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| {{Developing Suggestions Intro}} | | <noinclude>{{Developing Suggestions Intro}}</noinclude> |
| ==Suggestions==
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| | ===Ignore based on Radio Broadcast=== |
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| |'''Timestamp:''' Feb. 10, 2011 | | |'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Khwud|Khwud]] ([[User talk:Khwud|talk]]) 17:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
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| |'''Type:''' New Zombie Hunter Skill | | |'''Type:''' UI enhancement |
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| |'''Description:''' So, I was thinking. There is only one zombie hunter skill. So much potential to add to that. One thing I was thinking about is the suvivor being able to charge and "push" a zombie out of the building. The zombie has to be less than 13 hp and the door has to be left wide open. Its sort of like Feeding drag, except the suvivor is pushing the zombie out of the building. Whether the suvivor has to go out in the street with the zombie or not is open to discussion. | | |'''Description:''' Allow 'ignore' from radio broadcasts; users are hiding behind their anonymity to allow them to broadcast things that would broadly trigger them to be ignored, if their user ID was visible. Adding their name, or an auto-generated call-sign (it is for a radio, after all) or something so that they could be blocked based on their broadcasts would help user experience. In addition, and broadcasts that get more than a threshold number could get tagged for review, and the user potentially having their (in-game) ham-license revoked. |
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| This might be useful if there is a large break and you desperately need to get zombies out of the building to decrease their numbers.
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| ====Discussion (Bull Rush)==== | | ====Discussion (Ignore based on Radio Broadcast)==== |
| Put a limit on a minimum number of zombies present before it can be used and I'm for it. If it can be used on lone ferals it's really overpowered, but as a tool versus hordes it should be alright. Just make it exactly the same as feeding drag (<13HP, door open), only versus zombies. Probably keep the survivor inside, but maybe bring them outside too? Like a rugby tackle. Maybe minimum five zombies present before it can be used? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 18:20, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
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| How does one tell how much HP a zed has left without first attacking them? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:29, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
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| |'''Timestamp:''' --[[User:Scvideoking|Scvideoking]] 22:47, 6 February 2011 (UTC)scvideoking | | |'''Timestamp:''' --[[User:Uroguy|Uroguy]]<sup>[[Zookeepers|TMZ]]</sup> 16:28, 14 February 2023 (UTC) |
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| |'''Type:''' Tweak | | |'''Type:''' Map change |
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| |'''Scope:''' Survivors | | |'''Scope:''' Everyone |
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| |'''Description:'''A new in-game concept where it would take a lot of work but hear me out.A new button would appear at all locations.When asleep a survivor gains '''1 AP per 15 minutes''',but they get the same screen for when they run out of AP.there would be a button saying wake up instead of being able to do nothing.They are easier to hit by anyone. | | |'''Description:''' There are just over 3000 active characters in the game currently likely counting a significant percentage of alts and zergs. Shrinking the map by eliminating the outer first two rings of suburbs would increase the amount of interactions between the remaining characters. This shrink could be increased or decreased depending on future changes to the playerbase. |
| -When in a building the description would list people asleep EX:Urbandead,Bob,sally,and tom are all asleep in various places of the building.
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| These players would have an extra 20% chance to get attacked by all other urbandead players.
