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Adding Suburb pages to Mobile Phone Mast bot?

Hi Rooster,

I was looking into ways to add the current status of a suburb's Phone Mast to that suburb's information box. I started work on a template to provide a nice text description of the current status after the mast listing, but then ran up against the difficulty of extracting the current status from your list of masts by just having the suburb name, without availability of the parser functions.

What I'm wondering is if you might be willing to add functionality to your bot to update the suburb pages in the same way your Necrotech building bot does. The result could either be a human-friendly text status (my original idea) eg:

Phone Mast: Smith Towers [55, 16] Unpowered

My existing templates of Template:MalTelMastStatusText_active, Template:MalTelMastStatusText_inactive etc. could help with that.

However, coloring it in the same way you do the Necrotech buildings might work too.

For suburbs where the building name isn't linked, perhaps it could be added. All of this would just use the existing mast_coordinates line in the infobox.

What do you think? :) --Zhani 19:18, 29 August 2008 (BST)

I must re-learn wiki markup. Will attempt to consider awesomeness of your idea in the future, where I will almost certainly ask somebody with more skill to have a go at it anyway. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 21:42, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

External Military Report Bot working?

Is the external military report bot being ran? If so it could make it a lot easier for me to update the reports page, but it says that it hasen't been ran in over a month. Kevyn Wu 06:45, 2 September 2008 (BST)

Will resurrect bot soon, providing it will still run without destroying anything. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 21:42, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Ackland Mall in the MIC

From what I can tell, someone tried to combine a phone mast template with the MallStatus template (because Ackland has Havercroft's phone mast). Whatever they tried didn't work, but I don't know enough about templates to fix it. Can you provide assistance? The page in question is here. --Pedentic 21:51, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm not even going to look at the page, it's probably been fixed/worked around. If for some bizarre it hasn't, maybe then I'll have a peek. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 21:42, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
It seems to have been fixed/worked around, like you've assumed. Cheers! --Pedentic 17:58, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Ninja Mode?

Still alive in your box? If you're done with Urbandead and the bots, I wouldn't mind running them.. 22:15, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Am back from a webcomic binge to instead do some wiki-binging. Will attempt to fix/update and distribute the bots to some extent. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 21:42, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
I take it I'd need to create separate accounts for them, If I were to run them? Also, what about having bots edit a page when run to let other instances of the same bot know not to interfere? 04:46, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
My initial thoughts were keeping the current bots accounts, and logging the related wiki-user's account somewhere. (EG: The Update Record page that I currently used would also contain the signature of whoever ran it last) I was also thinking of a page that dealt with 'interference' by having a variable along the lines of 'InstanceRunning=True/False' and probably another page for the version of the bot (so older versions don't destroy things), whether it's allowed to run at all (for when I find the wiki-destroying error) and the last time of it's running (no need to run most of these more than once a day, really) -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 12:29, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Welcome Back

Good to see you! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:36, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Ah! The edit-conflict was unexpected! You're WAY too fast on the ball. Thanks for the welcome though :) -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 21:42, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Thats us sysops for you! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:56, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Sysop? Oooo, congrats!. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 21:59, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Have you not heard about the failed coup? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:08, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
I have been back a grand total of 20 minutes, I'm still working on determining if anybody has changed anything that might make my bots explode the wiki. I have had a chance to catch up on the latest over-dramatic nonsense this site spews out. So, explain away! -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 22:12, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Mod Conspiracy --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:12, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Or UDWiki talk:Administration/Misconduct/Archive/Grim s/200809 I don't think anythings been done to the danger reports since you've left. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:14, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
I'll have to sift through it when I have a proper chunk of free time. Anyway, while it's nice the danger reports haven't changed, I expected progress! Oh well, in keeping with the lack of progress theme, the first error I found was a case of a deleted user line. That piece of poor design plagues everything! I'll risk a manual run once I've fixed that and also the MPM page a bit. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 22:20, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

disambig

You're stuffing up the links on the locations blocks (at least the towers ones) -- boxy talkteh rulz 01:04 25 January 2009 (BST)

