UDWiki talk:Administration/Arbitration/Umbrella Biohazard Containment Service vs Umbrella Corporation

UBCS vs Umbrella

Right, UBCS requested this arbitration, accordingly the community assumes that they will participate and represent themselves. One question only is currently relevant, will Umbrella participate in this arbitration and represent themselves? This question requires a yes or no answer from Umbrella regarding their participation according to the statues set out in the arbitration precedents. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 02:09, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok I am confused. Didn't the UBCS and Umbrella Corporation agree to disagree by having their own pages for this war, because I am pretty sure that's what I was trying to put across. No I am not thinking Arbi's, things are fine the way they are now and should be left at that.President Jackson 02:52, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

You aren't following, your 'agreement' with UBCS means precisely dick now. UBCS brought this case, it implies that they are unhappy with how the current arrangement is progressing. Therefore, as it has been brought, this is now an arbitration case, if you choose not to represent yourself, a representative will be chosen for you and the arbitration will progress and you will be bound by that result. I personally couldn't give a shit about whatever agreement the pair of you have, you are both filling up my admin pages with your drama and if I can I'll end it here and now. Therefore, under the Arbitrations Guidelines that I have explained to you, the precedent you can read from past cases and the guidelines linked from this page; Will Umbrella represent themselves in this case aginst UBCS? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 03:04, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

YOUR ADMIN PAGES ? Who died and put you in charge ? --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 03:11, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

They are mine as I'm a member of this community, they are my administration pages in place to allow maintenance and smooth progression of the community as much as they are any other community member's. Surely you are not suggesting that admin pages = power? For surely that would be the incorrect tack to take by a supposed trusted user who is supposed to know and serve the wishes of this community as expressed by their hard voted policy. No-one died and put me in charge, I wouldn't want to be 'in charge' as I understand that it is the wishes of the community that would be prevalent. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 03:17, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

So ifr the community said STFU, Iscariot, you would? oh please... Conndraka^{mod TAZM CFT} 03:23, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Define community, give me a number. Because I will if you'll demote yourself if I can get the same number. Want to see who the community really supports? Without your DHPD zergs of course.... -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 03:32, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Leave it to Iscariot to start a fight with a sysop in a page that has nothing to do with anything.--SirArgo ^Talk 03:37, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Me? You'll notice I point out to the users involved in this case the precedents regarding arbitration. It is a sysop that begins this confrontation, with no prior involvement in attempting to reduce the conflict in the community two sysops intentionally engage my comments to escalate the situation without providing aid to the case in hand. Who's acting in bad faith again? Given that, what's your interest here? Have you volunteered as arbitrator? Have you researched this conflict? Have you given your opinion on it to the participants? Have you tried to assist them by explaining the page statutes? No, you haven't. You are the person who I first encountered trying to unsuccessfully create drama for me regarding my signature. Your bias is clear, kindly clear these pages so that the users that this page is here for can resolve their conflict. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 03:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I HAVE offered to be arbitrator and I DID research this conflict. I have read over the original case quite a few times. In fact, I urged in the creation of this arbitration case to avoid an edit war! See here. Maybe if you had done YOUR research properly you would have seen that.

And as for your signature once again I WOULD HAVE DONE THAT FOR ANYONE WHO WAS USING A BLINKING SIGNATURE> Until yours, I have never seen someone who had one! And as YOU admitted, it is just to piss people off.--SirArgo ^Talk 03:52, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

	Oh Snap!
	Someone just got served!

--People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 03:58, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Anyone mind if I move the above to the talk page? It's irrelevant to the arbitration. Linkthewindow  Talk  04:02, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Be my guest.--SirArgo ^Talk 04:03, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me, I invite you to show me the exact edit where I state my signature is there "just to piss people off". This you have clearly claimed in an attempt to libel me and besmirch my image in this community. SHOW ME THE EDIT WHERE I SAY MY SIGNATURE IS THERE SOLELY TO "PISS PEOPLE OFF". You cannot, your attempt to distort the truth is obvious for all to see. The purpose of my signature is to advertise the Mall Tour 2009 in the most effective way possible. There is no deep dark motive regardless of your baseless belief. You are attempting to libel not only myself, but also the group I advertise. In this you will fail, the community sees clearly. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 04:05, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Also I contest this being moved to the talk page as I can demonstrate through arbitration by a third party how this is relevant to the case in hand. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 04:05, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

How come you dicking around in the case is relevant to the case ? LOL. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 04:08, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Its interesting that you throw around the term DHPD Zerg when the only issue of the DHPD ever zerging was about 7 mos before you supposedly started playing Urbandead. Now some things are starting to click with some past issues, And I'm beginning to think that there is something that we've been missing. A Hatred of the sysop team... Attacks of incompetence against the oldest members of the team... Sir... I beleive you may be a banned user. makes sense now to prove it. But not here. Conndraka^{mod TAZM CFT} 04:06, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