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| what do you think? '''may be a dupe and my extreme and most sincere apoliges to the disscussion below me for necrotech adrenaline shots I didnt mean to delete you post'''
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| ====Discussion (Sleep)==== | | ====Discussion (Shrink the map)==== |
| Tinkering with APs is generally a bad idea. Also, this one would only help survivors, and would always be the best option unless you sleeping in a mall with a lot of PKers running around or in immediate danger of being overwhelmed by zombies. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 23:57, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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| [[PR_Skill_New:_Survivor:_Civilian#Untroubled_Sleep_.28Extra_AP.29|Peer Reviewed Dupe]]. Also, I fixed your accidental deletion of the suggestion at the bottom. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 00:07, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
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| Sleep is already a function of the game. Survivors with 0 AP are asleep. Read the game text again. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 13:20, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
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| ===NecroTech adrenaline shot=== | | ===Action Points=== |
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| |'''Timestamp:''' [[User:BlackDragon2026|BlackDragon2026]] 22:11, 6 February 2011 (UTC) | | |'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Wolldog1]] 10:07, 26 July 26, 2022 |
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| |'''Type:''' new item | | |'''Type:''' Action Points Increase Regeneration Rate |
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| |'''Scope:''' survivors | | |'''Scope:''' Everyone |
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| |'''Description:''' Another product created by NecroTech, this needle contains chemicals, hormones, and other fun stuff that opens up different synapses, and gives the user 5 AP's. However,each use of the shot degraded the persons health( -5 HP) and when it was discovered that overuse could lead to death, the FDA insisted that NecroTech install a simple blood reader on all adrenaline shots. The blood reader will see if the user has taken the shot in the last 12 hours, if so, then the item will not allow the shot to be administrated to the user. | | |'''Description:''' Due to the passage of time with mobile games and other real time action games without restriction, I think that we should address the action points system of the game. This game can only realistically be played for 5 minutes a day. So it's not really a seller for new blood. If we want to see this game survive it needs to evolve into something more exciting than 5 minutes. My suggestion is double the regeneration rate to improve activity. I love this game. I want to play it more. And the die hard fans I'm sure feel the same. More will go on in a day, sure. But that's for both sides. We're ready for it. Let's get this game moving again. We need this. |
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| ====Discussion (NecroTech adrenaline shot)==== | | ====Discussion (Action Points)==== |
| Why do people never think of death-cultists when they propose health degradation as trade-off for AP boosts? Cultists want less health and moar APs all at the same time. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 23:55, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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| [[Suggestions/RejectedMarch2006#Adrenaline_Syringe|Rejected and possible Dupe.]] --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 23:58, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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| Explain why the FDA are tinkering with English products. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 13:21, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
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| ===THE JOURNEY BACK=== | | ===Drone=== |
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| |'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Laffayette|Laffayette]] 01:51, 6 February 2011 (UTC) | | |'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup> 19:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC) |
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| |'''Type:''' Skill Change | | |'''Type:''' Survivor Item |
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| |'''Scope:''' Brainrotters who wish to became fully human again | | |'''Scope:''' Survivors |
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| |'''Description:''' The main goals of this suggestion are: | | |'''Description:''' Portable drone, found in mall tech stores, which are pointless as we all know. Encumbrance is 10%. When activated for 15ap they provide an image of a 10x10 grid centred on the survivor, showing the current outside status of all blocks including zombies, survivors and dead bodies. Like DNA scanners, Drones are multi use. |
| # To make brain rot reversible
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| # To do so in a way that does not trivialize this reversal
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| # To add fun game mechanics that help with 2
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| So, the suggestion:
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| If a human with brain rot so wishes, he can go to a NT and receive a treatment (presumably, from a player with NecroNet Access) so that he can start a "quest" to lose brain rot
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| * Gain 500 XP points without dying (the ingame justification would be like Physical therapy for Alzeihmers: The guy is learning to make his brain work again)
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| * Kill 10 rotters without dying (the ingame justification would be some substance in the rotters brain, that the player is collecting, possibly with the help of a DNA extractor)
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| * Stay alive for 2 months (without inactivity) and find the doctor who started the treatment, so he can finish it (the ingame justification would be that this is the way treatment works. Would be way more fun if it wasn't possible to coordinate using other means)
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| * Some other fun idea
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| After the quest is completed, the player looses Brain Rot, and Flesh Rot becomes inactive till he buys Brain Rot again }
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| ====Discussion (THE JOURNEY BACK)====
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| Hate the idea personally. You buy the rot you don't go back, it is a commitment for a reason. Besides most players who get the rot have a survivor alt or at least one that doesn't have the rot.{{User:Mazu/sig}} 05:44, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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| I like the idea of a quest system but not if the only reward is that I get brain rot reversed. Also, the tasks presented seem more difficult than actually going to RRPs when you become dead and want to be alive again. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 07:18, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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| Having a huge (perhaps disproporcionate) cost to get rot reverse is kinda the point. [[User:Laffayette|Laffayette]] 07:28, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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| ===Makeshift Weapons===
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| |'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Pathetic Bill X| Pathetic Bill X]] February 1, 2010 15:28
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| |'''Scope:''' New skills that would allow a character to create temporary items/weapons by combining items.
