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===Shrink the map===
=Suggestions=
===[[User:Awesome Suggestion Guy|Awesome Suggestion Guy]]'s suggestions===
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|'''Time:'''[[User:Awesome Suggestion Guy|Awesome Suggestion Guy]] 00:24, 18 July 2011 (BST)  
|'''Timestamp:''' --[[User:Uroguy|Uroguy]]<sup>[[Zookeepers|TMZ]]</sup> 16:28, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
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|'''Name:''' Tear Gas Canister
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|'''Type:'''Survivor.
|'''Type:''' Map change
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|'''Scope:'''Survivor Skill and an Item.
|'''Scope:''' Everyone
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|'''Description:''' So I thought this would be a fun little idea. You could essentially loot Police Departments for tear-gas. What it would do is reduce the attack and search rates of a building to that of a ruined
|'''Description:''' There are just over 3000 active characters in the game currently likely counting a significant percentage of alts and zergs. Shrinking the map by eliminating the outer first two rings of suburbs would increase the amount of interactions between the remaining characters. This shrink could be increased or decreased depending on future changes to the playerbase.
one when deployed. So, for example, if there is a zombie break-in, one could deploy tear gas to have a better chance of survival. PKers could use it to kill someone and then remain reasonably secure. Zombie spies/Death Cultists could use it to troll survivors. It would dissipate after a certain number of actions taken by players as it fizzes out and disperses.  
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[[Image:spam.jpg|65px]]  {{User:Mazu/sig}}  03:34, 18 July 2011 (BST)
====Discussion (Shrink the map)====
 
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===Action Points===
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|'''Time:'''[[User:Awesome Suggestion Guy|Awesome Suggestion Guy]] 00:15, 18 July 2011 (BST)
|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Wolldog1]] 10:07, 26 July 26, 2022
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|'''Name:''' Scent Bombs.
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|'''Type:'''Survivor.
|'''Type:''' Action Points Increase Regeneration Rate
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|'''Scope:'''Survivor Skill and an Item.
|'''Scope:''' Everyone
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|'''Description:''' Pretty simple. Survivors would be able to drop scent bombs to interfere with the zombie "Scent" skill trees, particularly the one where if you interact with a zombie they can magically
|'''Description:''' Due to the passage of time with mobile games and other real time action games without restriction, I think that we should address the action points system of the game. This game can only realistically be played for 5 minutes a day. So it's not really a seller for new blood. If we want to see this game survive it needs to evolve into something more exciting than 5 minutes. My suggestion is double the regeneration rate to improve activity. I love this game.  I want to play it more. And the die hard fans I'm sure feel the same. More will go on in a day, sure. But that's for both sides. We're ready for it. Let's get this game moving again. We need this.
track you down across ten blocks with their Godlike sense of smell. They would of course be single-use items and require an additional skill. Real-life criminals use it to distract police dogs, so it should work with zombies, who evidently have evolved to have a similar sense of smell.  
 
 
:This could be pretty cool! --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 00:45, 19 July 2011 (BST)
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====Discussion (Action Points)====
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===Drone===
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|'''Time:'''[[User:Awesome Suggestion Guy|Awesome Suggestion Guy]] 00:03, 18 July 2011 (BST)  
|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup>  19:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
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|'''Name:''' Hang Glider.
|'''Type:''' Survivor Item
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|'''Type:'''Survivor.
|'''Scope:''' Survivors
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|'''Scope:'''Survivor Skill and an Item.
|'''Description:''' Portable drone, found in mall tech stores, which are pointless as we all know. Encumbrance is 10%. When activated for 15ap they provide an image of a 10x10 grid centred on the survivor, showing the current outside status of all blocks including zombies, survivors and dead bodies. Like DNA scanners, Drones are multi use.
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|'''Description:''' The Hand Gliding skill would be a subset of the Free-Running skill. It would also require that one search a Mall Sports Store in order to find one. Essentially, survivors would get Hand Gliders and be able to use them to jump off (repaired) tall buildings like Mobile-Phone Masts, Towers, and some Hotels. It would work in many ways like the binocular skill, where you choose a direction to glide to. You would then glide maybe like five or so blocks to the location that you picked. If you land on the street or a ruined building, you will take damage from injuring yourself. If you land on a regular building, you will be fine. If you land on another tall building, you will hit the wall and fall and take two times the damage from your fall. Overall, this could be a fun addition to the game as you would have to plan and gives you an element of risk vs reward: If the building I was planning on gliding to is ruined or I hit another tall building, I'll take damage, whereas if I am correct, I will save AP on movement.
 
