Suggestion:20070814 A use for newspapers.

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20070814 A use for newspapers.

Elbowhead at about 23:45, 14 Aug 2007

Suggestion type: Improvement
Suggestion scope: Everyone
Suggestion description
Have you ever spent 25 of your measley 50 ap searching a hospital for precious FAKS only to find a ton of newspapers lying around, and tore significant lumps of hair from your scalp in fustration? What survivor hasn't?

I propose this simple solution to make this situation less annoying and possibly and some humor to the game, Players (Both the alive and the not quite dead) will be able to roll up the newspapers and beat each other with them. This may provide a solution to aggrevated players turning to pking, Imagine you just set up a fairly sucsesful group untill some trenchcoater starts to scent trail dozens of zombies to your hq constantly and half of your group gets bored of perpetually dying and leaves. Now we know talking to these people doesn't work so you can either pack up and move on or give the ******* what he deserves.BAM! before you know it your on the rouges gallery. with this addition you can show your disapproval by hitting him constantly whenever you see him until HE gets frustrated and goes away. Result!

Also, it could have an additional rule which would allow smudging from the ink or bruises which get worse the more your blows hit, making gladatorial style combat possible within groups to settle disputes.

if this suggestion is emplemented it will cost 1 ap to roll up the paper and a further action point to attack with a 50% hit rate, which is unmodified by the hand to hand combat skill and will give no xp. I sincerely beleive that this addition would make a less fustrating and more enjoyable time in UD.

p.s: I realise this may be mistaken as a humerous suggestion but isn't. I would love to see this implemented. Thank you for your time. .

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Keep Votes

1. Keep/Change - I love the idea so much that I will vote Keep just for emotional support. :) Anyway it would be good if you withdrew it and took it to discussion page first. I suspect many people will be happy to help in improving it. And please do not forget to include credits to Evl Kitty and Baldz because I know you read it on the RA forum. -- John Rubin^{T! ZG} 09:12, 15 August 2007 (BST)
2. Keep/Change - This is a relatively good idea, I would most definitely use this an a regular basis with my RPing however I have some reservations about making Newspapers a weapon, to solve this I sugest that there should be a limited amount of set uses for the item, similar to spray cans. Example: 1.a total of 4 uses^{(21% chance of 4 uses)} for players that don't have hand-to-hand combat at a hit rate of 14%, 2.a total of 2-3 uses^{(18% chance of 3 uses)} for players that have hand-to-hand combat^{(without knife combat)} at a hit rate of 17%^{(or +3% for adding H-2-H)}, 3.a total of 1-2 uses^{(11% chance of getting 2 uses)} for players that have hand-to-hand combat with knife combat at a attack rate of 20%^{(or +3% +3%)}.--Morlond ^T•₪ 14:37, 16 August 2007 (BST)
3. Keep/Change - I dispise evryone who wants to kill this idea, can u not see the genious behind this idea. And what fun is it just saying your hitting some one, its nothing like giving some one a good whack in the face. It also costs the same AP as talking. Also you say its not like real life, i hit plenty of people with rolled up news papers its great and very good for strees relieving. This idea is great in my eyes.--User:Evicerater/sig 10:09, 17 August 2007 (BST)
4. Keep - I love it! Really, I love it. I also would like to see this implemented. Reflow 22:20, 31 August 2007 (BST)

Kill Votes

1. Kill - No, 50% hit is a hit, it is also easy xp. Read the newspaper for amusement, they are there for flavor, not effectiveness.--Karek^maps?! 23:48, 14 August 2007 (BST)

   Actually, There will be no xp forgot to mention this, will edit.--Elbowhead 23:58, 14 August 2007 (BST)

   No such thing as no xp combat, you get experience for doing damage changing that messes with game mechanics.--Karek^maps?! 04:34, 15 August 2007 (BST)

2. Kill He said No XP. Anyway it would be good if you withdrew it and took it to discussion page first. It has promise, but no thanks. BoboTalkClown 16:48, 24 August 2007 (BST)
3. Kill - Fixed your suggestion up a bit. Sorry, there will, one day be a use for newspapers, but this is not it.--Seventythree 23:50, 14 August 2007 (BST)
4. Buy one Kill, get one Free! - I found this to be so pointless, that I didn't even finish reading it. --Evildemon989 ^{Talk · Help · W! · P! · SU! · TJ! · Hai!} 00:18, 15 August 2007 (BST)

   The last part is were the actual info is please read that before making a decision. Ignorance is the one thing that truly annoys me.

