UDWiki talk:Administration/Policy Discussion/VB FFO Commenting

Discuss please.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 23:21, 17 July 2009 (BST)

Although i disagree with what this template repersents, i would make the last line more forceful --DOWN WITH THE 'CRATS!!! | Join Nod!!! 23:23, 17 July 2009 (BST)

There should language in there which makes an exception for someone contributing a link to relevant info or volunteering information that would be useful or pertinent to the case.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 00:51, 18 July 2009 (BST)

There's no reason that has to be on the main page, it's not like talk page = totally ignored. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 00:52, 18 July 2009 (BST)

"all discussion must use the talk page for further discussion." A mite confusing, maybe "all discussion must be on the (through / on) the talk page." --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 00:52, 18 July 2009 (BST)

Allow all users one comment, all follow-ups to said comment (including SysOp comments) to be placed on the Talk Page with a link provided to on the Main.--

| T | BALLS! | 01:02 18 July 2009(BST)

Wouldn't it just be easier for all non-involved users to use the talk page to begin with? One comment per user still allows "free-for-all" commenting on the main page. Ten users, ten comments, a lot of text that could be on the talk page instead of the main page. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 01:10, 18 July 2009 (BST)

Allowing the one comment with links on the Main gives a better impression of open conversation vs. the appearance of stifling free expression by sweeping it all to the Talk Page. I'm not saying that that is the purpose of sending all non SysOp comments to the Talk Page, but a compromise like this might help lessen the impression of elitism that can sometimes be inferred by the "SysOp only" system that is being suggested here. --

| T | BALLS! | 01:17 18 July 2009(BST)

Two things: One, the page is primarily meant to be a means for users to report vandalism and then for Sysops to rule on them. Discussion (e.g. comments) should be for the discussion page - the talk page. This segways into Two: the talk page is not ignored or invisible and moving stuff there is not "stifling free expression" or "sweeping it under the rug." It's the discussion page - it exists for a reason, why not use it for the exact reason it exists? --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 01:49, 18 July 2009 (BST)

Well, if it's going to be changed to "must", I suggest allowing users who do bring up points/input on the talk page to add a simple comment to the case on the A/VB page, something like "More on talk page (link to relevant section)". Only one such comment per case. Cuts down on text on the actual case, and gives an indication that there is more to be found on the talk page, thus helping with the visibility problem. - User:Whitehouse 01:40, 18 July 2009 (BST)

I'd be for maybe editing the {{vndl}} to include a "[[Adminstration_talk:Vandal Banning#<Name>|Discussion on this case]]" or having the same link at the top of the case or somewhere otherwise visible. If people - and I don't mean sysops or otherwise, I mean all users - ignore the talk page, it's because they're doing something they probably shouldn't do. Pay attention to talk pages please~ --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 01:49, 18 July 2009 (BST)

Actually Whitehouse, you can, and people already do that. :). Everyone else just wants to post ont he main page becuz day tink it's kool becuz the ops sed dey sholdnt. :/ --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 02:36, 18 July 2009 (BST)