UDWiki:Open Discussion/Wiki Status

Current Wiki Status

Say what you want about the current sysops, but this era has seen the least amount of uncategorized images, uncategorized pages, and unused files. The disambiguation links were fixed and many of the merged locations have been fixed. If we could come up with a way to deal with orphaned pages (other than linking the few that shouldn't be orphans in the first place) I have a feeling those would be under control, too.

Other Sysop Functions

Other than bitching about A/VB, A/D, A/SD, and A/M is there any other area that needs to be worked on? I'm curious about what other janitorial tasks that everyone feels needs to be done.

My Thoughts

Personally,.... I think that many of the moderators do an excellent job. My only wish is for them to come out into the lime light a little more. It seems to me like there is so much being done, between moderating discussions on policies, maintaining pages (i.e, A/SD, A/D, ect.), Vandalism Cases, Moderation, and Arbitration that they don't always get as much credit as they deserve. I think it would be cool to thank them in some way, perhaps by having a [single] page logging all changes made by moderators. It could be organized by moderator, with a list of their changes beneath them, that way the community would know exactly how much they do,.... instead of Bitching like some people do. --Poodle of doom 20:54, 20 July 2009 (BST)

well, thank you for the comment. I know it is supposed to be a janitorial job and you shouldn't expect gratitude for it. I personally keep a page (for myself) of what I have done on here. It would be nice if the other sysops did something like that too so that if I get bored with what I am working on I can help them out. --– Nubis ^NWO 21:04, 20 July 2009 (BST)

It would be nice if every moderator had something like this. Like I said, you guys are never thanked enough for what you really do. And in most cases, your decisions are overly just (always giving people the benifit of the doubt, always fair for all). It would be nice to have something like this update automatically when a moderator makes a change. -Poodle of doom 22:18, 20 July 2009 (BST)

"Don't be a dick" that should be a rule --DOWN WITH THE 'CRATS!!! | Join Nod!!! 16:17, 11 August 2009 (BST)

No it shouldn't. As much as I hate to trot out this line (mainly because I have to do it so often), sysops are not moderators. People in general shouldn't be overly gratituitous dicks, but apart from their conduct in official matters (which should definitely be civil) there is nothing that separates sysops from regular users in terms of behaviour requirements. Cyberbob  Talk  14:34, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Being More ProActive

What a lot of sops do, is have their own personal projects. Nubis' are above, I'm slightly obsessed with the other cities. Swiers had Iwitness, the list goes on. Would people like a list of areas on the wiki that need improvements? We need images of a something message in game, search rates in clubs data, that kind of thing? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:19, 20 July 2009 (BST)

You mean something listing stubs, and things that are a little outdated? That would be nice if the moderators could set something up like that. It could operate similarly to the Recent Changes, where it will show things that haven't been updated in [X] Number of Days, the point of which would be to have the community activly involved in keeping the wiki up to date. That said, if you are talking like things that need to be deleted, or changed,... thats what the Speedy Deletions, and Wiki Talk sections are for. -Poodle of doom 22:20, 20 July 2009 (BST)

I think she means things like - This is a new skill - what does the in-game message read for it? Or this is a new item - where are you finding it the most? All of these would be quite helpful actually. Not to mention, I love your work on the locations images, Rossie. That was a great idea. Things that, IDK, get this wiki back to be an information fucking source and not some creepy ass RPing drama shit storm? just sayin'-- #99 ^DCC 02:38, 21 July 2009 (BST)

Who's a she? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 10:37, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Say when was the last time we had a female as a sysops anyway? If we ever had one that is?--Thadeous Oakley 13:20, 12 August 2009 (BST)

So I guess you guys are just completely not believing Nubis, huh. Cyberbob  Talk  13:22, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Wa?--Thadeous Oakley 13:24, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Read this. Also Katthew was a sysop briefly in the very early days of the wiki (she was one of the original lot IIRC but Kevan demoted her). Cyberbob  Talk  13:28, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Ah transsexualism, and I always thought Nubis represented an all new form of sex besides man/woman...And Kevan actually meddling in wiki affairs? Man, that must have been the wiki prehistory.--Thadeous Oakley 13:40, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Actually Kevan was more or less the main player in promotions until the bureaucrat system was really implemented, which happened in late-ish 2006 when Vista and Xoid were given the job. Cyberbob  Talk  13:48, 12 August 2009 (BST)

