User talk:Cornholioo

--Thadeous Oakley 19:25, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Nice one thad, trust you to jump on the {{WN}} bandwagon without seeing the contributions this user actually made, and help out at rectifying them. --

 

 

 

 

00:26, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

User Pages

Your character page can only be located in your user namespace, eg. User:Cornholioo. It cannot exist at Cornholioo, as as such it has been deleted. --

 

 

 

 

00:24, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

National Socialist Union/recruit

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--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 18:45, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

vandalism

It is not ok to commit vandalism on my user page. That page is mine. You can discuss stuff on my talk page. I suppose that you got a bit carried away, and did not mean to break the rules. So I won't report it this time. --zyckde 21:06, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Warning

You've been warned for vandalisms and shit. Don't be doing it again, kk?--Big Cat 10:31, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

I didn't do this deliberately and have already appologized for this. I must say it's pretty sad this user and me have already solved this, and I still get the warning, though. --Cornholioo 12:55, 15 March, 2010 (UTC).

A/VB

When submitting a user for vandalism, you should post on the main page. You accidentally posted on the talk, which is used for discussion of cases by uninvolved parties. But, after reading what's happened, you should go to Arbitration instead, as Arbitration is used for editting disputes.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 17:36, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

A/A

Stop spamming A/A with silly cases please. If you want to "report" someone (as you requested), take them to A/VB. If you want to have something about a user's civility towards you changed, THEN you take it to A/A, but actually express that rather than complain about them swearing. And don't forget to sign, please, it makes a mess of things if not. --

 

 

 

 

06:34, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

I haven't got that much experience with reporting people. Thanks for the tip, I'll stick to it in the future. --Cornholioo 9:20, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Another request

Due to the subjective nature of groups on this wiki, we tend to not allow unwanted edits to group pages from outsiders of that group. As such, what you've done here is practically vandalism, and would usually be treated as such. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and rather than deal with you officially, I'm going to give you one last warning: don't make unwanted and controversial edits onto other users group pages and/or user pages, especially those of which you are in conflict with in-game or on-wiki. You were already warned for this a week or so ago here, and the sysops of this wiki will most likely get less and less lenient if you keep committing the same offences.

Good luck in the future, and please try and deal with wiki diplomacy according to the rules we try and abide by. If you have any further questions, I'd be more than happy to help you out with them. Thanks, --

 

 

 

 

13:36, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

You missed one, namely here. Which makes three. --zyckde 14:01, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Am I not allowed to do that? Zyckde has done that too to the page of the NSU here: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=National_Socialist_Union&diff=1668675&oldid=1667344 and here: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=National_Socialist_Union&diff=1670706&oldid=1670105 and I don't believe he was warned for it either.

And I now know I'm not allowed to edit personal pages and I have already apologized for that. I didn't know I wasn't allowed to do that, and I didn't know I'm not allowed to edit other groups' pages as well... I didn't mean to break any rules. --Cornholioo 14:44, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Maybe you should do some research before you.. Oh, wait. You guys don't do that. Right. Infrastructure 15:02, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh yes we do. I knew he had a case against him. I just didn't knew that was involving the edit he made on the page of the NSU. Also, read the post carefully; it says: "I don't believe he was...", which means I wasn't sure. --Cornholioo 15:16, 25 March 2010.

Re: Racism

What you wrote isn't racism, I suppose. It's the whole silly "white pride" thing. White supremacists tend to view other ethnic groups as inferior. Thus, I actually removed your comment (Which was entirely meaningless) due to it being written by a racist, rather than it having any racist meaning. You were right. Happy now? Infrastructure 14:59, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

The word 'racist' is invited by Jews that use it to paralyze any way of thinking and debating; it's used in the same way as the word 'heretic' was used in the dark ages. Therefore I'd prefer you to react concerning the case, rather simply putting it away as 'racism'. Greetings, the Aryan man that never sleeps, --Cornholioo 2:00, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Fine. Not "racist" then. I don't really like the word anyway - We don't use terms such as "race" here. Discriminatist perhaps? And last time I checked, sleep was essential to your health. You should try it sometime. Infrastructure 14:20, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Same story. --Cornholioo 14:26, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

• Sigh* I give up. It's fortunate that I didn't live during the WW2 period. Infrastructure 14:32, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Recruitment ad

Your Recruitment ad for the National Socialist Union was removed because it lacked a timestamp (if you go to here, you can see that you did sign the ad, but you didn't timestamp it as well...use four tildes instead of three when signing). All ads on that page are required to have timestamps, that way we can keep track of how long they have been posted and can remove them whenever the timestamp has not been updated within the past two months. You are welcome to put the ad back up on the page, so long as you make sure to provide a valid timestamp with it. For your convenience, I've provided your code that I removed.

