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Question, actually. Are you guys announcing yourself as the MPD or as the DEA?
- We announce ourselves as the Malton DEA, and then start shooting people. --Grim s 13:43, 9 Feb 2006 (GMT)
- Okay, as long as it's the DEA that's cool by me.--Torvus 01:39, 10 Feb 2006 (GMT)
- Even if we are shooting you? --Grim s 17:11, 14 Feb 2006 (GMT)
- Who says I wouldn't shoot back? --Torvus 00:19, 1 March 2006 (GMT)
- That would be assaulting a federal officer, and a capital crime. --Jorm 00:57, 1 March 2006 (GMT)
- Ah, but that could also be construed as self-defense. And since the MPD enforces the law just as much as the DEA, well...
- Federal law supersedes local jurisdictions. If anything, the MPD should be helping us. That MPD officers might oppose Federal agents carrying out legitimate search and seizures of contraband material simply indicates that corruption is rife in the MPD, and therefore may become a concern of this task force at some point in the future. ;) Petrosjko 02:42, 2 March 2006 (GMT)
- Actually, as Malton is located in the UK and the DEA is a US organization, you have no jurisdiction and your actions are entirely illegal and can legitimately be opposed by the MPD. :-p Tomoko 13:34, 2 March 2006 (GMT)
- (OOC) Not necessarily; Kevan has stated that he hasn't said exactly *where* it is. Anyways: only in the USA will you find Gun Stores inside of Malls.--Jorm 18:00, 2 March 2006 (GMT)
- (OOC) Actually... despite the gun stores, many naming and spelling conventions are more in line with an English town than an American one, and although I don't know the details, I remember hearing that a comment from Kevan on time zones also leans towards that. The general player consensus because of this is of a UK town with some unusual US stylings--the gun stores are probably to add to the Zombie Film atmosphere--rather than a true US town.
- (OOC) Yeah, but when have little matters like jurisdiction ever impeded the US federal government anyway? ;) Petrosjko 03:37, 5 March 2006 (GMT)
- (OOC) Actually... despite the gun stores, many naming and spelling conventions are more in line with an English town than an American one, and although I don't know the details, I remember hearing that a comment from Kevan on time zones also leans towards that. The general player consensus because of this is of a UK town with some unusual US stylings--the gun stores are probably to add to the Zombie Film atmosphere--rather than a true US town.
- (OOC) Not necessarily; Kevan has stated that he hasn't said exactly *where* it is. Anyways: only in the USA will you find Gun Stores inside of Malls.--Jorm 18:00, 2 March 2006 (GMT)
- Actually, as Malton is located in the UK and the DEA is a US organization, you have no jurisdiction and your actions are entirely illegal and can legitimately be opposed by the MPD. :-p Tomoko 13:34, 2 March 2006 (GMT)
- Federal law supersedes local jurisdictions. If anything, the MPD should be helping us. That MPD officers might oppose Federal agents carrying out legitimate search and seizures of contraband material simply indicates that corruption is rife in the MPD, and therefore may become a concern of this task force at some point in the future. ;) Petrosjko 02:42, 2 March 2006 (GMT)
- Ah, but that could also be construed as self-defense. And since the MPD enforces the law just as much as the DEA, well...
- That would be assaulting a federal officer, and a capital crime. --Jorm 00:57, 1 March 2006 (GMT)
- Who says I wouldn't shoot back? --Torvus 00:19, 1 March 2006 (GMT)
- Even if we are shooting you? --Grim s 17:11, 14 Feb 2006 (GMT)
- Okay, as long as it's the DEA that's cool by me.--Torvus 01:39, 10 Feb 2006 (GMT)
so..
So, If you get killed, do you get a revive?
If so, Then the whole idea is hypocritical dont you think? --Dark Wingstalker 13:52, 11 Feb 2006
- We are Pkers and GKers, you think hypocricy is such a crime? Its like saying a mob boss is a bad person for jaywalking. Also, please sign your comments. I manufactured your signature from what i found in the history. --Grim s 18:27, 13 Feb 2006 (GMT)
Yeah, Sorry about that, musta forget to click it! fair enough i suppose, As long as your directign hatred at caiger, its all good ;) --Dark Wingstalker 09:51, 15 Feb 2006 (GMT)
- Caiger? Sure, ive killed a couple of people there, but we have no interest in that cesspool of zerging and bot-ery.--Grim s 10:51, 16 Feb 2006 (GMT)
Way i see it, I maxed out my survivor bout a week ago. my only intrest in this game now is politics... A Pking organisation just makes things a little more intresting. --Dark Wingstalker 20:21, 16 Feb 2006 (GMT)
So you admit that you're hypocrites. Hah. You're just a bunch of cowardly griefers with nothing better to do than pick on people that're keeping low-level survivors interested playing the game. --Miikro 10:09, 22 March 2006 (GMT)
- Lemme run this through my trusty translatorerer..... Ah. We capped one of your revive-dealing scum characters, and now you're crying about it. I understand. There, there. It's not so bad! Here. Have a tissue. --Jorm 19:25, 22 March 2006 (GMT)
- Actually, no. I die somewhat often, so I couldn't care less if you've 'capped' me. I just see through your paperthin 'Roleplay' front and see what you really are. A bunch of zombie players with human alts that want to ruin revive clinics and 1) piss people off, since you get off on that, and 2) force people to play as zombies, or leave the game. I've got news for you: without revive clinics, you'd run out of brains to munch on, and this game wouldn't be very fun anymore, now would it? --Miikro 09:43, 23 March 2006 (GMT)
- You. . . have no idea what you're talking about. But go about your trenchcoaty business; we don't care. Ta-ta! --Jorm 10:01, 23 March 2006 (GMT)
- Actually, no. I die somewhat often, so I couldn't care less if you've 'capped' me. I just see through your paperthin 'Roleplay' front and see what you really are. A bunch of zombie players with human alts that want to ruin revive clinics and 1) piss people off, since you get off on that, and 2) force people to play as zombies, or leave the game. I've got news for you: without revive clinics, you'd run out of brains to munch on, and this game wouldn't be very fun anymore, now would it? --Miikro 09:43, 23 March 2006 (GMT)
I like ice cream, unicorns, roses and puppy dogs and I think the Malton DEA does too, and that's good enough for me. Keep up the good work. (This page needed more positivity, what with all the bitching and moaning. Mission accomplished!)--Mookiemookie 17:58, 5 April 2006 (BST)
Keep up the good work guys! This outbreak needs to be stopped! (No, I mean the drugs, but the harmless people we indiscriminetly kill because the happent to be different than us) BoboTalkClown 21:04, 24 September 2007 (BST)
You should update the page more frequently.
