UDWiki talk:Administration/Arbitration/Jorm and the MOB vs Zeug and Extinction
And so it begins...--Drawde Talk To Me! DORIS Red Rum Defend Ridleybonk! I know Nothing! 15:37, 24 September 2008 (BST)
- Ha, yeh, should be fun. I was going to go to the vandal reports first then on to arbi but they took it one step further and took it to deletions ... which is just a beautiful display of barhah.com meatpuppets ... and open for 14 days! And now it's just me and jorm, I can't tell you how much wiki fun this is for me. He usually runs screaming but now it's one on one in the ring of death. Awes.--Zeug 08:47, 25 September 2008 (BST)
If one looks through all the relevant records, one will find that the person who engages consistently and vociferously in -- to use different terminology than zeug -- petty name-calling and wiki-bullying in this matter (and in general) is zeug himself. No, he's not the only one engaging in flaming and insults -- I have done it myself, of course, so have others -- but he's led the pack by miles.... consistently.... He exactly fits the bill of the type of wiki-personality whom he claims to be "opposing and resisting" perfectly. Like, for instance, not treating the UZM page as the community page which it is -- and consistently demanding that people play by his own rules in editing this community page. Many people -- a large chunk of the zombie metagaiming community, in fact -- did not want to be associated with his technologically adept form of impersonation -- and when they tried to remove themsevles, Zeug unilaterally went against these wishes of the community and reverted -- again and again and again -- their edits... All that zeug EVER demonstrates is a self-obsessive arrogance and unwillingness to "play nice with others"... and an almost pathological desire to "push people's buttons"...
What a load of hypocritical, sophistic bullshit... --WanYao 16:30, 25 September 2008 (BST)
Furthermore, if Zeug continues to me name me by name in this case, as he's done several times -- and I'd say this potentially applies to Iscariot, as well -- then perhaps I ought to be officially included in this Arbitration case. See also Jorm's statement that others can join in... Given the facts that I was part of the edit war, and that in said edit war I was acting as a wiki-community member, not a MOB member... This is up to Cheese and Jorm, however... and all said and done I don't want to be part of this shit... but..... --WanYao 16:40, 25 September 2008 (BST)
- Jorm's comment applied to groups, not individuals. But that doesn't change the fact that zeug is naming me repeatedly in this case. Which use of largely ad homimen attacks, in a context in which I am not officially permitted to defend against or to rebut his attacks or "arguments"... well... I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here, leave it at that... And, no, I don't want to be officially a part of this case... But I hope these facts will be duely noted by the Arbitrator... --WanYao 16:58, 25 September 2008 (BST)
- I am not part of this case. This is Jorm's case and have no want to get involved. However, as with previous cases I am concerned by the fact that things are being said about me for which I have no right to reply. I did mention this to Cheese on his talk page and expected him to make the appropriate comment in his section when he posted it. He has not done so. If I were to begin a case, which I may be forced to do going on what has been said, it would be against Cheese as the controlling user of this process. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 17:24, 25 September 2008 (BST)
- Exactly... This isn't our case, and I don't want to be involved, either... But my name, and yours, are being dragged into it... repeatedly... and libellously. Among other things, as part of a wonderfully duplicitous tactic of trying to implicate some sort of "hive-mind meatpuppetry", when in reality the only thing taking place is an intersection of opinion among free and independent agents. --WanYao 17:33, 25 September 2008 (BST)
- I am not part of this case. This is Jorm's case and have no want to get involved. However, as with previous cases I am concerned by the fact that things are being said about me for which I have no right to reply. I did mention this to Cheese on his talk page and expected him to make the appropriate comment in his section when he posted it. He has not done so. If I were to begin a case, which I may be forced to do going on what has been said, it would be against Cheese as the controlling user of this process. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 17:24, 25 September 2008 (BST)