===[[National Socialist Union]] : National Socialist Survivors===	 
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{{:National Socialist Union/recruit}}	 
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Cheers. —Aichon— 01:02, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok, it should be alright now. --Cornholioo 1:29, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Looks good. Thanks. —Aichon—

Batavian

Lol, so i understand Amir was right in giving Batavian W. a strong warning when he entered Tolman during the battle of Krinks :D --zyckde 15:18, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

NSU

I may not exactly like you, your organization or your ideology, but that doesn't stop my brain from desperately craving order. Advice: In the group template, your goals no longer appear to be very accurate. Infrastructure 18:54, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I appreciate the clarification. Infrastructure 12:48, 28 March 2010 (BST)

A quick heads up

Look at me being nice for a change. A word of warning, having multiple characters working together in the same group can get you barred from the game thanks to automatic countermeasures. See here for more info. As a rule of thumb make sure you keep your characters more than ten blocks away from each other. thanks. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 16:01, 30 March 2010 (BST)

I already knew. Thanks anyway. --Cornholioo 17:27, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Excellent --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:35, 30 March 2010 (BST)

The fuck?

Two things, why is a Nazi talking to me, and why would I giveyou my account info?--Sean Connolly 06:55, 6 April 2010 (BST)

If you must know...

My account is the same as my wiki. Sean Connolly. And I don't fear anyone who supports a fascist group that had its military power completely eliminated by Brits and couldn't even keep France in check.--Sean Connolly 03:03, 7 April 2010 (BST)

Your philosophy

You once said you would never discuss your philosophy publicly, fine. My e-mail is u238uranium it is a yahoo account, tell me your philosophy and do not spare the details, I will listen. I wish to understand you, for it is only after understanding you that I can destroy you. -Devorac 23:32, 9 April 2010 (BST) PS. You think about about sending me a virus and I will spike it back to you, you have been warned.

I'm not doing that for two reasons: 1. because I can't 'tell you my philosophy' in an E-Mail because that would take me way too long to write down, it's a useless request. 2. because I don't like the general tune in your post. --Cornholioo 2:42, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Let me spell it out for you Devorac... I...G....N...O...R...A...N...C...E..... hmmm... could be wrong though. -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 03:59, 10 April 2010 (BST)

I think I've been clear. --Cornholioo 3:00, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

"I think this is not the place to argue about my ideals. If you want to so bad, leave your E-Mail behind, I'll be happy to debate with you there." Did you are did you not write this on the battle of krinks talk page? If so what is so different between me and Zyckde that the same arrangment cannot be made, alternative if that is not the problem then do be dear and tell me what the problem is. Also no request is useless, even if the request is denied it teaches you. It is often (Lava diving being an exception) better to try and fail, than to never try because you may fail. And doom, he may be ignorant in many ways, but I expect that he knows what he knows quite well if you know what I mean. The reason I want to know exactly what he thinks is that only way to completely beat someone is to beat them on their own terms using their rules. Ignorance is a common fault, it is however rarely a philosophy. Oh btw, Cornholioo my profile is DevoraccaroveD chalk me down as an enemy. I am currently hunting in South Blythville, I reside at the dingley library. Come, drink with me. -Devorac 04:26, 10 April 2010 (BST)

You're not there coward. And now I thought someone else was you and killed him. Grrrr. Cornholioo 7:10, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Discretion is the better part of valor, it was amusing though to have you scrabble over there and make an ass of yourself in the area. Did I happen to mention that south-bly is the HQ of the MPD? Better luck next time. -Devorac 14:35, 10 April 2010 (BST)

Coward! If I find you you're dead! --Cornholioo 15:08, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Says the zerger. --Fenian 19:33, 10 April 2010 (BST)

Your friend Zyckde is a zerger too idiot. --Cornholioo 18:36, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

That is a false accusation, and a very rude one at that. Read my user space, it explains my characters, and their position. --zyckde 20:10, 10 April 2010 (BST)

Cornholioo, it is not cowardice to avoid a direct encounter with a zerger. Mainly because such a conflict will inevitably degenerate into a Mano a Manox50 struggle. Learn from the Finns, you don't fight a superior force with a head on attack, and you should always consider zergers to have a superior force since I have know Idea how many alts you have total. And buddy, you will never find me alive. I will never give the pleasure of stealing my breath. -Devorac 20:25, 10 April 2010 (BST)

Oh and I believe that you have more than one person in your group, in fact I have a picture here of you when one of your members got lost... File:Satire.jpg

I have 4 active alts. 1 is a PKer. The other ones are working for the NSU. That makes 3 characters for the NSU. Then there are some other people (not characters of me) in the NSU. Enough info? --Cornholioo 20:30, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Yes indeed.21:51, 10 April 2010 (BST)

Advice

This isn't the angry warning/threat of the post I put here last time. I'm just clearing some stuff up in relation to post-removing on your own talk page. Yes, you have every right to remove your posts on your own talk page (as long as you remove the entire thing), so yes, he's wrong and it isn't vandalism. However, he also has almost every right to keep sending messages on your page even though he knows they'll be deleted. So in essence this is just clearing up a few complaints you've both had about each others behaviour on this talk page.

