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== API help ==
Bob Moncrief sent me your way. I'm looking at building a bot to prowl the Danger Reports and mark them as "unknown" after several months. I was thinking of using the API to pull page data and parse it to determine when it was last signed. It would also do the same for the MPMs every 5 days and mark them as 'old' or 'unknown' as needed. Bob didn't want to just give me the link to the API, and I don't blame him, but to talk with you about this. {{unsigned|Reimannsum|19:37, 5 January 2019 (UTC)}}
:Sorry, but bots were never my area. From what I know, there isn’t a link to give you. Once you actually build a bot, a ‘crat can assign it bot permissions, but otherwise there’s not much more to it than Googling around to see how to actually build it. If [[User:Revenant|Revenant]] is around, he can probably point you in the direction of folks who have experience making bots. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 23:41, 5 January 2019 (UTC)


== "I'm Tandy and I live with my husband and our 3 children termites in house jacksonville " ==
Sounds like one hell of story. Stay strong, Tandy. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 06:59, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
:How can she stay strong when she needs to feed her children? That house is going to come down on her head. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 13:14, 15 May 2018 (UTC)


==Thanks==
I only just realised you added the suburb mini-map to my user subpage about redoing the Main Page. Thanks so much for that! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 00:01, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
:Hah, yeah, I had to look up what you were talking about since I couldn't remember the details. Apparently I had some time to kill that day.
:Hopefully it proves helpful in the future. I eventually lost steam on my attempt at redoing the main page when I realized that the ideas we had weren't technically possible (no way to modify the CSS across all themes so that we could make drop-down menus work for everyone), but I'd love to see you get a redesign off the ground and put into place, since it needs an update and you've already had some good ideas for how to improve it. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:28, 7 January 2020 (UTC)


== nothing personal bub ==
just don't have respect for someone who wont respect another person's talk page.
if there's a way to delete it permanently or lock it (like The Jack's page was) or what have you that would be ideal.. but I can't find it so.. yeah.
I just happen to find the whole idea of the wiki message system to be incredibly pretentious.. as though every post on my talk page contains something I should find important or indeed, even want to read. I dont need some shitty wiki site telling me what I should value, hell I dont even like wikis to begin with (exercises in arrogant folk's self-important bullshit, all of them).. and for that matter I don't need you telling me what's in my best interest. so yeah, I guess it is a little personal. try not to be so pompous, or imperious like that preteen retard radicalwhig (not calling names, just making observations) [[User:Auralius|Auralius]] 14:36, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
:We don't lock user talk pages except in response to specific, ongoing acts of vandalism, and even then, only temporarily, since locking talk pages is—as I mentioned in one of our previous conversations on my talk page—contrary to the operation of a wiki. We actually never locked The Jack's talk page, just the group page.
:Regarding the idea you posted on [[A/VB]] that there should be a vandalism case against me—presumably for editing your talk page—we have a lengthy case history of ruling that the simple act of editing a talk page is not vandalism; it's using the wiki as intended. The one exception is if you were to take me to [[AA|Arbitration]]. If you did so, we'd pick a neutral arbitrator, we'd make our cases, and we'd receive a ruling. Assuming you made your case well enough to receive a ruling in your favor you might receive something akin to a restraining order against me, at which point any subsequent edits I made to your page could be viewed as an act of vandalism.
:That said, Arbitration rulings can't overrule wiki policy, such as the policies governing official notices or my role as a sysop. As such, while an Arbitration ruling could keep me from randomly spamming your talk page with personal insults, it would't keep me from serving you with official notices...which—with the possible exception of the courtesy notice I gave you last week that there was a vandalism case against you—is literally all I've posted ever since [[User:Aichon/Archive_2017#The_message_left_behind_by_the_person_who_wiped_this_page|I told you last December]] that I'd avoid editing your talk page unless necessary. You're not an enjoyable person to interact with, so I take no pleasure in posting to your talk page as it is. But hey, if you think that an Arbitration ruling is worth the hassle of going through the bureaucratic red tape on the off-chance that you can get a ruling that will keep me from doing something I'm not doing, that's your call. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 18:41, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
::It's okay Chonny, I think aurrie is still cranky that his boyfriend's alts got shot out of the game. Again. {{User:RadicalWhig/sig}}15:11, 26 May 2018 (UTC)


