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:::But it shows Rol giving the after kill declaration. --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 21:33, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:::But it shows Rol giving the after kill declaration. --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 21:33, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::::How do you figure that?  Colonel Krauser, and MrEco are both there.  Both are Umbrella Corp employees.  How do we know there wasn't some conversation that went on before and that was his response?  If you want to put up pics of our members dead with you your members standing around saying something, I'm sure we can get plenty of pics like that too.  --[[User:Dark Blue Helmet|<span style="color: DarkBlue">Dark Blue Helmet</span>]] 21:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::::How do you figure that?  Colonel Krauser, and MrEco are both there.  Both are Umbrella Corp employees.  How do we know there wasn't some conversation that went on before and that was his response?  If you want to put up pics of our members dead with you your members standing around saying something, I'm sure we can get plenty of pics like that too.  --[[User:Dark Blue Helmet|<span style="color: DarkBlue">Dark Blue Helmet</span>]] 21:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::I was looking your page over again.  Seems there's something else.  You have me listed up there twice.  In both shots, it shows Tim Beach killing me.  One is from your prospective, the other his from his.  Both were taken in the same building with the same people there.  --[[User:Dark Blue Helmet|<span style="color: DarkBlue">Dark Blue Helmet</span>]] 21:11, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::While I'm at it, the kill on Jack Starks1 (#20 to be exact) still doesn't show who killed him.  It just shows one of your members standing in the same building as his corpse talking.  There are two other UC members there.  "Kilo" kills #25 and #49 are the same kills posted twice.  --[[User:Dark Blue Helmet|<span style="color: DarkBlue">Dark Blue Helmet</span>]] 15:22, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


== Oh noes! ==
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The arbies are clearly biased towards Haliman. Even a blind bitch can see that. --[[User:Skouth|Skouth]] 20:20, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
The arbies are clearly biased towards Haliman. Even a blind bitch can see that. --[[User:Skouth|Skouth]] 20:20, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:You wanna know why it's biased towards him, if at all? It could be the fact that in the past month alone, 4 different Umbrella Corporation members (One that was claimed to not have been a part of the UC, but hell, all we have is your word) have been brought to [[A/VB]] for vandalizing a UBCS page or related charges. If you want people to like you, and want a fair ruling in the future, don't shit peoples opinion of you in the present. Common sense.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> dǝǝɥs </span>]] <small><span style="color: Crimson">oʇ </span> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k-QHA-QAMY <span style="color: DarkGreen">ɯɐds:</span>] [http://partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology/Joining <span style="color: MidnightBlue">sʎɐʍ1ɐ!</span>]</small> 20:56, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:You wanna know why it's biased towards him, if at all? It could be the fact that in the past month alone, 4 different Umbrella Corporation members (One that was claimed to not have been a part of the UC, but hell, all we have is your word) have been brought to [[A/VB]] for vandalizing a UBCS page or related charges. If you want people to like you, and want a fair ruling in the future, don't shit peoples opinion of you in the present. Common sense.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> dǝǝɥs </span>]] <small><span style="color: Crimson">oʇ </span> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k-QHA-QAMY <span style="color: DarkGreen">ɯɐds:</span>] [http://partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology/Joining <span style="color: MidnightBlue">sʎɐʍ1ɐ!</span>]</small> 20:56, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:: Jesus! I have been brought to A/VB, i admit it. But it was before i knew this wiki was SOOO SRS BIZNUZ. You guys should take a chill pill, and walk a bit, all this wiki shit is driving you, uhm... Nerdy? --[[User:Skouth|Skouth]] 21:04, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh no, I'm not saying just you. In fact, those cases I was mentioning had nothing to do with you. And besides, the chill pill would have worn out long before this set of drama. You guys over at UC have been at this for awhile, and I'd like to not get addicted to downers, kk? :) --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> dǝǝɥs </span>]] <small><span style="color: Crimson">oʇ </span> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k-QHA-QAMY <span style="color: DarkGreen">ɯɐds:</span>] [http://partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology/Joining <span style="color: MidnightBlue">sʎɐʍ1ɐ!</span>]</small> 21:11, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Skouth, Rohan, stay off the wiki pages.  You are proving Sheep's point simply by making comments here.  Let the other members deal with it.  --[[User:Dark Blue Helmet|<span style="color: DarkBlue">Dark Blue Helmet</span>]] 21:19, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Skouth, what did i tell you in the shoutbox? --[[User:Colonel Krauser|Colonel Krauser]] 21:29, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/Tarkus/FacePalm.jpg--{{User:Jackson/Sig}} 01:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
:404 not found!!! DAMN YOU KHAN!!!--{{User:Jackson/Sig}} 06:07, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
::http://i40.tinypic.com/29gexx4.jpg--{{User:Jackson/Sig}} 06:08, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 15:22, 30 January 2009

