that I care,... I consider it a fair tactic in this sport.

Please note that you are partially correct in assuming that we're here to do harm to Darvall Heights, but that shouldn't be used to measure the winning of this little charade,... our attention moved from Darvall Heights, and Chudleyton, some time ago, and shifted towards you guys. Winning should be gaged by what we do to you.

And please don't hold back. I understand that you want to be fair,... but we like it rough. Really, we do! Let us feel the rath of the SoC.... we really need to be put in our place,... it's been a long time! But really,.... if you guys go elsewhere, that's no big deal. One of my members mentioned something about you guys moving part of the group off someplace else... Either way,... here's to having fun. -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 01:29, 6 May 2010 (BST)

Okay, okay, so we don't do anti-EVIL messages mostly for the second reason I gave :P, but still, there's a group of us in the SoC that have alts in other, non-survivor, groups (I'm in MOB and Philosophe Knights, for example), so we honestly do value the fact that there's another person behind the character. That's even how I've met a few of my in-game friends...they've killed me or my comrades, I tracked them down in the meta-game, and we started talking and shooting the breeze. Most of the time, they're pretty cool folks, though that doesn't stop us from shooting each other when we see each other.

And fair enough point about changing your objectives. I guess this creates a situation where we can both win then, since it's possible for us to continue in keeping Darvall intact, while it's possible for you guys to score kills on us that reflect well on you. I'll see what I can do about encouraging our guys to kill some of you, that way you know we know you're around, but I can't guarantee anything, since we all know that death cultists can be slippery when they don't want to be found, whereas we operate completely in the open while we're at home (we do hide a bit more when we're on assignment elsewhere). ;) —Aichon— 03:34, 6 May 2010 (BST)

Hey, I love the fact that you guys are so interested in the confrontation... Why don't you guys make youselves at home on the general chat section of our forums... we'd love to have you! -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 04:01, 6 May 2010 (BST)

I'll pass word along to our ambassador in residence. He's usually the one that pokes around the forums of others. :P I'm just the #2 that's in charge while the leader is out and likes to chit-chat with the enemy. —Aichon— 04:39, 6 May 2010 (BST)

I see... we got some funny stuff to take up with you guys if both groups get board... -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 05:01, 6 May 2010 (BST)

Well, I don't know what all Frank and you have been discussing since the conversation was made private (I heard about a good chunk of it, however), but our group bonding time is probably coming to a close here. MOB took an unexpected turn and is making a beeline for Darvall Heights, it looks like, so we're gonna have to mobilize. I'm sure you'll find some of us that stick around, but the bulk of us will probably be out for a few days, since we have no plans to stick around for MOB to eat us all. —Aichon— 00:41, 19 May 2010 (BST)

Hey,... no problem... we're going to try to damper Escape, and boost our IWitness rap sheets a little. Thanks for letting us know the MOB is coming! -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 22:53, 19 May 2010 (BST)

Gang War

It's Jimmy from The Thugs of Malton. We recently relocated our group and inadvertently started (what promises to be) a shitstorm of a gang war with a local survivor group. I'm letting all our allies know so they can join in if they want. Should be a good time. I just registered for your forum, or you can email me at thugsofmalton.urbandead@gmail.com if you're interested in throwing down with us and trashing some survivors. --Crazy Jimbo 19:57, 15 June 2010 (BST)