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| | == EMR BOT == |
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| == Thanks ==
| | Is the bot still alive? I've been updating some of the talk pages. Please respond. --[[User:Gmoney|Gmoney]] 09:04, 25 February 2012 (UTC) |
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| {{Cookie|Linkthewindow|The Rooster|reason=for helping with the great suburb group massacre}}.
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| Thanks for your help (and also for lurking on my talk page so often.) {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 05:32, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
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| == U doan liek.. ==
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| ..my congratulations for Link? :'( --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 13:28, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
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| :Of course not, he's awesome. Just trying to keep the news matter-of-fact tis all. Otherwise all the other recent successful promotees look unloved. Can't have people thinking they're not loved, or they might attempt a wiki-coup. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 18:51, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Well, they could also [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_b3GHoGMBNpY/SWp3SxoS_VI/AAAAAAAADSA/8vrSzV6qoAM/s400/lolcat42.jpg hide]. --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 21:57, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
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| == Sig ==
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| I've had it for 6 months and used it on both Chrome and Firefox and I never saw anything wrong with it. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 23:01, 5 March 2009 (UTC)<br><sup>Yet this sentence which I'm typing now will get overlapped horribly. Watch as this typical superscript with no size changes overlaps with the subscript quiet easily indeed.</sup> (I think I've got enough text there so that it will occur at most res's) The change you made to make the letters smaller fixes the problem when people use newlines to break text which is what happens most of the time. If text is broken with a br-tag (like this message) or used by a template in a similar fashion it might still cause problems with superscript. It is a rare occurrence though. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 16:36, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
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| == Preliminary Discussion ==
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| The design for the new main page seems good to go, however I'm discussing some supposed colour problems with Honest. Before I forget, I have a few good ideas for the [[UDWiki:Community Portal|Community Portal]]:
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| *Articles needing work - Meaning an entire list of articles, or ones of top priority
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| *Ongoing discussion - Things that wouldn't be on [[UDWiki:News|Wiki News]] but that require attention
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| *Community Projects - A full list of the active/ongoing ones, the rest archived
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| *Technical help - Technical wiki questions (not like "how do I sign?")
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| *General notices - Again, something that isn't announced on the main page but needs attention
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| *Other things the community would be interested in
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| Probably couldn't be all on the same page, so there'd be links to some of these (such as technical help). --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 19:59, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
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| :Good thoughts and some similar to some of what I had in mind too. I must pick your mind over whether the page is 'good to go' though. I did a count of the yays v nays and got 16v16. That's not a majority opinion by any means. We can't go acting on such numbers, surely? {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 13:46, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
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| ::You have to read the comments they put. I've managed to shave down all the nays to basically "the colour". --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 16:46, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Unless you can properly address it, and even if you do, you'll still be looking at an unpromising ratio of votes to try and convince whomever happens by A/PT when you request it. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 17:50, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::There aren't any guidelines to implementing such a large change, really it just boils down to getting as much support through compromises and changes. I'm sure whatever sysop looks at the request will see what it's gone through to get it liked by everyone as much as possible and the fact that's impossible to get it yay'd by everyone, unfortunately. You'll probably find that there's a significant lack of complaining on the talk page if/when it gets implemented.--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 18:47, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
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| :::::Yeah, one would hope so. I'll defer to you on that. Moving on, the CP does indeed need some major re-organization, and adding some of the above pages as sub-pages as needed will be a start. The actual CP page itself will need re-doing since it's going about everything all wrong. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 19:50, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
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| Slightly off-topic, but do you see rounded borders [[User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sandbox11|here]]? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 00:11, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
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| :Nope :) I viewed one of the images somebody had posted in the main page discussion, showing the borders on the design. The aliased edges are pretty disturbing, so I get to win on that count regardless. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 17:06, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Ah, well. The corners look much better on a Mac, much smoother. Lots of things look better on a Mac. Yep. Mac. Buy a Mac. Now. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 20:36, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
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| {{*}}Ehem* last thing. It seems smart to mention the Community Portal reboot in the CP section on the main page. Do you have anything in mind? Are we calling this project anything? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:29, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
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| :Yeah, make it the top message in the CP section, that's a good thought. Doesn't need a project though. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:40, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
