Talk:Block Party

During Event Discussion

First, thanks Gnome for the updates (community projects and the status map). I had considered some type of update, but I was thinking something based on 2-3 days rather than daily (although I'd certainly be open to any stories or updates that are "interesting" (such as: prolonged fighting for buildings, or really anything neat or impressive from either side). At the moment, I'm waiting to see if survivors push back against the opening zombie TRP grab. I figure if everything is in balance, buildings should swing between zombies and survivors, and I want to give survivors a chance, before using expansion as a fix since it contradicts the original goal. However, everyone being dead would also contradict the goal, so there is that. All that said, I'm there as a zombie, so although I have an idea how survivors are doing I don't have the level of interaction some of you may. If the area needs enlarged, let me know. Also, if there is a common frequency(s) being used, please (whoever) feel free to add it somewhere on the main page. --_K 14:59, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Well, I've been scouting around and reviving (although only PKers for the moment). We will see if I catch anything interesting. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:04, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

A significant proportion of the suburb is now in ruins. Still, it's not a party without widespread desolation, so I recommend people head for the south-west of Roftwood, because it's not so bad there. Come on, this is kinda what we wanted - an actual zombie apocalypse! --Jerden 20:42, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

While I agree, we want some desolation (crazy right, zombies in a zombie apocalypse game). I'd like to keep it from being too one-sided in either direction. I've expanded an additional 2 blocks around Roftwood, and said do whatever you need to get needles (no one likes waiting on revives). That said, I'm hoping the event doesn't pass without some type of siege. Obviously holding a single building doesn't work (see Blackmore), it's too easy to amass zombies; but hopefully we'll end with something where multiple NTs (or whatever) are held by dedicated/coordinated groups. I've got my fingers crossed some of these larger survivors groups can rally others and will stand and fight (if for no reason other than to help empty ruins for repair). --_K 21:16, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure if the location was the best idea. Partying right next to Ridelybank? Tempting fate and underestimating the zobies of Malton. Still, we're enjoying the block party now, there's still a few survivors left to hunt. --Jerden 18:47, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

The Wulves are now functioning with an expanded Map of the event per the dialogue above. Here it is for the record: http://map.dssrzs.org/select/6449595370556260

Hope that helps. --Belisarius17 02:20, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Older conversations

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I certainly do have some thoughts. I figured we could set out a suburb, preferably a corner 'burb so we actually do have two walls to keep a play area... and play the game while keeping within the suburb area. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:30, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

I'd certainly be up for change. I do want an area with plenty of TRPs (and ideally 2 malls). Have you (or anyone else) any specific thoughts? And would a central location or a border or corner location be more appealing? Not sure if a local zombie population is necessary, but having one nearby eliminates half the advertising need. --_K 20:56, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Dulston seems to be a good candidate. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:21, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

If you're looking for two malls, Penny Heights comes to mind (Lumber Mall, Joachim Mall.) It borders the east of the city, too. -- ^{(stalk · KT · FoD · UU)} 00:08, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Dulston sucks and is so safe there's no point in survivors going there. Same for PH (except it doesn't suck). Do the middle of the map idea. Easier for people to get there in one day of travelling and it's more dangerous. A ZOMBIE ANT 01:12, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

I vote Roftwood then. A corner has its trade-offs although we have two no effort borders if we really want things to keep contained. Spreading out would defeat the purpose. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:42, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

What about dunnel hills? That could only end well. A ZOMBIE ANT 04:10, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

I'd personally vote for seeing a second Ridleybank. While I know that Ridleybank could NEVER be replicated for the amount of time it has had its infamy, I'd like to see a safe suburb be smashed and completely destroyed for a long time. I think I have been seeing this too much from a zed perspective (as that is where my bias for bringing an alt in lies at the moment,) hence my leaning towards 'burbs that are fairly safe/"in survivor hands". PH (from the latter half of last year anyway) wasn't exactly -too- safe, it could have been a yellow 'burb, with how often incursions happened, and how large they generally were (it's also close enough to the then- "ruinclad" Fryerbank, which might have helped that.) I levelled both PKer and zed alts in PH (but not at the same time) because of the relative balance - there are always survivors and zombies I can heal for the quick XP (before killing the survivors off when I had enough skills to my name.)
Among the other suggestions, I think I like Roftwood. My voice is insignificant, and I accept that, but I prefer to start out in a more balanced suburb, than in a place already skewed towards survivors or zombies. Then hopefully, I'd see it fall over to the zed side for a decent amount of time (even a month would make me happy, but hopefully longer.) -- ^{(stalk · KT · FoD · UU)} 09:54, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

