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As has been seen by UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Unban Amazing, there has been a certain interest in appealing some permabans to older users who have a desire to come back to the wiki, or are generally believed by the community to have been banned or escalated unfairly.

While we are obliged to follow through with unbans if the community desire it, I think there's some room for some small rules and regulations to be put in place to make sure these appeals just don't succeed at the whim of meatpuppets or troublemakers. It'd also be nice to keep things off the Policy Discussion pages.

This is a draft for a possible system in which permabanned users (many of which have received attention in the past for wanting to come back, like Cornholioo, Izumi, Amazing) may have their permaban escalation reviewed by the community and possibly have it revoked, in order to join the wiki community once again.

The following content inside the box below will be added to the A/DE page, and will outline the legitimate ban appeal process for the future:

==Permaban Appeals==

Users who have been permabanned on UDWiki may have their bans appealed on the De-Escalations page. To do this, a user must submit a case under the permabanned user's name, preferably with usage of the {{vndl}} template and an explanation regarding why the user should be unbanned. The case will also be noted on the main page via {{Wiki News}}.

Voting will commence for 2 weeks, and a majority of 2/3rds is needed. After the voting period is up, a sysop will review the vote and take appropriate action. If 2/3rds majority has been reached for rescinding the ban, the user will have their A/VD adjusted, and their permaban escalation will be struck, with an added link to the permaban vote. If the user was banned as per the "3 edit rule", they will have the permaban escalation struck but will be left with 2 warnings.

A permabanned user must be permabanned for at least 6 months before they can have the ban appealed. If an appeal does not fit this rule, it may be immediately cycled by a sysop without warning.

Appeals are considered a serious vote. Misuse of this privilege, eg. multiple submissions over a short time, may result in abusers being brought to vandal banning.

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  1. There was not a lot of input given with this policy, but those who gave it, it was greatly appreciated. Hopefully it passes -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 23:13, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
  2. Meh, not the biggest fan of the wording or certain small bits of it but it's something that's long been needed, if this is the best starting point there is it's certainly better than it could have been. --Karekmaps?! 01:50, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
  3. Can be fixed later--Boobs.gifTHE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 01:51, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
  4. Makes sense. -MHSstaff 04:50, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
  5. how can they be brought to vandal banning if they are already perma? the wording really stinks.-- bitch 07:24 25 March 2011 (UTC) 07:24, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
    It says there? A user must submit it on a permabanned user's behalf. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 13:48, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
    ah. sorry it was late. now I see that.-- bitch 14:54 25 March 2011 (UTC)
  6. Good policy.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 08:30, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
  7. Ditto. -- †  talk ? f.u. 12:24, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
  8. Meh. It's really well written, preventing abuse, but I can't really think of any person to which this could be applied. The current (de)escalation system is very lenient as it is, only the most persistent of idiots get all the way from 1 warning to a permaban, and by that point I think no period of banning other than a permanent one will fix that. Eh, I guess it doesn't hurt to have it in the extremely rare case of an appeal though. --Cat Pic.png Thadeous Oakley Talk 13:44, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
    i hate to admit it but i agree.-- bitch 14:54 25 March 2011 (UTC)
  9. Why not. Although I do envisage another Amazing attempt appearing about 5 minutes after this passes. =/ -- Cheese 14:30, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
  10. We want cornhole back--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 16:27, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
  11. Sure! Why not? --Akbar 21:18, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
  12. Have read and thought through several times, but I can't find any glaring loopholes. Something like this is long overdue. -- Spiderzed 22:14, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
  13. Seems ok. --  AHLGTG 23:03, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
  14. Nicely done.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 01:35, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
  15. Looks like it will do the job. I expect it will be a pretty drama filled page but at least there is a caveat about abuse. ~Vsig.png 06:00, 26 March 2011
    Actually, I don't expect that much drama - there aren't many perma-banned users who still have interest into the wiki. We might get a large batch of applicants and drama right after this implemented. But once the bulk of permabanneds of yesteryear is served (Amazing, Izumi, Cornlol etc.), I expect it to become a very low traffic site. -- Spiderzed 21:48, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
  16. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 20:17, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
  17. I likes it - and only wishes I'd thought of its earliers. (Oh noes! The bads peoples will come back in!) Could do with some ironing out - like a specific timescale to stop abuse (over-use) of the system. --Funt Solo QT Scotland flag.JPG 00:36, 29 March 2011 (BST)
  18. Like others, I am not too keen on the wording but feel it's a good start. 1 thing I would like is a mechanism to allow creation of a "ban Avoidance" account specifically to allow banned users to make the appeal themselves (and answer questions it may raise)--Honestmistake 12:28, 30 March 2011 (BST)
  19. Don't see this getting used too often, but no reason why we shouldn't make the process less ad hoc and more official. Linkthewindow  Talk  13:47, 5 April 2011 (BST)

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The policy has passed with a unanimous 19 for votes.

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