== Your template coding still manages to troll years later ==
[[Soldiers of Confusedmen|This is comedy gold.]] --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 22:27, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:Hah! I haven’t played the game in years, but this made my day. I know there are a few other hidden gems scattered about, but I had forgotten about this one. Glad to see it paying dividends years later. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 00:30, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::Someone played the long *con* here... --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 22:46, 4 March 2021 (UTC)


== I Heard You Guys Like Rules ==
Aichon you are beautiful. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 11:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
After being quite annoyed I figured might as well lash out at someone, so here goes:
:Just having a little fun. ;) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 13:39, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:Gardenator This user clearly has blinking text in their signature.
http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Blinking_Text_Is_Annoying Which according to this policy is against the rules.
We can't have any epilecptics sitting and crashing in front of their pc's so I suggest someone tells Gardenator to make a plain/simple signature to prevent anyone getting triggered.
I didn't know where to put this, so I came here with it - as you can see you are about to give me some sort of trouble too, but for that im well prepared (as was I for the horde of people coming to fuck me over :) )
Cheers! [[User:Sister Mary|Sister Mary]] ([[User talk:Sister Mary|talk]]) 00:58, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
:Yeah...that rainbow of text known as the Goonsig has been thoroughly tested against the [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Signature_Policy|signature policy]], with dozens of cases related to it dating back to 2011. I ''might'' be able to be convinced that it’s against policy, but it’d be for reasons other than what you’re citing since that text isn’t blinking. In the context of the Web, “blinking” refers specifically to text that appears and disappears (i.e. what the old HTML Blink tag used to do), and that sig isn’t an example of it.
:If you’d like to pursue it further though, that policy page lays out the (annoyingly cumbersome) process for doing so. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 02:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
:: Well im not here to give YOU a hard time over what IM going "through" - but that being sad I have no problem in shooting with what ammo I have available.
::Im not going to engage this further and I will add a deletion template for my profile, make a new one and edit like that since it seems like the way im going to contribute here :) [[User:Sister Mary|Sister Mary]] ([[User talk:Sister Mary|talk]]) 02:16, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
:::{{WIKILAW}} lol. --{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 02:33, 4 June 2018 (UTC)




== FA help ==
== The years fly by...==
Hey, I'm wondering if you could take a quick look at my cycling of [[Monroeville]] in [[UDWiki:Featured Articles]] as successful.  
Good to see you pop back in every now and then. Had a peek at your backloggery - just added you on Steam. Hope you're well! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 01:27, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
:I was actually reminded to poke in because I just switched to using some note taking software (Obsidian) that can operate a bit like a personal wiki. And I’m doing great! Life’s been crazy, but in good ways. Another kid, a different (better) job, and parents retiring five minutes away have meant a lot of changes.
:Accepted on Steam, though I’m only marginally more active on Steam than here, so it’s nothing personal if it takes me a few months to notice a chat message. I actually still check Backloggery on a daily basis, even though I rarely engage with anyone socially.
:You been holding down the fort? Took a quick glance around and it seemed like there aren’t any projects that could use quick advice. Even the drama has been fairly low recently from what I’ve seen. And what’re you up to these days off-wiki anyway? {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 02:23, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
::Very low, very dormant. Just the same ol' wiki ticking along nowadays. Obviously it's a shame, but in some ways it's welcome. Parents retiring near you sounds like a great change, especially when kids are involved. What's new since we last chatted? Hmm. I got a mortgage and a ring, so that's new. No kids though. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 09:19, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
:::Oh, ''just'' that? ;P Congratulations and well done! And no rush on the kids. We also enjoyed having a few years before the kids arrived, which gave us time to do some projects and traveling that would've been 10x harder with the kids. We love them and wouldn't change a thing, but renovating the kitchen or taking a transatlantic flight would be a non-starter for us these days. How's home ownership so far? Hopefully you've been able to enjoy the newfound freedom that comes from home ownership without having to deal with the headaches that can arise. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:44, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
HELLO SIR LONG TIME NICE TO SEE YOU. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 14:37, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
:SALUTATIONS IT HAS BEEN TOO LONG I RECIPROCATE YOUR SENTIMENT. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:30, 24 February 2023 (UTC)