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====Discussion (Drone)====
Would there be a message displayed to the players to the effect of "there's a drone buzzing overhead", similar to a flare? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:19, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
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===More useful Melee weapons===
===Backpack===
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|'''Time:'''[[User:Awesome Suggestion Guy|Awesome Suggestion Guy]] 01:16, 16 July 2011 (BST)  
|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Wild Crazy|Wild Crazy]] ([[User talk:Wild Crazy|talk]]) 20:55, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
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|'''Name:''' More useful Melee weapons
|'''Type:''' New item
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|'''Type:'''Survivor
|'''Scope:''' Survivors
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|'''Scope:'''Survivor Skills and Items
|'''Description:''' This will be a new item found in schools with a 2% find rate and sports stores with a 4% find rate. The low numbers are because, like a flak jacket, once you find it you have it forever. It increases you encumbrance by 30%. However, you can't use an item that is in your backpack until you remove it from the backpack. It costs one AP to add an item to your backpack and one AP to remove an item. An item affects your regular encumbrance until added to the backpack. Items such as GPS, radios, cell phones, and flak jacket do not work when in your backpack. Items in your backpack will not be shown in your inventory, but the backpack itself will be shown in your inventory. There will be a drop box next to the word backpack that shows all the items inside. When you click on an item in that drop box, it removes it from your backpack (1 AP).
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|'''Description:'''Presently, zombies have the best melee attacks in the game. The fire-axe simply cannot compare to the zombie's claw attacks or their bite. It is also pretty much the only melee weapon worth using. Everything else is a joke in combat. I propose that new melee skill trees open up to allow survivors a bit more variety and effectiveness in melee combat. It's rather quite stale at the moment. Maybe buff the bat a little bit, or add in some swords or a chainsaw. Make it worthwhile for survivors to use something besides the fireaxe for all but the finishing blow.  
 
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Q: Wouldn't this buff survivors, since they can carry more bullets and kill more zombies?
====Discussion (More useful Melee weapons)====
Fix'ed your formatting. Secondly I'm sure there is a dupe and a half just by looking at your proposed melee weapons.{{User:Mazu/sig}}  03:48, 16 July 2011 (BST)


No. Survivors already have access to the best weapons in the game, buffing ''all'' their weaponry is fucking stupid. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:48, 16 July 2011 (BST)
A: Since it costs an AP to add and remove an item, it wastes a lot of AP to put bullet clips in your backpack if you are planning on using them right away.


Survivor melee is fine apart from blunt weapons are a bit useless, but you'll find that every man and his dog has already suggested fixes for that. Sure, survivor melee isn't as good, but then again zombies can't operate shotguns.--{{User:Cap'n Silly/Sig}} 04:15, 16 July 2011 (BST)


you are a dumbass--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>05:03, 16 July 2011 (bst)</small>
Q: If it wastes AP, what is the point?


First, specifics.<br>Second, very likely a [[Suggestion:20100519_Increase_variety_of_useful_melee_weapons|dupe]]. (And sadly peer-rejected.)<br>Third, that survivor melee is inferior is sensible from a balance POV and from the POV of UD's conception. Survivors have the upper hand when they have easy access to consumables and need to be effective on short term (i.e., firearms). Zombies have the upper hand in prolonged wars of attrition, as their basic permanent weaponry is superior. It is also what makes it bad news when zombies break in, as the zombies can potentially do more damage and need less AP then the survivors trying to expel them. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 11:45, 16 July 2011 (BST)
A: It will be useful if you want to carry around an extra stash of items, such as FAKs and Revivification Syringes, or if you are going far away from any resource buildings and need some extra supplies.


Plus there's a [[fencing foil|sword]] already in game. --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 12:43, 16 July 2011 (BST)


Nah, not happening. Here's the way it works: Melee weapon have the advantage of not requiring AP and this is balanced by the lower damage per AP that they do. If melee weapons were as good as ranged weapons then guns would be obsolete and people would start making suggestions to give a "bit more variety and effectiveness in ranged combat".--{{User:The General/sig}} 07:50, 17 July 2011 (BST)
Please give your thoughts.
:Please do not vandalize this wiki with your asinine comments. Continuing this behavior may lead to having your balls ripped off by wild horses.-[[User:JohnnyCakes|JohnnyCakes]] 10:16, 17 July 2011 (BST)
::Please do not vandalize this wiki with your retarded suggestions. Continuing this behavior may lead to forced castration.-[[User:JohnnyCakes|JohnnyCakes]] 10:16, 17 July 2011 (BST)
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===Necrotech Enhanced Bullets===
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|'''Timestamp:''' 10:33, 14 July 2011
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|'''Type:''' Weapon/Survivor Skill
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|'''Scope:''' Survivors
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|'''Description:''' It is incredibly unfair that only zombies get a damage-over-time attack. Survivors should have one too. I propose that a new item enabling one to coat their weapon in a substance that does damage-over-time to zombies, weakening them to the point of death but not actually killing them since this would actually benefit zombies. These would come from Necrotech Buildings and be single-use and the substance wears off after striking a zombie once. It would also be at the bottom of the Necrotech Skill tree, requiring that one pick up all of the skills down to Necronet Access before one can obtain and use the item.
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====Discussion (Necrotech Enhanced Bullets)====
====Discussion (Backpack)====
The idea is cute, and probably not even a dupe too. Though I think it's too overpowered. At the very least you should come up with a way how zombies can cure themselves from the effect, like survivors can with a FAK. -- [[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span>  10:36, 14 July 2011 (BST)
:Oldest DS dupe in the history of mankind. Usually the zombie comes back as a human. Unsurprisingly, it's almost always yeled down on this page, and from what I can see, this would be more OP than some of the others.--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Gold">T</span>]][[DvB| <span style="color: Goldenrod">G</span>]]</sup><sup><span class="plainlinks">[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=840689 <span style="color: DarkGoldenrod"> P</span>] </span></sup> [[User:Yonnua Koponen/Sandbox|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[Discosaurs|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[{{TALKPAGENAME}}#Donkey|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]] 13:00, 14 July 2011 (BST)
::Oh, well, it's pretty obvious I almost never visit developing suggestions, forgive my lack of knowledge. -- [[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span>  14:32, 14 July 2011 (BST)
:::MEh, not visiting DS is a pretty healthy choice imo. Also, I didn't mean to be responding to your comment, and in retrospect, it does look a bit like I was attacking you. :P sorry about that.--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Gold">T</span>]][[DvB| <span style="color: Goldenrod">G</span>]]</sup><sup><span class="plainlinks">[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=840689 <span style="color: DarkGoldenrod"> P</span>] </span></sup> [[User:Yonnua Koponen/Sandbox|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[Discosaurs|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[{{TALKPAGENAME}}#Donkey|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]] 14:35, 14 July 2011 (BST)
::::Didn't took it like that, so no worries. As for not visiting DS, it's mainly because, like most fan-suggestions for any kind of game, you're wasting so much time on something that doesn't go through 99.99% of the time. I can see why people are drawn towards it, but seriously, even the genuine good suggestions that go beyond a simple modification never make the cut. -- [[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span>  15:18, 14 July 2011 (BST)
Survivors have lots of skills that zombies don't have, so giving them a pseudo-infection skill isn't evening anything up <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 03:54, 15 July 2011 (BST)</small>
 
