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#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yes''' and '''No'''.
#Voting will last for exactly two weeks following nomination. To be successful, a group must be approved by 2/3 of eligible voters to pass. A minimum of 15 votes must be cast for the vote to be valid. The only allowable votes are '''Yes''' and '''No'''.
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
#Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for [[Malton]]-based groups)
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=Nominations for Historical Status=
=Nominations for Historical Status=
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page.  
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.
 
=New Nominations=


==New Nominations==
===[[Detulux_Inc]]===
[[Detulux_Inc]] has disbanded (per news banner on their [http://detuluxinc.proboards.com/index.cgi? forum]) but was a longtime presence in the Kempsterbank area, contributing much to the general fun level for survivor and zombie alike.
# Yes - Nominator vote. - {{User:Marcusfilby/sig}} 21:14, 17 October 2009 (BST)
#'''No''' - Who? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 21:16, 17 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Um''' Marcus you need to convince me. Although having [[SFHNAS|eaten]] them for a few years, Im more than aware of their existence, what have they done that is historical? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 21:23, 17 October 2009 (BST)
#'''No''' - Never heard of them. Oddly enough, never been to Kemsterbank either. Historical groups need to ahve exuded their fame beyond their suburb.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:09, 17 October 2009 (BST)
#:Which is a bit weird, since they (histr. groups) usually only get specifically mentioned in suburbs they were active in.--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 23:53, 17 October 2009 (BST)
#::General historical (namely this page and the associated category) have traditionally been separate from suburb historical. Some groups that have never passed here have been placed in the historical section of suburb pages due to the consensus of their input there rather than the game as a whole to gain the nod through this process. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 23:58, 17 October 2009 (BST)
#'''No''' - Who?--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 22:27, 17 October 2009 (BST)
#'''No''' - Calling these guys nobodies would be a massive overestimation of their significance. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 22:53, 17 October 2009 (BST)
#'''No''' - I'll second Yonnua, Drawde, Iscariot and the Hierophant. --Goa'uld 0:04, 18 October 2009 (MET)
#'''No''' - I have been playing this game for years and i just head about you all. --{{User:The Colonel/Sig}} 23:18, 17 October 2009 (BST)
#'''No''' - as moloch. --[[User:Johnny Bass|Papa Johnny]] 01:02, 18 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes''' I originally Led the [[Knights Templar|KT]], and they came to K-Bank just after I quit the group, and just before I took a hiatus from the game. All these years later,... I still know who they are by the mere mention of their name. If I'm not mistaken, they were active in a couple suburbs prior to going to Kempster. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 01:17, 18 October 2009 (BST)
#<s>'''Yes''' - If poodle of doom vouches for them they must be worthy of historical status, surely? It increases the validity of the bid greatly, so yes from me.--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 01:51, 18 October 2009 (BST)</s>
#:wait no, I'm totally lying, he makes it so much more '''no''' worthy, SORRY LOL--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 01:52, 18 October 2009 (BST)
#'''No''' - A group, yes; with a presence, yes; of historical significance, not quite. --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 02:00, 18 October 2009 (BST)
#'''No''' - As the Papas. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 02:17, 18 October 2009 (BST)
#'''LOLWUT???''' - --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 06:33, 18 October 2009 (BST)
#'''...No.''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 09:40, 18 October 2009 (BST)
#'''No''' - Not historically significant. {{User:Rorybob/Sig}}09:43, 18 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes'''- 0have you people not seen [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Image:DetInt.jpg this image]??{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:47, 18 October 2009 (BST)
#'''No''' - Sorry.  It looks like you were a fun group and I enjoy your wiki page, but even as a zombie who spent some time in Kempsterbank I didn't know about you.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 10:40, 18 October 2009 (BST)
#ALiM, you've got me convinced. I vote '''Yes''' on that picture alone. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 12:30, 18 October 2009 (BST)
#'''No''' --{{User:OrangeGaf/Sig}} 16:08, 18 October 2009 (BST)-
#'''No''' Sorry but just being fun doesn't make it historic. For that you need to make a really big impact on the game and just being big in 1 'burb doesn't quite cut it for me. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 08:08, 20 October 2009 (BST)
#'''No'''  I thought they disbanded and were nominated a long time ago.  [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 20:16, 21 October 2009 (BST)
#'''No''' as everyone else.. or convince me that urban dead really is fun.----[[User:Sexualharrison|Sexualharrison]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] [[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]] 11:06, 22 October 2009 (BST)
#The ONLY time I've ever heard of them was through Recent Changes stalking.<font color=white>it doesn't help that I haven't played the game in ages and when I did I never payed attention to anything but the target</font>--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 14:44, 22 October 2009 (BST)
#'''No''' - We came to kill them at their "HQ" once and no one was there. :sadface: --[[User:Blanemcc|Blanemcc]] 16:38, 22 October 2009 (BST)
#'''No''' - Haven't even heard of them before now. --{{User:N0RDAK/Sig}} 00:17, 23 October 2009 (BST)
#'''No''' - I have heard of this group, but I don't see them receiving the historical status.  --{{User:Zombie slay3r/Signature}} 02:09, 23 October 2009 (BST)
#'''No''' - As...uhm...everyone. {{User:Met fan/sig}} 03:32, 23 October 2009 (BST)