'Nuff said. We're interested, even if in a morbid sense. --MorthBabid 21:21, 20 February 2006 (GMT)
Yeah, I agree, you guys are PKers, but I'll be damned if you're not PKers with style. I'm all for you guys, keep the game interesting. Albeit, right now, it might be making it difficult what with the whole southwest going up in red flames, but hey, that's the way the world works. --Experiment 15:38, 25 July 2006 (BST)
Outsider's PoV
Although this roleplaying theme is decidedly interesting, it's of extremely questionable relevancy to a game about a zombie uprising. Although this is hardly the only group where this is the case. UNATCO is another good example of such. Considered adding such a comment to the NPOV section of the group page, but deciced to test it here first. Tomoko 02:54, 11 March 2006 (GMT)
This isn't a game about a zombie uprising, it's a game about a city quarantined away, because something has caused the dead to rise, walk the streets and hunt human brains. Kevan has stated that he will not implement any anti-PK measures as he feels that the belong in his vision of what this game is all about. The DEA's role-play take on the subject is choice, and very intrigueing as most groups really lack any kind of RP at all. Instead most groups choose to banter back and forth, out of the game, to save AP, while from what I've seen of the DEA, they chatter away during their raids.Lance Kokaine 03:19, 11 March 2006 (GMT)
- I have to disagree there. I'm all for RP, and PK groups make sense--this sort of situation tends to turn people against each other and bring out the crazies. I just doubt that the DEA is the sort of group that would spring up or thrive in this sort of situation. I prefer groups like The New Inquisition, The Amish Liberation Front, or IZONE, who are more in line with the sorts of groups that would spring up during this sort of event, or see it as their chance to act. I'd prefer more of this sort of group, and more of them who RP. Tomoko 11:53, 12 March 2006 (GMT)
- We play different from you. We have our own RP motivations; you disagree with them; that's fine; but it doesn't make our reasons any less valid. My character (SnoopyDogg) sees the DEA as being the only solid real "Law" in a lawless situation - a situation that his killed his parents. So he pursues that law, that reason, with every fiber of his being. Bag it all you want; I don't care. We're controversial. I suppose I should add that word to the NPOV section, I guess, if what's there already doesn't indicate that status, but whatever. My guess is that we bagged your revive-pushing ass one night and you didn't like it much so now are trying to find ways to cry foul or whatever. --Jorm 12:40, 12 March 2006 (GMT)
- Trust me, if this were about a vendetta against the group, I'd start a group specifically to destroy you. I'd probably be able to find plenty of people who have personal things or just find the idea annoying. This is because, as you say, the group is controversial. You _can't_ make a controversial group, then write off the controversy as people getting upset about you PKing them without looking stupid. This is more annoyance with the lack of RP--I _try_ to, but it's hard to manage without anyone else who RPs to bounce off of--and that the only major RP group I've seen has RP an backstory I find of questionable applicability to the game. Tomoko 17:09, 12 March 2006 (GMT)
- Your opinion is duly noted.--Jorm 17:38, 12 March 2006 (GMT)
- Everyone has different approaches. Consider the Imperial War Machine, which is viewing the game as the Galactic Empire suppressing a zombie outbreak, or the various 40K-themed groups that are running around killing people 'in the name of the Emperor'. They're warping the context of the game far more than we ever could. Not that it's a matter that concerns me any more than it concerns Jorm since it's been fun to play out, and even some of our victims have had fun with it. Petrosjko 05:20, 15 March 2006 (GMT)
- Your opinion is duly noted.--Jorm 17:38, 12 March 2006 (GMT)
- Trust me, if this were about a vendetta against the group, I'd start a group specifically to destroy you. I'd probably be able to find plenty of people who have personal things or just find the idea annoying. This is because, as you say, the group is controversial. You _can't_ make a controversial group, then write off the controversy as people getting upset about you PKing them without looking stupid. This is more annoyance with the lack of RP--I _try_ to, but it's hard to manage without anyone else who RPs to bounce off of--and that the only major RP group I've seen has RP an backstory I find of questionable applicability to the game. Tomoko 17:09, 12 March 2006 (GMT)
Clarification Please
What's the deal? During a siege by The Shining Ones that includes at least one DEA alt (Petro?) if not several, The Malton DEA are still in Yagoton PK'ng? And with so many High Level Abandoned Members around, Oleg felt the need to kill one of our low level members. And just strait kill him with no RP involved. Screenshot Hell, I was in the room, and you guys hate me. And I am much higher level. I thought you guys didn't soften up a Suburb before having your zombie alts come in. I thought you were completely above this sort of thing. Are the Malton DEA their own separate group, or are you just an extension of your zombie selves, bent on destroying all so that zombies can thrive? In our previous conversation, you seemed to have a code you played by, and this does not seem to jive with your previous discription of your code, so I am seeking Clarification. --NathanDansforth 10:26, 1 April 2006 (BST)
- Ahem. I, Unlife, am the player that runs Oleg. He is DEA, but I haven't been coordinating any of my actions with the rest of the group, at all. Jorm, Petro, or anyone else that has a DEA character isn't responsible for Oleg. I am. I don't have time for an explanation but I will give one within a few hours. Lay off Jorm and the group as a whole for what I am doing. Me. I. Oleg. That is who you should be directing your comments to, and I am definitely not operating as part of some vast zombie conspiracy or super-secret RRF/Shining Ones prepratory assault. Further more, it was me, I, _Oleg Thorgilsson_ that asked the DEA to lay off when The Grey had wiped out Latrobe and the Mall tour was on it's way. That was while:
- 1.The zombie strike was still very recent bitter memory.