By the way, you can always have a typical arbitration ruling which bars him from contacting you in an informal or derogatory manner. There is an example here. This is a relatively standard thing and rarely "harms" anyone so it's usually a bit more devoid of drama than your recent arbies cases. However, please don't go gun-ho and use individual cases to bar everyone like you've done before, just keep it selective and on the more persisting users. --

 

 

 

 

07:51, 10 April 2010 (BST)

Ok then --Cornholioo 12:11, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Now that is zerging

Using an alt to soften a location (batavian warrior destroying gennies and radios), and coming in with your main character to kill ppl inside. Is that the "honor" you keep whining about? Cheater scum. Caught you red handed fool. --zyckde 08:05, 12 April 2010 (BST)

I couldn't care less how you call it. It's not against the rules or I'd be banned. It's fair honorable play. --Cornholioo 12:43, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Screenshots! --

 

 

 

 

08:36, 12 April 2010 (BST)

I'd have a dumbwit of Cornholioo today in Krinks, and an screenshot image of Batavian in the same area from April 10th. Now if there would only be a screenshot of either of them in the time inbetween... --Spiderzed 11:37, 12 April 2010 (BST)

Using two characters, in a coordinated fashion, to achieve the same goal, is indeed zerging. Your characters must "lead completely separate existences within the game - your characters should not collaborate, nor share (or stand outside) the same building". Just because it's hard to police, doesn't mean it's not against the rules, and total douchebaggery -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 13:50 12 April 2010 (BST)

Then zyckde is playing against the rules as well. Both his characters are in the WWSIS. What is your point people? Make it clear or I delete this stuff. --Cornholioo 13:45, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I indicated there can be a debate about the way I use my characters, please go read the disclaimer on my page, and go to the talk for questions. Disclaimer here. --zyckde 15:24, 12 April 2010 (BST)

Whoever is playing multiple characters in the one group, in a coordinated fashion, is multi-abusing -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 15:33 12 April 2010 (BST)

Zerging is the use of multiple alts in a co-ordinated fashion. Alt abuse is the use of multiple alts in an unco-ordinated fashion with the same goal (ie, two alts in one group, or two different alts attacking the same group in different areas, etc). 16:07, 12 April 2010 (BST)

Below are screens from 10,11, and 12 april 2010, solid proof cornhoolio is abusing his characters by attacking a single structure. --zyckde 15:24, 12 April 2010 (BST)

File:CornhBatavZerg.jpg

These are three screens, hopefully readable

Can anyone show me this is against the rules? I haven't been banned so I don't think it is... --Cornholioo 15:38, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Here it is. 17:19, 12 April 2010 (BST)

"You are, provided that they lead completely separate existences within the game - your characters should not collaborate, nor share (or stand outside) the same building. Multiple characters found to be working together in a suspicious fashion will be automatically flagged, penalised or even banned permanently by the system" - Urban Dead FAQ. "A number of automated detection systems and countermeasures are already in place, and time is better spent on improving those systems, rather than carefully investigating reports and screenshots (and all reports would have to be investigated at length, given that any of them could be easily-faked attempts to get innocent characters banned)." - More FAQ. Resensitized is that way. -- 

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17:21, 12 April 2010 (BST)

Kevan isn't much of an interventionist unless it gets really out of hand, mainly because going after ever single two bit multi abuser like you is a waste of time. If zergers got banned reliably every time we wouldn't have problems like UDZA cropping up. You are abusing, knock it off if you want even a vestige of respect to your name. -Devorac 17:24, 12 April 2010 (BST)

Read carefully, it says this: "your characters should not collaborate, nor share (or stand outside) the same building."

I haven't done that. They have attacked the same building, but with an interval of over one day. --Cornholioo 16:28, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

While I know you're not the sharpest guy, surely you must know the meaning of collaborate? Infrastructure 17:30, 12 April 2010 (BST)

Yeah, but where do you cross that line? If the interval was a week, was it collaborating too then? White regards, Cornholioo 16:51, 12 April 2010 (UTC) PS, I would appreciate it if everyone could stop swearing. Next time that will be deleted, thanks.