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| ::[[User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sandbox2|Everything is up to date and ready, unless you spot something wrong]]. I noticed that the CP section stretches the full width when the Wiki News section is small. A good thing, it cuts down on the white "emptyness." The CP section is of course still lacking, but we'll worry about that later. Yarp?--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:45, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Your magical code means that it auto-adjusts perfectly. I saw a full width CP even when the news was medium length, and it cleverly stole the CP's room when I windowed it to test 800*600. It's brilliant. Anyway, I just whipped through and made the most pedantic edits I think I'll ever make. For the most part it was just capitalizing the letters in the hex code. In the nav links though (box8 I think), the pink header text has a font size of 102%. That seems a bit pathetic, is it important in some way, or can it be dropped? Finally, and I'm probably insulting you merely by suggesting that you overlooked it, you do plan on templating the "Last Game Update" table at the top of the page, right? Otherwise, no more narks I can see. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 20:39, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::Bah, yeah I've forgotten the {{tl|Lastupdate}} template. The teeny 102% increase in font size was requested, it does make a difference, albeit a small one. I'll make the request later, couple of hours I suppose, when I have the time. Since I need to explain what goes where.--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 20:50, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
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| Um, [[UDWiki:Community Portal|hehehe]]. Anyways, we're going for a complete redesign for the CP, right? I'll cook something up. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 16:26, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
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| :Yay for collateral damage, I've replaced it with a lolcat for now, so knock up something soon if you can. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 17:41, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
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| == STARS is still active. ==
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| [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/STARS http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/STARS] --{{User:Jackson/Sig}} 16:44, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
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| :And this concerns me how? {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 17:33, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
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| == EMRPs ==
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| Replied [[User talk:Dr Cory Bjornson#EMRP.27s|here]].
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| Also, a bot to maintain the [[User Hub]]? {{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 19:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
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| :Maintain in what fashion? And does anybody even use the thing? {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 20:06, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
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| ::See it's talk page, most recent edits. See what its [[User:linkthewindow|creator]] thinks? {{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 22:28, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
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| :::I officially define that page as "I can see the advantage" on the scale of pages that can benefit from scripted maintenance and "Meh" on the scale of pages for which it would be worth the effort. I'll get Link's opinion though. No doubt his talk page will interest a few other users since it gets stalked so much, mine is backwater by comparison. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:40, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::Stole mah idea for the mall logos >.> {{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 00:37, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
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| == Danger Reports ==
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| Mmh.. I don't know if it's changed now because of the bots, but just wanted to say that [[Lazarus General Hospital]] doesn't have the template. :) --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 00:32, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
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| :Most things don't have templates. The Timekeeping Bot just marks report unknown, it doesn't create missing reports. Forts, Malls, NTs, Large Buildings, MPMs and the Zoo have templates. TRPs have a decent coverage of templates, but not all. The generic stuff might have a template if you're lucky. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 20:11, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
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| == Thanks for the sig help! ==
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| Cock a doodle doooooooooo! --{{User:Paddy Dignam/sig}} 22:49, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
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| == Question ==
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| Would it be possible to write a bot to change pages with [[:Category:Human Groups]] to [[:Category:Survivor Groups]]? -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 23:41, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
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| :Easily, yes. I could manually nab a copy of the pages listed in said category, have them loaded individually and then just find/replace <nowiki>[[Category:Human Groups]]</nowiki> to <nowiki>[[Category:Survivor Groups]]</nowiki>. Job done. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:45, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
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| ...is lovely. Great work! {{User:Extropymine/sig}} 22:33, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
| | Hey, how do you make user boxes? --[[User:Suburb 22 Zombies|Suburb 22 Zombies]] 03:37, 17 April 2011 (BST) |
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| :You think so? I can get a decent overview from the [[NT Status Map]] myself, but there's too many colours here and I find I have to concentrate on portions of the map to make heads or tails of it. How well are you able to cope? {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:37, 13 March 2009 (UTC) | | == Template:Mall Logo == |
| ::Well, I stare at the NT Map ''a lot'', so honestly it doesn't bug me anymore. However, I can see from a newbie POV that it might seem crowded or confusing. So... hmm. Personally, I never found the "flow" of colors in the dangermap to be particularly good. I like green (safe) to yellow (attack) to orange (siege) to red (ruined) as a degree of danger, but purple isn't an intuitive "hostile" color, and it's supposed to be "in zombie hands," which is pretty damned hostile.