===[[Flowers of Disease]]===
[[Flowers of Disease]] have disbanded and they have been a strong PKer presence in Malton for years. I have had the pleasure in battling them in the streets myself as a Bounty Hunter. Their Campaigns were often well organized against any who they deemed a target. You could always expect them to be part of any PKA organized attacks or get together. From Samhain Slaughter and Samhain Slaughter 2. The Malton Uprising, and Silent Night Slaughter at Fort Creedy. That is why I am nominating them for Historical Status.
#'''Yes''' - Nominator vote --[[User:Josh Clark|Josh Clark]] 02:03, 22 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes''' - Flowers=Win {{User:Psychotic Pantomime/sig}}03:41, 22 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes''' {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 04:09, 22 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes''' --{{User:The Surgeon General/sig}} 06:44, 22 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes''' Flotsam. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:23, 22 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes''' --[[User:Jimaine Dunwich|Jimaine Dunwich]] 09:56, 22 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes''' Of bloody course! --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 10:09, 22 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes''' - I used to be in agroup that fought them, and I am proud to say that I have done that.  Obvious yes!  (Funny, the Blackhawk died before the Flowers did.  T proves that God is a racist/hawkist son of a bitch.)--[[User:Dedling|Dedling]] 02:01, 23 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes''' I LOVE PK GROUPS! [[User:Criminally Insane|Criminally Insane]] 10:22, 22 October 2009 (BST)\\
#'''Yes''' Yes but only cause they get me high ----[[User:Sexualharrison|Sexualharrison]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] [[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]] 11:08, 22 October 2009 (BST)<br>
#'''Yes'''  for obvious reasons [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[AZM]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 11:09, 22 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes''' While a small group, they brought a lot of fun to the PKer community and had a lot of presence in game. --[[User:Johnny Bass|Papa Johnny]] 13:14, 22 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes''' Without a doubt, one of the most inventive, and brilliantly done groups out there. Original and always coming up with amazing events. Not to mention every member I have met in game is a stand up person. [[User:Matt Aries|Matt Aries]] 14:30, 22 October 2009 (BST)
#lolsheepvote--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 14:45, 22 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes''' - Our allies, our friends. Massive driving force in the PKA, and great guys. They'll be missed. --[[User:Blanemcc|Blanemcc]] 16:37, 22 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 17:36, 22 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes''' - Johnny said it best, they did a lot for Pkers in game. --{{User:The Colonel/Sig}} 18:08, 22 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes''' - They meet the criteria to me.  But if this is some kind of trick to get historical status and they aren't really disbanded I'll be upset.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 19:26, 22 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes''' - As Giles, however. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 20:59, 22 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes''' - Pretty fun group in the past --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 22:33, 22 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes''' - Excellent PKers and an awesome group. Also: Frighteningly effective. --{{User:DT/Signature}} 23:38, 22 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes''' - One of the best and will be missed --{{User:Gus_Thomas/Sig}} 01:40, 23 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes''' - I'm sad to see this awesome group go.  --{{User:Zombie slay3r/Signature}} 02:09, 23 October 2009 (BST)
#'''No''' - Did nothing to change the game that I ever noticed. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 03:19, 23 October 2009 (BST)
#'''Yes''' - {{User:Met fan/sig}} 03:33, 23 October 2009 (BST)


==Recent Nominations==
==Recent Nominations==
''There have been no recent nominations''
 
==[[East Becktown Defenders]]==
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The East Becktown Defenders officially disbanded on [[EBD/Epitaph|May 1st, 2020]], which makes them eligible for Historical Group status.
The EBD had been active since 2016, and included dozens of members, including both veterans and entire newbies. They maintained good relationships with survivor groups (including, but not limited to the DHPD, SoC, Knights Templar and the DEM) and zombie groups (specifically the Daubeney Resident Zombies next door, and of course our favourite frenemies in the RRF).
Aside from regular survivor-style operations, they also brought a fun, no-pressure approach to the game, along with [[East_Becktown_Defenders/Tools|wiki-tools]] (like the automatic SitRep on their group page) and weird events (like the [[EBD_Stat_Party_2016|EBD StatParty]]).
The group decided not to fade away like many others, but officially disbanded after exactly 4 years of activity.
 
