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Hi DDR! I've noticed a little of your work, do you think you could help me make a neat little name sig? Not very good at anything other than BBCode. (I'm good at stealing and altering code though, as yooou have seen!) --- [[Image:Umbrella_Corp.gif|14px]] '''[[User:Alex Yamata|Alex Yamata]]''' 04:18, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi DDR! I've noticed a little of your work, do you think you could help me make a neat little name sig? Not very good at anything other than BBCode. (I'm good at stealing and altering code though, as yooou have seen!) --- [[Image:Umbrella_Corp.gif|14px]] '''[[User:Alex Yamata|Alex Yamata]]''' 04:18, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
:I can't speak to DDR's willingness, but if you just need some base code.  You can view DDR's sig [[User:DanceDanceRevolution/a|here]] just click edit or view source to see the code.  Everyone's sig either links to a page with the code or shows their actual code, both good for stealing.  [[Help:Signatures|This]] would probably also be helpful.  --<sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 14:13, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
:I can't speak to DDR's willingness, but if you just need some base code.  You can view DDR's sig [[User:DanceDanceRevolution/a|here]] just click edit or view source to see the code.  Everyone's sig either links to a page with the code or shows their actual code, both good for stealing.  [[Help:Signatures|This]] would probably also be helpful.  --<sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 14:13, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
:Hey Alex. I'm happy to see you have an interest in nice signatures and I like that you seem to like stuff I've done. Sadly, the year I spent away from UDWiki (the only wiki I use) has left me pretty illiterate with coding and design, so I fear I wouldn't be able to help you all that much. I also don't have much time as the little moments I spend on UDWiki I prefer to spend working on [[UDWiki:Open Discussion/New Dangermap|an important dangermap update]] for the community. I do recommend you have a look at any of my older signatures (the ones linked from my main page and here: [[User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig|Signature]] <sup><small>[[User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig2|2]] [[User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3|3]] [[User:DanceDanceRevolution/l|L]] [[User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4|4]] [[User:DanceDanceRevolution/a|A]]</small></sup>) or look at my very old sandbox that I used to conceive some nice signatures and play around (and also steal designs, as you mentioned). Sorry I couldn't help any more, but please let me know if you have any questions or would like any advice. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 14:00, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

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You've got the basics, thinks there's a VB case as well. What else you want to know? --Rosslessness 18:44, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

holy shit

you're still around? Linkthewindow  Talk  13:17, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

The same goes for Ross, Boxy and to a lesser extent Aichon as well. Linkthewindow  Talk  13:19, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Funny thing, when you look purely at the number of years we've each been around, we've all been here for the majority of the game's life:
  • August 2009 for me
  • October 2007 for Ross
  • August 2007 for DDR
  • May 2006 for Boxy
And yet, despite that we've all been around for the majority of the game's life, I think we'd all agree (myself included), that there's a big difference in terms of how long it feels like people have been around between the people who were there before the game peaked (e.g. you, box, Ross, DDR, etc.) and the people who came by sometime after that (e.g. me). Aichon 15:36, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
I miss the elders of the wiki. The Grims and the Vantars of my youth... --Rosslessness 19:09, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, it's weird isn't it? I joined not long before the game started to enter into decline (mid-2008, decline mid-2009 roughly,) and it always seemed that I'd missed out on the best years of the game.
What's stranger is that we're coming up to the one decade anniversary of UD next year, and my character's been in the game for seven of those ten years (so what you said, basically.) Linkthewindow  Talk  08:52, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Yep! Only occasionally since not much happens on the wiki. Nice to see you still around too. A ZOMBIE ANT 07:30, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, it's pretty quiet these days. Less then 50 changes a day, and virtually all of them are people updating suburbs and danger reports. Still, it's nice to see that this place is still serving it's purpose. Linkthewindow  Talk  08:52, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Pretty much. The game is dying so quickly, quite sad really. I'm thinking maybe a change in the suburb danger report descriptions might be warranted. A ZOMBIE ANT 09:49, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Yeah. I've swung past a couple of the forums of the groups I used to be a part of - virtually all of them are dead (although the MCM is still going in game, which is very nice to see.) It's sad to see, despite the (many) problems with the game and the wiki (okay, mostly the wiki,) I generally enjoyed my time here. Linkthewindow  Talk  09:28, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

You're all fucking old and I'm putting you in a home. Nothing to be done! 03:47, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Double holy fucks!--User:Sexualharrison14:23, 25 May 2014
It's funny how all the old guys come out of the woodwork suddenly. Linkthewindow  Talk  09:28, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Truly inactive psysop changes