Essentially, I have no idea how these things are cycled on the main page over time, so I don't know if there's any more I need to do. Thanks. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 12:11, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
:I added it to [[Template:SimpleFACycle]]. Looks like you got everything else. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 12:24, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
::Thanks Bob. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 12:28, 4 July 2018 (UTC)


==    ==
penus {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:04, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
:About twenty years back a grandparent told me a story about how they were talking with their very young granddaughter. The city of Miami came up at some point in one of their conversations. The granddaughter interrupted her grandfather. “Grandad”, she said, “It’s not your Ami, it’s my Ami.” Kids are selfish, yo.
:Anyway, your misspelling reminded me of that story for some reason. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 02:03, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
::i'm kids. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:26, 10 September 2023 (UTC)


==It's okay Chonny==
I, too, would have rolled back my A/RE comment about bob 4 dictator 4 lyfe. You clearly would make the superior wikitator. <small>especially if it would make you stay ;_;</small> {{User:RadicalWhig/sig}}02:41, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
:He only demonstrates infinite power when he feels like it! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 03:51, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
:Not my first time doing it, and it may not be the last, but it always seems to involve Bob in some way. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 04:23, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
::[[File:emot-argh.gif]] :P {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 12:28, 10 July 2018 (UTC)


 
==In-game zombie names==
==A/VB==
Hello Aichon! There's a script of yours I would really like to use that I just can't seem to get working. I have had another player test too with the same problem. It's UD Same Character Highlighter. Sometimes with your scripts it's just a matter of changing the old references to http to https, but that didn't save me this time. Would be very handy to get Same Character Highlighter working for my group as we're zombies and it's a nightmare tracking who said what in-game as it just says "a zombie said". A full zombie name displayer would be even better, but I don't think there's a script for that? Thanks! {{unsigned|Ragno|10:59, 16 November 2023 (UTC)}}
Just FYI: Wrecked Bawls isn't a wiki alt of Audio's. {{User:Stelar/sig}} 21:47, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
:Sorry for the super-slow response. It's been...a hectic few weeks. It's been a bit since I've been active in-game. Is Dumbwit or some other service that captures a snapshot of the game still around? If so, can you link me to a recent one that shows something like what you're talking about where a group of zombies is talking back and forth? Testing UD Same Character Highlighter was always tough because those messages disappear if you refresh the page, so I used to have a handful of iWits or Dumbwits around to help with testing it.
:How do you figure? I'd rather not get into the details, but I really don't see how the logs could be clearer on this one. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:10, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
:No promises on a timely fix for this (i.e. it may never happen, so don't get your hopes up too much), but if time allows in the next few weeks I'll see what I can figure out. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 16:39, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
::I have voice chatted with both Bawls and Audio at the same time before playing a game online. {{User:Stelar/sig}} 22:14, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
::No worries on response time, thanks very much for giving it a look. Here's a couple of ispy links that you can try it on.
:::so they told you. Wow, what an elaborate attempt at sockpuppetry on Audios JISORs part. --{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 22:25, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
:: https://ispy.dxavier.net/1459863366.html https://ispy.dxavier.net/1641562398.html {{unsigned|Ragno|22:15, 06 December 2023 (UTC)}}
::::Told me what? That they are two different people entirely? Because that is the truth. {{User:Stelar/sig}} 22:28, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
:::Good news - Avarice77 fixed it for me. Thanks! https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/497161-ud-underline-related-profile-links {{unsigned|Ragno|14:56, 17 June 2024 (UTC)}}
:::::Oh yeah, I'm not saying you are lying. --{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 22:31, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
::::Awesome. Yeah, I've had a reminder poking me about this every week for the last few months, but it had been so long that I forgot what my reminder was even about. >_< I'm very glad you were able to get it sorted out. I'll update that entry with a link to his code. Thanks! {{User:Aichon/Signature}}
:::If you're willing to confirm that you voice chatted with both of them ''prior to'' the ban, I'd take that as sufficient evidence that they're different people. In chatting with Audio on Discord, he provided an explanation for why they would share so many details in the logs. None of it was provable, but with your word to back it up, I'd be fine with unbanning Wrecked Bawls. I'm heading out the door, so feel free to de-list Bawls and remove his ban. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:48, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
::::Yes, of course it was before the ban. {{User:Stelar/sig}} 22:56, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
 