I also tried to show this proposal to other people, and this was what someone had to say: "[D]on't forget though, it is going to have a flame back effect. Basically, the locals in the burb they end up choosing for their 'event" will not all be happy about it and as before, allot of the participants will be left behind in the burb after the event, possibly changing the burb permanently." As my above comment, I initially wasn't in favor of having it in a place that was already a ghost town (mind you, I'm not referring to a "reverse" ghost town,) but I can see why Dunell Hills makes a good candidate.
To further quote the person who does not participate in the Wiki that I discussed this with: "But yes, to clarify what I was trying to say above, I think the blockparty should rather bring life to a dead area instead of possibly messing with the dynamics in a "working" area, I fear some people might just quit if their way of life gets disrubted (sic) [...] I am one of those who would like the change of pace, but I kinda feel that in this, all participants need to be there by choice...."
This PoV might also have to be considered in choosing a 'burb; I realize that it's better to bring survivors and zeds to an empty, ruined 'burb, rather than to a place that is still fully operational (besides, PKing people in "safe" burbs is a little more fun than making them quit permanently over a change in conditions, imo.) -- ^{(stalk · KT · FoD · UU)} 10:21, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

At the risk of pissing someone off just by posting about Dunell Hills, May I point out that as of this moment there is only one ruined building (The Dury Building) and the truly active Zombie population (28) is almost equaled by the active Survivor population (21). --Conndraka^{TAZM CFT} 14:49, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Huh. Things have changed in just two months, it seems. -- ^{(stalk · KT · FoD · UU)} 03:35, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

All said on the subject of location, I still lean toward Roftwood. Dunell Hills lacks the needed malls. Penny Heights lacks the organized zombies nearby. Plus the better scatter options actually help. As for the current residents, I hope to not really change the day to day activity, just have it include larger numbers. Events tend to impose on someone and it'll be more likely to keep a contested suburb contested (assuming an representative number of participants from each side). --_K 01:59, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

You're right on Penny Heights' zeds mostly being ferals. While there was an organized zed group there, they moved on to another 'burb after a while. How do you feel about "free running lane" quality in the desired location? Would it be better to look for a place with "breaks" in the lanes like Peddlesden Village (Not that I endorse the 'burb as a whole; it's too quiet,) or a place with most locations being accessible to the free running network? I'm convinced of your view of not wanting to change the day-to-day activity on of whatever 'burb gets chosen, now.-- ^{(stalk · KT · FoD · UU)} 03:35, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

So, these are the options people are suggesting.

• Roftwood
• 14x14 area around Roftwood
• Peddlesden Village
• Dulston
• Dunell Hills
• Penny Heights

Which one(s) are we leaning to? Vote? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:39, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

I'd vote Roft or the enlarged Roft area. The extra squares are just to pick up some extra NTs and a second mall. My second would be Penny Heights (FU is close at least). As for Dunell Hills/Peddleston Village, I'd rather shift over to Chudleyton (also a ghost town) and pick up that mall. Dulston does have the infrastructure and it is a corner, but I've always associated it with boring. All that said, I'd like the event to be as community driven as possible so I'm game for wherever. --_K 02:11, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

It's Kirsty's creation, I'd suggest pitching your ideas and letting her decide. Don't take over it and ruin it with votes. A ZOMBIE ANT 03:24, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Dunnell Hills and Peddlesden are honestly kinda boring right now, and you'd have a hard time getting several of the survivor groups involved, since they just wrapped up missions in the DMZ. That's why the place is generally as intact as it is. We were honestly hoping we might be able to incite a third March of the Dead, since this sort of mission was how the last March got started, but we essentially got no pushback from The Dead at all. Rather disappointing, and considering several of the remaining major survivor groups just burnt ourselves out on the place, you'll find very little interest, I'd wager.