5. Kill - I see where you are coming from with this: non-lethal combat to help players get out their aggrevations. The concept is admirable, and probably the best part about this suggestion. However, Urban Dead isn't the place where people would roll up newspapers to beat each other with: hundreds of zombies are beating down your barricade, and you want to have a pillow fight? (Newspaper in this case I know). It isn't realistic even within a fictional context. Sorry. --Ryiis 00:31, 15 August 2007 (BST)

   Thank you for actually considering my point and making a fair kill. At least someone saw my point, even if they didn't agree with it.--Elbowhead 00:39, 15 August 2007 (BST)

6. Change -- I can see a place for non-lethal combat in UD. A small niche, admittedly, but still a place. Perhaps groups like the QSG could use this as a 'first warning' before resorting to good old-fashioned violence. Take this idea to Talk:Suggestions and develop it. -- Pavluk 00:42, 15 August 2007 (BST)
7. Change - Make it so that you can wipe your ass with it and I'll vote keep. --Sonny Corleone ^{RRF CoL DORIS CRF pr0n} 03:56, 15 August 2007 (BST)
8. Kill - Whatever.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 10:25, 15 August 2007 (BST)
9. Change - Nice rough idea. Now take this to the discussions page and come back with something more feasible. --Anotherpongo 10:51, 15 August 2007 (BST)
10. Kill - 50% static hit rate? --Midianian 11:16, 15 August 2007 (BST)
11. Change - As Sonny --Dipcup 14:51, 15 August 2007 (BST)
12. Kill not quite spam. if someone tics ya off just slap the @#$%!!!(aka, punch for 1 damage) --Jack13 14:35, 15 August 2007

Spam/Dupe Votes

#Spam - Ever spend 2 of your measley 1440 minutes reading through a suggestion only to find it inane and pointless? We already have no less than ten useless melee weapons, now you're proposing one which doesn't seem to even cause damage. -- Pavluk 00:04, 15 August 2007 (BST) Category changed by voter. Pavluk 00:42, 15 August 2007 (BST)

1. I used to play runescape at a younger age (then I grew up) but I saw how popular the rubber chicken was with it's non-violent combant, and if it worked in that noobish hell, It could feasably work here.--Elbowhead 00:20, 15 August 2007 (BST)

   Ok, I get your point now. Must admit, the description's a little confusing. Didn't realise this was intentionally non-damaging. I've changed my vote accordingly. -- Pavluk 00:42, 15 August 2007 (BST)

2. Spam/Dupe - i'm not in mood to search for link, so i'll stop with the Spam option. Use ignore options and newspapers won't annoy you --~~~~_T^''' 07:39, 15 August 2007 (BST)
3. Spam - I like the intent... but the not the implimentation... perhaps rubber chickens would be a better idea... or.... BANANAS! :P --WanYao 11:23, 15 August 2007 (BST)
4. Spam - I don't even understand what this is supposed to do, other than letting you hit PKers with newspapers instead of killing them, which seems to be the norm. Clean it up, and have it make more sense. --Saluton 17:04, 15 August 2007 (BST)
5. Spam - I think I understand this. It's not COMPLETELY without merit, but I don't think it's usefull enough to justify it's existence. Besides, you can just tell people you're hitting them with a newspaper by RPing it, like this- *Whacks annoyingpker with rolled up newspaper.* Costs you less AP, as many as 50 people will see you say it, and you don't have to clutter your inventory with a newspaper. --Steakfish 00:13, 16 August 2007 (BST)
6. Spam - Like everyone says you can already block newspapers and if you want in-game RP battles, I suggest you try and start a bar fight and punch people in your group... --Marie^{The Grove on Tour} 13:23, 16 August 2007 (BST)