- 2.The DEA was very very active with consistent coordinated daily raids and a long-running NT killing rampage that worked its way across from the suburbs on the far east all the way to a climactic ending with a YRC slaughter.
- My request was unpopular with the DEA but honored. We had a dozen fully loaded PK'ers ready to waste the entire YRC at the time, but over half of them were Mrh?'ing, and I felt that was unsporting.
- _I_ asked them to lay off and cancel two weeks of planning, movement, and anticipation, because there was an unrelated slaughter in progress between The Grey, the Neon Knights, and the Mall Tour (which none of us had participating characters in any of the above by the way). And Oleg died defending the SE corner of Bale against the Mall Tour. I saw no "The Abandoned" members helping us defend the mall either.
- All I told any DEA leadership is that I have a new hobby of killing The Abandoned, and I've been doing that daily for a week or two in retaliation. No one in the DEA commented on my hobby or offered assistance.
- Give me a couple of hours, and I will explain further why Oleg Thorgilsson is specifically being a dick as a rogue DEA member completely independant of command. Further Oleg Thorgilsson comments will be forthcoming. Please direct further comments on his behavior to me, the player, rather than to the group.
- I don't think your method of complaint will get a lot of DEA sympathy that would translate to group directives to me anyway.
- --Unlife 01:49, 5 April 2006 (BST)
- Okay. One more time for the stupid: The Malton DEA has NO AFFILLIATION WITH THE RRF OR ANY ZOMBIE GROUP AT ALL, YOU STUPID, MINDLESS, FUCKSTICK. None of us have alts in the Shining Ones (that I'm aware of); many of us have alts in the RRF. Take your paranoid, trenchcoat conspiracy theory, fold it up until it's all sharp corners, and shove it up your fucking ass. Is that clarification enough for you? --Jorm 11:02, 2 April 2006 (BST)
- I appreciate your civility. Is not Petro a member of the Malton DEA, RRF and The Shining Ones? Screenshot Before Desensitised went down, a lot of the people posting in the thread carried RRF in their signatures. That of course was before the RRF went human. ??? No affiliation, but members in common. I find it cheap that Oleg is PKing easy targets during a siege. There are 144 zeds listed in The Shining Ones. Everyone is spending all of their AP working on killing them, barricading and the whole bit. And Oleg sneaks in, kills, and leaves w/o saying a word. He did it again today. I thought you guys were all about Roll Playing. You justify your actions by the Roll Play aspect. Are you abandoning all pretense to your stated Modus Operandi and reason for existence? Can I get a reasonable response? --NathanDansforth 09:53, 3 April 2006 (BST)
- You know, this isn't even worth addressing. You may continue to have your paranoia. I hope it keeps you warm at night. --Jorm 18:06, 3 April 2006 (BST)
- Hey. I remember now why your name is so familiar: you were the guy who posted the personal information about Kieth Moon to desensitized and then "quit the game" when someone posted personal information about you. Okay. Another whining member of the Abandoned? Check. --Jorm 19:08, 3 April 2006 (BST)
- I posted a veiled allegation about Keith Moon, not personal information. Are there any adults here I could talk to? I have a valid complaint here, and Jorm can't be civil or reasonable. If you are PKing in a Suburb while a Zed Horde, that you have connections with, is sieging, that would make the Malton DEA zombie spies and not the RP thing you have been purporting all this time. If this is the case, you should change your NPOV section. And by PKing during a major siege, you are doing yourself a great disservice. There is no great challenge in it. There is no honor in it. It is just a cheap shot. One I thought unworthy of your group, but obviously I was wrong. The Malton DEA must just be a group of prepubescent teens hell-bent on masturbatory PKing just for the sake of it. --NathanDansforth 03:55, 4 April 2006 (BST)
- Wait, your "complaint" is actually two different ones; One: that the Malton DEA are being used to "soften up" targets for a zombie assualt. Two: Malton DEA are not acting like you beleive they have/should opperate.
Of the first, I can say this- no High-Ranking member of any other zombie horde serves in any leadership position of TSO. Therefore in any actions put forth by the M-DEA has no effect on- nor is considered by- TSO itself; in all actuality there is a high chance of any human alt being eaten if they remain within even a suburb-radius of Yagoton. M-DEA members have not and will not be identified, their actions will not be clairified, and their plans will not be streamlined to any member while I remain in TSO.