Likewise, Chudleyton is a ghost town because it's such a pushover. 2-3 survivors and a few days is generally all you need to retake the whole suburb, minus Caiger Mall. Why bother fighting over a suburb that you can reclaim at a whim? Even The Dead tend to not pay much attention to Chudleyton, despite ostensibly being in the DMZ.

Dulston's name says it all. It's dull. It might be more fun with more people there, but the place has never made a good impression on me.

Roftwood is generally fun, but you lose the boundaries. Even so, it may work out. And I can't speak for or against Penny Heights, since my only experience there in the last few years has been as part of the Big Bash, so I'll leave that to others. —Aichon— 16:10, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

My preference is the Roftwood area. It's not the end of the world if things bleed a little "out of bounds"; the idea is to confine things to a small area, right? So we don't need hard borders, just an incentive to stay around. Penny Heights could be interesting too, though. Could leave it up to Kirsty, as DDR suggests.^ --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:51, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Also, apologies for said voting would ruin it. I meant it may ruin it for Kirsty... You get the idea. A ZOMBIE ANT 11:36, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm happy with voting. Right now, it's looking like Roft is leading based on the few opinion expressed. Given anywhere is going to have some drawbacks, it seems to offer the most advantages and no more drawbacks than anywhere else. I will probably try to make some type decision by the 14th; so I can start advertising on the 15th. I'm leaning to starting on July 15, and I figure I need about 2 weeks to do any meaningful advertising. --_K 15:12, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

I'd suggest ultimately leaving it up to Kirsty, since it's their idea, but I'm liking that enlarged Roftwood area. Sure, having a hard border is convenient (i.e. almost every other mentioned burb, barring Chudleyton and Roftwood,) but I don't think it'll be completely necessary as long as the "playing field" is marked clearly/if there is enough motivation for participants to stay within bounds.

I kind of forgot to mention FU being close enough to PH, if it does get chosen.

I mentioned Peddlesden but it wasn't a serious suggestion -- it was more of me asking if there was a preference for the burb having a "natural break" in the free running lanes, or otherwise. I mean, Peddlesden always struck me as boring, even if that break had HUGE potential. -- ^{(stalk · KT · FoD · UU)} 01:17, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Well, this is interesting.

I'm all kinds of interested in this sort of thing, and at least another person from a group I'm in likes the idea -- the question is whether we'd be coming in as the survivor group, or as the zed group (though I'm slightly leaning towards the latter, myself. Not sure about everyone else in said group.)
I already like the particular 14 x 14 block you chose, but AHLG has a good point about a corner 'burb -- two of the "boundaries" would be much less ambiguous than your chosen grid, but I feel like your choice is slightly more interesting to play in.
I can probably assist with some advertisement efforts (among others;) I know a few returning players who have been looking for something to do. Who knows, it might be something to their interests! (P.S. You rock for this proposal!) -- ^{(stalk · KT · FoD · UU)} 08:27, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Sweet. I love a good, ambitious event. A ZOMBIE ANT 14:59, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

I know that I'm pretty insignificant, and my character's just a local nutcase, but I think Jerden will certainly attend, as it sounds like fun and it's right next door anyway. I'll see if I can do some advertising for it, I just need a lot of spray cans. PKer, pro survivor, zombie, I'll do whatever role I end up in, but most likely zombie, as the chance to get me in the same suburb for a month will appeal nicely to many people in the area. --Jerden 20:52, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

All hail Jerden! --_K 01:18, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

To-Do list:

Graffiti is going well, I'm about 70% done or so. On the subject of forums, I have no desire to canvas all of them, I can handle barhah (as I have an account), would someone(s) with accounts on them be willing to hit up the rg, brainstock, and (possibly) resens? I lack or cannot remember passwords to those sites. If no one does within a week or so, I'll make some new accounts. However, since I only need to make one post, it seems kind of silly. As for the actual message, I can provide one or whoever can just make their own (at this point gnome has done the best description of the event under community projects just steal from him when in doubt). --_K 20:51, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Some groups I want to specifically invite:

Abandoned

DHPD

FoD

The Fortress

Knights Templar

MOB

PK

RRF

SoC

FU

ACC

CtD

Radio advertising list: (if you have made advert broadcasts on any of the listed channels please unstrike thru them and note the type, thanks)

blast: single line, tag line and tiny url
advert: 3+ broadcasts with full url and tiny url (district channels and possibly malls only)