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| |'''Description:''' New items that would need to be introduced include: box of nails (uses=3), duct tape (uses=4), lighter (uses=3), and bundle of wires (uses=2).
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| '''Basic Makeshift Skill:''' Allows you to make simple items using the toolbox.</p>
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| '''Advanced Makeshift Skill:''' Allows you to make better items. Acc with makeshift weapons raised 5%.
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| '''Engineering:''' You can make even better items. Acc with makeshift weapons raised 5%.
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| '''Advanced Engineering:''' You can make the best items. Acc with makeshift weapons raised 5%.'''(Note: Basic Makeshift is needed for the other three skills, both basic and advanced makeshift is needed for engineering skills. Basic engineering is required for advanced)'''
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| With these new skills, you'd be able to combine various objects that would normally not be very helpful into useful tools. However, the items that you use have a 40% chance of breaking each time they are used. You would combine items by clicking on the toolbox(if you have one). A small menu, similar to when you're using a cell phone would appear, with six drop down menus and a create button. You would select your items from the drop downs, then you click the button and your new item will appear in your inventory. How many skills you have in makeshift weapons and engineering determines what you can make and how accurate you are with them. Weapon skills will affect accuracy. Here are some examples:<p>
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| '''Spike Knuckles:''' Duct tape + Box of nails, increases punch damage to 2. Acc the same as punching.</p>
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| '''Nail Bat:''' Box of nails + Baseball bat, Dmg 3 Base Acc 20%.<p>
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| '''Spear:''' Length of pipe + duct tape + knife, Dmg 3 Base Acc 30%</p>
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| '''Battle Axe:''' Fire Axe(x2) + duct tape(x2), Dmg 5 Base Acc 15%
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| '''Flamethrower:''' Spray can + duct tape + lighter, Dmg 15 Base Acc 10% uses=3</p>
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| That was just some weapon examples, now here are some examples of non weapon creations:
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| <p>'''Armored Vest:''' Length of pipe(x2) + duct tape + Flack Jacket, 40% damage reduction. '''(Note: Does not stack with a normal flack jacket)'''</p>'''Zombie Alarm:''' portable generator + DNA extractor + radio transmitter + bundle of wires + duct tape, the zombie alarm is set in a particular area where it will broadcast to whatever radio freq it was set to. It will broadcast how many zombies are at its location every hour. It needs fuel to work, and it can be destroyed.
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| <s>'''Torch:''' Lighter(x2) + length of pipe + duct tape, allows you to search a unlit building as if it were lit. Runs out quickly.</s></p>
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| Thats all I can think of for now, I couldn't find this in the over suggested stuff, so I hope to get some constructive feedback.
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| | | ====Discussion (Drone)==== |
| ====Discussion (Makeshift Weapons)==== | | Would there be a message displayed to the players to the effect of "there's a drone buzzing overhead", similar to a flare? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:19, 24 July 2022 (UTC) |
| See also: Dead Rising 2? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 22:07, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
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| : Exactly what i was thinking, now I want a sledgehammer as well :D--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 16:48, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
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| [[Suggestions/RejectedJanuary2007#Weapon_Customization.2FMutations|Not a dupe. Just worth pointing out.]] --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:08, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
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| ''No'' portable light sources - they are a ''huge'' can of worms that would need to be tackled on its own. (And even then, it would be better to let it be.) --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 22:10, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
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| I'll gladly drop the portable light source thing, because I can see where you're coming from Spiderzed. But I have to disagree with Misanthropy and Axehack, Dead Rising 2's makeshift weapons are quite over the top and most wouldn't be very practical. I'm simply refering to things that could just give you a temporary edge in a pinch, like making your punches do more damage. Or if nothing else, provide for a bit more flavor. As for Cap'n Silly's rejected idea, his suggestion seems to be more like perks than actually making a new weapon, I can see why it was rejected. I think that maybe if I bounced the idea around a bit, I could clean it up some. Besides the torch, is there any other problems? [[User:Pathetic Bill X|Pathetic Bill X]] February 2, 2010 11:47