Fail

This article is fail. I don't know where you got the idea we claimed 23 kills but its wrong. More then 40 kills, not counting allied kills. Our Kill/death topic is 9 pages long. Yours combined is 6 pages long. William said no one of the UBCS bothered to report their deaths after a while, so your claims aren't even accurate. --Thadeous Oakley 12:51, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

I got reports that you said 23. Give me access to that topic, and I will count the screenshots. --Haliman - Talk 12:57, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
I will either accept UBCS victory (not on this page, for the actual war) or a stalemate. Decide now, because you guys sure as hell didn't beat us.--Haliman - Talk 20:55, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Well actually, we did beat you. I am not just claiming a number, I count the kills that were reported on that topic since the start of the war. That's about 45 kills. Obviously, you claim other things. That's why this page fails. We both say other things (don't get me wrong, I am sure we won) and you can't prove my claim is incorrect, but I can't do that about your claim either.--Thadeous Oakley 21:56, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
So then bloody agree it's a stalemate!--Haliman - Talk 22:12, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Guess I will make our own page since this is so bloody inaccurate.-Jackson
All I want is an agreement that it was a stalemate. Say yes, and I'll change it. --Haliman - Talk 22:20, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Stale mate!? Are you fucking kidding me!? We slaughtered you! Ohh you are pushing me to make decisions I want to make!-Jackson
Pushing you? Man, make those decisions. Show everyone how immature you are! Lets face it. The only reason we aren't allies is because you are still butt hurt from something that happened 7 MONTHS AGO! Fail. --Haliman - Talk 22:40, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
A week ago you were trying to get me fired for something that happenend 7 MONTHS AGO! Fail.--Thadeous Oakley 22:46, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
You haven't stopped harassing me and everything I do for 7 months, because of something that happened 7 MONTHS AGO! Fail. And asshattery. --Haliman - Talk 22:55, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Oh God, not this again. Can you two just get a restraining order from each other? Look, let's allow both sides to have their own war pages, so that both sides can put up whatever they feel is accurate in THEIR OWN PAGE, and then we can reconcile later, once the peace talks are over. Leon Cane 23:00, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Agreed. I'd get a restraining order, but if Jackie gets high and drunk again, I'm sure he won't be able to understand the meaning of "Restraining Order." Not to mention "Censorship." xD--Haliman - Talk 23:06, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Ugg this fucking wiki drama bullshit. Haliman if I knew where you were I would so just slap you across the face over and over again you hypocritical bastard. My god, this is a waste of time, I should just hop into one of the KC-10's sitting outside and crash it into your home. This is just too fucking ridicules. I'll just stop now, this is only what Haliman wants so he can appear to be a little angel on the wiki. BULLSHIT.-Jackson
Give it up Jackson. You're just causing more problems for everyone. --Haliman - Talk 23:10, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Arbitration?