Secondly, as I have no idea what the 'modus operendi' of M-DEA is, and it is not clarified on their wiki, neither you nor I can decide what the "proper" form of "Warrent Enforcement" (or whatever Bounty Hunters shout now-a-days). Therefore any suppositions by you or I are ineffective, at best.- Dude, save your breath. The Abandoned are supposed to be the "protectors" of the YRC. Only, they do a very poor job of it. We've had one instance where they "found and executed" a DEA member and in doing so *apologized* to the other survivor in the room. . . who was also Malton DEA. I think they can kill 1 of us a day for the next month and not approach the number of them we've planted. So this isn't about anything more than a group of guys who got killed a lot crying about it. Dansforth here has had it in for us for a while, trying to find some . . . something. . . to hold against us or use against us or whatever. We could change our NPOV section to say "we just kill people whenever we fuckin' feel like it" and he wouldn't be happy. Plus, he's a guy who believes in the effectiveness of "zombie spies" so we'll get that a lot.--Jorm 05:12, 4 April 2006 (BST)
- Grim_s and others painted your group in a more noble light, but you are not. Ok fine. Got it. If you are helping TSO by killing the Suburb's best defenders, what would you call that? Zombie Spy seemed like a good catch all. TSO's leadership is mostly 1 or 2 guys pointing, and everyone following. So your leadership dance around the issue fails a bit. The Malton DEA has far too many ties to TSO for you to be working the same suburb. But Fine. I get it. You no longer care about these type of things. "We just kill people whenever we fuckin' feel like it" “We used to be entertaining in the process, but not so much anymore.�? Got it. Done. --NathanDansforth 06:39, 4 April 2006 (BST)
- You *really* need to work on your fuckin' reading comprehension skills, Nathan. I mean, really. I said "we *could* do this... and it would make no difference" because it doesn't matter what justification we give you: you will only ever believe that we are zombie spies and are working for the TSO - despite the fact that we've been KILLING YOU AND YOURS SINCE BEFORE THE TSO EXISTED.--Jorm 06:45, 4 April 2006 (BST)
- By killing us during the siege, you are helping them. And there are far too many ties between TSO and the DEA for this to be right. When TSO was Mall Tour, it didn't matter how many DEA alts and RRF memebers were in Mall Tour because the DEA was not here when Mall Tour was, and When the DEA was here, Mall Tour was at Cagier. At the very least, while TSO are in Yagoton, The DEA should be hasling people elsewhere. I was told before that the DEA doesn't do this kind of thing, but now you are. When other members of my group called the DEA spies for the RRF, I defended the DEA saying that this sort of thing would not happen. Obviously I was wrong, and believed the lies of your nobility. Or you could clear Yagoton, and wait for TSO to move on. But whatever. Not Noble. Wanton Killers. Got it. Moving On. --NathanDansforth 07:54, 4 April 2006 (BST)
- Jesus mary and joseph, you paranoid fuckstick. We haven't had any DEA raids since the early weeks of frickin' *March*. If one of yours got capped by a DEA agent, he was doing so on his own recognizance. I know for a fact that *most* members of the DEA have vacated the area so that they don't get killed by zombies. We never claimed we were "honorable" - we kill people, for chrissakes - but we're not "zombie spies" by any stretch. If it makes you feel better calling us that, feel free, but it's not the truth. But I'll tell you this: if the DEA *does* decide to go back to Yagoton, say, tomorrow, it will be most likely because of YOUR whining and not because we're helping out TSO.--Jorm 08:14, 4 April 2006 (BST)
- By killing us during the siege, you are helping them. And there are far too many ties between TSO and the DEA for this to be right. When TSO was Mall Tour, it didn't matter how many DEA alts and RRF memebers were in Mall Tour because the DEA was not here when Mall Tour was, and When the DEA was here, Mall Tour was at Cagier. At the very least, while TSO are in Yagoton, The DEA should be hasling people elsewhere. I was told before that the DEA doesn't do this kind of thing, but now you are. When other members of my group called the DEA spies for the RRF, I defended the DEA saying that this sort of thing would not happen. Obviously I was wrong, and believed the lies of your nobility. Or you could clear Yagoton, and wait for TSO to move on. But whatever. Not Noble. Wanton Killers. Got it. Moving On. --NathanDansforth 07:54, 4 April 2006 (BST)
- You *really* need to work on your fuckin' reading comprehension skills, Nathan. I mean, really. I said "we *could* do this... and it would make no difference" because it doesn't matter what justification we give you: you will only ever believe that we are zombie spies and are working for the TSO - despite the fact that we've been KILLING YOU AND YOURS SINCE BEFORE THE TSO EXISTED.--Jorm 06:45, 4 April 2006 (BST)
- Grim_s and others painted your group in a more noble light, but you are not. Ok fine. Got it. If you are helping TSO by killing the Suburb's best defenders, what would you call that? Zombie Spy seemed like a good catch all. TSO's leadership is mostly 1 or 2 guys pointing, and everyone following. So your leadership dance around the issue fails a bit. The Malton DEA has far too many ties to TSO for you to be working the same suburb. But Fine. I get it. You no longer care about these type of things. "We just kill people whenever we fuckin' feel like it" “We used to be entertaining in the process, but not so much anymore.�? Got it. Done. --NathanDansforth 06:39, 4 April 2006 (BST)
- Dude, save your breath. The Abandoned are supposed to be the "protectors" of the YRC. Only, they do a very poor job of it. We've had one instance where they "found and executed" a DEA member and in doing so *apologized* to the other survivor in the room. . . who was also Malton DEA. I think they can kill 1 of us a day for the next month and not approach the number of them we've planted. So this isn't about anything more than a group of guys who got killed a lot crying about it. Dansforth here has had it in for us for a while, trying to find some . . . something. . . to hold against us or use against us or whatever. We could change our NPOV section to say "we just kill people whenever we fuckin' feel like it" and he wouldn't be happy. Plus, he's a guy who believes in the effectiveness of "zombie spies" so we'll get that a lot.--Jorm 05:12, 4 April 2006 (BST)
- Wait, your "complaint" is actually two different ones; One: that the Malton DEA are being used to "soften up" targets for a zombie assualt. Two: Malton DEA are not acting like you beleive they have/should opperate.
