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:::: I'll admit that certain parts are funny, namely the "Marylin Manson made us do it" piece. I'm all for satire, as I said in my first post, I just think that some topics are not to be joked about, at least not this publically. I posted not out of a need for attention, (though I'm sure we all agree that neither of us will prove that one way or another, due to it being a my word against yours situation) but only because I felt that I had to say something. I can't imagine how someone who's survived an event such as Columbine would feel upon reading this page. I agree that your wiki is designed to attract attention, and does an amazing job, in fact. However, I can't imagine an adult stooping to that level. I assumed you were all repressed teenagers, hopefully who didn't know any better. You pointed out that many of you are well educated, which implies that you do know better. Education is not a shield to hide behind, saying that working for a BSC in Psychology, or being a historian makes you suddenly immune to any criticism. I'm sure the nurse of your group has seen post traumatic stress before, and he or she should feel ashamed for possibly dredging up memories of some horrific event. | :::: I'll admit that certain parts are funny, namely the "Marylin Manson made us do it" piece. I'm all for satire, as I said in my first post, I just think that some topics are not to be joked about, at least not this publically. I posted not out of a need for attention, (though I'm sure we all agree that neither of us will prove that one way or another, due to it being a my word against yours situation) but only because I felt that I had to say something. I can't imagine how someone who's survived an event such as Columbine would feel upon reading this page. I agree that your wiki is designed to attract attention, and does an amazing job, in fact. However, I can't imagine an adult stooping to that level. I assumed you were all repressed teenagers, hopefully who didn't know any better. You pointed out that many of you are well educated, which implies that you do know better. Education is not a shield to hide behind, saying that working for a BSC in Psychology, or being a historian makes you suddenly immune to any criticism. I'm sure the nurse of your group has seen post traumatic stress before, and he or she should feel ashamed for possibly dredging up memories of some horrific event. | ||
I do not see a desperate belief to slap you into the 'dumb teenager' category. It'd be nicer, cleaner, and would certainly help me sleep at night. Most teens are fools and are easy to dismiss because of their lack of experience, but that fact that people who have gone to college and actually finished with degrees would have the audacity and ignorance to post something so potentially harmful worries me. Also, the fact that adults would stoop to the level of pre-adolescents when it suits them, cracking jokes about anal penetration with a baseball bat and parental rape, then switch and suddenly pull a holier-than-thou-you're-a-fool routine, makes me wonder about the validity of the information you've posted. I doubt you'd lie, not so exactally at least, so that, too, is a foregone conclusion, because neither of us can prove that your job is working at a hospital or studying history, not burger-flipping. | ::::I do not see a desperate belief to slap you into the 'dumb teenager' category. It'd be nicer, cleaner, and would certainly help me sleep at night. Most teens are fools and are easy to dismiss because of their lack of experience, but that fact that people who have gone to college and actually finished with degrees would have the audacity and ignorance to post something so potentially harmful worries me. Also, the fact that adults would stoop to the level of pre-adolescents when it suits them, cracking jokes about anal penetration with a baseball bat and parental rape, then switch and suddenly pull a holier-than-thou-you're-a-fool routine, makes me wonder about the validity of the information you've posted. I doubt you'd lie, not so exactally at least, so that, too, is a foregone conclusion, because neither of us can prove that your job is working at a hospital or studying history, not burger-flipping. | ||
Before I go any further, I'd like to say that I do not matter on the global scale, like most people. Hell, even on a statewide scale, most of us don't matter. It was a nice trick to get in your jibes about my political affiliation, the scanning of my groups, my so-called lack of wit, and any sexual fantasies, while still making it look like you took the high ground. | ::::Before I go any further, I'd like to say that I do not matter on the global scale, like most people. Hell, even on a statewide scale, most of us don't matter. It was a nice trick to get in your jibes about my political affiliation, the scanning of my groups, my so-called lack of wit, and any sexual fantasies, while still making it look like you took the high ground. | ||