I strongly recommend you guys take this back to Arbitration. You've been arguing over this page for quite a while now and I personally don't want to see any more Umbrella members end up in VB. As the previous case, I would be willing to stand as arbitrator again, but the decision is entirely up to you guys. Please, seriously think about this. I don't think we need two groups completely banned from the wiki for vandalism. -- Cheese 23:04, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I've been watching this thing go down from Recent Changes and it is going to spiral out of control into a total flame war at the rate things are moving...--SirArgo Talk 23:06, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
What has the UBCS done to vandalize the wiki?--Haliman - Talk 23:06, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Nothing, as far as I know. But you guys should really take it to arbies, because: Vandalism ==> Witty Reply ==> More Vandalism ==> etc. :| --Janus talk 23:10, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
I wanna go to bed :(....--Thadeous Oakley 23:11, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Thad, then go. We can solve this Arby thing tomorrow.--Haliman - Talk 23:11, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Way to afraid about what I might find at the wiki when I wake up. Seriously though, Jackson can we have BoD meeting before we take any other more (unnecessary) steps?--Thadeous Oakley 23:16, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Touche. This page was empty like 10 minutes ago xD--Haliman - Talk 23:17, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
So was Recent Changes. =/ -- Cheese 23:19, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
http://z15.invisionfree.com/Umbrella/index.php?showtopic=1141--Thadeous Oakley 23:20, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
xD. Anyways, what will Arbies solve? It's our group's subpage. They have their own page on the event now (which I won't be sending 1000 alts to vandalize, either.) --Haliman - Talk 23:21, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Where does that link lead? --Haliman - Talk 23:22, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Arbies will let us get a decent unbiased version of the page that will hopefully prevent any problems arising in future over it. And it also might get you guys closer to not tearing lumps out of each other every 5 minutes. -- Cheese 23:26, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Why can't you just start up the request for an Arby case now but pick the arbitrator and actually start it tomorrow. If you put up the bare bones for the case now maybe that would temporarily end all of this and it would also give you all more time to prepare for the full case, which I imagine is going to be VERY long.--SirArgo Talk 23:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
To Cheese: But we aren't relly tearing anything away from them. They are condemning themselves. SirArgo, I will make the case. --Haliman - Talk 23:30, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Made the case. Can someone fix all of my errors? xD --Haliman - Talk 23:34, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Alright then, sounds like a plan!...err, I've just always wanted to say that.--SirArgo Talk 23:35, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

A little discrepancy

You have Lief92 posted in the #3 and #29 spot with the same link. Another would be Aijisuke #9 and #23, Alec Trivosky #28 and #33. Dropkicktothethroat #27 is not a member of Umbrella Corp. He was never accepted into our ranks or onto our forums. Also Storms Shadow #17, is a PKer with Cobra. Again, not a member of Umbrella Corp. I believe that death number next to Umbrella Corp should be changing soon. --Dark Blue Helmet 22:07, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for finding those. Li and I were posting these at the same time and it got unorganized. --Haliman - Talk 22:08, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Should I go through the rest too? I only checked the names that were up there more than once. --Dark Blue Helmet 22:10, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
You can if you want. I won't stop ya. Thanks for the help. --Haliman - Talk 22:22, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
I saw you did edit the two. Keep dropkicktothethroat up there if you want, but how are you going to keep someone else up there who has nothing to do with out group at all? Using the player check will even show that Storms Shadow doesn't even have Umbrella anything in their profile. Want other proof? Stormshadow --Dark Blue Helmet 22:34, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
It's very strange how you knew where to find that... Nonetheless, he's off. --Haliman - Talk 22:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Not that strange seeing how we were helping The Abandoned in a war against both them and zombies a little while ago. --Dark Blue Helmet 23:06, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Alright, understood. Thanks for the help. --Haliman - Talk 23:07, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Alec Trivosky #25 and #30. Skouth #29 was not killed by one of your members. Jack Starks1 #20 doesn't show who killed him. Just shows that his corpse is there. Also, make sure you update the total number at the bottom then. It's bad math to list only 33 people and show a total of 34. --Dark Blue Helmet 20:32, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Skouth got moved to #28. Again, it shows someone else outside of your group that killed him in that pic. Again, I ask for that one to be removed. Just because someone dies doesn't mean that it counts for your group. Thanks. --Dark Blue Helmet 01:43, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

He is an independent resource of ours. --Haliman - Talk 01:47, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Jack Starks1 #20, just shows his dead body laying there. Doesn't show who killed him. --Dark Blue Helmet 17:20, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
But it shows Rol giving the after kill declaration. --Haliman - Talk 21:33, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
How do you figure that? Colonel Krauser, and MrEco are both there. Both are Umbrella Corp employees. How do we know there wasn't some conversation that went on before and that was his response? If you want to put up pics of our members dead with you your members standing around saying something, I'm sure we can get plenty of pics like that too. --Dark Blue Helmet 21:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I was looking your page over again. Seems there's something else. You have me listed up there twice. In both shots, it shows Tim Beach killing me. One is from your prospective, the other his from his. Both were taken in the same building with the same people there. --Dark Blue Helmet 21:11, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
While I'm at it, the kill on Jack Starks1 (#20 to be exact) still doesn't show who killed him. It just shows one of your members standing in the same building as his corpse talking. There are two other UC members there. "Kilo" kills #25 and #49 are the same kills posted twice. --Dark Blue Helmet 15:22, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh noes!