- I posted a veiled allegation about Keith Moon, not personal information. Are there any adults here I could talk to? I have a valid complaint here, and Jorm can't be civil or reasonable. If you are PKing in a Suburb while a Zed Horde, that you have connections with, is sieging, that would make the Malton DEA zombie spies and not the RP thing you have been purporting all this time. If this is the case, you should change your NPOV section. And by PKing during a major siege, you are doing yourself a great disservice. There is no great challenge in it. There is no honor in it. It is just a cheap shot. One I thought unworthy of your group, but obviously I was wrong. The Malton DEA must just be a group of prepubescent teens hell-bent on masturbatory PKing just for the sake of it. --NathanDansforth 03:55, 4 April 2006 (BST)
- I appreciate your civility. Is not Petro a member of the Malton DEA, RRF and The Shining Ones? Screenshot Before Desensitised went down, a lot of the people posting in the thread carried RRF in their signatures. That of course was before the RRF went human. ??? No affiliation, but members in common. I find it cheap that Oleg is PKing easy targets during a siege. There are 144 zeds listed in The Shining Ones. Everyone is spending all of their AP working on killing them, barricading and the whole bit. And Oleg sneaks in, kills, and leaves w/o saying a word. He did it again today. I thought you guys were all about Roll Playing. You justify your actions by the Roll Play aspect. Are you abandoning all pretense to your stated Modus Operandi and reason for existence? Can I get a reasonable response? --NathanDansforth 09:53, 3 April 2006 (BST)
- Unlife says: Pardon me Nathan, but having read a bit more of this thread, you have convinced me that you are an utter asshole.
- Jorm didn't even put the name Oleg together with me, because I've been on a grand total of three DEA raids. Recently, I have been specifically killing "The Abandoned" because they are whiney poor-sport bitches that have been hunting me. So, rather than bitching about it, I've been hunting back.
- I joined the DEA because their banter is funny as hell, but I'm a terrible DEA RP'er and I'll be the first to admit it. I also have no affiliation whatsoever with the TSO. My zombie alt is RRF, and my survivor alt, Oleg, has lived almost exclusively in the warhouse SW of the Whatmore building in Yagoton, along with George Armstrong and oneninjamonkey since the character was created. When Oleg *defended* Yagoton from the hordes, rather than do our first planned DEA op against Yagoton, I noticed that for all the noise and fanfare of The Abandoned being there as the defenders of the YRC, they were decidedly absent. I expected survivor leadership so that Bale Mall would at least be able to give the Mall Tour a run for it's money, but instead I ended up with a couple of days in the mall and more and more people fleeing each day, with no help from your group.
- When Denny252(or whatever), Wileysez, and a couple of other guys hunted me down after the Whatmore raid, even though they didn't say word one to me, I didn't sweat it. I figured that by returning to my home in Yagoton, that I would probably be killed again, and I was. They didn't say word one, yet again. So, I'm returning the favor. Oleg has the new hobby of killing members of The Abandoned, as often as possible, whenever possible. Deal with it. I cared when YRC was getting smashed by The Grey and the Neon Knights, in fact, this is what I posted in the DEA forum:
- "Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:08 pm Post subject: Yagoton Revivication Clinic: Targets and Locations
- "I'm generally down all around, but I'm not going to mow down these poor sods by myself.
- "The DEA raids with several folks are damn funny. I don't know that there is an ultimate balance issue that a dozen or so people are going to carry things one way or the other.
- "But, if there aren't several people down with doing it, or if someone isn't going to take charge and give some direction, then I'll probably do what I'm doing until I come up with something better.
- "I could go either way on slaying the Abandoned and the YRC (although, in this case, it would take a while to recover due to the circumstances) just now. I'm certainly loaded for it, but just PKing for body-count doesn't interest me much. I would like to do it with style.
- "I honestly don't feel like being decisive on any of it, I'll basically follow whereever some significant group concensus takes me. It [the DEA] wasn't my idea, I didn't plan it, etc. I'm just jumpin' in on the coat-tails of something I thought was hilarious. It didn't have to have a higher meaning to me.
- "Until someone decides, I'll be providing first-aid and barracading a lot in Yagoton, because that is something folks there need done. Of course, you guys could decide that I should waste as many as I can and mock their steaming corpses... which is a pretty good option, too. I think it would make more of an impression than my first-aid kits, too.
- "I forgot to mention NAMEDELETED, that very warehouse was hit by zombies not long after you took the screen shot. It had 11 zombies inside hours ago, and they were actively killing DrJellyfinger and Asahi... I helped slow down their deaths a little.
- "I only had a few AP, so I barracaded once and healed them until I was out of kits. But I was watching them take hits. I was honestly suprised the zombies didn't notice me and try to infect me.