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| ::In all honesty, having been making rounds with NecroWatch the last month, from my POV "under siege" is a useless status, since it implies a sense of immediacy that the Wiki doesn't do a good job with. Either something is under attack or its not; am I going to go there ''faster'' because someone rated it as "under siege"? I feel the same way about blue for "rebuilding"; I don't know what it's supposed to mean. People (including myself) just seem to use it to say "no zombies, but not powered and EHB either," and so it's a pretty vague status.
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| ::I guess what I'm saying is that I would support changes to simplify the status color scheme, if someone suggested it. I'd get rid of "under siege" entirely, and I would probably combine "ruined" and "in zombie hands" into one status (since really, what's the functional difference to someone using this map?).
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| ::Sorry, I'm rambling a little. Other things that might help "break up" the combined status map might be thin borders around the forts and malls, to help subtly distinguish them and make the map a little easier on the eye.{{User:Extropymine/sig}} 22:59, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Rambling is awesome, people actually say enough that you can guage their opinion properly, and it makes for interesting discourse!
| | Does it need to be case sensitive? Lots of people tend to make the first letter upper-case. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 00:30, 26 April 2011 (BST) |
| | | :I made a change so that whichever case is used during the update, it is converted to lower case for the purpose of {{tl|Mall Logo}}. See [[User:DangerReport/Bale Mall]] and [[Bale Mall]]. The former has upper case Ruined, yet the Bal Mall logo is the correct logo (ruined). ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>00:57, 26 April 2011</sub> |
| :::The system has been around longer than me, and I've had to work around it. The MPM page has this sort of sliding colour scheme (with purple = in zombie hands) and so I adopted that. It's less intuitive as hostile, maybe, but flows on from red in the colour spectrum so it could be worse than say a random beige colour or something. I had no idea what to do with rebuilding TBH, it's a weird fucking status and so I just borrowed the blue colour from the fact it's little image has a blue background. As an aside, rot revive is brown since these NTs are usually ruined, so brown is similar to the ruined red colour, since the building can be sucky as a safehouse but isn't unsafe persay.
| | ::Gotcha. So it converts all of the text to be lowercase. Nice. :D --{{User:Akule/sig}} 01:06, 26 April 2011 (BST) |
| | | :::Yeah it converts the result of {{tl|DRstatus}} to lower case. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>01:16, 26 April 2011</sub> |
| :::As far as under siege goes, I'm not entirely against it, it's so rare that any building actually holds out long enough to attract a zombie horde big enough that I find it interesting to see orange pop up occasionally. As an indicator of status, well yeah, it's not that useful I guess. I do support the distinction of ruined/in zombie hands though. Ruined means you can walk in and fix the thing up right off, in zombie hands means you're gonna need some guns and patience first. Mapwise, you could combine them I guess, though I'd feel like I wasn't making the most of all the possible statuses. Ransacked/ruined is combined, though (It's a pointless difference anyway, no buildings stay ransacked for longer than the ten seconds it takes just to go for the ruin)
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| :::I was considering putting a 1px black border round the forts, with a gap on the gatehouse square, just for the heck of it (and maybe back it up with some waffle about not being able to enter through those sides). I don't think much more is needed to differentiate the three buildings though, NTs all being 1x1, malls 2x2 and forts 3x3, that's a great differentiator-in-a-can right there.
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| :::If you ever do suggest redefining some of the statuses, give me a shout, I have [[User:The Rooster/Sandpit/7|some rambling]] about changing the little images so the background colours make more sense on a sliding scale of danger. Maybe a good idea to bring to the CP once that's been revamped. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:54, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::I'll let it squoosh around in my brainpan a bit more. I like the idea of indicating the gatehouses on forts quite a bit.
