Talk:National Socialist Union

-Hello-

The group looks new, I hang out in Tolman usually, was wondering how many you have in Dentonside. FrostyTheSnowman 21 Feb 2010

Deleting stuff

As leader of the NSU, am I allowed to delete stuff from this talk page? --Cornholioo 13:21, 4 May 2010 (BST)

Yes, you are. For details, see UDWiki:Specific Case Editing Guidelines. G F J 14:48, 4 May 2010 (BST)

There was no infiltration

A Black Flag operative saw the NSU in the club but was too low on AP to do anything about it, do reported it to nearby anti-fascists. --Fenian 18:46, 24 April 2010 (BST)

How do I know you're not lying? We knew they infiltrated for several reasons:

1. We weren't active in Dakerstown that long. Still they decided to even leave the krinks to fight the NSU. It could easily be an attack of a few days after which we would leave again. Why would you travel all the way from Williamsville to Dakerstown (a hike that takes 2 days) in the first place?

2. They weren't able to know we were waiting on that revive point (which wasn't located in Dakerstown), which was written down on the NSU forums. Of course it's not that unlikely to encounter us there randomly.

3. We were using a ruined club as rally point. Why in gods name would you go check there? We could be basically anywhere on the map in or around Dakerstown. You can't freerun into ruined buildings so it's rediculous to go check them all out. And then I haven't mentioned that we didn't necessary needed to be sleeping inside a ruined building, could be a barricaded, lighted one as well.

4. A little while after we told about the infiltration, the infiltrator logged in where he wasn't active the time before.

5. The infiltrator didn't level.

6. The infiltrator was using a hotmail email adress and at the same time said he wasn't using MSN. --Cornholioo 13:31, 3 May 2010 (BST)

Listen up dude - I and Spiderzed took you down at that club. I found you because Spiderzed told me where you were. And Spiderzed really doesn't take kindly to spying. Oidar 15:57, 3 May 2010 (BST)

We have operatives in Dakerstown. It's a leftist stronghold. If you had looked at the group listing, you would have noticed that Black Flag was on the list. On at least one occasion, and I am not sure if this is the one you're talking about, one of our operatives saw an NSU member in a club in Dakerstown, and immediately alerted nearby leftist groups, because he was low on AP. It's funny to see how paranoid right-wingers can get, though. You know what? You're right. We do have an infiltrator in your group. But we're not telling you who it is, and we're sending more.--Fenian 16:52, 3 May 2010 (BST)

My kills have all been legitimate, using legitimate techniques as in-game scouting and sharing information with fellow PKers. I don't condone forum-spying in any way. (And I could point you to at least two groups who'd gladly attest that I've helped them against forum spying in the past, and another that would immediately attest that I have very high standards of fair play. One of those groups is even in direct opposition to Feral Undead.)

That being said, the evidence that there has forum-spying happened to the NSU is pressing. Which is why I left Dakerstown for a while (and have Sally operating in a completely different corner of Malton right now), and have become even more selective with which sources I trust. --Spiderzed 17:00, 3 May 2010 (BST)

Actually I did check the group listing and saw the Black Flag was active there, but that doesn't mean anything. Let me add some more points. 7. Two days after the infiltration was reported and the infiltrator got removed from the NSU, another person applied. He didn't got accepted straight away and after a while he still didn't level or report killing enemies of the NSU. 8. The same person was then caught standing inside the Krinks not doing anything useful for the NSU 9. Before cornholioo moved out to Dakerstown from the Krinks area, but after it was posted on the NSU forums that we would move to Dakerstown, Tony Oidar, who had previously been defending the Krinks, was encountered in Chudleyton! He was killed and dumped outside by the NSU. Probably he was on the way to Dakerstown. Now go and explain me HOW he could know we would be in Dakerstown when cornholioo had not entered the area yet! The only way he was able to know was because it was on the NSU forums and someone had infiltrated there.

