Talk:Big Brother House (Borehamwood)

descriptions

some flavor, not sure in which form to add it to the article:

You are inside the runs, a series of dimly-lit corridors that surround the studio. Two-way mirrors look out into the house. With the lights out, you can hardly see anything. The building's fire exits have been secured.

You are inside the control room, with monitors and consoles stacked on desks and shelves. The building's fire exits have been secured.

You are inside the offices, a network of corridors, meeting rooms and office spaces. The doors to the street have been secured.

You are inside the Big Brother lounge, a large, wooden-floored room with designer chairs, flock wallpaper and a small kitchen. The doors to the street have been secured.

You are inside the diary room, a blank room with a large, purple chair in the middle.

Note that:

1. the runs are dark buildings.
2. the diary room has no entrance/exit to the streets at all.
3. powering up control room can make some monitors there usefull (like cctv in police stations)

--~~~~ [talk] 00:36, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm confused as to how the Lounge has a door to the street. :/

--Rahrah^{Come join the #party!}17:02, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Power on in control room enabled CCTV

A portable generator has been set up here. It is running. CCTV monitors show the interior of the house, and a large red clock reads '88:88'.

CCTV switches between: the diary room, Bib Brother lounge and the garden --~~~~ [talk] 11:53, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Search

found bottles of beer, mobile phone and a book in the offices. a raido in the runs --~~~~ [talk] 13:33, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Image

Should we include an image, or does the grid suffice?

grid's enough --~~~~ [talk] 20:39, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Hidden location?

It's location is uncertain, and users have been asked to keep it that way. —Hagnat

Asked by who? If it's anyone short of Kevan, I am disinclined to acquiesce to your request.ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 13:24, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

My updating of this article has just been reverted. This wiki is a resource, I consider the removal of factual and sourced information to be in bad faith and will take people to A/VB. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 13:26, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I was just about to say – nice work on the find, and good timing! Unless there has been an explicit request from Kevan to keep the location hidden, I have to agree with you. "Information wants to be free" → it's going to get out, especially now that iWitnesses have been posted. Anyone who wants to keep it hidden, you might as well bow to the inevitable and save yourself the hassle. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 13:30, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I actually went out and found it yesterday afternoon, I was just busy until then. If it hadn't been for Hagnat's "Noez, keeps it sekrit soez i can haz winz!" bullshit I wouldn't have been in a hurry, however I'm violently opposed to censorship. This is now sourced and posted on Barhah and the Philosophe Knight boards just in case. Those iwitnesses are public, and were made so for a reason. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 13:34, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

You're naive to think that your iwitnesses are first that reveal location of the BB house. How do you think i got the coordinates in the first place? --~~~~ [talk] 13:44, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Never claimed to be first, but more public iwits increase everyone's chances. I actually found the house because of you and Hagnat, thanks for that ;) -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 13:46, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Iscariot, i play zombie... the doors to the place are locked and i still didnt got inside. Therefore, i am not participating on the competition... yet. This is not a matter of censorship, its not a matter of a user keeping this info so he can win the prize himself, its rather a case of allowing people to have fun searching for a unique building. If this information is publicy available, most of the fun of searching for it vanishes. Its like telling the end of suspense/drama movie to someone who just bought a ticket for it. The wiki might be a resource, but it must be a resource thinking on the fun of its users. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^talk 13:57, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Then go put a spoiler warning on the page, oh, wait, you can't because this isn't a work of fiction. People have a month to find a building in a city sized area, you are delusional if you think that's fun for anyone but a cartographer.

"it must be a resource thinking on the fun of its users." - Must it? Would you care to show me the policy, nay, the guidelines, nay the fucking open discussion where this crap was decided? Didn't think you could. Less than 24 hours back in office and already making shit up, colour me shocked and amazed....