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| ::::As long as something goes up to replace the horrible (and I mean '''horrible''') [[Mall map]] page, I will be happy in the short-term ;) {{User:Extropymine/sig}} 02:24, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
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| Why do Williamsville and Miltown lack a border as part of their danger color scheme? {{User:Extropymine/sig}} 08:59, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
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| :Looks fine to me, maybe somebody was messing the reports around earlier? {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 11:50, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Still looks funny to me... here's a screen grab. Look at Lockettside, Williamsville and Miltown:
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| ::See how Lockettside, Williamsville and Miltown don't have colored borders? {{User:Extropymine/sig}} 08:29, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
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| ===StatusMap Colour Tweaks===
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| Anyway, as I have been thinking about it, it seems to me like the danger level should progress like this...
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| Since "In Zombie Hands" is more dangerous than "Ruined" in actual play. For the other statuses (stati?), I'd mostly keep them as they are, with one minor change...
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| I made "Ruined" a very dark grey (I'd also thought about white with a thin black border), to evoke more of a ruined feel to it. Anyway, what do you think? I worry any change might be a struggle to get any of this past the community, but maybe I'm wrong. {{User:Extropymine/sig}} 08:29, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
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| :I think I traced the problem with the borders, those reports had a space between the template and the noinclude, which doesn't seem to be a problem for IE but seemingly FF doesn't like it. I fixed two of them, see if you're still getting the error with that one, if so, just edit the report and remove the space. I noticed from your pic that the gridlines are actually 1px too high. I set them to be -1px so they worked for me, I might have to try setting them to 0px like they should be and seeing if I can find a way to get both browsers to align it the same.
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| :The colours used on the StatusMap are not a worry community wise, I seriously just made them up on the spot when I created the whole system, and I'm more or less still the only editor of the system. If you change the key, you'd probably get no complaints, if anybody even noticed. Anyway, I can see sense in the top four for a sliding scale. Unknown should certainly be the gray it is now. The other three are a toss up. Ruined is a sort of 'kinda' dangerous and rebuilding is a 'kinda' safe. Maybe that should be reflected somehow? And rot revive is still weird. Usually they are ruined, but usually not that unsafe, sometimes they are even caded and decaded as needed, therefore being safe 99% of the time.
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| :Maybe a pink colour for ruined (not the eye-burning kind, more of a pale red) and a pale green for rebuilding? The pink/pale red would complement the red or gray of VD and GT burbs, respectively, that those buildings tend to be in, while pale green goes with green and yellow of safe and moderate. Guess rot revive could stay brown. Brown is an odd colour, so it suits the odd rot revives. Something about having ruined as dark gray just doesn't cut it for me. Do keep pinging the ideas back and forth, and hopefully we'll up with something sensible by the end. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 16:47, 18 March 2009 (UTC) | |
| ::That space between the template and the noinclude was spot-on. I changed that last one and it looks fine in FireFox now. {{User:Extropymine/sig}} 16:59, 18 March 2009 (UTC) | |
| ===Colour Tweaks Continued===
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| Okay, so you're thinking something like this?
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| | bgcolor="#F6CECE" align=center | Ruined
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| | bgcolor="#cccccc" align=center | Unknown
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| | bgcolor="#CEF6E3" align=center | Rebuilding
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| {{User:Extropymine/sig}} 05:39, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
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| :More or less yeah. You think it's reasonable? {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 18:03, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
| | Oh god. This makes things ''worse''! {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:40, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| ::Seems good to me, but maybe a test run to see if the pastel colors of the "transition" statuses fade too much into the suburb danger colors. {{User:Extropymine/sig}} 05:20, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
| | :The wiki update, I take it? --{{User:Akule/sig}} 22:47, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| :::Yeah I won't use those ''exact'' colours. Whatever I can get to show up and maintain the same brightness/saturation for consistancy within the danger and transitionals. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 20:31, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
| | ::Accepting uppercase input. Basically breaks a dozen other templates if it's used. But it's hardly world-endingly bad. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:50, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| ::::The other thing worth doing (probably) is looking at the danger status images. I don't know whose "property" they are (if anyone's), but for example...