Let's say you leftists are telling the truth and that encounter in the club was coincidence, then all this points together simply can't be coincidence. It's utterly, utterly sad that you guys need this cowardly way of warfare to gain victory. UTTERLY SAD. But still a national socialist doesn't lose his honor. Even if you leftists don't deserve it, the NSU will offer you a fair fight. Germanic hailgreet, Cornholioo 1:42, 4 May 2010 (BST)

LOL. OK. I don't know anything about any infiltration, but if you insist, sure there's an infiltrator. Whatever. It could be anyone in your group, and anyone applying the future might be another one. Enjoy your paranoia, Nazi. --Fenian 01:57, 4 May 2010 (BST)

No paranoia, dickhead. I think I've summed up my arguments very clearly. --Cornholioo 2:17, 4 May 2010 (BST)

You're saying I'm a spy, huh? No. Just.. no. Sure I was at Krinks - Then I moved another, far from as efficient, alt there to monitor your shit. Then I moved to Caiger. I had no idea you were in Dakerstown by then. Why did I go to Caiger? It's a wonderful target - Plenty of morons all over the place. You see, I'm a PKer. Or was. I don't know. Used to be in Red Rum. Anyway, I thought I'd go hunting again - And then you decided to whack me. Good riddance. Oidar 16:45, 4 May 2010 (BST)

Activity & claim making

Hi, I am working in Krinks since november 2009. I have never seen you in there. You have never rebuild a barricade, installed a genny, or repaired a transmitter. I would appreciate it if you removed any erroneous claims to the contrary. Thanks. --Zyckde 17:58, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

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This doesn't mean that we were not planning to move out. And we have been inside now. --Cornholioo 17:36, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, i saw, very bravely shooting someone and moving out. Great stuff. I heard you do not even carry your own grouptag. Just to let you know, your victim has been injected and is back inside again. --zyckde 16:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

True I was working together with ACC, and I'm still doing, so what? And you guys were the ones that declared war, not us. Don't start crying when we defend ourselves then. This is our tactic, enjoy it. --Cornholioo 16:01, 8 March 2010 (GTM+1)

At no point has the ACC declared its association with your operation. Today was the first time we have recieved a plea for help. I had offered to settle this issue by the means of a non violent mediation provided by the ACC between all the groups involved. Seeing this comment has changed my mind, and the ACC will NOT be entering the situation. --Alcatraz311^T|ACC|A45 20:25, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Do i smell isolation? Yes, i think i do. Only the actions of the Philosophe Knights can turn the balance of forces in your favor. Funny that you need the actions of the longest standing PKer group in this game to safe you from utter defeat. Oh irony! --zyckde 22:42, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

The present conflict

NSU,

Let me make clear that our present animosity is purely ideological. It can not be solved in any way.

The position of the WWSIS was provoked by the claim the NSU made on the Power Stations. We demand the claims to the Power Stations are removed, and NSU members agree not to set foot in either plant.

For ever struggling for working class unity, --Zyckde 19:38, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

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We didn't 'claim' either of te Power Station ours. We have said we are trying to make them safe, and there are more pro-survivor groups that are trying to do the same thing. We have also said we are willing to ally any pro-survivor group to achieve our goals. For having this goal, you should've see us as an ally rather than an enemy. Now that war is declared, this doesn't matter anymore.

Free, social and national, --Cornholioo 17:41, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

You claim that the safeness of the Krinks is your work, it is not. As said before, the NSU has never done anything positive to the plant, and since recently your only recorded act inside is shooting a survivor. --zyckde 16:57, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Our goal is to keep both plants safe. If the plants are safe, this goal is achieved, no matter who helps us with it. The NSU has been defending Tolman and was planning to move out to Krinks, you might understand this takes time since we are a young group. But before we could move to Krinks, war was declared. We are not simply going to move in and let ourselves get shot by your people, as you might understand. This is why we have killed a member of the CPM. Then the people of LURCS started to call me (cornholioo) a PK, while CPM had declared war themselves. The NSU thinks this is a cowardly atemp to win the sympathy of feral survivors.