"36 confirmed killz on teh Umbrella Corporation Operation: War Drums page Lord Grand Moron Haliman111! whats r we going to dos? Teh Umbrella Corporation is owningz us wit teh uber pwng skillz. y dun we maek piecez and makes it all betta? teh Umbrella Corporation sez dat dey will forgives us and gives us kookies if we just changez the name to BCS y so hard Lrod Haliman111? y so hard? i iz tired of fighting!"

Seriously Haliman111 it could all be over with if you just change the UBCS to BCS. The war is over and the Haliman111 Files disappear.--Umbrella-White.pngPresident JacksonUmbrella-White.png 03:50, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Some of this confirmed kills where made by your "BOW" alts. ;) There is a difference... How do we know "you" killed them?--LithedarkangelMeth!The Great Meth Man 04:20, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Umm what exactly are you trying to dispute here? Its pictures of our members killing your members. Just because DBH makes accurate disputes with your kills doesn't give you any reason to make such weak accusations. Lets see you had pictures of your men killing NON-Umbrella members and also you have picture of your ALLIES killing member counting them as your own! You also have a picture of one of your members just standing by a dead body and saying something and counting that as proof? Weak! Hey look everyone I am standing by a corpse and saying something witty! La la la! If you want pictures of posers we can make a lot of those too. LOL I even gave you more credit for screen shot kills that you haven't even posted yet. Thought the BCS were on top of their game?! Oops I think another BCS member just died. God damn you guys are a sorry bunch.--Umbrella-White.pngPresident JacksonUmbrella-White.png 04:45, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Just say you were using alts... Even if they are just looking inside buildings they are alts in the same group working for you. About the deaths I will fix it. :) --LithedarkangelMeth!The Great Meth Man 04:49, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Just say we were using alts so some how you can justify your crap POV page about how Umbrella cheats and everyone should cry a river for you guys? I already explained we have a BOW Program with Dual Nature intent which is huge on RPing the BOWs are capable of doing what we tell them just like in the real Resident Evil only ours are more obedient (Edit: BTW you can't even try to say we just invented this out of now where just to kill you, the BOW Program has been around even before 2007, its only that Thadeous and I reinstated the program in 2007 that its been so active.). Besides for you guys to deny you have alts and that you don't use them in this war is just an utter lie we even have them documented, but its not like we bitch about it.--Umbrella-White.pngPresident JacksonUmbrella-White.png 04:54, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Listen Li, you and your Dad can end this war. We don't want to kill you guys, you're alright. Just make the change to BCS and Haliman can have his group and we can finally be allies. Unfortunately for Haliman111 he will never have access to the forum for banning his I.P. address was part of the conviction and it will not be reinstated.--Umbrella-White.pngPresident JacksonUmbrella-White.png 05:01, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm not asking for compassion. I'm not like that at all. I just like the truth. Post the proof if you want. Not that I care. I already knew about the BOW program remember I was there on your forums *rolleyes* At least we don't use alts in "some" program to kill UC. Check our confirmed kills all them by UC except one killing of Skouth made by some Pker we hired.