Your final paragraph makes me wonder the sincerity of your earlier statements of not feeling inadequate. It seems like you're still hanging on the fact that people are noticing you, and that you're still hoping that others will comment to, in your own words, make you matter. You say it's all existing in the game. If that were true, I'd have absolutely no qualms about it. The fact is, the impact of these wiki pages and the message that it sends, about how someone's experience with watching friends and teachers die, or a family member's loss of a loved one, is considered comical to you, that reaches far beyond the game. | ::::Your final paragraph makes me wonder the sincerity of your earlier statements of not feeling inadequate. It seems like you're still hanging on the fact that people are noticing you, and that you're still hoping that others will comment to, in your own words, make you matter. You say it's all existing in the game. If that were true, I'd have absolutely no qualms about it. The fact is, the impact of these wiki pages and the message that it sends, about how someone's experience with watching friends and teachers die, or a family member's loss of a loved one, is considered comical to you, that reaches far beyond the game. | ||
I ask you to remember your impact, intentional or not. There is very real pain caused by this. [[User:Steven Faer]] | ::::I don't recall getting 'bent out of shape' as you say. My posts are not make out of anger, but out of concern for anyone innocent who might happen across this. Personally, I'm not bothered by this page. I think it's in poor taste, sure, but I won't loose sleep over it. I am merely showing concern for people who have had to deal with a Columbine situation. To put it into perspective, imagine that someone kills your parents, then later someone makes a website for people who want to roleplay parent killing? They slap pictures of the the killers standing in your home, your parents cowering on the floor in front of them. They tack on a little word bubble using chatspeak with some humurous phrase. Now, when you complain, they tell you to shrug it off because they couldn't give a 'tenth of a fuck' what you think. You can't tell me that you wouldn't be hurt by that. If the parents don't get to you, for those of you with kids, substitute them into there. Could you 'see the satire' in your dead children? Neither can the parents of the victims of the Columbine Killings. | ||
::::I ask you to remember your impact, intentional or not. There is very real pain caused by this. [[User:Steven Faer]] | |||
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COMMENTSI'm DisgustedNormally, I'm all for black humor. I've always been able to see the humor in dark places. But some situations are not to be joked about. This group is completely uncalled for and offensive to many. The survivors of that event have been severely traumatized, and the fact that you would make light of a situation as twisted and sick as Columbine is disgusting. It's not cool, or edgy, or even remotely funny. Imagine if a family member of a deceased student were to stumble across this page? It's been almost ten years, but some wounds remain raw for decades. People lost their children, because two mentally unstable kids decided that they had the right to take the lives of innocents. Your ignorance is appalling, and I pray that you realize how pathetic and sickening this is. I don't know your situation, I don't know you, but the fact that you find this funny and are willing to base a group off of the Columbine massacre suggusts that you are in need of mental evaluation and therapy. I realize you're trying to make a joke and that you don't want people to take you seriously. The fact is, many people do take this seriously, and are deeply offended. Just because you are not affected by it does not mean that you should treat everyone (especially people who have had a personal experience with such a topic) like they are following the same train of thought as you are. On a side note, one which I'm sure will solely be focused on so you don't have to address the above statement: I don't know the two people that Carrion Jack is talking about, or even Jack himself, but he's asking you politely to remove two people who've been through enough trauma already. If you are as emotionally immune as you constantly brag, you wouldn't be as angry as you appear to be at them attacking you. I'm not excusing their actions, don't get me wrong. It just seems odd that people who seem so fed up with the world, and so pissed off at nearly everyone, are venting their frustration on the Internet, where there is no threat of retaliation for their actions. Some might call it cowardly. Almost as cowardly as using automatic weapons on unarmed innocents. But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night. And, if you're going to respond, at least have the maturity to address all of what I'm saying, not just something you can snap off a one-liner including the word 'fuck'.