- "I came back an hour and a half later, and there are 13 zombies (although it is more barracaded). DrJellyfinger and Asahi are no longer there (probably dead), and Medicus and Byardicus are now being eaten. All of those guys were on my kill-list, but I figure as a survivor, I should do my bit for other breathers before searching them for drugs.
- "The mall is still chock-full of folks though. It appears that The Grey are more after the YRC than they are into the current trendy way to eat."
- After my post, enough people agreed it was unsporting to wipe out all of the remaining YRC and Abandonded that the attack was called off.
- So, why I am killing The Abandoned now one might ask? Because of guys like you NathanDansforth. You are an asshole. As a representative of your group, and based on the actions (and inaction for all the smack-talking) of your group. I will continue my hobby of killing The Abandoned. If the DEA puts together another organized raid that I can participate in, I might put a hold on my hobby, because the raids are fun. But you know, I'm just not going to put any effort into RPing when I kill you guys. You are aren't worth it, I'm not good at it, and you fail to see the humor in it anyway.
- In short, there is no grand zombie conspiracy; you are mouthing off about crap when you have no idea what you are talking about; and you annoy me. So, stop me from killing you or stock up on revive. Unlife 05:56, 5 April 2006 (BST)
- Huh. Hey Nathan, seriously, keep the name of TSO out of your mouth. The sturdyness of "evidence" you cite is belied by your assumptions of leadership- you see exactly what the level of comprehension we provide to the public. You are not allowed to know the level that we truly meta-game at. (Two seperate forums, 1 very useful UD Tool, 1 private Chat Room).
Furthermore, we have never heard of a single M-DEA member or any give or receive information or assistance- (not that we need it, as you can see).
TSO Didn't consider that M-DEA was in Yagoton; they would get eaten just like anyone else if they remained.
Evidenced by Jorm's response, it's obvious you were struck by a character who did not know or care of the coming of TSO- therefore there was no alternate abuse, as by Jorm's words, all/most M-DEA agents went out of suburb anyway. Therefore, you can stop; TSO has never used alts in their assualts, and will not do so in the future.--Karlsbad 08:21, 4 April 2006 (BST)- I don't know. There is so much to respond to, yet my every response just gets me sworn at. And you miss nearly everything I say. I have never been killed by the DEA. I was complaining on behalf of one of my teammates. I have not stated that info or whatever has passed between the two. But if DEA members are killing humans not currently accessible to the hordes, they are doing the work of the horde. To avoid the perception of impropriety, the DEA should have sent out an order on their secret forum for all members to clear the suburb. Whatever. Jorm, what would you prove by coming in and killing us while we are busy fighting off the horde I have been forbidden from mentioning? It would not declare your group to be Badasses, just cheap punks. But whatever. If you have nothing better to do, don’t let me get in the way of your self stroking. How old are you? And Karlsbad, you and yours are quite effective. Wish you had been this effective in Caiger. --NathanDansforth 10:34, 4 April 2006 (BST)
- Well, now that it is clear (isn't it?) that you do not believe that there is any possible alt-abuse, then the problem is that you believe that the M-DEA is doing something that they would not do anyway, which I consider incorrect; PKing is like the rain, it is a force of nature. In my way of viewing it, that man was killed by the M-DEA before he ever was shot. Therefore his possible contribution is as in need of consideration as possible results of the RNG- what has happened has happened, and there is really nothing you can do about it; as long as M-DEA does not alt-abuse and continues moving as they have, they are not considered to be doing anything that they haven't already been doing. --Karlsbad 11:23, 4 April 2006 (BST)
- Could you possibly be any more pathetic? "Please don't kill us while a horde is killing us, too!" *THAT'S* what this is about? You've got your hands too full? Lemme tell you: it would totally be within our roleplay motive to take advantage of the situation and kill as many of you as possible right now. Is that hard to understand? Not our fault you guys decided to "protect" the worst pushers of Revive in Malton: it makes you targets. If you don't like that heat, get out of the kitchen.--Jorm 11:58, 4 April 2006 (BST)
- I don't have a list of which DEA members are which RRF members, and which RRF members are also in "The Horde I can not name" (Other than Petro) but there is enough of an appearance of crossover that the DEA should not be operating in the same suburb. But whatever. I was attempting to make a complaint to people who had previously seemed to be reasonable, but it has instead fallen on deaf ears. (Are the rest of the DEA on vacation and left Jorm to watch the desk?) Fine. I am done. --NathanDansforth 23:27, 4 April 2006 (BST)
- Well, when we decide we want you to tell us what we "should" and "should not" do, we'll come and ask. Until then, don't let the door hit you on the ass as you leave.--Jorm 23:42, 4 April 2006 (BST)
- One clarification, not that I care what a dipshit like Danforth thinks- my DEA character has been idled out for nearly a month now. As for spying, no, I didn't even know Yago was a target until after it'd been announced, since the MIGHTY WARLORD does not deign to share his grand design with mere mortals such as myself. And the MIGHTY WARLORD discerned that people would probably cluster in Bale Mall, such is the genius of his immortal mind. Likewise, he discerned that people might well cluster in NT buildings and PDs, wisdom that he now shares with us MERE MORTALS. Such is the blessing of being a SHINING ONE. Oh, and Natty? Weren't you quitting, anyway? Petrosjko 04:40, 5 April 2006 (BST)
- But Papa Petro, he could not possibly have known that humans would be inside a Mall unless he used the super-secret zombie ninja spy organization ZOMG, or he really does have GODLIKE POWERS! They really are shiney. Are you sure that some human didn't whisper into their ear, "psst, get this, there are people in...*looks both ways* ...Bale Mall!" I mean, the appearance of crossover is pretty intense.Unlife22:38, 5 April 2006 (BST)~
- Unlife replies: So, since you didn't deal with the individual player who is killing your whiney group, "there is enough of an appearance of crossover," I see. Yes, it's pretty damning evidence that Oleg Thorgilsson, as a resident of Yagoton from whence he spawned has killed members of the group that have been hunting him since he participated in a bust at the Whatmore building. Wow. You should join the DEA with such incredible police work. Assumption of guilt, combined with "appearance," equals judgement. Yeah, that's exactly how we deal with Necrotechs found in Necrotech buildings, and in my case how I deal with The Abandoned. If they are affliated with you, I should PK them.