Though, the NSU is not seeking war against any pro-survivor group. If you want we will add to our page that other pro-survivor groups and/or feral survivors help us in achieving our goals (keeping the plants safe). We will also cease hostilities towards the CPM, the WWSIS, and the FUACK. In return we ask the CPM, the WWSIS and the FUACK to cease hostilities towards the NSU. You can also visit our forums and post in 'Diplomacy', which can be found here: http://nsu.s2.bizhat.com/ --Cornholioo 16:19 8 March 2010 (GTM+1)

As I said. This conflict is ideological. Cornhoolio shouted 'Heil Hitler' when killing a survivor in Krinks Power Station. We consider your ideology as a declaration of war on humanity. We will continue to unmask your vile ideology for what it is, and block any attempt of your side to pose as respectable. --zyckde 18:21, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

As I said; the NSU is only seeking war against zombies, PKs and GKs. We have not declared war on anyone else, and are not seeking it either. If you don't believe us right there then we can't help that. --Cornholioo 20:36, 8 March 2010 (GTM+1)

Then it can't be helped, and you may consider the Gibsonton Squatters enemies of yours as well. --Fenian 20:02, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I see that Black Flag/Malton Revolution Radio have also arrived in the Krinks, so better add them as well. --zyckde 19:20, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Shame on you

"All you fascists may be surprised, but people in this world are gettin' organized. So you fascists are bound to lose, you fascists bound to lose." by Woody Guthrie --Martino 13:57, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

hi

firstly, enjoying all the anti-you sentiments on the wiki. secondly, nazi socialists seems a tad paradoxical to me. I mean what exactly nazi about you apart from that you've got the flag on your page? xoxo 13:32, 10 April 2010 (BST)

I've been wondering this a bit too. Except for the senseless hate and misuse of other people's symbols, to me there appears to be no link to actual national socialism. Infrastructure 13:35, 10 April 2010 (BST)

I haven't misused other people's symbols. But to answer the question: UD has politics in minimal form. We can't reach an actual national socialist state. But groups like the Communist Party of Malton have the same problem. --Cornholioo 8:46, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Not sure what you're trying to say here, honestly. Infrastructure 09:54, 11 April 2010 (BST)

To the contrary, when I was in high school, I knew people that would often talk of UD being a game heavily driven by components of Marxism, Socialism and Communism. For example, there is no currency, just communal workloads. And the game has a lot of pages taken out of various conflict theories, like Marx's. I could be wrong, it was many years ago and my memory is rusty, but you get the idea. --

 

 

 

 

09:58, 11 April 2010 (BST)

Yeah, the socialists are pretty set here. Though, anarchists and anyone who likes localism is also busy in game politics- the Uprising was a huge example of localist and autonomist ideas. --Fenian 16:48, 11 April 2010 (BST)

Highly useful information for your leaders!

Someone's making FUN of you on the wiki! Oh noes, that's even trolling I think! --Spiderzed 20:00, 16 April 2010 (BST)

Oh noes, ziz trolling takes no end! Poor leaders you haz! --Spiderzed 20:00, 16 April 2010 (BST)

Stalingrad, massengrab

It is pretty funny you have a picture of the nazi's biggest defeat on your page. I didn't think you had a sense of humor/irony. I guess I was wrong.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) at an unknown time.