| | :::It makes for some unusual problems, as people can make variant group names just by altering case. Such as [[The dead]] or [[the dead]] or [[tHe Dead]] or [[the DEad]] (the actual group is [[The Dead]] or [[the Dead]]). --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:01, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
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| ::::It'd be neat to change the background color from yellow/orange to green, to match. Is that worth pursuing? {{User:Extropymine/sig}} 21:25, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
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| :::::Yeah, I had a similar thought in my little rambling section of my sandpit. That would probably need community support since they're so umbiquitious. Hagnat made them originally, but they aren't 'owned' persay. I was figuring raising the issue at the CP once that revamp is done. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 21:31, 20 March 2009 (UTC) | |
| ::::::Well, I've got your back, if and when you do. {{User:Extropymine/sig}} 21:42, 20 March 2009 (UTC) | |
| Hey, I have another little pipe-dream about the Status Map. When you mouseover a building, you get "The BLAH Building is safe". Is there any way at all to make that fuctionality draw off the timestamp of the danger report that gives it that color? For instance, I just updated [[the Hippesley Building]] as rebuilding and signed my update with a timestamp. Is there any way to make stat status map show
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| <small>The Hippesley Building is rebuilding ({{User:Extropymine/sig}} 22:15, 20 March 2009 (UTC))</small>
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| when you mouseover, or something similar? Or is that not possible? {{User:Extropymine/sig}} 22:22, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
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| :Probably not within the constraints of wiki-markup. I originally wanted to show the timestamps, but you need to include the whole userline in the tooltip, which means you see all the markup and it didn't work that well. If there is a way, it's well beyond my skills. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:25, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Your skillz pay the billz, so don't sweat it. Unless there was a way to draw the code in a form like the recent updates page, where it filters out signatures and such, I can see it breaking the tooltip. {{User:Extropymine/sig}} 22:32, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
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| I changed the colours on the maps (yay for my supurb planning ahead, only 1 edit per status!) Unfortunately the background to the safe and V.D 'burb statuses are pretty much the same pastel we were aiming at, so I've darkened them to be somewhere inbetween the usual safe/in zombie hands colour and the background burb colour. It doesn't seem too bad, but I dunno, could go either way on it. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:22, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
| | Nonono. I mean accepting "Ruined" v "ruined" in the template. Long story short, probably all the templates in [[:Category:DangerReport Formatting Templates|this category]] would also need this fix which honestly is more effort for maintenance than users just getting it right. |
| :My initial reaction: it looks great, and flows '''much''' better. I only have a couple things with it. Under Siege needs to maybe "pop" more as a color (one shade more red?), and I think Under Attack could go one shade more orange. Both blend in a little too much. I think Rebuilding looks great, but somehow the color for Ruined doesn't say "ruined" to me. But by golly, this is progress! {{User:Extropymine/sig}} 23:51, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Yeah the ruined doesn't come across great, but I rather like rebuilding. I redid under siege and it stand out much better, but the yellow of under attack refuses to come out nicely, it didn't before and it doesn't want to now. I tried a few and it just sucks on orange backgrounds if you notch it too far towards orange or darker, and sucks on yellow like now. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 00:12, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Siege looks great now, and yeah... I'm not sure what you can do with Under Attack. It's either blending in to Moderate or Dangerous. So, hmmph. {{User:Extropymine/sig}} 00:26, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
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| == Recruitment and ad size == | | I didn't mean anything regarding the wiki update. Names have always been case sensitive as I recall, so that's nothing new. (The automatic redirect regardless of the first letters case was also there before) {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:06, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| | :I pointed the problem out to people, so Vapor formatted the base template to [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Template%3ABuildingStatus&action=historysubmit&diff=1881400&oldid=1527038 automatically lowercase the status]. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:21, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
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| | ::It breaks all those other templates which use the status variable, but didn't get changed. Plus since the uppercase input now "works" on the report template, people use it without realising it causes other breakages. |
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| | ::I'm saying it's less effort for user to just correct it if they do it wrong (which they'd notice with a broken image link) then to apply the lowercase logic on all templates that access the status in some way. |
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| Why 600*800px? That is more height than the lowest resolution, 800*600px, can display. That would result in ads being 200px out of screen. 600*600px limit would result in it still being in screen as that accounts for the sidebar and gives the correct height.