Fuck wank cunt dick shit bastarding ass balls. Also it's a moot point. The interval wasn't a week. 17:55, 12 April 2010 (BST)

No it wasn't. But what if it was? Would that be collaborating? --Cornholioo 16:57, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Are your characters in the same location, attacking the same targets, working to the same end? Yes. So the answer is... yes. 18:01, 12 April 2010 (BST)

No, atm they differ 2 full suburbs (20 blocks). The closest they have been to eachothers was 12 blocks. I have printed out a map of the area around Krinks, so I can know. So what if I would let them attack the same targets while working to the same end, with an interval of two months? Or a year? Or two years? It makes no sense. I haven't been banned so it's ok. --Cornholioo 18:05, 12 April 2010 (BST)

If I make a group and I avow that the purpose of my group is to revive zombies, and I make 20 scientist alts to revive zombies with and I put them all in the same group it is MULTI-ABUSE! Even if the characters never see each other in game and I keep them all apart they are all working towards the same goal (Well that looks a whole lot like the definition of collaboration doesn't it?) it is still zerging. You have three characters in the same group, all working towards the same goal in the same area. You are abusing the system, knock it off, it didn't do anything to you. -Devorac 18:09, 12 April 2010 (BST)

Zyckde does that too; he has 2 alts in the same group. --Cornholioo PS, two of my characters work in the same area, not three.

Then you're both guilty. Finger pointing is not exculpation. 18:15, 12 April 2010 (BST)

Watch me not defend him, because someone else is doing it does not make it right. Also, "I haven't been banned so it's ok." is the most stupid justification I have ever heard. It is like the shoplifter saying, "Well they didn't catch me so it is okay..." No it isn't okay, it is still wrong. Not being punished does not make something not wrong. "Hey I raped a girl, but somewhere someone else raped a girl so that makes it okay!" That doesn't work. At all. -Devorac 18:16, 12 April 2010 (BST)

Who is the person that started the 'now this is zerging' part on this talk page? That's a little hypocrite in my opinion. --Cornholioo 18:17, 12 April 2010 (BST)

That doesn't matter. YOU are still zerging. -Devorac 18:20, 12 April 2010 (BST)

That ban thingy isn't about being catched or not. It's about doing something wrong or not. It works automatically. I haven't done something wrong, Zyckde has neither. --Cornholioo 18:20, 12 April 2010 (BST)

Last time I checked, a shitload of zergers/alt abusers aren't caught, despite the automatic systems. Infrastructure 18:22, 12 April 2010 (BST)

Yeah but my characters are seperated 10 blocks at minimum at any time. --Cornholioo 18:23, 12 April 2010

That has no relation to what I just said. Infrastructure 18:25, 12 April 2010 (BST)

But it has. The system bans people when their accounts get closer than 10 blocks to eachothers. --Cornholioo 18:26, 12 April 2010 (BST)

"I want to point out to you that in a debate, bringing up the same argument is very annoying, especially when someone has already reacted on it. Nazis sometimes do this until the Methodist gets tired of it. When the Methodist doesn't react anymore, then the Nazi has won the debate. This is also a Tactic of chuckleheads." One last time, THE MEASURES ARE NOT AUTOMATIC! Otherwise I wouldn't have to hunt zergers, resensitized wouldn't exist, and UDZA would be a very short lived movement. -Devorac 18:28, 12 April 2010 (BST)

Yeah I've said that before but I simply have a point: it's ok to have your characters seperated 10 blocks max. Oh, and you're wrong, the system is automatic. Start at the FAQ: "A number of automated detection systems and countermeasures are already in place, and time is better spent on improving those systems, rather than carefully investigating reports and screenshots (and all reports would have to be investigated at length, given that any of them could be easily-faked attempts to get innocent characters banned)." - More FAQ. --Cornholioo 18:33, 12 April 2010 (BST)

The bans are not automatic. Automatic flags only lower your hit and search rates, and can cause FAKs to fail when used on yourself. There are no automatic bans in place. 18:34, 12 April 2010 (BST)

Nope, check this out: "Multiple characters found to be working together in a suspicious fashion will be automatically flagged, penalised or even banned permanently by the system". This is also just FAQ. --Cornholioo 18:36, 12 April 2010 (BST)

As Mis, I have had my zombie and main character get within two blocks of each other on one occasion, I know for a fact that bans are not automatic, I didn't even notice it until I logged in the day after. -Devorac 18:37, 12 April 2010 (BST)

Automatically flagged is a separate clause from the others. THERE ARE NO GOD DAMN AUTOMATIC BANS IN PLACE. 18:40, 12 April 2010 (BST)

I still don't see any proper evidence of my characters working together. Check this: Q: "How do I report game abuse or zerging?" A: "You don't." Source: FAQ... when do I have to stop? Every argument you bring up I smash out of your hands using just the FAQ. How simple do you think this is for me? --Cornholioo 18:41, 12 April 2010 (BST)

I honestly don't care if you can justify it to yourself or not. I have other things to be doing, but I don't suffer fools and your habit of just blatantly making things up is what I'm pointing out. 18:47, 12 April 2010 (BST)