=== Yes ===
 
# '''Yes''' -  {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 13:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Clayton Carmine|Clayton Carmine]] ([[User talk:Clayton Carmine|talk]]) 13:38, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:MicoolTNT|MicoolTNT]] 13:57, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - {{User:Stelar/sig}} 14:00, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Roddy Winters|Roddy Winters]] ([[User talk:Roddy Winters|talk]]) 17:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Matt Langley|Matt Langley]] ([[User talk:Matt Langley|talk]]) 18:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Tarkenton|Tarkenton]] ([[User talk:Tarkenton|talk]]) 20:33, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 23:17, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Simcoe|Simcoe]] 07:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Yo Ris|Yo Ris]] ([[User talk:Yo Ris|talk]]) 07:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:RaiNo|RaiNo]] 10:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Frank Burn|Frank Burn]] ([[User talk:Frank Burn|talk]]) 13:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' -  [[User:DoXBr|DoXBr]] ([[User talk:DoXBr|talk]]) 14:19, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Richardskull16|Richardskull16]] ([[User talk:Richardskull16|talk]]) 09:25, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - The Malton Globetrotters turbodunk the ayes! --{{User:Dragonshardz/dragonshardz}} {{Goonsig|Dragonshardz}} 00:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - {{User:Benigno/sig}} 16:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 
=== No ===
#I was going to go with “Who?” but [[Talk:East_Becktown_Defenders#Your_page|apparently we’ve spoken]]. As they did not fix their page in the entire 4 years they spent as a group, I cannot in good conscience vote for this group to be historical. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} {{Goonsig|Revenant}} 16:13, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
#From what I see is a run-of-the-mill survivor group engaged in standard survivor play of maintaining a particular area. It was not innovative (like MCM or 404 were), it didn't have a distinctive style (like for example B.A.R. or ULC would have), nor was it involved in significant events (like Escape or c4NT were). --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 20:34, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
#As Spiderzed. Groups that had some members, did some things, and had a central pitch of being "well liked" didn't classify as historical when Urban Dead was bigger. I don't believe that should change for groups that existed during UD's [[Survivor-Zombie_Imbalance#7|long tail]]. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 05:55, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
#As Spiderzed. --[[User:Papa John Schnatter|Papa John Schnatter]] ([[User talk:Papa John Schnatter|talk]]) 17:25, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 
With voting well and truly finished, the East Becktown Defenders have become a '''historical group'''. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 07:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)


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Obtaining Historical Status

A policy is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.

  1. Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
  2. A nomination should be made on Category talk:Historical Groups.
  3. Voting will last for exactly two weeks following nomination. To be successful, a group must be approved by 2/3 of eligible voters to pass. A minimum of 15 votes must be cast for the vote to be valid. The only allowable votes are Yes and No.
  4. Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
  5. Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
  6. Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for Malton-based groups)


Nominations for Historical Status

When nominating a group, please add a note to Template:Wiki News and add {{HistoricalGroupVoting}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{HistoricalVotingRules}} under the group's application for historical status.

New Nominations

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East Becktown Defenders

Voting Rules
Votes must be numbered, signed, and timestamped. They can take one of two forms:
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Votes that do not conform to the above will be struck by a moderator.

The only valid voting sections are Yes and No. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.

The East Becktown Defenders officially disbanded on May 1st, 2020, which makes them eligible for Historical Group status. The EBD had been active since 2016, and included dozens of members, including both veterans and entire newbies. They maintained good relationships with survivor groups (including, but not limited to the DHPD, SoC, Knights Templar and the DEM) and zombie groups (specifically the Daubeney Resident Zombies next door, and of course our favourite frenemies in the RRF). Aside from regular survivor-style operations, they also brought a fun, no-pressure approach to the game, along with wiki-tools (like the automatic SitRep on their group page) and weird events (like the EBD StatParty). The group decided not to fade away like many others, but officially disbanded after exactly 4 years of activity.

Yes

  1. Yes - PB&J 13:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  2. Yes - Clayton Carmine (talk) 13:38, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  3. Yes - MicoolTNT 13:57, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  4. Yes - stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 14:00, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  5. Yes - Roddy Winters (talk) 17:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  6. Yes - Matt Langley (talk) 18:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  7. Yes - Tarkenton (talk) 20:33, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  8. Yes - Bob Moncrief EBDW! 23:17, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  9. Yes - Simcoe 07:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  10. Yes - Yo Ris (talk) 07:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  11. Yes - RaiNo 10:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  12. Yes - Frank Burn (talk) 13:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  13. Yes - DoXBr (talk) 14:19, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  14. Yes - Richardskull16 (talk) 09:25, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  15. Yes - The Malton Globetrotters turbodunk the ayes! --ooɹd ǝʌɐɥ sʇɐoƃ sʍoʅʚ ǝɹɔuoɯ uǝɹɐʞWe're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop usYou rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 00:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  16. Yes - Benigno SSZ RCC 16:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

No

  1. I was going to go with “Who?” but apparently we’ve spoken. As they did not fix their page in the entire 4 years they spent as a group, I cannot in good conscience vote for this group to be historical. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 16:13, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  2. From what I see is a run-of-the-mill survivor group engaged in standard survivor play of maintaining a particular area. It was not innovative (like MCM or 404 were), it didn't have a distinctive style (like for example B.A.R. or ULC would have), nor was it involved in significant events (like Escape or c4NT were). -- Spiderzed 20:34, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  3. As Spiderzed. Groups that had some members, did some things, and had a central pitch of being "well liked" didn't classify as historical when Urban Dead was bigger. I don't believe that should change for groups that existed during UD's long tail. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 05:55, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  4. As Spiderzed. --Papa John Schnatter (talk) 17:25, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

With voting well and truly finished, the East Becktown Defenders have become a historical group. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 07:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

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