It's odd how you avoid the point, with any new accounts (from this timestamp voting) and any DHPD members are you willing to take a community support vote with your demotion at stake? Yes or no? It's a very simple question Conndraka. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 04:27, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh shit Iscariot What the fuck is this?. At the bottom you state "...poor form, but nothing illegal or anything they can do about it" in regards to having a blinking signature. You basically said "it's not encouraged because it's annoying, but fuck them because it's not illegal!". And BTW, I am NOT bringing Mall Tour '09 down with you. I support THEM fully! So please, stop making these false accusation against me.--SirArgo ^Talk 04:11, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

So, in your head the words "poor form, but nothing illegal" equal "just to piss people off"? You may need to revisit any qualifications you have in the English language if that's the case, because that is not the meaning of those words and any attempt to ascribe meaning retroactively is nothing but biased and flawed interpretation on your part. For your information, everything I do on this wiki for the promotion, safety and benefit of the Mall Tour 2009 is fully sanctioned by The Mall Tourist Board (on which I sit) and I am empowered to represent them however I see fit without the need for consultation. When it comes to the Mall Tour on this wiki, I am The Word. Any attempt to cast my acts in pursuit of the goals of the Mall Tour is libellous against me, without the proof that you seem to be lacking, and against the Tour itself by extension of my role. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 04:27, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

How about you reread the whole statement again? It went "...poor form, but nothing illegal or anything they can do about it". I think the "nothing they can do about it" part seems to indicate that you a) understand that it may be annoying to them, them being sysops or regular users and b) but they they won't be able to do anything about it because it doesn't break any rules. Right there, you show that you understand that people will most likely be annoyed by it at some point but YOU DON'T CARE.

And as for your piss poor attempts at making me look like an enemy of The Mall Tour, I don't care what that blinking text says, I would still have asked if it was allowed or not.--SirArgo ^Talk 04:34, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

"you are both filling up my admin pages with your drama and if I can I'll end it here and now."-Iscariot. I just wanted to comment and point out that Iscariot is to be sited as wiki giant douche under wiki ruling: giant douche v. turd sandwich. It shall be that, one day there will be voting for Iscariot to STFU for his own good as he continues to demonstrate he has no life and views the chair in front of his computer as his own throne to the wiki world. "I must flex my wiki muscle and tell everyone off for I have no real muscles. I am soo e-gansta"-Iscariot.--President Jackson 12:31, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Is it just me or is most of this "drama" inside Iscariot's head? =/ Seriously, its one thing after another. My little sister is nowhere near this high maintenance and she strops over something as stupid as what colour t-shirt to wear. -- Cheese 23:34, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. I'm getting confused by all the umbrellas here. Is it me or do both parties want to remove "the slander pages" about each other. BEcause they could just do that. Surely? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 11:55, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

If I'm reading correctly, only the Umbrella Corporation (Mistergame, Jackson,) want both pages nuked, while the UBCS just wants a general ceaseation of hostilities. Although I'm probably wrong and will be corrected :/. Linkthewindow  Talk  13:05, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

What The Fuck...with this page?--Thadeous Oakley 13:00, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Meh. The Wiki can have drama over the smallest things :/. Linkthewindow  Talk  13:05, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

The Peanut Gallery

This is so pathetic. Your in-game feud is irrelevant to this wiki, except when it spills into edit wars, etc. We don't give a fuck about you crack-heads.

The only relevant issues are the slander pages and, perhaps, "ownership" of the name "Umbrella". The slander pages etc. have been dealt with administratively. And the "Umbrella" name actually belongs to the software developers who made Resident Evil, so maybe you should both abandon it! That's solve everything, unrealistic an idea as it is...

Or else, you morons could get some ritalin and shut the fuck up already. --WanYao 17:22, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

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Just so you know, no one is forcing you to read this WanYao. Since these proceedings have absolutely nothing to do with you except for maybe you in-game characters being affected I suggest you STFU and GTFO. Groups are going to do what they want and occasionally it will spill over across the internet as either part of roll playing or actual issues with the persons involved. Stop your bitching about something you have NOTHING TO DO WITH and leave those in charge to moderate what needs to be moderated. Simply put, "if you have nothing relevant to say, say nothing at all ...and GTFO"-Anon Proverb Funny because 4chan does not follow the proverb at all but its there some where! I have seen it! o.o--President Jackson 12:42, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