Edit: What? Why? You don't own the name... We may even name ourselves UCMD... Umbrella Corporation Must Die... But that is irrelevant!--LithedarkangelMeth!The Great Meth Man 05:04, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Li, be smart about--Haliman - Talk 16:06, 15 January 2009 (UTC) this, tonight we used a time attack, and in a combined effort killed how many jackson? Thats what we do, granted everyone who seriously plays UD has alts, lets look at some names in question Haliman - Haliman111 (i have profiles if you wish) William L - Albert W (both played by William L, and both members of UBCS) but were the guys who use our alts right Li...Colonel Krauser 05:08, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
We aren't claiming we own the name 'Umbrella' it is about principle. We will continue to kill you until the change is made. Besides you and your members claim to be so "ashamed" of being an Umbrella subgroup wouldn't it make fucking sense to change it anyway, I don't care if you do change it to The Corporation Must Die as long as you remove Umbrella. Hell be a completely different group all together, oh wait you won't do that because they fail, but hey you have a base of members now so at least if you rez one of Haliman's old groups it'll be on the stats page and you guys can go on with your happy little selves.--Umbrella-White.pngPresident JacksonUmbrella-White.png 05:12, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
To Krauser: Hmm.... interesting. To Jackson: Then why you want us to change it?... Is true everyone has alts but not like the half of your group is constituted by alts?! You don't want us to have Umbrella in our name because you hate Haliman. By the way, I don't mind being killed... As I said feel no regret. --LithedarkangelMeth!The Great Meth Man 05:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I am currently making HUGE report on Umbrella's cheats. Don't worry about that :) --Haliman - Talk 22:20, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Oh is someone calling the WAAAMBULANCE? Can't keep your board updated on how many times we've killed you? Uh oh I can here it coming WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! LOL! Oh no did Lithedarkangel's alt kill another Umbrella member!? FUCKING HYPOCRITES!--Umbrella-White.pngPresident JacksonUmbrella-White.png 22:37, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Li, you're using an alt? --Haliman - Talk 22:41, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Apparently they have proof. If not I don't care what you chat about. --LithedarkangelMeth!The Great Meth Man 23:40, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I have proof Haliman is running 2 profiles both in UBCS both active, you should remember there Haliman, your own words, if you use another character to scout locations its the same thing, so sending Haliman to find me, and then killing me 2 days later....nice try. Also I have proof Albert W and William L are both played by William L. Both in the same group, fighting for the same things. But you have proof were cheating. nice try there bud Colonel Krauser 05:38, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Scout? Haliman has always been there. So you killed my alt. Wooptyfuckingdoo. --Haliman - Talk 16:06, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
So far, Krauser has the proof you are alt-abusing. Have you one to, say, "counter-attack"? --Skouth 19:28, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Now, now theres no need for the language im only stating my point. The point is, if your alt is supposed to be not in use, he would have automatically been hidden after 5 days, he wouldn't have been sitting there to get killed by me. You yourself stated that character is no longer in use yet i manage to stumble across him. Therefore your character couldn't have been inactive as you stated. Oh and i have 2 senior members of yours talking about creating alts for the purpose of attacking random civilians, and i have William L confessing Albert W is his alt and also a member of UBCS. i thought you guys were one player per group.... --Colonel Krauser 19:32, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I've had it with these motherfucking UBCS on this motherfucking wiki! Seriously take the advice and do the right thing. Drop Umbrella from your name then we wont be mistaken for being affiliated simple as that. You can still be enemies if you want but Jackson (in his omnipitence and mik of human kindness) has offered an alliance for a simple name change. If i was you i would jump at such an offer.--Rohanzap 19:47, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm not trying to be a pain in the arse, but.. what did you make an Arby case for, if you keep arguing here? --Janus talk 19:53, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


I'm tired of your motherfucking in-game bullshit on my mother fucking wiki. Seriously. Settle your shit at Arbies, stop your stupidity here. This is a community resource, not a boxing ring. Get the fuck out.

Jesus that felt good.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 19:57, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

The arbies are clearly biased towards Haliman. Even a blind bitch can see that. --Skouth 20:20, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

You wanna know why it's biased towards him, if at all? It could be the fact that in the past month alone, 4 different Umbrella Corporation members (One that was claimed to not have been a part of the UC, but hell, all we have is your word) have been brought to A/VB for vandalizing a UBCS page or related charges. If you want people to like you, and want a fair ruling in the future, don't shit peoples opinion of you in the present. Common sense.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 20:56, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Jesus! I have been brought to A/VB, i admit it. But it was before i knew this wiki was SOOO SRS BIZNUZ. You guys should take a chill pill, and walk a bit, all this wiki shit is driving you, uhm... Nerdy? --Skouth 21:04, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Oh no, I'm not saying just you. In fact, those cases I was mentioning had nothing to do with you. And besides, the chill pill would have worn out long before this set of drama. You guys over at UC have been at this for awhile, and I'd like to not get addicted to downers, kk? :) -- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 21:11, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Skouth, Rohan, stay off the wiki pages. You are proving Sheep's point simply by making comments here. Let the other members deal with it. --Dark Blue Helmet 21:19, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Skouth, what did i tell you in the shoutbox? --Colonel Krauser 21:29, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/Tarkus/FacePalm.jpg--Umbrella-White.pngPresident JacksonUmbrella-White.png 01:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

404 not found!!! DAMN YOU KHAN!!!--Umbrella-White.pngPresident JacksonUmbrella-White.png 06:07, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
http://i40.tinypic.com/29gexx4.jpg--Umbrella-White.pngPresident JacksonUmbrella-White.png 06:08, 17 January 2009 (UTC)