Also, don't post here trying to sound all reasonable when you later decided to go onto my talk page and ignore the very simple rules and throw insults around. I may be disagreeable, but I don't try to be disingenuous and hide this fact. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 14:14, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Strange fact: you are here yelling against censorship, when your talk page attempt to censor any kind of discussion between you and anyone on the sysop team. Yay for thee lad. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^talk 14:22, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Different case. I have page ownership. Also I'm not censoring your views, go post your comments on your own talk page if you want, I'm enforcing my 'No Platform' rule. They are different beasts. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 14:29, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Sure they are. And nice sig, asshole. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 14:31, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Would it be possible to remove the blinking of that signature? I have no problem with you revealing the location, but the blinking is a little bit annoying. - User:Whitehouse 14:32, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

After reading AHLG's comment below, it does seem wrong to have it in your signature, couldn't you just remove it now before more people have the location hunt ruined? - User:Whitehouse 16:48, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

We got a Kevan answer here, he doesn't mind either way so it's up to us. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 17:28, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I think that the best thing to do is just leave the coordinates on this page, possibly on the map, but that Iscariot should take it out of his sig so he doesn't ruin the surprise for those who are avoiding the two previous mentioned areas in hopes of enjoying a hunt. - User:Whitehouse 17:56, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Anyone who either watched the show, or has a rudimentary knowledge of Big Brother, can easily find the house. From the show, the clue is to follow the river past a ruined abbey. The river lock is another big clue. Fans of reality TV can look at the current "big map", find the Elstree Studios Building, and then put 2 and 2 together. It's a shame that two people have to stoop to a revert war, and childish activity, when a consensus can easily be reached. All this fuss over a DVD competition?

For those of you arguing over a 4 week window to find the House........ Flares, feeding groans, and the zerg. Bear in mind all zombie players get Lurching Gait for free, which means an easy jog to the House. Between that and the clues to location, it should have been easy. The problem now is that it may provoke a big rush of people to the house, leaving the rest of the game area very boring. It's a pity people couldn't consider that BEFORE inciting a headlong rush to the House. Such is life. --Informant 16:13, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Revealing the location here is fine, it's just rather poor to spam the coordinates all over the wiki. If people don't want the location spoiled they shouldn't have looked at this page. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 16:42, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I agree with your comment in regard to spam, and now that we have "official word" I must also agree that people not wanting to be spoiled shouldn't be searching for the information. I hope this resolves the matter for those involved. -- Informant 20:37, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that a compromise can be reached here. First off, its sort of trivial whether the house's location is revealed or not; it's a month-long contest for a DVD (as cool as it is, its just a DVD), that any given user has very little chance of winning (as there will likely be thousands of entries by the time the contest ends.) Why this has inspired such controversy escapes me. That said, I can see the merits of both sides. It is true that many players won't care about the "hunting for the house" aspect of the contest, and will simply want to enter the contest right away. However, it is also true that other players (myself included) enjoy that aspect of the game, and don't want to have the location of the house spoiled for them. I actually think Iscarot's straw-man argument of "Then go put a spoiler warning on the page" would be the best option. This way, we avoid censorship, as those seeking the info can find it. It would also allow those hoping not to be spoiled to avoid the information, if they so choose. As for Iscarot's sig, I would suggest that he change it as it can be construed as forcing info on people who may not want to see it. For the record this is merely a suggestion, not censorship. I have no control over Iscarot's sig, but to appeal to him via what seems to me to be a reasonable request. Also, kudos on at least removing the blinking from it. I think that actually goes a long way. Anyway, the only part that would be tricky to compromise in such a manner, would be the main map of Borehamwood, and map of the suburb the big brother house is in. I'm not really sure how that ought to be handled. To sum this up, the point that I'm trying to make is that I think its very important that the wiki have something close to a consistent policy regarding disclosure of the BB house's location, and not get bogged down in back and forth re-edits. I think the only way this is going to happen is if people on both sides of this agree to be reasonable and bend a little. --Zarneverfike 05:37, 3 November 2008 (UTC)