Talk:October Bash/Red October

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Rules

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1. No zerging.
2. No leaving the playing field once the event starts.
3. Only kills between 10-25-2010 and 11-7-2010 within the playing field will count.
4. Kill Reports must be submitted before 11-7-2010 to count towards points.
5. Please post links to kill report screenshots, do not post the images themselves.
6. Only Kills as a survivor will count.
7. Team with the most points at the end of the event wins.
8. Teams will need to be mostly balanced before the event begins. Please keep this in mind when picking a team.
9. Losing team must subject themselves to the firing squad, even if they are dead.

Date

Red October will run from October 15th to November 7th.

Playing Field

Out of Play	Out of Play	Out of Play	Out of Play
Out of Play	Kempsterbank	Wray Heights	Out of Play
Out of Play	West Grayside	East Grayside	Out of Play
Out of Play	Out of Play	Out of Play	Out of Play

Red Army Sign-up

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• Alex Koponen --User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 15:57, 2 September 2010 (BST)
• мизантропия 00:41, 14 September 2010 (BST)

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White Army Sign-up

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• Osric Stormwall, fighting for Monarchists everywhere! --Osric Stormwall 22:28, 12 September 2010 (BST)

The whites weren't monarchists, they were led by Kerensky and Denikin, the former of whom wanted conciliatory government without a monarch, and the latter of whom wanted a military dictatorship. I advise you to surrender now, just like Kerensky did.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 22:34, 12 September 2010 (BST)

Ah, but many of the soldiers fighting for the White Army wished to see the return of the Monarchy. Others wanted to continue the war against the Central Powers or they opposed the government's atheist views. So Osric's view of monarchy fits in nicely with the history of the war.~ 23:46, 12 September 2010 (BST)

Indeed it does. In fact the Whites were supported by three Monarchist Nations, Britain, France and Germany. Although Germany had become Weimar by then. And being a Monarchist, i quite like the idea of a White Army in Malton. --Osric Stormwall 00:37, 14 September 2010 (BST)

• Obese Twins reporting for duty. Fuck the Red Army! --  ▧  ^{: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :} 18:05, 18 September 2010 (BST)
• 2nd guy you eat the Dude abides, especially when it comes to killing Yonnua. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 18:12, 18 September 2010 (BST)
• I am Sinistar.
  
  01:33, 19 September 2010 (BST)

  Darn it Sinistar, you just idled. I have an alt right on top of you. And you expect me to move him now? --VVV ^RPMBG 01:33, 19 September 2010 (BST)

  Run, run, run!

  

  01:33, 19 September 2010 (BST)

  Fine. He'll move, but not too quickly. It's not like you could find much supplies in the undead wasteland you're in anyway. --VVV ^RPMBG 01:33, 19 September 2010 (BST)

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Reeve Sign-up

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• v4por will be a reeve. - ~ 15:20, 2 September 2010 (BST)
• Mark Gasnier - a tentative enlistment. chances are by october ~EVIL~ will be good to help out as a group with the revives if we have nothing better to do and are still playing. -- LEMON #1 15:06, 19 September 2010 (BST)

  Actually, bone that, I got an autocratic nazi alt hanging around who might have a thing or two to say about this newfangled red army... -- LEMON #1 15:08, 19 September 2010 (BST)

Well we could def use some more reeves. Hope to see EVIL lending a helping hand. --~ 16:23, 19 September 2010 (BST)

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General Discussion

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Registration

If nobody else enters, I'm claiming absolute communist victory and setting up a Malton Soviet to control the city.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 21:03, 4 September 2010 (BST)

You know, you could be on to something. Have to be a zombie regime, though. The Zommunist Party. Seriously, though there's still 6 weeks to go and I've been spreading the word in-game a lot so I'd be really really surprised if more people didn't sign up. ~ 03:29, 5 September 2010 (BST)

I want in! Especially as it kicks off at The Mester Arms --  ▧  ^{: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :} 18:40, 5 September 2010 (BST)

Well of course you're most welcome. If you could get some more AH folks involved too that would be great. ~ 18:52, 5 September 2010 (BST)

There are only four of us, but yeah, will suggest. --  ▧  ^{: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :} 19:41, 5 September 2010 (BST)

I think the Obese Twins will attend. How to know which coloured army to join? --  ▧  ^{: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :} 17:24, 18 September 2010 (BST)