- Here is the entirety of my communication to the rest of the group, so you can demonstrate my dastardly "zombie spy" nature to the world:
- "Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:35 am
- "The abandoned has kacked me twice now.
- One clarification, not that I care what a dipshit like Danforth thinks- my DEA character has been idled out for nearly a month now. As for spying, no, I didn't even know Yago was a target until after it'd been announced, since the MIGHTY WARLORD does not deign to share his grand design with mere mortals such as myself. And the MIGHTY WARLORD discerned that people would probably cluster in Bale Mall, such is the genius of his immortal mind. Likewise, he discerned that people might well cluster in NT buildings and PDs, wisdom that he now shares with us MERE MORTALS. Such is the blessing of being a SHINING ONE. Oh, and Natty? Weren't you quitting, anyway? Petrosjko 04:40, 5 April 2006 (BST)
- Well, when we decide we want you to tell us what we "should" and "should not" do, we'll come and ask. Until then, don't let the door hit you on the ass as you leave.--Jorm 23:42, 4 April 2006 (BST)
- I don't have a list of which DEA members are which RRF members, and which RRF members are also in "The Horde I can not name" (Other than Petro) but there is enough of an appearance of crossover that the DEA should not be operating in the same suburb. But whatever. I was attempting to make a complaint to people who had previously seemed to be reasonable, but it has instead fallen on deaf ears. (Are the rest of the DEA on vacation and left Jorm to watch the desk?) Fine. I am done. --NathanDansforth 23:27, 4 April 2006 (BST)
- I don't know. There is so much to respond to, yet my every response just gets me sworn at. And you miss nearly everything I say. I have never been killed by the DEA. I was complaining on behalf of one of my teammates. I have not stated that info or whatever has passed between the two. But if DEA members are killing humans not currently accessible to the hordes, they are doing the work of the horde. To avoid the perception of impropriety, the DEA should have sent out an order on their secret forum for all members to clear the suburb. Whatever. Jorm, what would you prove by coming in and killing us while we are busy fighting off the horde I have been forbidden from mentioning? It would not declare your group to be Badasses, just cheap punks. But whatever. If you have nothing better to do, don’t let me get in the way of your self stroking. How old are you? And Karlsbad, you and yours are quite effective. Wish you had been this effective in Caiger. --NathanDansforth 10:34, 4 April 2006 (BST)
- Huh. Hey Nathan, seriously, keep the name of TSO out of your mouth. The sturdyness of "evidence" you cite is belied by your assumptions of leadership- you see exactly what the level of comprehension we provide to the public. You are not allowed to know the level that we truly meta-game at. (Two seperate forums, 1 very useful UD Tool, 1 private Chat Room).
- "So without fanfare (or any banter at all) I've been killing one Abandoned a day from the Warehouse north of the Whatmore building.
- "Soon, I'll have to use the axe unless I go out getting ammo.
- "Now, admittedly I was begging to get killed the second time as I slept in my old safehouse two south of the Whatmore building. I just wanted to make them kill me in front of my old neighbors."
- Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:35 am "I haven't been PKing them with style myself. I've been too lazy.
- "They killed me twice without a word, so I just killed one a day without a word for four days running.
- "Now I'm completely tapped for ammo.
- "After I killed Doubler (my fourth rude wordless slaying), they stopped collecting in the same warehouse all the time. I feel vindicated, but I'm not really done with my new hobby yet."
- Woo! With dastardly spywork like that, I should be in the CIA! Incredible intelligence work for the zombie hordes, I must say! It's clearly superior to any intelligence gathering that The Abandoned seems to do. --Unlife 06:13, 5 April 2006 (BST)
- PS: Thanks for noticing.
- Wait.... What zombie group are we supposedly helping out this time? Blegh! Zombies, Humans... Half of them are filthy junkies and the other half are probably their pushers! Just remember; There is no sex in the champaign room. None... And there ain't no zombie spiez either!
--Paddy Fitzgerald 10:20, 5 April 2006 (BST)
You call this justice?
Sheesh lueeze you guys you go on about, fairness and justice and "drug" busts, but all I see is a group of jerks who go around, raiding NT buildings, and killing people even suspected of having a revification syringe? Also one more thing, you know there are minors playing this game, I dont think they or their parents appreciate them having curse words thrown at them. Please clean up your acts guys, Rp'ing my ass.