26.01 MHz - NW-1: Chudleyton, Darvall Heights, Eastonwood, East Becktown, Gatcombeton

26.02 MHz - NW-2: Dakerstown, Jensentown, Judgewood, Quarlesbank, Roywood

26.03 MHz - NW-3: Brooke Hills, East Boundwood, Shuttlebank, West Boundwood, Yagoton

26.04 MHz - NW-4: Dunell Hills, Molebank, Owsleybank, Peddlesden Village, West Becktown

26.05 MHz - NW-5: Barrville, Havercroft, Ketchelbank, Lukinswood, Richmond Hills

26.06 MHz - NE-1: Gibsonton, Heytown, Huntley Heights, Pashenton, Santlerville

26.07 MHz - NE-2: Chancelwood, Earletown, Lamport Hills, Millen Hills, Raines Hills

26.08 MHz - NE-3: Dulston, Dunningwood, Pescodside, Rhodenbank, Rolt Heights

26.09 MHz - NE-4: Pimbank, Randallbank, Ridleybank, Roachtown, Shearbank

26.10 MHz - NE-5: Paynterton, Peppardville, Pitneybank, Spracklingbank, Starlingtown

26.11 MHz - SW-1: Greentown, Lockettside, North Blythville, South Blythville, Wykewood

26.12 MHz - SW-2: Crooketon, Grigg Heights, Lerwill Heights, Mornington, Reganbank

26.13 MHz - SW-3: Brooksville, Galbraith Hills, Mockridge Heights, Shore Hills, Tapton

26.14 MHz - SW-4: Foulkes Village, New Arkham, Nixbank, Old Arkham, Ruddlebank

26.15 MHz - SW-5: Buttonville, Dartside, Kinch Heights, Spicer Hills, Williamsville

26.16 MHz - SE-1: Crowbank, Gulsonside, Osmondville, Scarletwood, Wray Heights

26.17 MHz - SE-2: Edgecombe, Shackleville, Stanbury Village, Roftwood, Tollyton

26.18 MHz - SE-3: Dentonside, Houldenbank, Pegton, Penny Heights, Vinetown

26.19 MHz - SE-4: East Grayside, Hollomstown, Kempsterbank, West Grayside, Wyke Hills

26.20 MHz - SE-5: Danversbank, Fryerbank, Miltown, Pennville, Whittenside

26.24 MHz - Woodbury -- Wyke Hills

26.27 MHz - Dowdney Mall

26.28 MHz - Calvert Mall

26.34 MHz - Mitchem Mall

26.43 MHz - Soldiers of Crossman

26.45 MHz - Radio Williamsville

26.46 MHz - Blesley Mall

26.58 MHz - CAPD

26.59 MHz - Treweeke Mall

26.61 MHz - The Abandoned

26.63 MHz - Hildebrand Mall

26.70 MHz - Giddings Mall

26.71 MHz - Nichols Mall

26.77 MHz - Tynte Mall

26.80 MHz - Stickling Mall

26.82 MHz - Pole Mall

26.83 MHz - Woodroffe Mall

26.84 MHz - Buckley Mall

26.91 MHz - The Know Nothings

26.99 MHz - Upper Left Corner

27.11 MHz - Joachim Mall and Lumber Mall

27.15 MHz - Mall Distress Frequency

27.19 MHz - The Malton Zookeepers

27.20 MHz - Tompson Mall

27.26 MHz - Malton College of Medicine

27.28 MHz - Richmond Hills Regulars

27.35 MHz - Caiger Mall

27.49 MHz - Bale Mall

27.50 MHz - Ackland Mall

27.53 MHz - Earletown

27.99 MHz - Marven Mall

28.00 MHz - Calvert Mall

28.01 MHz - spam

28.02 MHz - Special Event Network

28.03 MHz - Mall Status Reports

28.04 MHz - Buttonville/Wyke Hills

28.66 MHz - PK Alert Channel

28.70 MHz - The Fortress

28.74 MHz - Malton College of Medicine

28.99 MHz - Radio Free Creedy

short url: tiny.cc/UDParty2014

So, I have previously (for a very short period) actually gotten to play Urban Dead. Sure, Survivors in Wonderland is a fun game, unless you aren't a survivor who enjoys barricade maintenance or refueling generators or a zombie in a major horde, but I'd like to play Urban Dead and maybe someone else does too. So, the idea goes basically like this:

Invite everyone to send a single alt to a specific location: I like this (a 14x14 area), but only because of two malls and a known horde (the RRF) nearby. No goal, no specific purpose other than to actually get to play a zombie game. The event would run for 1 month.

