User talk:Zyckde

Project Dentonside Discussion hey Zyckde, great work on dentonside. Heres a list of all the pages in the area that currently have some kind of backstory. Might help you come up with coherent themes or new ideas. Theres still about 90 blocks with no details at all. Good work. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 10:28, 2 March 2010 (UTC) Thanks, I am will try to work on the list. --Zyckde 21:46, 2 March 2010 (UTC) Project Dentonside To Do List Burges Towers --> 'History added' The Colbourne Arms --> Some background has been written, eventhough it does not connect with the rest of stories in the area. Images missing Wasteland 95,52 Lax Cinema Ludlow Auto Repair Kidner Park Warehouse 98,53 Wasteland 99,53 Dentonside Police Department Warehouse 97,51 Horsey Square Fire Station Factory 94,54 Simplicius General Hospital Edkins Auto Repair Moorse Cinema Elvins Auto Repair The Silcock Building --> History has been written previously Warehouse 92,56 The Alcock Building --> History has been written previously Durban Library St. Hilary's Church The Bransom Building The Rye Arms Location Page Building Toolkit Lots of pre uploaded Images, that may be of help. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 09:49, 3 March 2010 (UTC) Warning Please do not edit the pages of groups you are not a member of on this wiki. Continuing this behaviour may lead to your editing privileges being revoked. Cyberbob  Talk  12:30, 5 March 2010 (UTC) To clarify. Other Groups pages are their property. You can put whatever you want on pages you create, or indeed post such accusations on their talk page, but not their main page. Likewise User:Zyckde is your page, but we all talk to you on User talk:Zyckde. You dig? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:08, 5 March 2010 (UTC) Ok, I am sorry. It won't happen again. I will address the deceitful claims on the talk-page of said group. --zyckde 13:13, 5 March 2010 (UTC) thanks. have a look as UDWiki:Administration for a list of pages about how the wiki works. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:39, 5 March 2010 (UTC) LURCS/recruit Orphaned Page The following page(s) were orphaned, meaning they weren't linked from any other page on UDWiki. For house-keeping's sake, we are adding the link onto the relevant talk page. If you don't want the pages anymore just post them on the Deletions Page. You aren't required to do anything, but we'd appreciate if it you kept the link on any one of your pages. Please note that the link provided below will not remove the page from Orphaned Pages, so you'll still need to manually make a link for us. Thank you. --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:19, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Solidarity mossad is disbanded. i really lost interest. but I do love killing nazis.. so i will point my Pker at them.. thanks for for info.----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 03:00, 12 March 2010 (UTC) I found him! I found him! He's in Shapr Boulevard Police Dept, Dartside. --Martino 11:05, 16 March 2010 (UTC) Thanks for telling me. ;) --Cornholioo 13:23, 16 March 2010 (UTC) Run bwoi, waste your AP fleeing, PKing nazi scum. Go hide in the ruins amongst the rats. --zyckde 13:28, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Question by Cornhoolio

Sorry about that question, I didn't know where to post it. But I should place it here (I guess). This was my post:

Let me ask you one question. You declared war on the NSU. You have said you would kill any NSU member who enters Krinks. Then you and others were killed/wounded by the NSU, and now you are calling us 'PK', and our actions 'murder' and 'shameful actions'. Until there. But I have asked you many times before; why are you doing this? If you are so tough to tell all of Malton this stuff, then at least give a reaction on this. --Cornholioo

I am surprised at your question. My group is a trade union. We try to organize workers to fight for their position inside workplaces and in society at large.

Fascism was built as a movement to break the organic structures of the working class. Historically, the Italian movement was built by breaking strikes and physically destroying the social structure of the working class. An example is the destroying of the community centers of the labour movement in the 1920s.

The second example is Germany in the nineteen thirties. There, the oldest, most rooted and organized labour movement in Europe was physically destroyed by the German National Socialist Party.

The extermination of European Jewry by the nazi party was initially targeting Jewish working class leaders, before the Jewish elite and middle class was exterminated as well.

Since the outbreak of the zombie epedemic, the workers of Malton have been put in a difficult position. Through shock doctrine bosses and warlords try to gain control. Only a combative labour movement can prevent this from happening. The ideology of fascism, the often inherent racism, and also the conservative ideas about the relation between sexes are all ideas that threaten the unity of the combative union activists.

But beside these "labour" reasons, for many people the history of the most methodical genocide in history up to the zombie outbreak are not a laughing matter. Therefor the kind of Third Reich glorification you engage in is denounced on a massive scale.

You mention you are Dutch. The February Strike in 1941 shows how trade unions and labour activists are naturally at the core of the opposition to fascism. Workers fighting for a common cause against oppression and exploitation see that their white, black, or muslim colleagues are not the problem. They see that these people are allies, and that the superstitious believes preached by groups such as the nazi's do not serve their interest in the fight against political leaders and managers.