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| I'd support the idea except the armored vest and zombie alarm they seem to strong. The make shift weapons would bring a little bit more humor to an aging game. Not to mention some interesting kill messages ''"Player### was speared by a javelin"'' or ''"PlayerXX head shot you with a makeshift battle axe"''. I don't see any of them would be used regularly in the long run because a fire axe is still the best melee weapon and you don't need any skills or tools to make it. Eventually they would fall into the same group as sports equipment weapons once the novelty wore off, relegated to flavor kills which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Also nail down what the encumbrance for those weapons would be as it would be an important factor.{{User:Mazu/sig}} 04:02, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
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| : I think for now, I'd say we've discussed it enough. I'll come back with a revised version later. I'll work on it, and try to make some improvements to make it more useful and stuff. I appreciate the constructive critisism guys. [[User:Pathetic Bill X|Pathetic Bill X]] February 4, 2010 21:58
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| |'''Timestamp:''' --[[User:Anachomutualist|Anarchomutualist]] <sub>[[User:Anachomutualist/Journal|says:]]</sub> <sup>The state is war, ⓐnarchy is order.</sup> 18:00, 30 January 2011 (UTC) | | |'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Wild Crazy|Wild Crazy]] ([[User talk:Wild Crazy|talk]]) 20:55, 20 September 2021 (UTC) |
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| |'''Type:''' Flavor | | |'''Type:''' New item |
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| |'''Scope:''' Spraycans | | |'''Scope:''' Survivors |
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| |'''Description:''' When graffiting [[Borehamwood#Distinct_Features_of_Borehamwood|"a bloodied eye"]] onto a wall in [[Borehamwood]], [http://img266.imageshack.us/i/36738052ls1.png/ an actual image of a bloodied eye showed up]. And post-apocalyptic fiction includes examples of religious or political symbols in graffiti. Why not apply that to Malton? | | |'''Description:''' This will be a new item found in schools with a 2% find rate and sports stores with a 4% find rate. The low numbers are because, like a flak jacket, once you find it you have it forever. It increases you encumbrance by 30%. However, you can't use an item that is in your backpack until you remove it from the backpack. It costs one AP to add an item to your backpack and one AP to remove an item. An item affects your regular encumbrance until added to the backpack. Items such as GPS, radios, cell phones, and flak jacket do not work when in your backpack. Items in your backpack will not be shown in your inventory, but the backpack itself will be shown in your inventory. There will be a drop box next to the word backpack that shows all the items inside. When you click on an item in that drop box, it removes it from your backpack (1 AP). |
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| *{{udspan|Someone has spraypainted ''a circle-a'' here.}} becomes {{udspan|Someone has spraypainted a large Ⓐ here.}}
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| *{{udspan|Someone has spraypainted ''a hammer and sickle'' here.}} becomes {{udspan|Someone has spraypainted a large ☭ here.}}
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| *{{udspan|Someone has spraypainted ''a crucifix'' here.}} becomes {{udspan|Someone has spraypainted a large † here.}}
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| A better approach would be for some sort of tags (say asterisks) to cancel the italics in spraying - so "*a hammer and sickle*" would come up as {{Udspan|Someone has spraypainted a hammer and sickle here.}} instead of {{Udspan|Someone has spraypainted ''a hammer and sickle'' here.}} {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 19:06, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
| | Q: If it wastes AP, what is the point? |
| :Ooo, ooo! You know, I was always curious about the bloodied eye, and now that I saw it I don't like it. Bummer. Neither do I like the other images, they comlpletely break the look of the game (even with UDTool running). I'd like smaller, black-and-green (or something else, similar to the UD look) symbols instead, which look like they were actually painted on the wall (like the circle-a). Misanthropy has a nice idea, too. I'm fond of spraypainting... erhm, 'something'... all around town, having it merge with the block description would be plain AWESOME. {{User:Monstah/Sig}} 04:21, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
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| ::Yeah, the pictures I did were a little stopgap. I would assume that a finalized version would include include more..."blendy" pictures. Or maybe ASCII characters? Like if you type in, "a circle-a" it comes up as {{udspan|Someone has spraypainted a large Ⓐ here.}} without the italics. I believe that there are ASCII crosses, hammers and sickles, and a variety of other political/religious symbols to choose from. ----[[User:Anachomutualist|Anarchomutualist]] <sub>[[User:Anachomutualist/Journal|says:]]</sub> <sup>The state is war, ⓐnarchy is order.</sup> 14:07, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