Erm, if (gleaning from the vague references to sysop IP data here) they often share an IP address, and there's been no confirmation that the Wrecked Bawls on this wiki is the same person Stelar was conversing with on Discord, and there's any indication that AudioAttack (who has a history of making shitloads of fleshed out but often discarded alt wiki accounts) ''could'' have control of, or have originally created, the account, then the account surely shouldn't be unbanned. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/tcs}} 02:13, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
:Actually, perhaps scratch that position, I think you're right Stelar, it's best to be safe rather than sorry when it comes to user experience. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/tcs}} 03:58, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
::That’s also why I was curious about the timing of things. Had she chatted with them immediately after the ban, the timing would be a bit too coincidental. Prior, however? Much more believable. That said, some of this confusion was likely avoidable, so I expect that it won’t come up again, but if it does, we’ll cross that bridge then. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 04:08, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Good precedent for how to avoid bans on a sock puppet account--{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 05:26, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
:In theory, but it would be immediately suspicious if Bawls started posting during AA's ban. That would trip a ''lot'' of red flags. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/tcs}} 07:04, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
::I predict this will be a problem if Bawls start voting along with JISOR.  I honestly thought that AmericanMary was one his alts.  Or if JISOR ever runs for sysop.--{{User:Gardenator/sig}} 07:12, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
:::Less so for sysop. Even if he ran for sysop, vouches/againsts aren't numerically counted, they are counted in a qualitative way that gives less credence to supporters who may be biased. His conflict of interest would definitely be noted. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/tcs}} 07:59, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 
 
==DDR's sysop bid==
So... it seems we have a decision on our hands. Your thoughts? {{User:Stelar/sig}} 12:42, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 15:50, 17 June 2024

Aichon:Talk
Aichon
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Announcement: I'm no longer active. My talk page is still your best bet to get in touch. Aichon 04:39, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Please be aware of the following guidelines before posting here.

  • New conversations should be started at the bottom using a level two header (e.g. ==Header==). Or with the +
  • I like to keep conversations wherever they start, but if a conversation ends up here, I will keep it here.
  • I will format comments for stylistic reasons, delete comments for whatever reason, and generally do anything else within reason.

Thanks. Aichon

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API help

Bob Moncrief sent me your way. I'm looking at building a bot to prowl the Danger Reports and mark them as "unknown" after several months. I was thinking of using the API to pull page data and parse it to determine when it was last signed. It would also do the same for the MPMs every 5 days and mark them as 'old' or 'unknown' as needed. Bob didn't want to just give me the link to the API, and I don't blame him, but to talk with you about this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Reimannsum (talkcontribs) 19:37, 5 January 2019 (UTC).

Sorry, but bots were never my area. From what I know, there isn’t a link to give you. Once you actually build a bot, a ‘crat can assign it bot permissions, but otherwise there’s not much more to it than Googling around to see how to actually build it. If Revenant is around, he can probably point you in the direction of folks who have experience making bots. Aichon 23:41, 5 January 2019 (UTC)


Thanks

I only just realised you added the suburb mini-map to my user subpage about redoing the Main Page. Thanks so much for that! DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 00:01, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Hah, yeah, I had to look up what you were talking about since I couldn't remember the details. Apparently I had some time to kill that day.
Hopefully it proves helpful in the future. I eventually lost steam on my attempt at redoing the main page when I realized that the ideas we had weren't technically possible (no way to modify the CSS across all themes so that we could make drop-down menus work for everyone), but I'd love to see you get a redesign off the ground and put into place, since it needs an update and you've already had some good ideas for how to improve it. Aichon 21:28, 7 January 2020 (UTC)


Your template coding still manages to troll years later

This is comedy gold. -- Spiderzed 22:27, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Hah! I haven’t played the game in years, but this made my day. I know there are a few other hidden gems scattered about, but I had forgotten about this one. Glad to see it paying dividends years later. Aichon 00:30, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Someone played the long *con* here... -- Spiderzed 22:46, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Aichon you are beautiful. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 11:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Just having a little fun. ;) Aichon 13:39, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


The years fly by...