Overpowered and totally illogical. Also good solution to that disgusting spam on the page boxy.. {{User:Mazu/sig}}  04:01, 15 July 2011 (BST)
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===Semi-auto shotguns===
''Cycled to a [[User:Treviabot92/Semi-auto shotgun|user sub-page]] as there had been no real progress in the discussion for weeks'' <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 03:45, 15 July 2011 (BST)</small>
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Shrink the map

Timestamp: --UroguyTMZ 16:28, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
Type: Map change
Scope: Everyone
Description: There are just over 3000 active characters in the game currently likely counting a significant percentage of alts and zergs. Shrinking the map by eliminating the outer first two rings of suburbs would increase the amount of interactions between the remaining characters. This shrink could be increased or decreased depending on future changes to the playerbase.

Discussion (Shrink the map)


Action Points

Timestamp: User:Wolldog1 10:07, 26 July 26, 2022
Type: Action Points Increase Regeneration Rate
Scope: Everyone
Description: Due to the passage of time with mobile games and other real time action games without restriction, I think that we should address the action points system of the game. This game can only realistically be played for 5 minutes a day. So it's not really a seller for new blood. If we want to see this game survive it needs to evolve into something more exciting than 5 minutes. My suggestion is double the regeneration rate to improve activity. I love this game. I want to play it more. And the die hard fans I'm sure feel the same. More will go on in a day, sure. But that's for both sides. We're ready for it. Let's get this game moving again. We need this.

Discussion (Action Points)


Drone

Timestamp: RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Type: Survivor Item
Scope: Survivors
Description: Portable drone, found in mall tech stores, which are pointless as we all know. Encumbrance is 10%. When activated for 15ap they provide an image of a 10x10 grid centred on the survivor, showing the current outside status of all blocks including zombies, survivors and dead bodies. Like DNA scanners, Drones are multi use.

Discussion (Drone)

Would there be a message displayed to the players to the effect of "there's a drone buzzing overhead", similar to a flare? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 02:19, 24 July 2022 (UTC)


Backpack

Timestamp: Wild Crazy (talk) 20:55, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Type: New item
Scope: Survivors
Description: This will be a new item found in schools with a 2% find rate and sports stores with a 4% find rate. The low numbers are because, like a flak jacket, once you find it you have it forever. It increases you encumbrance by 30%. However, you can't use an item that is in your backpack until you remove it from the backpack. It costs one AP to add an item to your backpack and one AP to remove an item. An item affects your regular encumbrance until added to the backpack. Items such as GPS, radios, cell phones, and flak jacket do not work when in your backpack. Items in your backpack will not be shown in your inventory, but the backpack itself will be shown in your inventory. There will be a drop box next to the word backpack that shows all the items inside. When you click on an item in that drop box, it removes it from your backpack (1 AP).


Q: Wouldn't this buff survivors, since they can carry more bullets and kill more zombies?

A: Since it costs an AP to add and remove an item, it wastes a lot of AP to put bullet clips in your backpack if you are planning on using them right away.


Q: If it wastes AP, what is the point?

A: It will be useful if you want to carry around an extra stash of items, such as FAKs and Revivification Syringes, or if you are going far away from any resource buildings and need some extra supplies.


Please give your thoughts.

Discussion (Backpack)