| | ::Take a gander at [[Special:Wantedtemplates]], you'll notice several templates with an uppercase status being requested, and they don't exist so there'll be derped results somewhere. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:30, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| | :::Ah, gotcha. I didn't realize it caused other breakages. Can we go through the rest of the templates to fix them to make them as derp proof as possible? I only ask because I imagine that the people who will not care about the casing will make more work for those of us who do care in the long run. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:40, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| | ::::Well... if it really matters in the long run... then yeah. I'll get around to it. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:52, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| | :::::Whenever you can is fine. I had just originally brought it up as various users (mainly new ones) kept breaking the various status templates when [[The Dead 2.0]] swept over the land. I didn't want to end up changing them, as I don't have a strong understanding of wikicode. Thank you in advance. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:59, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
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| Not sure of the use of the term 'longer'. Do you mean width or height? In either case it cannot be 800px while on a 800*600px resolution as (as mentioned above) it would result in the ads being outside of the screen. It might not be necessary to state a max value for px, easier to just state; 'you may not use a variable higher than 100% for both height and width'.
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| If you could make clear if I am misunderstanding that would be helpful, I'm pretty much for the changes, I just want to be sure what exactly is being said. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 22:56, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
| | I must admit, I'm quite ashamed of it myself. You ''did'' gave me the EMR Bot before leaving, but I never got the chance to use it, test it, or even learn it for that matter. I've been thinking ''"I must do it, for The Rooster is gone and no one else can"'' for months, but never bothered to run it even once, until the page clogged up and I had to move some old EMRs elsewhere. |
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| :The 800px height limit is designed not to ensure that ads are viewable to the 800*600 folks without needing to scroll. That would be horribly restrictive as we'd need something along the lines of a 600*400 max which is restrictive. The 800px height limit is just to prevent people having stupidly long ads, and on proper resolutions scrolling will be minimal, a group should take into consideration the scrolling issues and the formatting etc anyway, it's their ad so they are responsible for its appearance. The overall limits are to prevent ads interfering with the page as a whole. | | You can find those EMRs, archived from October 29th to November 30th, at my [[User:Kittithaj/Sandbox#EMRP:_Reports_to_Process|Sandbox]] page. Thank you for returning and working with them. And sorry I couldn't/didn't do something with them. -- [[User:Kittithaj|Kittithaj]] 02:13, 4 June 2011 (BST) |
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| :The ambiguous 'longer' means height. Can easily replace it with 'higher' to be totally obvious. Again, this is needed to ensure non-mad advert length. A person can skirt the measures by setting width 100%, the browser will happily scale to full width and ''be left to its own devices in deciding the height needed'' so an advert that is overly long would still go over a screen, or 800px, or anything you might set as a limit. Forcing them to set both means the advert A) ''Has'' to fill the screen, even it this leaves space everywhere. B) Defeats the object of setting the absolute limits in the first place. Variable settings are used but sometimes people don't consider squashing the ad to a small res to test it at which point it starts breaking stuff because there's not enough room. Absolute settings means that WYSIWYG for any res, so it's harder to go wrong and also easier to enforce. | | :Ah no worries, if nothing else you'd kept an immaculate log that would've done the job just fine anyway. I checked your backup and I did process all of those reports so they're safe to nuke. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 07:20, 4 June 2011 (BST) |
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| :I'll correct the 'longer' thing. Otherwise if you feel it's still a bad proposal then by all means shoot it down, hopefully more people would get involved in refining it properly next go, damned discussion barely went anywhere on the size limits... {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:34, 13 March 2009 (UTC) | | I posted a question on the [[Talk:EMRP:_Reports_to_Process]] talk page but I'm hoping that you could answer the question since you're controlling the bot. Should all of the "Reports to Process Later" entries be moved to the "Reports to Process" heading? And should the lone report from Feb 28 then be wiped?--[[User:Uroguy|Uroguy]]<sup>[[Zookeepers|TMZ]]</sup> 03:20, 4 June 2011 (BST) |
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| == Legends of Darkness ==
| | :I answered the talk page. I'll be messing around with the headers a bit until I catch up. No need to worry, just stick everything under "Later" for now. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 07:20, 4 June 2011 (BST) |
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| My Dark Mistress, Psychotic Pantomime, has informed me you have been most helpful in your suggestions (catergorize LoD, bots). However, I am more wiki savvy then here (I steal code and learn how to use if for my purposes). I am most interested in your suggestions, but not solid enough on my own coding to implement them myself. Hit up my talk page or LoD talk page where you have been posting if you are interested in helping us.