- Another satisfied customer. . . or should I say, "punished revive pusher."--Jorm 20:42, 16 April 2006 (BST)
I prefer the term, "Preventer of the Apocolypse" and instead of just being shouting back general quips, would you actually answer my queries? --MrDavid 04:48, 17 April 2006 (BST)
- You didn't ask a question; you put a question mark at the end of a sentence. And you can read the entire discussion and/or main page for more information.--Jorm 05:13, 17 April 2006 (BST)
- Please rephrase your question in the form of a question. Thank you. --Unlife 05:22, 18 April 2006 (BST)
Ok then can you please elaborate on the ways you use to identify "revive pushers" and how you designate which people in a room have drawn weapons?--MrDavid 07:06, 18 April 2006 (BST)
- Anyone with Necrotech skills. ANY Necrotech skill. Anyone. They're all guilty. All of them. Dirty, filthy, scummy revive pushers. And they *all* have guns. --Jorm 07:16, 18 April 2006 (BST)
So you go into a room, search for people with Necro skills, and pick any 2 or 3 of them randomly kill them "inform them" why you're there and leave? As much as I disagree I'll leave it at that, thanks for answering anyway.--MrDavid 10:16, 18 April 2006 (BST)
- On the matter of language, if parents don't want their children exposed to DIRTY WORDS, they shouldn't let them have unmonitored internet access. Or TV access. Or music access. In fact, we must lock all children up to keep their virgin ears safe. Personally, I think people are too fucking uptight about harmless shit like SWEAR WORDS. Petrosjko 01:47, 19 April 2006 (BST)
Well.... I'm not usually uptight about it, I swear like a trooper sometimes, but I personally think theres a time and a place, but yeah ok.--MrDavid 04:29, 21 April 2006 (BST)
YOU PEOPLE CALL THIS JUSTICE!?!?!? THE PROPER AUTHORITIES SHALL BE ALERTED OF THIS! I DEMAND MY RIGHT TO A LAWYER AND A DOUBLE-STACKED BACON GRILL CHEESEBURGER WITH TOMATO AND AN OPTIONAL SIDE OF ONION RINGS! --Undeadinator 23:06, 20 April 2006 (BST)
- I am in agreeance. THINK OF THE CHILDREN--Bermudez 23:30, 20 April 2006 (BST)
- WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?--Mpaturet 23:32, 20 April 2006 (BST)
Pk-day
PK-Day | |
Remember that 6/6/6 was Pk-day! |
Please feel free to take part, and spread the word. Further Ideas, Suggestions and contributions are welcome. Yours sincerely --PatheticBill 23:25, 6 May 2006 (BST)
Mistake kill
One of your members, SnoopyDogg, killed me recently while I was sleeping in a factory. This would seem to be some kind of mistake, because I'm the co-leader of Assault on Stupid Survivors: hardly what your group claims to target. We're willing to overlook this little indiscretion if you agree not to target our members in the future. --Bob Hammero ASS 06:49, 9 May 2006 (BST)
- No mistake; Snoopy was reducing his bounty. He is an officer of the law, after all. However, he'll refrain from bringing your people down in the future.--Jorm 08:03, 9 May 2006 (BST)
- Excellent. Thank you. --Bob Hammero ASS 08:25, 9 May 2006 (BST)
Bad cop. No doughnut.
Wether or not you are actuly police officers, that's what I got from your main page. And now the point: Don't target Necrotech people! They're just differnt and missunderstood. Oh and for others viewing this, I have startaling evidence that the leader of the group is actualy a zombie who created this group as a way to upset the human-zombie balance in the zombies favor. Have a nice day!--Labine50 MHG 02:29, 28 May 2006 (BST)
- Your character shot and killed an officer in the line of duty and has been reported as a PKer. Just, you know, FYI.--Jorm 02:48, 28 May 2006 (BST)
- OMFG! BUSTED! It's common knowledge that the dozen or so members of the DEA were drawn from senior RRF members, something we've never denied. (Sorry, your 'startaling evidence' is useless.) As for the notion that a dozen or so PK characters could 'upset the balance', we never had delusions like that nor an interest in doing. We played the DEA because our survivor characters (which had maxed out hunting zombies) were boring to play since zombies were not a menace in December. When zombies became a menace again, we broke up and went back to zombie-hunting, then reformed during the Necronet population dive because again, hunting zombies was boring and easy. It wasn't some dipshit master plot, it was getting the most fun out of our characters. Grow the fuck up. Oh, and as another FYI, the 'leader' of this group has since retired from UD, and if we were to ever reform, we'd get a new one. By the way, I busted your mother last night. Petrosjko 15:37, 28 May 2006 (BST)
Thats not nice to talk about "busting moms" that would start a war. Anyway I,m here in Wyke Hills using needle after needle of "revive" to no effect, come and hunt me down. soildsnake1 18:31, 05 November 2006 (BST)
Cybele's Children Says Hello!
On behalf of all of the Children, I would like to extend a hearty hello. So hello from all 1 of us! :) I hope that one day we may meet and work together... Either that, or you avoid taking me out. I'm just a simple psychiatrist trying to advance the presence of women in Malton.
It seems I have a lot of greeting to do, so I may talk to you all later. Until then, *nods her head* Torec T 20:37, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Activity?
Are you guys still active? Because a member that belongs to you just destroyed some items of ours. --KWild 04:55, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- We are not active as a group.--Jorm 05:11, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- An alt of mine has seen some DEA propaganda in Crooketon recently. It is comforting to know that there are still some deranged narcs running around Malton. Just say no to 'mrh?'Eugene the Zombie 11:30, 9 June 2007 (BST)
- Any sprays or propaganda are not officially sanctioned or done by the Malton DEA. We have disbanded, and I think I may be one of the only remaining members to even play Urban Dead. So it isn't us. We weren't big fans of sprays anyway.--Jorm 20:38, 9 June 2007 (BST)
- An alt of mine has seen some DEA propaganda in Crooketon recently. It is comforting to know that there are still some deranged narcs running around Malton. Just say no to 'mrh?'Eugene the Zombie 11:30, 9 June 2007 (BST)