In a nutshell, activity levels would be based on timestamps instead of edit count. We could have a few different levels of activity based on the timestamp. Let's say Active, Less Active, Inactive and Hiatus. Sysops notified on talk page if activity level is changed. To address the issue of crat inactivity, mandate that all crats maintain Active status. If a Less Active sysop is promoted to crat, they have one week to update timestamp, or vote is restarted without them as candidate. ~Vsig.png 06:18, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Could it be automated? A ZOMBIE ANT 06:30, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps. I had the same thought and tried to think of ways. Templates would be involved, so possibly. Edit: Yes it is possible, I've thought of a way. Or at least semi-automated. I think it might be better if it wasn't fully automated, since sysops would be notified of status changes. This could be a crat duty. ~Vsig.png 06:37, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Sure, I meant the status but not the notification thing obviously. I think they key to its appeal would be the ability for it to be automated and not need maintenance. Upkeep isn't exactly one of the things this wiki prides itself on ;) A ZOMBIE ANT 07:28, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Let's keep it simple. If a 'crat fails to make an edit for a month, anyone can ask them on their talk page if they're still around. Failure to reply in a week is grounds for putting their seat up for grabs. It preserves the community's authority in removing inactive 'crats, while giving us more flexibility in dealing with them by not forcing us to immediately put their seat up. A change like this is also more in line with the inactive sysops policy. It also means that if the community doesn't care that a 'crat is inactive, they can stay inactive. If the community does care, then the 'crat will need to be active or else they'll get demoted. Either way, the policy would react to the community. Aichon 07:01, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
That would work as well, but without the added benefit of a page which shows at a galnce which sysops are active, less active, elegible for crat, etc. Even having such a page on the wiki gives sysops some administrative purpose for editing, which is benefit for anyone that believes that an occasional edit is an indication of activity. ~Vsig.png 07:22, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
I do like simplicity so I like Aichon's suggestion (der) but I don't mind the idea of a status of activity for each op. What numbers are you thinking for each status 'bracket'? A ZOMBIE ANT 07:27, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Arbitrarily, I'd say within 2 months for the first bracket, within 4 months for the second, after that, sysop is considered inactive and has a week before demotion. Hiatus could extend the second bracket to up to 6 months. ~Vsig.png 07:36, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
I'm gonna be totally honest, it's a shame we just didn't have more sysops. For me, that's always going to be the solution, get more sysops, reduce the activity quota so it literally only serves to stop totally inactive ops from being crat (I'm going to start calling it a "bob case" from now on) and I'm sure we'd be fine. There's gotta be a way to 'simulate' having more sysops through policy. There has to be a way. A ZOMBIE ANT 07:53, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
If only there was a page that had some at-a-glance info about sysop activity... :P Aichon 07:37, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Also, I still think the whole system, and I basically mean EVERYTHING, needs a rewrite at some point in simpler terms. Aichon 07:41, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
^ This is something I'd really like to see. If not already obvious from my stupidity about most wiki policies that aren't common-sensical, I sometimes feel like the current policies could use simplification (but it might be because I'm an EFL speaker.) There are barriers to entry I see when it comes to sysops -- some people are active enough on the wiki, but don't really bother with the sysop nominations due to: 1) lack of interest in performing the duties of a sysop, 2) lack of knowledge on how to handle the MediaWiki platform, and 3) potential ambiguities with WIKI LAW.
I'd also like to see Administration/Sysop Check as an automated, or at least, semi-automated process -- unless it'd put too much strain on the servers. Could be handy for those of us who are too scared to prod a psysop to check if they're still alive and kicking. --Si vis pacem, para bellum. (stalk · KT · FoD · UT) 11:21, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

RE: "lol- the best"

Can I at least know what that message meant? --- Umbrella Corp.gif Alex Yamata 21:23, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

DDR is referring to the fact that Umbrella has been one of the most contested names, with plenty of drama surrounding it. See the Umbrella page for some of them. -- Spiderzed 22:03, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
I was a part of the original Umbrella Corp, and have read up on a lot of that drama. I joined I think early 2012 and then went inactive for about two years, so I wasn't a part of it. But because of that drama, that group has diminished and so had its likeness from the community. My group will have some roleplay, but I'm going to avoid drama at all costs. To be technical, I have no real relation to Umbrella Corp or its activities. I tried making suggestions to get them active but I kept getting rejected. So there you go... --- Umbrella Corp.gif Alex Yamata 22:08, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi Alex. I didn't mean to be rude or offensive in the slightest, I think the idea of Hyper Umbrella to be interesting and should make a good group to witness in Malton. However, simply by virtue of it being called "Hyper X" where X is a group that has, as Spiderzed said, a very aggressively contested names in the past (and the funny battles that ensued) I just thought it was quite funny to see a group called Hyper Umbrella come to fruition. A ZOMBIE ANT 02:00, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
Ooooh! I get it! I'm slow but it can't be helped. Hehe! That's silly DDR! --- Umbrella Corp.gif Alex Yamata 04:13, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Requeeeest?

Hi DDR! I've noticed a little of your work, do you think you could help me make a neat little name sig? Not very good at anything other than BBCode. (I'm good at stealing and altering code though, as yooou have seen!) --- Umbrella Corp.gif Alex Yamata 04:18, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

I can't speak to DDR's willingness, but if you just need some base code. You can view DDR's sig here just click edit or view source to see the code. Everyone's sig either links to a page with the code or shows their actual code, both good for stealing. This would probably also be helpful. --K 14:13, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
Hey Alex. I'm happy to see you have an interest in nice signatures and I like that you seem to like stuff I've done. Sadly, the year I spent away from UDWiki (the only wiki I use) has left me pretty illiterate with coding and design, so I fear I wouldn't be able to help you all that much. I also don't have much time as the little moments I spend on UDWiki I prefer to spend working on an important dangermap update for the community. I do recommend you have a look at any of my older signatures (the ones linked from my main page and here: Signature 2 3 L 4 A) or look at my very old sandbox that I used to conceive some nice signatures and play around (and also steal designs, as you mentioned). Sorry I couldn't help any more, but please let me know if you have any questions or would like any advice. A ZOMBIE ANT 14:00, 5 July 2014 (UTC)