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#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, and have a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yes''' and '''No'''.
#Voting will last for exactly two weeks following nomination. To be successful, a group must be approved by 2/3 of eligible voters to pass. A minimum of 15 votes must be cast for the vote to be valid. The only allowable votes are '''Yes''' and '''No'''.
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
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When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.


==New Nominations==
=New Nominations=
===[[Red Rum]]===
 
 
 
==Recent Nominations==
 
==[[East Becktown Defenders]]==
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Once the biggest ever group of murderers in this game, I had a ''lot'' of fun with these guys when we were shooting people <s>and each other</s> (I genuinely didn't expect to get shot by my own team quite so much, but it always made me laugh). Probably our most impressive stuff was when 10-30 of us would show up at once and kill everyone we could see, but my particularly favourite bits were the stupid things we did, like our Tea Party in the Blackmore Building. We combat revived the RRF holding the place, barricaded it up and then, when people started turning up proclaiming it was back in survivor hands, we shot them too. Hurray!
The East Becktown Defenders officially disbanded on [[EBD/Epitaph|May 1st, 2020]], which makes them eligible for Historical Group status.
 
The EBD had been active since 2016, and included dozens of members, including both veterans and entire newbies. They maintained good relationships with survivor groups (including, but not limited to the DHPD, SoC, Knights Templar and the DEM) and zombie groups (specifically the Daubeney Resident Zombies next door, and of course our favourite frenemies in the RRF).
Here's some of the stuff we did below, but there was also a lot of cool stuff with other groups, whether we helped organise it (like the [[St. Valentine's Cherubs]]) or just turned up to have some fun (too many [[PKA]] events to list!). Thanks for all the good times! --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 13:18, 6 April 2012 (BST)
Aside from regular survivor-style operations, they also brought a fun, no-pressure approach to the game, along with [[East_Becktown_Defenders/Tools|wiki-tools]] (like the automatic SitRep on their group page) and weird events (like the [[EBD_Stat_Party_2016|EBD StatParty]]).
The group decided not to fade away like many others, but officially disbanded after exactly 4 years of activity.


'''Cool Events:''' [[Red_Rum/Tommy_Gun|Tommy Gun]] | [[Creedystock]] | [[Red Rum/The Great Military Biscuit War|The Great Military Biscuit War]] | [[Red Rum/Battle Royale|Battle Royale]] | [[Red Rum/Siege of Jerusalem|Siege of Jerusalem]] | [[Red_Rum/Dia_de_los_Muertos|Dia De Los Muertos]] | [[Red_Ranch|Red Ranch]] | [[Red_Rum/Hunting_Season|Hunting Season]] | [[Red_Rum/Vasectomy_Tour|Big Red Vasectomy Tour]]
=== Yes ===