In MemoriamIt was on this date in 1999 that Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold shot and killed the following people at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado: Cassie Bernall - Steven Curnow - Corey DePooter - Kelly Fleming - Matthew Kechter - Daniel Mauser - Daniel Rohrbough - William "Dave" Sanders - Rachel Joy Scott - Isaiah Shoels - John Tomlin - Lauren Townsend - Kyle Velasquez They then took their own lives. The image shown on the front page is from the security camera footage captured that day of Eric and Dylan. Lest we forget; this was a real event that affected real lives. A Salam a Lakum Rocky Ford 05:24, 21 April 2008 (BST) Rest in peace *tyrin sign*--Jay dark one 16:02, 21 April 2008 (BST)
Just a Thought"While those of you who have never experienced this sort of thing in real life might find this funny, it is extremely painful to those of us who have"... I have experienced this sorta thing in fact much more horrible things than what you described and i still find this funny, so before you say something like that make sure you speak for everyone. -- trifle195
Traumatic ExperiencesI would like to point out that while those of you who have never experienced this sort of thing in real life might find this funny, it is extremely painful to those of us who have. Two of the guys in my group (ortallem and tobias rowan) knew Andrew Ellmaker, were even in the same class as him. Guess what he did. He killed his social worker with a knife and was was proceeding to cut up the body with a CHAINSAW when his mother got home. He promptly attacked her with it. She got away. He was only charged with aggravated assault (not premeditated murder, which is what it technically should have been since he tried to dispose of the body). So while you guys might find this sort of shit funny, you are causing some of my members real pain with your juvenile antics. They had to go to counseling after the incident. I would appreciate it if you would remove them from your KOS list. It's really immature to prey on those who have survived such tragedies. -- Carrion Jack
I only just...... read your talk page, it is fucking awesome, some very funny content. And the retards that come here to complain are most hilarious. I would like to congratulate you on that. Also I wish the guy with the commi-whore party, i wish you the best of luck with that. -- Skyvia
Fuck you... You fucking emos. How the fuck can you take that Columbine shooting this fucking lightly? Did Marlyn Manson tell you to fucking do this? Or is this to make up for your own, secret shortcomings? In closing, fuck you, emo motherfuckers. May you all burn in the same dregion of hell as Dylan and Eric. No, you'd probably get all orgasmic with them on your first day. Fuck you, -- Comrade 47
You FuckersMy name is lee hong. you guys are fucking retards. i will track you down annd kick the shit out of each of you guys. so you retards can find me easier I'm with the The malton vietcong. i am also in the stansbury area. i hope you retards can find me. lee hong
Marine3303Just letting you know, Marine3303 seems to be using the Nicks Arms in Roftwood [68-58] as a safehouse. The only reason I'm letting you know this is because my clan is planning on using it as a HQ (I'm preparing it ahead of time), and Marine3303 has oversprayed our grafiti a few times. I would kill him myself, but he's on your KOS, so I figured one of you would want the honour. (And because getting into the good books of a Pking group is never a bad idea.) --Shinysheep
Congratulations!madwench just went KOS on the Rogues Gallery... I think? Spotted it when I was checking peoples bounty's and thought it'd be interesting. Also, I'm back in S. Blythville if you guys want to go mall hunting etc. --RRAshley Valentine
You Guys...... are fucking whores and sit if you ever cross the cpm we will totally fuck you up emo junkie. so go fuck marilyn manson and his hiv positive dog you satan fuckers. and another thing go fuck yourself -- Rober e killer
Your Group...... is in very bad taste and generally gay. Well that is about it, have a nice day -- Airborne88T|Z.Quiz|PSS
Alliance RequestHello We Are The_Great_Taboo We Are Pkers That Wanna Destroy Maltons innocent Survivors and cause havoc cause we can anyway im Rotten Zerg You may Of Heard Of Me In Yagoton. Im The Leader Of This Group Please post back for an alliance --Rotten zerg 10:36, 19 July 2008 (BST)
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HmmmWell, I registered at your forum, but by the time it get approved this may be a moot point. Since your last turn * Jacobean Mugatu+ killed Gore Corper. (4 hours and 13 minutes ago) * Jacobean Mugatu+ said "Gore Corper was a Kill on Sight member of the PKer group Columbine Kids." (4 hours and 13 minutes ago) * Jacobean Mugatu+ said "You guys are lucky he didn't get to you." (4 hours and 12 minutes ago) Gee, I feel so safe now knowing he's protecting me. *rolls eyes* The CKs are on our DNR list for the duration of the School Shooting Tour, but I cannot abide stupid kills. If Gore Corper will stand at Nicols Avenue, a revive will be forthcoming in short order. --Violet Begonia Dean MCM MOB 23:35, 20 August 2008 (BST) AllianceLooking for allies. I'm still building my group, but whatever. It will be a PKer group that supports the HAT policy, and that goes against the DEM. If your interested, here's a link to the group page: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/The_Skorpions
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