J3D had 2 Cool, ALiM, great fire, the list goes on! Problem was the pages were so awesome the wiki self combusted on a fateful day known as 2/10/08 (or 10/2/08 for your crazy americans) when the pure awesanity of ALiMs birthday caused the wiki to crash for 7 hours. --xoxo 08:23, 12 August 2009 (BST)

The one thing I've been meaning to look into for ages has been the absolutely insane number of double redirects (and there's a good reason I've only been meaning to do it for so long). Apart from that I don't see anything hugely in need of work, but I suck at spotting things that don't show up on any of the Special: pages. Cyberbob  Talk  15:46, 12 August 2009 (BST)

self-congratulations are order!

a first in wiki history: this particular group of sysops is openly panhandling for hero cookies! --WanYao 13:02, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Not really. Cyberbob  Talk  13:11, 12 August 2009 (BST)

"This group"? As in, Nubis? Learn your history tab. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 13:34, 12 August 2009 (BST)

you should ix-nay this whole frothing-with-lame-vitriol-whenever-wanyao-speaks routine, DDR... it makes you look like bill o'reilly. --WanYao 13:52, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Rather than rather than laughing about "hero cookies" as though literally everything any sysop does to try and improve things is a popularity grab and nothing else, shouldn't you be genuinely happy that (for whatever reason, whether it be something you've done or not) an attempt is being made to make the wiki better and to get some discussion going on how to do so? I'm not having a go, I just would've thought that you would be happy about something like this rather than leery. Cyberbob  Talk  14:00, 12 August 2009 (BST)

You got over your 'cry "ad hominem" at every opportunity' phase, it seems. I totally called it, too. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 14:04, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Please can we not start down this road, at least not here. Keep it on the user talk pages. Cyberbob  Talk  14:06, 12 August 2009 (BST)

I would prefer not to have this conversation at all. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 14:11, 12 August 2009 (BST)

So don't. Participation in any internet conversation is entirely voluntary. Cyberbob  Talk  14:15, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Not when you're compelled to get the last word in.--xoxo 14:21, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Indeed.--Thadeous Oakley 14:45, 12 August 2009 (BST)

And nice work deflecting the fact that you were so, so wrong, with the use of irrelevant personal comments... it makes you look like zombie o'lord. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 15:14, 12 August 2009 (BST)

nooooooowhydidyoudothat Cyberbob  Talk  15:15, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Why the fuck not? I'm not the one who's blatantly wrong. If you don't like it, just ignore it. This whole header that Wan created is never going to be on topic, it can never be salvaged into a decent conversation about the wiki's status, or anything, the whole attempt at stirring up drama is almost sickening. That is all. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 15:21, 12 August 2009 (BST)

The more times you reply to him in a caustic fashion the more you're buying into his drama-stirring, you know. If you can't counter what he's saying without being dramagenic (yesss I made a new word) yourself you should probably just not reply. Cyberbob  Talk  15:27, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Similarly to you. For someone trying to overlook it from a higher, less intrusive position you aren't succeeding so much. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 15:30, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Trouble in paradise? ;)--CyberRead240 15:35, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Could you hand me the popcorn and bananas, dear Sir? --Thadeous Oakley 15:58, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Show me where I have been combative in this conversation, or indeed anywhere on this page. I'm not talking about a total cold shoulder, I'm talking about only posting if you can find a way to do so without being aggressive because you know where that's going to end up. I really want this page to be as drama-free as possible. Cyberbob  Talk  15:39, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Cyberbob240 said:

I really want this page to be as drama-free as possible

Sorry, but that had to be done for irony's sake. Seriously? --Thadeous Oakley 15:53, 12 August 2009 (BST)

No, and you're not being particularly helpful. Cyberbob  Talk  15:54, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Well okay, because you always treated me so nicely in the past I'll play ball for now.-Thadeous Oakley 15:57, 12 August 2009 (BST)