The wiki is a community. And your spastic bullshit spills out into Admin pages and into places where others have to deal with it. As a member of ths community, I can comment on it as much, and as freely as I like. I can also point out the fact that you're a idiot, as often as I feel like -- even though it's stating self-fucking-evident. And there's absolutely NOTHING you can do about it. Now... you can stop your bitching and go find something better to do with yourself. Like standing in front a subway train. --WanYao 11:30, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Your bitching is "...self-fucking-evident." as stated with the post above. Again no one forces you to read our shit. You have so little to do with this community except point out things that you spent the entirety of however long it took you to read and bitch about it later, which again is "...self-fucking-evident." No one invites you to these things Wan Yao so piss off and stop acting like your soo important to the wiki, I act important/pompous/arrogant because its part of my played roll as president of Umbrella. You and Iscariot should just get a room and start sucking each others giant douche, I swear. If this were a real community you and Iscariot would be the fake police or citizen watch LOL. Uh oh, I sense flame war.--President Jackson 13:24, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

WanYao said:

The wiki is a community. And your spastic bullshit spills out into Admin pages and into places where others have to deal with it.

I don't care if you flame each others talk pages with nonsense. Really, I don't, as throughout this conflict, I've just been doing what I usually do-staying impartial. However, I really suggest you read the quote above. Spamming up the admin pages with bullshit makes you no friends, and, quite frankly, makes you look stupid. That goes for both sides-I don't play favorites.

Just because you are at war with them in game, doesn't mean you have to create needless drama against them in the Wiki. For example, my own group (MCM) and the FOD have been at war with each other for about a month now. I, obviously, don't support the FOD's actions in-game. I don't however, flame their talk pages up with useless nonsense, attack them on admin pages for no reason. Hell I've even been helpful! I don't like using myself as an example, but it's the only recent one that comes to mind.

All of you are fine people-I've worked with Haliman and Li in normal wiki tasks, and I don't hold any grudge against you (Jackson,) or Thad. However, I do suggest that you calm down, take a step back, and keep the drama in game. It's clearly not making you any friends, is just pissing of regular wiki users trying to do their job, and is, quite frankly, wasting everyone's time.

Haliman111 said:

. If you haven't realized, we aren't the most popular groups, and I think know our groups are the main drama causers on the whole damn wiki. Both of us. Not just you guys.

Haliman nicely sums it up in that line. The wiki and the game are separate in terms of drama. Bringing game drama to the wiki just makes you look stupid, makes everyone annoyed, and slows the whole process down. I would be stupid for assigning the blame on just one side-no matter what you think, but please take a step back, take a breath, and think this out. Linkthewindow  Talk  13:59, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

And I understand; we are working diligently to solve this problem and put it behind us. I just like attacking WanYao and Iscariot for fun, being the pompous douche bags that they are, thinking they run this place. Iscariot is actually playing it smart for right now resisting temptations, but I am sure to here from him later. Also the internet is a large place and this sort of thing has happened before with that whole PK Alliance against the Imperium and made pages that consisted purely of calling members of the Imperium fagots with no viable information on it... hmm, not sure if that page got deleted but it should have considering recent circumstances.--President Jackson 13:24, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I declare this case dead

Yeps.--Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 01:13, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

*Dances on dead case.* Anyone planning on getting this finished? I'll give Cheese and the people being arbirated a poke. Linkthewindow  Talk  05:31, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Almost 3 weeks since the last edit, so more like left for dead in a ditch off the side of the road. --ZsL 07:57, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

True, but might as well check. Linkthewindow  Talk  08:20, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

I SAID IT WAS DEAD!--Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 23:03, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Holy motherfucking shit of fucking shitting fuck -- Adward  23:07, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Word. --Haliman - Talk 18:33, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

What part of "dead" did you not underst- wait, Malton. ... Zombies. ... Oh. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 04:34, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

(grabs a chainsaw) This page is never going to live again! (carefully dissects each section with the just precision that only a chainsaw can provide)--President Jackson 00:42, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

.*Lights chainsaw on fire.* Don't wanna cramp your style ;). Suicidal Angel needs to come in and make mega font again, though. Just to be sure. --Haliman - Talk 00:49, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm being serious now, this has gone on long enough. Come Friday, it's being archived.--Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 20:50, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Considering there's been a ruling, I don't see anyone trying to stop you. Linkthewindow  Talk  20:51, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm lazy. I was trying to be all serious-like so someone else would do it. Please do it instead? :) --Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 21:16, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Alrighty then. Archived and protected naow. Linkthewindow  Talk  06:44, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

YAYAYA! Thanks.--Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 20:54, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Forgot about this again. =/ It is done by the way, as far as I'm concerned anyway. -- Cheese 21:28, 26 March 2009 (UTC)