Talk:Malton Uprising

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This is Worthless...

What do you think killing a bunch of DEM members and putting up anti-DEM propaganda will solve? Do you really think the DEM is going to disband because a few of the members get killed? I've been killed loads of times, and guess what I do? I get back up, get revived, and get back to my work.--SirArgo ^Talk 20:57, 26 August 2008 (BST)

What do you think killing a bunch of CGR comrades and putting up anti-rebel propaganda will solve? Do you really think the CGR is going to disband because a few of our comrades get killed? I've been BHed loads of times, and guess what I do? I get back up, get revived, and get back to killing DEM members. --Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||22:09, 26 August 2008 (BST)

i loled --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS MSD pr0n} 22:16, 26 August 2008 (BST)

Ditto. :) (err...to both the lol and the sentiment) --Jen 22:41, 26 August 2008 (BST)

Did I say you had to disband? No! I don't care if you have a group who hates the DEM and tries to kill us at every turn, you have every right to hate whoever you want. I just don't see why you have to create huge "uprising" to destroy the DEM, when you know it won't do anything. I think you just enjoy huge group warfare and don't give a damn about the survivors struggle at all. Just my opinion, I brace for the flaming...--SirArgo ^Talk 05:40, 27 August 2008 (BST)

You can think whatever the hell you want, but just wait till the Uprising comes to judge it. --Alphy 15:53, 27 August 2008 (BST)

What's to judge? MANL's just another small, forgettable PK group in a game with dozens of small, forgettable PK groups. If you bag two DEM members each on 9/9 you might crack a double-digit tally for the day. If anyone outside MANL is actually interested in being part of this (which I doubt), you might get a dozen or so people scattered across the city randomly killing DEM members. That's not gonna be noticed against the background noise of zombie break-ins, bounties, and regular PKs that go on every single day. This is going to be a "succesful" anti-DEM operation in the same way the Gibsonton Nationals were. Turkmenbashi 16:17, 27 August 2008 (BST)

Turkmenbashi you underestimate the amount of players that will join in but you are right in the fact that the DEM will not be destroyed by such an uprising. This is why i am suggesting that everyone involved with the uprising converge to one suburb and complely rid it of the DEM members within its borders. We can then hold onto the suburb from counterattacks by the DEM which will certainly come. In this way we can truly start to destroy the DEM. The only problem is deciding upon the suburb to converge. Brian Vesty 17:18, 27 August 2008 (BST)

That probably won't work either. First thing; 100 suburbs, they can simply relocate temporarily (if they even notice). Second: Why would they counter-attack, they'll just let bounty hunters take care of that. Yes, if you wipe out all DEM members in an area you might avoid the fact that it goes entirely unnoticed as Turk points out. But in all likelihood the DEM won't really register any attack as anything more than a regular day at the office. - User:Whitehouse 17:25, 27 August 2008 (BST)

Do you have to bold at least one sentence in everything you write?--Labine50 ^{MEMS | MHG} 20:57, 27 August 2008 (BST)

So this is, what, the Big Bash for PKers specifically geared against members of the DEM? You'd have better directed your energies creating positive propaganda for other existant groups. Or for a more organized effort, try tying multiple groups that already target the DEM (for whatever reason). This all stems from this image. "If you're not with us, you're dead" isn't exactly the message you want to send to players. Pakopako 18:35, 27 August 2008 (BST)

tl;dr

It's a picture of police brutality. You know. Like the LAPD is sometimes accused of? And it reads: "You're either with us or you're DEM" (not dead) for reference. --Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||20:33, 27 August 2008 (BST)

It should have been "You're either with us or you're with DEM", because then it would sound like "With them" and people might think you are clever or something.--Labine50 ^{MEMS | MHG} 20:57, 27 August 2008 (BST)

Couldn't see the image while I was typing and for some reason you omitted the "with" while explaining your cleverness to Pako.--Labine50 ^{MEMS | MHG} 21:00, 27 August 2008 (BST)

How does posting those pictures prove a damn thing about the DEM? They are just random scenes of real life killings and cruelties with poorly pasted anti-DEM slogans on them. I thought the uprising was against the DEM's supposed propaganda postings, and yet you put shit like that up! This whole event is one giant hypocritical morons club!--SirArgo ^Talk 21:13, 27 August 2008 (BST)

Then you should upload over my pictures or complain loudly like Sonny used to and get them removed. --Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||21:21, 27 August 2008 (BST)

Thank you for proving you are a troll, here to just fight. You really don't give a care about the survivor cause.--SirArgo ^Talk 21:22, 27 August 2008 (BST)

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Malton_Uprising#Instructions

I didn't even mention DEM propoganda. I mentioned sprays. --Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||21:25, 27 August 2008 (BST)

Crusade '08 I'm already preparing my next project after the DEM is finally dead. It's open invitation. --Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||21:27, 27 August 2008 (BST)

Just tell me how posting those pictures helps out your cause? It only makes you guys look bad!--SirArgo ^Talk 21:33, 27 August 2008 (BST)

A: It doesn't help. LISTEN TO THE MAN!

Also, Paokopako has a point about the "you're either with us or you're with DEM" poster. Doesn't matter if it says "death" or not, because that's what it still implies. It's saying "you're either with us, or our enemy." And that's utter BS, not to mention one of those same false dichotomies you're supposedly opposing. (Or something like that). People could legitimately hate both you folks AND the DEM, you know. *rolls eyes* The inherent contradiction ain't worth the amusement of the DEM/"them" similarity. --Jen 21:46, 27 August 2008 (BST)

So the reason for him putting those pictures up is that, as I have stated before and you kinda stated now (I hope I didn't misunderstand you. I don't want to put words in your mouth) is that he doesn't really care about survivors in general. That makes me think he just hates them DEM for some reason and this whole thing is just a personal vendetta that he is trying to attract recruits for so he can carry it out.--SirArgo ^Talk 21:49, 27 August 2008 (BST)

I don't presume to judge motives here, only tactics. He may just have a grudge against the DEM, or he may indeed think that destroying the DEM will somehow lead to a better Malton for all survivors. Maybe both. But in either case, if one DOES desire to turn folks against the DEM, I don't think those particular posters are a smart way to do it. At all. --Jen 22:30, 27 August 2008 (BST)

Then the original purpose of the piece was lost on the reader. And we do have a bunch others to look at...

"Everyone is entitled to their own interpretation of art." -Paraphrased from Dee Snider

The piece symbolizes that you're either the opressor or the opressed.

This piece symbolizes the blinding suffering of the victims of the DEM and the mind numbing cruelty of the opressors.

--Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||02:13, 28 August 2008 (BST)

I thought it was a mexican baby. Oops. Anyway, as long as the malton uprising says "our goal is to kill dem" then they can't fail. It's the same tactic that the DA used in Gibsonton. "As long as you're vague and show no opening for losses then you automatically win." Of course no one else will listen. But cheers --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS MSD pr0n} 02:37, 28 August 2008 (BST)

RG: Scoreboard

Bringing me to the next piece. The RG. It is held by PKers at the PKA as essentially a scoreboard of good a killer you are. And it doesn't deter crime as death is not final and you can't imprison us anyway.

--Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||21:09, 27 August 2008 (BST)