What would be needed (I think) for it to work:

• Recruiting some large survivor groups to join to ensure speedy revives. Fast revives are a must to keep survivors enjoying themselves. Zombies will come.
• Convincing enough players to come to the area. Empty buildings for zombies or no zombies to shoot for survivors would certainly defeat the purpose.
• Convincing a large enough number of players to switch to the losing side, as needed, to ensure neither side wins. (or expand as needed to keep survivors alive)
• Advertising (wiki page, in-game, some forum possibly).
• Convincing some sucker(s) to share in the work.

Pre-event volunteer opportunities:

• In-game radio broadcast and graffiti (once everything is set)
• Wiki coding (I can do some basic stuff, but having someone who has more style would be nice)
• Forum advertising (I'm on maybe 2 forums that are still used, would be nice to hit: brainstock, rg, resens)
• Are you in a large survivor group? See what they think and post on the talk page.

During-event volunteer opportunities:

• Revives (ask Schwan about TBP)
• Suburb updating (check with the existing mass updaters)
• IRC lurking
• Border graffiti

Thoughts?

--_K 15:37, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Start grafitting, people! A ZOMBIE ANT 00:10, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

I'll let my own little corner of the world know. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:37, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

I'll get the word to the DHPD --Conndraka^{TAZM CFT} 04:32, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Likewise, I let the SoC higher-ups know to expect an invite, though I don't know what our response will be just yet. We're in the middle of something else at the moment, but I'd anticipate it wrapping up by the start date for Block Party. —Aichon— 14:31, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

The moment I saw this page, I already made a post to inform the rest of the Knights Templar about it. I've yet to cover the IRC/non-forum people, though, but I've also informed people who aren't part of the KT to join.
Since I do have an alt with the FoD, as well as a recently revived rotter itching for some action, I'm still deciding on what to do. I'm really leaning to bringing my zed in, but it depends on how many survivor groups will join (if there are too many of them, I'll push for the zed group to join, instead.) I'm also up for any assistance needed on the advertising front, even if the Block Party itself begins a day after I return to uni. -- ^{(stalk · KT · FoD · UU)} 04:52, 13 June 2014 (UTC) http://wiki.urbandead.com/skins/common/images/button_sig.png Do we / should we have a dedicated radio freq. for this event? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 20:57, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Excellent question. I have no idea how willing folks are to change their radios or carry an extra? I've used them for advertising due to their reach, but I've gone the route of seeking an audience rather than having one seek me. Special events 28.02 seems to fit, but it's within the public band, which may or may not be good. Plus does anyone listen to what I assume is a little used frequency. (As a side note: apparently I think someone does as it's in my list).--_K 01:26, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

28.02 would do. If we wanted to give updates during the event, a radio is one way to do it. That's if we have a reason to give updates. (I don't know.) --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 02:57, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

We might have to update if the area needs expanded. I plan just do it via wiki though, but I could hit the radio, too. During event we might be better using the district frequency, since those seem to be the more used frequencies. --_K 15:16, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

IRC?

I'm not much of a lurker, I tend to pop on and back off. That said, if anyone (looking at groups) would be willing to invite the public to their IRC channel or a temporary IRC channel, that would be great. Just let me know here and I'll set up a section on the front page. Also, if anyone wants their forum listed likewise, let me know and we'll make it happen (probably). --_K 21:15, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Confirmed to attend

DHPD- --Conndraka^{TAZM CFT} 16:18, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! See you there. --_K 22:08, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Wulves Roftwood Team: Assemble! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPpiCdt5aC8&feature=kp --Belisarius17 03:46, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Sweet. See you fellows there. --_K 20:52, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Zombiefark will be summering in Greenhow NT. The brochure says Roftwood is the Martha's Vineyard of Malton, but with more Dead Kennedys. We're hoping this will be better than our Christmas in Cambodia. --Bo Diaz 17:17, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Moar zombies are always good. Also, Pol...pot. --_K 20:52, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Soldiers of Crossman will be coming once they wrap up their current thing. —Aichon— 14:37, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Awesome! --_K 15:16, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

This sounds awesome! I'm definitely coming with one of my characters. --__/Storm\___ «^^^» 01:05, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

oooooh a block party. i like parties. and its right next door, easy stumble home. --Lo'bo 03:56, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Post-event discussion

My experience started near the middle of Roftwood, it was already half trashed and it got worse within a few days, I spent the next weeks idle in the surrounding suburbs and then gave up on reviving fallen survivors and left, eventually.