Good to see you pop back in every now and then. Had a peek at your backloggery - just added you on Steam. Hope you're well! DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 01:27, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

I was actually reminded to poke in because I just switched to using some note taking software (Obsidian) that can operate a bit like a personal wiki. And I’m doing great! Life’s been crazy, but in good ways. Another kid, a different (better) job, and parents retiring five minutes away have meant a lot of changes.
Accepted on Steam, though I’m only marginally more active on Steam than here, so it’s nothing personal if it takes me a few months to notice a chat message. I actually still check Backloggery on a daily basis, even though I rarely engage with anyone socially.
You been holding down the fort? Took a quick glance around and it seemed like there aren’t any projects that could use quick advice. Even the drama has been fairly low recently from what I’ve seen. And what’re you up to these days off-wiki anyway? Aichon 02:23, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Very low, very dormant. Just the same ol' wiki ticking along nowadays. Obviously it's a shame, but in some ways it's welcome. Parents retiring near you sounds like a great change, especially when kids are involved. What's new since we last chatted? Hmm. I got a mortgage and a ring, so that's new. No kids though. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 09:19, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
Oh, just that? ;P Congratulations and well done! And no rush on the kids. We also enjoyed having a few years before the kids arrived, which gave us time to do some projects and traveling that would've been 10x harder with the kids. We love them and wouldn't change a thing, but renovating the kitchen or taking a transatlantic flight would be a non-starter for us these days. How's home ownership so far? Hopefully you've been able to enjoy the newfound freedom that comes from home ownership without having to deal with the headaches that can arise. Aichon 19:44, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

HELLO SIR LONG TIME NICE TO SEE YOU. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 14:37, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

SALUTATIONS IT HAS BEEN TOO LONG I RECIPROCATE YOUR SENTIMENT. Aichon 21:30, 24 February 2023 (UTC)


penus Nothing to be done! 01:04, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

About twenty years back a grandparent told me a story about how they were talking with their very young granddaughter. The city of Miami came up at some point in one of their conversations. The granddaughter interrupted her grandfather. “Grandad”, she said, “It’s not your Ami, it’s my Ami.” Kids are selfish, yo.
Anyway, your misspelling reminded me of that story for some reason. Aichon 02:03, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
i'm kids. Nothing to be done! 01:26, 10 September 2023 (UTC)


In-game zombie names

Hello Aichon! There's a script of yours I would really like to use that I just can't seem to get working. I have had another player test too with the same problem. It's UD Same Character Highlighter. Sometimes with your scripts it's just a matter of changing the old references to http to https, but that didn't save me this time. Would be very handy to get Same Character Highlighter working for my group as we're zombies and it's a nightmare tracking who said what in-game as it just says "a zombie said". A full zombie name displayer would be even better, but I don't think there's a script for that? Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ragno (talkcontribs) 10:59, 16 November 2023 (UTC).

Sorry for the super-slow response. It's been...a hectic few weeks. It's been a bit since I've been active in-game. Is Dumbwit or some other service that captures a snapshot of the game still around? If so, can you link me to a recent one that shows something like what you're talking about where a group of zombies is talking back and forth? Testing UD Same Character Highlighter was always tough because those messages disappear if you refresh the page, so I used to have a handful of iWits or Dumbwits around to help with testing it.
No promises on a timely fix for this (i.e. it may never happen, so don't get your hopes up too much), but if time allows in the next few weeks I'll see what I can figure out. Aichon 16:39, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
No worries on response time, thanks very much for giving it a look. Here's a couple of ispy links that you can try it on.
https://ispy.dxavier.net/1459863366.html https://ispy.dxavier.net/1641562398.html —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ragno (talkcontribs) 22:15, 06 December 2023 (UTC).
Good news - Avarice77 fixed it for me. Thanks! https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/497161-ud-underline-related-profile-links —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ragno (talkcontribs) 14:56, 17 June 2024 (UTC).
Awesome. Yeah, I've had a reminder poking me about this every week for the last few months, but it had been so long that I forgot what my reminder was even about. >_< I'm very glad you were able to get it sorted out. I'll update that entry with a link to his code. Thanks! Aichon