| | :: Thanks I appreciate the explanation. --[[User:Uroguy|Uroguy]]<sup>[[Zookeepers|TMZ]]</sup> 07:23, 4 June 2011 (BST) |
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| [[User:Gus Thomas|Donald Crane]], Panty's right hand man. | | [[:File:1001 Days in Urban Dead.gif]] which you uploaded is currently [[Special:Unusedfiles|unused]] and is subject to deletion if it is older than two weeks. If you wish to ensure that it remains on this wiki then you will need to ensure that it is included in at least one page on this wiki..--[[User:Thegeneralbot|A helpful bot]] 16:45, 14 June 2011 (BST) |
| | :Ironically, including the image is stupid since the wiki thumbnailer breaks horribly. *shrug* {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 12:23, 16 June 2011 (BST) |
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| :If you're referring about the category, all you have to do is go to that page and edit it so it has some content, job done. Since it's your category I was going to let your group do it. As to the suggestions, I'm not sure what suggestions you're on about, all I wanted to do was let you know your category was a redlink... {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 19:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
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| | You're like a zombie, you know that? You disappear, then for strange reasons you rise and shamble and get active again. I would call it curious were it not for your involvement over the years in a browser-based zombie apocalypse game... ... |
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| Rooster, [[User:Alka_Selzer|Alka Selzer]] has taken the time and trouble to turn the Recon Map into an actual template! I'm not sure whether it should remain in his user space or if it should be moved into the general template category, though. Can you chime in on the [[Talk:NecroWatch/Team#A_Customizable_NT_Map.3F|discussion on the NW talk page]] and let us know what the best course is? Thanks! {{User:Extropymine/sig}} 15:51, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
| | It's good to see you again, Rooster. ;) --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 20:43, 16 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| :If it's done, it should probably be moved to the template namespace since it can be used by everybody. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 18:05, 19 March 2009 (UTC) | | :Thanks :) Although, thinking about it, I didn't play the game much... {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 21:18, 16 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| upgraded to IE8 yet, its out of Beta now? --{{User:Dr Eddie Ashford/Sig}} 14:15, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
| | Hi! Just wanted to let you know that because the [[User:ExternalMilitaryReportBot|EMRBot]] hasn't been run in over two years, I'm shutting down [[EMRP: Reports to Process]]. New users still sometimes post EMRs there expecting them to be processed, so I've posted a sign at the top letting them know it's not active. If the Bot returns at some point, feel free to remove the sign and restart RtP. Thanks! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 13:59, 30 November 2013 (UTC) |
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| :Thanks for the message, I have upgraded now. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 19:37, 20 March 2009 (UTC) | | == [[:File:1001 Days in Urban Dead.gif|Thankyou for this.]] == |
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| ::No problem. <tt>:)</tt> It was only after I tried that nifty little 'Compatability View' feature that I noticed the difference in the main page setup. Just glad that it was an IE7 error and not an overall IE error, otherwise we'd still be staring at the main page attached to the top of the screen. --{{User:Dr Eddie Ashford/Sig}} 19:57, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Yeah, the IE team seems to be finally getting their act together after the horror that was IE6. I must retest acid 3 sometime and see how it's doing on that front. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 20:01, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
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