I have no patience to discuss this further with you. You can ask a question if you think you need to. I do not need an explanation of your politics.

War is how politics are continued if talking does not work. Therefore, the talking of guns is good enough for me.

zyckde 22:40, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry for my weak question. My question was not really why you have declared war on the NSU, but why you are calling us 'PK' and our actions 'murder' and 'shamefull actions'. I don't wish to discuss our ideals publicly, here on wiki, either. I would in E-Mail, though. But I have made an unclear question, so excuse me for that.

So what I mean is why you are calling us like this. Our groups hate each others. But no matter how bad they do, I at least expect you to have some honor. --Cornholioo

No honor? We're defending the Power Plant against scum. Unhonored would be to cheat, we are not cheating according to the rules of the game. What you are doing is shameful. The killing of three civilians is murder. It is surprising that you don't think of yourself as a PKer. You enter a place, shoot someone, shout something nasty and leave again. That is exactly the kind of behavior I expect from PKers. You write that our groups hate each other. Therefore you knew that by claiming the upkeep of the power plant was your work (while it has been the bulwark of various left wing groups) would create tension.

--zyckde 08:40, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

I didn't say it was our work, I said it was one of our goals. I can even add to our wiki page that other survivor groups help us with this, if that makes you feel better. So don't make this sound like the war is my own fault. You have also said yourself that 'the present animosity is purely ideological'. That is the casus belli. Not the goals (or 'claims', in your words) of the NSU, and you know that.

Anyway, what would you do yourself if I walked into Krinks right now? You would shoot me. Isn't that PKing as well then? Is a soldier that kills an enemy soldier a murderer? No. We are at war and I shot and killed the enemy. So am I a murderer? No. I think its a pretty honorless way to try to gain support in this conflict by calling me a PK or murderer. I wouldn't call you like that either when you killed one of us. White regards, --Cornholioo 12:21, 14 March 2010 (UTC).

Today a survivor wearing a SS uniform has been killed nearby Krinks. I will not shed one tear. In all your communications you have been pushing this "war" issue, and the fact we 'declared' it. You do this because it would justify your actions. We issued a warning, making clear that fascist activism was unacceptable in an area we maintain. You were very eager to jump into an orgy of blood and violence by defining it as a declaration of war. Fine, call it war. For us it is self defense against an assailant, a PKer. If a deranged man kills a union leader inside a factory, do you think the Geneva convention applies? Of course not. The man will be tried before a court of law. In the absence of civil law we administer justice ourselves, alas.

For us, armed self defense is a serious matter. The Outbreak has forced it upon us. We are a trade union, not a bloodthirsty military apparatus. I must admit that we have no moral objection against using force against zombies, scabs, and other threats, such as yourselves.

You seem to object to the fact that we rally other survivors in a mass movement against fascism. I understand you don't like it. However, we are not going to let our tactics be defined by 'rules of engagement' drummed up by an opponent.

Our goal in this conflict is clear: keeping the power stations and their surrounding area free of fascist activism. This clear and obtainable goal is met every day you and your group can not openly be active in our midst. Every day the Tolman and Krinks are zombie and nazi-free is a victory on our side.

What is your goal? What are your victories? Spreading death and discomfort? Great stuff, but there is not so much damage you can do using military force. Abandon your anti-working class politics, resign your position as member of the NSU, and you are welcome to help maintain the power plant. If working in the power plant is only a thinly worn disguise to sow divisions within the working class, than stick with your group tag, and we'll make sure you can never have a quiet day anywhere near that site. --zyckde 22:28, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

PS- The WWSIS is not communist, we are a trade union and have no political allegiance.

I have no idea who the national socialist you are talking about is. If he was wearing our group tag, it's not legimate, since every member of the NSU is alive according to my data. On LURCS radio I've heard his name was something like 'Ernie'. I have never heard of this name, either. Probably you've killed a feral national socialist, not a NSU member.

Truth be told, you declared war, which means it's justified for us to defend ourselves. What you're doing right now is declaring a war and then complaining when you get one. Even if we declared the war ourselves and then opened fire on you, that wouldn't be PKing, since we are at war at that point. Let alone how things are right now; you were the agressor, you declared war, you said you would shoot us on entering Krinks, and now answer my question: what would you have done if someone told you this? Would you just have walked into the Krinks and let yourself get shot? You asked for this yourself. Thus, since there is a war going on, I can not, IN NO WAY, a be PK. No matter how bad you hate us, no matter what the cause of war is! You are trying to defend an undefendable argument. You wouldn't call yourself a PK either if you killed me. So why do you call me one when I kill you? That means that you are allowed to kill me, but I'm not allowed to kill you, in other words. For myself, I would never call one of my enemies a PK. I expect them to kill me, that is why they are called an 'enemy'. So if they do so, that isn't PKing. I have no problems with you contacting other groups, or even ferals, to take up arms against the NSU. The way you're doing it is what I don't like. You know people hate PKers, so to gain more support, you call me one. If they don't turn hostile to us for being nationalist socialists, then they will for us being PKs. That's what you are thinking, which is cowardly, shamefull and honorless. You hoped I wouldn't find out, but what you didn't know is that I was listening to your radio as well. Now you are here, talking to me, trying to defend the undefendable argument. You are wrong. Of course you can continue calling me a PK if you like, but if you do so then the NSU will think you have no honor. That we are at war, whoever declared, for whatever reason, ok, untill there. But I at least expect you to fight in an honorable way, like we national socialist do ourselves. We are civilized people, but you, so it seems, have no honor. I suggest you make a broadcast on LURCS radio where you apologize for calling us PKs, then the NSU will forgive you and we will continue the war in an honorable way.