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| :::That would win you an internets, sir. {{User:Monstah/Sig}} 23:30, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::Look what I found: ☭, †. {{udspan|Someone has spraypainted a large ☭ here.}} {{udspan|Someone has spraypainted a large † here.}} ----[[User:Anachomutualist|Anarchomutualist]] <sub>[[User:Anachomutualist/Journal|says:]]</sub> <sup>The state is war, ⓐnarchy is order.</sup> 17:26, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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| | A: It will be useful if you want to carry around an extra stash of items, such as FAKs and Revivification Syringes, or if you are going far away from any resource buildings and need some extra supplies. |
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| |'''Timestamp:''' --[[User:Anachomutualist|Anarchomutualist]] <sub>[[User:Anachomutualist/Journal|says:]]</sub> <sup>The state is war, ⓐnarchy is order.</sup> 02:46, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
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| |'''Description:''' When a generator is destroyed, a fire starts. There are five levels for a fire, going from one to five. A building on fire has this message added to its description: {{udspan|There is a <nowiki>[minscule/small/medium/large/blazing]</nowiki> fire in the building.}} A building on fire cannot be scouted as a safehouse, for obvious reasons. Every action taken in a flaming building takes away 1 HP per level of fire (like a location-based infection; a level 3 fire would take 3 HP per action), except with Fire Safety (see below). Fire increases by one level every 30 minutes. Once the fire passes level 5, the building is ruined. The fire stops, and has a 12.5% chance of spreading to each adjacent building.
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| ====Discussion (Yet another fire suggestion)==== | | ====Discussion (Backpack)==== |
| I'm sure building fire is a dupe. I'll see if I can find it... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:56, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :Yep, it's a [[PR_Malton#Fire.21|dupe]]. Almost as old as the game itself. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 05:17, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :Why thank you Vapor. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 06:04, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
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| ::Yeah, I know. I'm trying to improve the concept by making a better version of Fire. ----[[User:Anachomutualist|Anarchomutualist]] <sub>[[User:Anachomutualist/Journal|says:]]</sub> <sup>The state is war, ⓐnarchy is order.</sup> 00:14, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
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| How do the levels grow? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 02:57, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :Meant to add that. ----[[User:Anachomutualist|Anarchomutualist]] <sub>[[User:Anachomutualist/Journal|says:]]</sub> <sup>The state is war, ⓐnarchy is order.</sup> 00:14, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
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| Does fighting fire grant XP? Fireman class already starts with axe profeciency. Don't take it away. How many uses does a fire extinguisher Have? Nail down the details and don't be too suprised if it is a dupe. I know for sure it has come up in DS before though it didn't leave it. I like the idea of burning buildings but this suggestion needs work. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 03:22, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
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| :Working on it. ----[[User:Anachomutualist|Anarchomutualist]] <sub>[[User:Anachomutualist/Journal|says:]]</sub> <sup>The state is war, ⓐnarchy is order.</sup> 00:14, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
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| Great idea. But annoying to have to carry an extra inventory item - perhaps minscule/small fires wouldn't require an extinguisher. Any bigger and you'd be told that ''fire is too big to put-out without extinguisher'', or whatever.
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| Also, would prefer if extinguishers ran out in a similar way to spray-cans, rather than being one use only. Otherwise, even a skilled-firefighter would require many 'guishers to put out a large fire = annoying to search for, and carry. Stinguishers would be a nice melee weapon addition too.
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| Also fire should increase in size much slower. Every 30 minutes would suck. Perhaps the same rate as ruin-repair. And 3AP to attempt to put-out a fire sounds shitty. Changing % of success surely better than costing more AP.
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| Also what would happen to someone sleeping in a burning building? --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 12:07, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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