From what I was able to witness, I'd consider this event a bit of a failure (from a survivor POV). Not because anyone was specifically at fault, but I think in retrospect the location might have been a bit off. I think it would have had a lot more potential in an overwhelmingly safe area, or at least, a relatively safe area for survivors, and any zombies who come obviously will trash what they can. It provides survivors and PKers their own playground, for talking, roleplaying, killing etc. while also allowing zombie groups to have a bit of fun and influence the event themselves. Kind of like Escape, in a way.

When I say failure, I just mean I didn't have as much fun as I expected, but it was alright. All it does is make me excited to give feedback on what we learned so we might be able to have a sequel somewhere down the track. A ZOMBIE ANT 14:48, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

I certainly agree the location was off. My concern, foolishly now, was there being enough zombies. I do think a central location is good, but there are certainly areas fairly central that would survive better. I did want to avoid a survivor and pker event with zombies on the side, but it turned more into a massacre there at first and in the end (there was a 10 day or so window of either zombies pulling out or survivors making a return). I think the lack of a official survivor radio channel was also detrimental. --_K 16:52, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

That's a very good observation, an official radio channel is a great idea. A ZOMBIE ANT 00:30, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

I would call it a success in the sense that it gave me more to do than what has been going on for the past few years. If we do this again, we should figure out a way to keep the play area from getting so trashed. This would definitely be worth another go at some point. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 16:54, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

I hope this doesn't seem like a typical survivor position, but I wouldn't mind the idea of "nice location, let's see if any zombie hordes can trash it" A ZOMBIE ANT 00:30, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

I knew as soon as I showed up that it was foolish to have any expectations of the party zone not being overrun. The whole thing felt wrong from the start, or maybe just a little naive. That's not to say I don't think the Block Party was a good idea, it was, and I enjoyed it. I just don't know how practical it is to keep the area from getting too trashed. It's no secret that any pack of zombies large enough to drag survivors into the streets will exhaust the resources of a much larger group of survivors. Hunter S Thompson 02:11, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

I enjoyed seeming some real action for a change, but it wasn't as great as I'd hoped it could be. I wonder whether a "purpose" might have made it better? As a survivor, it felt like my only task we to not die (too much) and revive when I could. All with the added constraint of sticking to a specific area. However, if it was more like a "capture the flag" style thing - e.g. Try and keep these 5 buildings free from zombies - that would create a different feel. It would totally remove the "stay in this area" constraint, so survivors could easily retreat to the nearest hospital / NT / etc, and would shift from a "run and hide" apporach to a "try and win" approach. I do fear that the zombies would win too easily though, perhaps the selected buildings could change every 48 hours or so... (Kludge 00:17, 18 August 2014 (UTC))

While I was there it was just the old inter-group dynamics as elsewhere in Malton and was PKd more than bit. Perhaps next time it could be done with level 5 survivor Alts and level 10 Zombies (or some other level handicap to be determined later) with nondescript names. Might be a bit longer in the set up so people could have the right alts ready. Other than this and the suggestions above I dont know how to make it more entertaining for the survivor populace at large with out it becoming (Disney's newest attraction)Trench-coat land. This was a good event but it was just a little too much "Uncle Buck's Brains and Bullet-hole buffet".--Conndraka^{TAZM CFT} 03:16, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Even from the zombie perspective (which I almost entirely played from, because I couldn't be bothered to waste time at a revive points) it wasn't very fun. It was too easy, a horde could just roll in from Rideleybank and ruin the suburb. However, this was a great idea. In fact, it still is, and I would come again. Don't worry about zombies next year, I'm sure they'll come as soon as they find out, so try somewhere safer and see what happens. Hopefully it will take a while for the horde to arrive and get started, allowing plenty of conflict and entertainment for both sides. --Jerden 19:39, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