To answer your other questions; as you can read on our wiki page, the NSU goals are to keep Krinks and Tolman safe against zombies, PKs and GKs. At our founding we were hostile towards none pro-survivor group and willing to ally any group in achieving our goals. At this point, if the WWSIS had offered us an alliance, we most likely would have accepted. This goes for any of the currently hostile groups with the exception of Gibsonton Squatters. The reason we would not form an alliance with Gibsonton Squatters is because they are not active in either of the power stations, so an alliance would be useless. For this reason I have also discluded them from the battle of krinks. It hurts us things could not be this way and others have declared war upon us. This means that Krinks and Tolman power stations must be free of our enemies before we can get to work. This works means, as I said, keeping the plants free from zombies, PKs and GKs. We have not set up any other policies (such as barricading) yet. This was and is our goal, the present survivor groups in the plant had nothing to do with this. You don't have to believe us, but in fact when I pointed Tolman and Krinks our goals, I had barely heard of the WWSIS and didn't hear about LURCS at all. I didn't know anything about the ideals of the WWSIS, apart from keeping Krinks in survivor hands. I had not heard of any of our other current enemies either, apart from CPM and UG, but I didn't know they were inside the Krinks. I thought the CPM was in Dakerstown as said on their wiki page. I did know they made safety standards for the Krinks, though, but I didn't disagree with them a lot. Furthermore, I did not have contact with any of the current enemies of the NSU, as well. I did not send a radio broadcast, I did not call with them, I did not talk to them, I did not post on their forums, I did not post on their wikis, I did not talk to them in instant messaging and I did not have contact with them in any other way. So what I'm trying to point out is that the only reason why I marked keeping the power stations free from zombies, PKs and GKs, was to guarantee their safety. It didn't have anything to do with the inhabitants of the power stations. Of course I have no way to prove this, so you don't have to believe this; that's up to you.

And to your call to give up my ideals, I say only this: Meine Ehre heiSSt Treue. --Cornholioo

All these groups are hostile because you are a neonazi. Don't play innocent saying that you were open to ally yourself to other survivors. You are a neonazi, you hate any multi-cultural, left wing, Jewish, or multi-ethnic groups. People don't despise you because we rightly unmasked you as a PKer; they look down on you because you adore one of the greatest symbols of genocide in Europe's recent history. I was indeed hoping you would be listening to LURCS, so you could hear what it means to defend a power plant in the midst of a apocalypse. Go play somewhere else. But don't expect to be greeted with open arms anywhere in Malton as long as you carry that group tag. Ihre Ehre ist Sheisse --zyckde 10:43, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

PS- Maybe you should check what groups have the {{Fascism}} template on their page, it is an awful lot. It is kinda funny you thought you wouldn't run into trouble with all those groups carrying that banner. Go follow the link: [1] and scroll down to see the full list of those openly hostile to you.

As I said: The NSU was hostile to none pro survivor group at its founding and willing to ally any group in achieving their goals. It feels good to me you are not able to give a further reaction concerning the content of my post, thus admit you have no honor. Meine Ehre heiSSt Treue, Treue und Ehre zum Tod, niemals aufgeben, niemals reue, das haben wir uns eins geschworn. --Cornholioo 12:46, 15 March (UTC)

I did answer you, you did not read carefully. I call you a PKer and a nazi because you are both. As you might have seen in my profile, i am a civilian. You lost, you can not conquer Krinks. Your defeat has made you upset, so you start referring to codes of war and terms of engagement. The wiki is not the united nations, my group did not sign the Geneva Convention. Admit to yourself: it is not because i supposedly did not follow childish notions of chivalry that you suffered a moral and military defeat. Nowhere in the wiki or the rules of the game is there anything about how groups should settle conflicts in-game. There are no codes of war. Honor is in defending the humanity of survivors surrounded by an overwhelming zombie outbreak. For you honor is to wade in the blood of those who will not bow down to you racist death cult. Ihre dummen Sprüche überzeugen Menschen gegen dich zu kämpfen. --zyckde 13:33, 15 March 2010 (UTC)