It's only a matter of time before another YouTube parody of Downfall is posted, featuring Hitler ranting about Cornholioo being his greatest embarrassment.--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 19:28, 30 April 2010 (BST)

The battle was only lost because of a last minute blunder of Hitler. Stalingrad was a great example of the awesome power des Wehrmacht und des Waffen SS. --Cornholioo 5:44, 1 May 2010 (BST)

It's pretty funny that your German sucks so hard you have to go back and edit the mistakes you made. At least when I speak horrible German, I don't accompany it with a pathetic worship of their race. --Fenian 06:55, 1 May 2010 (BST)

der Wehrmacht und der Waffen-SS. Leer Duits te praten, Cornhole! And though my grasp on Dutch is only of basic level, I'm pretty certain that a space in a compound word is a mistake in it in 98% of all cases. --Spiderzed 11:15, 1 May 2010 (BST)

Or it could be des Wehrmachts. --Zyckde 11:22, 1 May 2010 (BST)

'Power of the...'. You're talking about possession here. Second case of der is des.

And I'm not a German myself. Which means there is no shame in having to think about which case to use. I don't blame foreigners that try to speak Dutch either for making little mistakes in articles. --Cornholioo 15:30, 1 May 2010 (BST)

Which begs the question: If you're not a German, why are idolizing a man who invaded your country and killed over 200 thousand Dutch people, suppressed Dutch political groups, literally enslaved the Dutch people though Arbeitseinsatz, flattened Dutch towns to build their little Atlantic Wall, flooded polders, and starved the Dutch? --Fenian 00:45, 2 May 2010 (BST)

It's really "power [...] der Wehrmacht". "Macht" is the base of the "Wehrmacht" compound word and is feminine, default feminine article is "die", and possessive case of "die" is "der". (Which is at the same time the default article for male nouns and thus utterly confusing for every non-native speaker.) Trust a native speaker on this one. --Spiderzed 14:42, 1 May 2010 (BST)

You're right. I thought the default article of Wehrmacht was der, but it turns out to be die. Ok then. Der Wehrmacht und der Waffen SS is correct. --Cornholioo 17:31, 1 May 2010 (BST)

And to return to the history, Stalingrad was not merely a "last-minute blunder". The campaign was a massive cock-up from start to finish: from bombing it into rubble in the early days, to failing to realise Stalin had reserve armies beyond the Volga, to giving von Paulus a futile 'no retreat' order - the latter a Hitler speciality. In fact, targeting the city in itself was a strategic mistake, as the real goal was the oilfields further southeast. So once again Cornholioo is wrong in every possible way.--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 03:28, 4 May 2010 (BST)

Learn history. --Cornholioo 13:42, 4 May 2010 (BST)

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04:26, 4 May 2010 (BST)

Death List formatting

I want to know at one glance where I am in the hi-score table, and your one goon who isn't an alt of you might want to know too. For that reason, I've prepared a better formatted list that automagically numbers itself. Just C&P it, and watch to keep the br-tags between #10 and #11. --Spiderzed 11:44, 1 May 2010 (BST)

Let me make this clear. I have 2 alts in the NSU, being Cornholioo and Batavian Warrior. Bankschroef isn't an alt of me. (He is another person.) --Cornholioo 14:35, 1 May 2010 (BST)

That list could be even more tidy if you made a table for it, or you could make each name a clickable link rather than having the url after it. - User:Whitehouse 14:58, 1 May 2010 (BST)

With all due respect, I must say that I agree to the above suggestion. My eyes are getting sore. Oidar 15:01, 1 May 2010 (BST)

Well, I only rushed to make it more accessible for my own dark purposes. If I had the spare time to beautify things on the wiki, I'd first do something about the sorry state of the FU page (and do many other things) before I do any work for the NSU. --Spiderzed 15:21, 1 May 2010 (BST)

The FU page isn't that bad is it? It's just simple rather than complicated with fancy colours and stuff like that. For the list I was thinking something like this:

NR	Did you know that..	Another column..
01	This is a table!	For containing stuff.
02	It can contain stuff.	Any Stuff.
03	It helps make things appear tidy.	Really.
04	It is rather simple to make.	It is.
05	I don't know...	Please?

It's easy enough to use, but I don't know if he cares much about how the list looks. - User:Whitehouse 15:33, 1 May 2010 (BST)