I've seen similar sentiment other places. I think there might be something to making it less do whatever and more goal oriented for survivors. Also, safer, yes definitely. --_K 22:21, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

I showed up with an enormous stack of needles, FAKs, and fuel cans, and I had fun for about half of it. PKerism was rampant and without the RG to catalog the attacks it was hard to know who to trust. There were times the main revive queue was 10 long or more with nearly all suspected PKers or rotters. Many revivees were dead again within the day. I know some organized groups did attend but I really didn't notice much co-ordinated survivor action. As was noted before, a dedicated radio frequency might have helped a little. P.F. 01:35, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

thank you for throwing such a great party, kirsty cotton. while i certainly enjoyed myself, and i have no complaints, i would like to apologize for those who waited forever in line for a revive. i was not the only one doing the reviving, and i am very grateful for that. the issue at hand in this case is that rotters were standing in revive points and were intentionally blocking needles and dna scans and preventing people from getting revived. unless there is a way around this, i do not think it was fair for the rotters to do that to the people who wanted a revive. -- 07:47, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

An official "block party" 'revive-request form' might help with that (echoing sentiments of a general lack of survivor coordination).Hunter S Thompson 21:09, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

In conclusion

I've given it some thought and then forgot about it, thought some more, forgot again. So, with "brevity": advertising in-game works well, having no goal for survivors doesn't, avoid zombie homeland type areas. On the problems, possibly a border suburb with a mall and low zombie population might be best (buttonville?); as for survivors I think that is a bit more complicated. I hate forums, but some general IRC hang out might be good (and for zombies, too) and find volunteers, ideally in survivor groups, to be in-game leaders. Survivors are stupid (sorry survivors), but there are too many different things to do, they need some direction. So there is it. Next time, survivor leaders and less zombies. --_K 03:43, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Somewhat surprisingly, I don't think the main issue with survivors was a coordination problem this time around (an issue which has plagued them at many events in the past), so much as it was simply a matter of the event being stacked against them without any of us realizing it until it was too late.

I was there as a PKer, so I didn't know what the SoC was up to until afterwards, but in talking it over and scanning back through the various logs we keep, I discovered that the SoC realized fairly early on that they had no hope of holding the whole suburb with their numbers, so they instead turned to dirtnaps and other low-key, trans-human tactics to keep the revives steady while also barricade strafing to keep the repair costs low. And it's my recollection that I did see evidence of that sort of activity taking place while I was there, though I didn't realize what they were up to at the time (e.g. after several days of easy pickings for me as a PKer, the SoC folks all disappeared suddenly...shortly after that, random pockets of buildings would be repaired each day and barricaded to VSB, but I couldn't find anyone around that I was interested in killing).

I haven't followed up with the other survivors (i.e. DHPD) to see what they were up to, but between the survivors being horribly outnumbered and the zombies having wrecked the suburb in advance of the event's start date (which surprised and delighted me, I have to say, though it ended up hurting things in the end), there really wasn't much to be done, other than switch out tactics and treat it as if it was a March of the Dead sort of thing that just needed to be endured. It sounds like they actually had a fun time at it, since it had been awhile since they'd had a chance to really frolic around in ruins. Even so, for me as a PKer, the pickings were pretty slim, though I did get a chance to chit-chat with a few zombies from the RRF (mostly monologues, really), which is always fun. :) —Aichon— 04:45, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Well, I spent some time as both survivor and zombie. I went survivor once everything was wrecked. I guess from my point of view, it would have been great if unaffiliated survivors knew "go talk to xxxx with SoC, they have a plan". So, with more verbosity, the goal of survivor leaders would be direct all survivors to a common goal, possibly divide the suburb into areas which different group maintain, and give survivors sort of a rallying point. I have to think morale would benefit from someone, who lets be honest, gets killed everyday and pops back up to lead the cause. As organizer, I took a hands off approach, but in retrospect the options for survivors are numerous (cade, revive, FAK, clear), zombies not so much (kill). All that said, nothing would have stopped it from being a massacre in roftwood, but I think so on the ground leadership is needed or it becomes a massacre anywhere. --_K 12:49, 11 October 2014 (UTC)