The twins will be most welcomed. I'd like it if the teams were mostly balanced. I know a lot of people will likely want to join the soviets. Keep in mind the Red Army was not all that popular at the time (they later gained popularity when Trotsky became General). Might help those on the fence about who to join. ~ 17:39, 18 September 2010 (BST)

Bullshit. The Red Army had in excess of 5 million soldiers, and the whites had less than a million.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 15:26, 20 September 2010 (BST)

Not sure where you got those numbers. It was much more evenly matched. 3M Reds and 2.4M Whites at the height of the war. Whites also had Allied Intervention which made the gap only about 500,000 soldiers in favor of the Reds. My point was, at the beginning of the war, during the October Revolution (the era on which this hunt is centered) the Reds were pretty unpopular outside of St. Petersburg. --~ 15:58, 20 September 2010 (BST)

I got it from the fact that I've done in-depth historical studies on it. The war allies of the tsar never entered combat during the civil war. The largest single force the whites held was roughly 40,000 Czech legion soldiers led by Kolchak and the directory government. Apart from that, there were Denikin and Kerensky. Kerensky had 600 Kossacks who surrendered before any real combat, and Denikin lasted until 1920 when he was defeated. The Polish had a larger army, but weren't in any way affiliated with the Whites. Later, there was an uprising by the greens (once again not the whites) who had a largish force but were just peasants. all though this, the Red Army was the largest force, which peaked in 1920 at 5 million. They managed this through conscription, and then sent in Cheka agents to kill any deserting soldiers. Protip: Don't use Wikipedia.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 16:06, 20 September 2010 (BST)

Source: Peter Oxley, Oxford University - "[The Red Army] did not exist in 1918, but in 1920 it was 5 million strong." and later, "The largest combined total of White forces facing the Reds at any one time was no more than 500,000, and they were divided between different armies."--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 16:15, 20 September 2010 (BST)

Alright, I'll give you that the written history (not all Wikipedia) that I read was likely skewed. The sources you cited above does state that the Reds did not reach those numbers until 1920, though. What did you learn of the October Revolution during your studies? Did it not state that the Soviets were unpopular at that time? Was this information I've read skewed as well? (not trying to start a flame war. Promise. I find this subject very interesting)--~ 16:41, 20 September 2010 (BST)

Nah, it's ok, it's a darn interesting subject. The Bolsheviks (the ones who took power) were unpopular until 1917, when they became by far the most powerful force in the country. In terms of whites v Reds, there were very few people in the country supporting the old government. Most people wanted reform, but didn't know where they wanted it. Realistically, though, by mid-October 1917 (just before the revolution), the Bolsheviks were the dominant force in the Petrograd Soviet. Not even the nobility were truly loyal to the tsar and the Provisional Government, but they'd have supported more Menshevik or SR policies.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 16:50, 20 September 2010 (BST)

DEATH TO RED ARMY! --  ▧  ^{: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :} 14:29, 19 September 2010 (BST)

RED ARMY = --  ▧  ^{: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :} 15:37, 20 September 2010 (BST)

Pff, I'd expect nothing less from the owner of a bourgeois business which produces a product designed to mentally oppress those who partake in it. Not only are you furthering the disgusting notion of a global free market economy, but you push to oppress any who take part in it and force them to become constant consumers.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 15:39, 20 September 2010 (BST)

Gonna be consuming while you Red d-bags face our firing squad! x --  ▧  ^{: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :} 15:41, 20 September 2010 (BST)

yeah right, we have Mis. He'll take you down on his own.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 15:54, 20 September 2010 (BST)

Beware, coward!

02:31, 21 September 2010 (BST)

Important joke

What's black and blue, and red all over?

The Cheka!

--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 15:55, 20 September 2010 (BST)

Well there was a Black and Green Armies. An if you're RPing during this, the pending Zombie Attacks could be viewed as such. If you'd like me to smack you with a newspaper, that could be arranged as well. --~ 16:03, 20 September 2010 (BST)

You clearly do not understand the joke. :( --Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 16:07, 20 September 2010 (BST)

Yeah I got it after I re-read it. Didn't see the punchline when I responded. --~ 16:42, 20 September 2010 (BST)

Ah. Count this as my ba-da-pish.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 16:47, 20 September 2010 (BST)