Yeah, I caught it after bout 10 seconds into that grouping, working on manual fixes now. Odd circumstances I wasn't expecting with the links linking to a disambig page, to the tower's location on that disambig page (which the bot was locking onto) which in turn linked to the actual building's page! What was the point in setting it up like that? Weird. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 01:09, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
I did it. It's so that if you click on the link on the 9block template, you get taken to the actual location you want on the grouped location page (when all the locations info was on the Tollyton Towers page) -- boxy talkteh rulz 01:15 25 January 2009 (BST)
Yes, I've encountered that before, though usually they're not marked as disambiguation pages thus allowing me to not care. I'll keep an eye out for any others, thanks for the heads up. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 01:17, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
BTW, it would probably be an idea to register a wiki account dedicated to your bot. If something goes wrong, it makes it easier to deal with, in that it can be temporarily banned by any sysop that notices, and it's edits are all on the one contributions page for easy rollback (rather than mixed in with your other edits) -- boxy talkteh rulz 01:22 25 January 2009 (BST)
Would've done had I thought this was going to be such a job at the time, I was rather expecting to make a few hundred edits tops and have finished. Currently I've got less than 1900 pages left to check, of which maybe 20% (based on average so far) will need changing. In comparison to the far-too-many edits I've made with it so far, I'll just let these 400 run out and end there. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 02:02, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

The bot doesn't actually unmerge any of the locations does it? So, that means we still have to go back and do that anyway, right? If we still have to go back over what the bot has done it seems pointless to run the bot.--– Nubis NWO 17:10, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

It's very useful for cleaning up after they've been unmerged! -- boxy talkteh rulz 10:34 27 January 2009 (BST)
No, it won't unmerge the collection pages, but it wasn't designed to. It will disambiguate any locationblock template (Most of the edits have been from pages dedicated to single locations) and that was my original goal. (On course to reduce links to disambiguation pages to around 1700 from whatever ungodly number it was) The mass unmerging can be done with another bot (shouldn't be too difficult either), one thing at a time. :) -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 17:33, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
I wouldn't count on grouped locations pages being predictable enough -- boxy talkteh rulz 10:34 27 January 2009 (BST)

Ok, I'm lost, why should the order of disambiguation and unmerging matter? Do you mean if the unmerging then creates an ambiguous link? I can have the bot do a quick lookup on the Locations List for that. I also don't see that the collection pages should be that much of a problem, it can just rip the location template from the page and stick a copy on a new page. Minor nuisances like descriptive text (what little there usually is) is just a quick copy paste job between two textboxes before I hit the 'Save Page' button. The bot does the tedious work, cuts down on page calls and saves time. I don't get bored, and could turn those pages around in probably ten seconds each. Sure, there's the overhead time of setting this up, but the number of pages means that it probably works out in my favour timewise to do it that way, and certainly works out in my favour in terms of not making me terminally bored. But if you still rather I didn't, just say. I wouldn't want to make things worse, the manual changing of those pages would occur in due course, after all.

Anyway, I'll probably set up a generic bot account for any mass edits from now on, tis a good idea Boxy. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 18:38, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Mall Status Map

The only real problem with your updated version is it's a bit 'busy' on the eyes, it not as easy to read at a casual glance as the old one, although it does contain much needed extra information.

I did have the idea of combining the suburb feature from the Omnimap into the Mall Status Map, allowing people to see the current status of the suburbs using the colour code and being able to see the names of the suburbs with a roll over. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 14:36, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it works better without the names and images. I was hesitant to remove them since it was more of an established page. The rollover provides you with the mall name anyway. We'll see whether other people think it could do with de-cluttering too. I'm inclined to agree with you on that point.
As far as the Omnimap bit goes, the whole reason for the suburb system there (as opposed to using the danger map underneath, like the StatusMap system) was because it needed to show SIM data too. It was just a clever workaround, and probably not needed on things like the MSM or NT Status Map etc, unless you mean something else? -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 15:05, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
I've just had a go at this, but my coding fails me. I'm thinking a map similar to the old MSM, using Image:Mall-status-map.png and the old status system, but with the addition of a SIM suburb border overlay. This will allow the MSM to display the relative danger levels as well (though I think the colouring will need to be tweaked to make it easier to read). This also means that rolling over a suburb on the MSM will give you its name and a clickable link to its page and thereby reduce the visual clutter on the current MSM. Am making sense? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 18:47, 2 February 2009 (UTC)