'''Spinoff Stuff:''' [[Flat Earth Society]] | [[¯\(°_o)/¯]] | [[Daily Ruminations|The Daily Ruminations]] | [[PANCAKE]] | [[Scour the Earth]] |<br>[[Lord Curton's Gentlemen's Hunting Club]]
# '''Yes''' -  {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 13:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Clayton Carmine|Clayton Carmine]] ([[User talk:Clayton Carmine|talk]]) 13:38, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
====Yes====
# '''Yes''' - [[User:MicoolTNT|MicoolTNT]] 13:57, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Y'arrr''' - cheers to Beardo, Strata, DevilAsh, Revenant, Dancing Banana, Suburban Ed, GioV, Cypher, Goribus, Amber, Vis, binlaggin, Vandr, phozil, dipcup, shad, Genie, bluefish, turk and no doubt a whole load more people I've forgotten for all the awesome times! :D --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 13:24, 6 April 2012 (BST)
# '''Yes''' - {{User:Stelar/sig}} 14:00, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# While their impact on the game as a whole may be perhaps up for discussion, they seemed to be a successful PK group back in the day. Well known by the public at large, while maintaining a style of their own that set them apart from the pack. Decent enough, so a yes. -- [[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span>  13:47, 6 April 2012 (BST)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Roddy Winters|Roddy Winters]] ([[User talk:Roddy Winters|talk]]) 17:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# my first Pker group. ah the wanderers. this makes me sad.--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>13:53, 6 April 2012 </small>
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Matt Langley|Matt Langley]] ([[User talk:Matt Langley|talk]]) 18:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# Absolutely. I thank all of the guys that contributed (you know who you are) and disagree inherently with Thad, but don't want to poke too much fun out of him in case he bans me again. Much love to everyone, I have really enjoyed rolling with the biggest PKing group in UD for the past seven or eight (good lord, that long?) years. {{User:Ashley Valentine/sig}} 14:09, 6 April 2012 (BST)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Tarkenton|Tarkenton]] ([[User talk:Tarkenton|talk]]) 20:33, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# makeitsomakeitsomakeitso {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 14:11, 6 April 2012 (BST)
# '''Yes''' - {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 23:17, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# What the hell? I go inactive for a few months and you guys go dead? Not cool. But your group was cool. And DEFINITELY historical. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 14:52, 6 April 2012 (BST)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Simcoe|Simcoe]] 07:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
#<nowiki>:(</nowiki> Karl forgot me--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 16:22, 6 April 2012 (BST)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Yo Ris|Yo Ris]] ([[User talk:Yo Ris|talk]]) 07:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
#Red Rum was for a very long time the very biggest PKer group - and that continuously, while most PKer groups tend to fade away as fast as they rise. If you even ''consider'' to vote "no", your perception is seriously weird. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 16:29, 6 April 2012 (BST)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:RaiNo|RaiNo]] 10:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
#: :D --{{User:Akule/sig}} 22:05, 6 April 2012 (BST)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Frank Burn|Frank Burn]] ([[User talk:Frank Burn|talk]]) 13:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
#$50 says Skynet shows up to vote no on this. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 16:45, 6 April 2012 (BST)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:DoXBr|DoXBr]] ([[User talk:DoXBr|talk]]) 14:19, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
#:[http://iamscott.net/133377958222.html It seems you're still as active as ever.]. A bit plan hindering on my hunt for a certain imposter masquarading around as me, but you can make it up to me if you leave this Death Cultist here with an infection next time. ;) --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 07:25, 7 April 2012 (BST)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Richardskull16|Richardskull16]] ([[User talk:Richardskull16|talk]]) 09:25, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
# YES! [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 16:59, 6 April 2012 (BST)
# '''Yes''' - The Malton Globetrotters turbodunk the ayes! --{{User:Dragonshardz/dragonshardz}} {{Goonsig|Dragonshardz}} 00:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
# Piling in. These guys were before my time, but it's obvious they made a major contribution to the art of PKing. {{User:Chief Seagull/Sig}} 20:00, 6 April 2012 (BST)
# '''Yes''' - {{User:Benigno/sig}} 16:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
# --[[User:RadicalWhig|RadicalWhig]] 03:18, 7 April 2012 (BST)
# Assuming that this is not another of their 'pranks', they should be passed into history without question. One of the game's defining groups. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 04:01, 7 April 2012 (BST)
# Uhm, yeah. Even if they are still active I think that predating this one then adding it when they're gone is appropriate. There's only about 4 or 5 groups I'd say that for too. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 11:41, 7 April 2012 (BST)
# --{{User:Mallrat/sig}} 11:43, 7 April 2012 (BST)
# This pack of lunatics unleashed a species of tongue-in-cheek madness that endlessly delighted everyone with a sense of humor and an appreciation for fine wine, and endlessly pissed off everyone who took the game too seriously. They are one of the few reasons this category exists. Bravo, Karl and company. Come visit me, or I shall cry. --{{User:Paddy Dignam/sig}} 18:20, 7 April 2012 (BST)
# The single most infamous PKer group in all of Malton. I don't care who you are or how new you are to the meta-game, you have heard of Red Rum. And most of you at some point have either joined us or been shot by us. Oh and Axe, I've been false flagging for awhile. I'm in Ed's Peasant Militia, I just didn't want to spoil the surprise for you lot. I've also been tagging up as 'Wanderer' for revives. I told the Militia I wasn't going to tag up until Red Rum it was put up for Historical. Go ahead and check my profile again. -- [[User:Goribus|Goribus]] 19:19, 7 April 2012 (BST)
# Helped set the gold standard of murderous malefactors. --{{User:A.schwan/sig}} <sub>Saturday, 7 April 2012</sub>
# {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 02:32, 8 April 2012 (BST)
# Really goes without saying. --{{User:The Surgeon General/sig}} 04:49, 9 April 2012 (BST)
# Aww, it's a shame Red Rum is disbanding. Thanks Karl and the gang for all the laughs. -- --[[User:Thekooks|Kooks]] 10:56, 9 April 2012 (BST)
# They'll be back. Maybe not as Red Rum but still. No one quits UD for good. Everyone returns :P {{User:Mazu/sig}}  16:31, 9 April 2012 (BST)
# Yes, yes and yes again.  Red Rum was always fun to hunt and it was always a pleasure to be killed by them.  Sorry to see you disband.  --[[User:Raven Corvus|Raven Corvus]] 19:56, 9 April 2012 (BST)
# Most notable PK group i've run into.--~ [[Image:MDD_Logo.png|20px|link=MDD]]''' [[User:Zach016|Zach016]] <sup>[[Department of Health and Human Services|D.H.H.S.]]</sup> 17:45, 10 April 2012 (BST)
# We're going to miss you guys. As everyone above. --[[User:Macampos|Private Mark]] 04:15, 11 April 2012 (BST)
# Allah's work is done, thank you for the faithful jihad, Yes allahahalalala --[[User:Binlaggin|Binlaggin]] 09:13, 13 April 2012 (BST)
#'''Of course''' - Without a doubt, this group should be inducted into historical groups. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 20:57, 13 April 2012 (BST)
#:<s>'''Nay''' - [[:Category:Historical_Groups|Criteria states]]: "''1. Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.''" I assume you guys are still together in game? Do you still want to edit the [[Red Rum]] page? If so, then you'll have to wait to get included as a Historical Group. Recall that [[The Dead]] had to make a [[The_Dead_2.0|new page]], rather than reopen the old one. Now, if Red Rum basically says: "Yeah, we're done." Then I will be willing to change my vote. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 22:03, 6 April 2012 (BST)</s>
#::Nah, we're done. We had a vote on it on the forums and everything. --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 01:14, 7 April 2012 (BST)
#:::How long ago was it? {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 08:10, 7 April 2012 (BST)
#::::The thread to wind up Red Rum started in December 2011 - it's definitely not a snap decision! --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 10:35, 7 April 2012 (BST)
#:::::Yep, Red Rum has been planning this since December. The official announcement was on April 1st actually. Which everyone seems to have taken as a prank. Justasplanned.png -- [[User:Goribus|Goribus]] 19:08, 7 April 2012 (BST)
#:::Sorry to hear that. You guys were great. It'll be sad to see you go. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 20:57, 13 April 2012 (BST)
#[[Red Rum/Ministry|Who? Never heard of]]… all, right, '''yes''', the jig is up. Red Rum brought a whole new side of the game to life for me, probably the side that'll live with me the longest. We had some wacky antics, never took things too seriously, and had policies that had me in stitches (like the friendly fire policy which drove [[User:Grim s|Grim s]] to distraction with our mathematical proof.) I'm particularly proud of killing my way through most of the leadership, including managing to stalk our illustrious founder [[User:Zaruthustra|Zaruthustra]] over the course of a week, and of keeping the group going for a while there when I accidentally fell into a leadership position, a fact that I am also proud of concealing for as long as possible, to the point where after I'd handed over the reigns there were still people who didn't know I was in the group. While we're here, let's give it up for [[Blue Bourbon]], [[Green Gin]], [[Amber Ale]], [[Alliterative Alcoholics]], [[Ryker & Emil: Demolishing Unsafe Masonry]], [[Red Elves Delivering Roses Under Moonlight]], [[Friends of the Featherstone Library]] and all the other wonderful cover groups that had us shooting anyone wearing "Red Rum" tags as "clear impostors".<br/><br/> I'll miss this group, but really, after [[false tagging|infiltrating]] every other group in the game, what other goals did we have left?<br/><br/> I suppose we could do a big reveal of all our lifetime members, just to see who's shocked?… no mention of the group is complete without [[User:Mia Kristos|Sirens Discord]], a very polarising figure for anyone who knew him/her, and who kept the forums going for the group for years after leaving active play. Also, IneptOne, our stealth reviver (who may or may not have pioneered the concept)… [[User:Dux Ducis|Dux Ducis]], a fun guy who got eaten by RL and I'm sure is a successful executive somewhere now… [[User:Jennifer Thrush|Jennifer Thrush]] for being one scary and wonderful lady, our Muse in all things… [[User:Gunner92|Gunner92]] for IRC hilarity… OK, now I think I'm just rambling. I'll miss you, Red Rum.<br/><br/> Of course, I can think of no more fitting epitaph than ''"that strange couplet from the book of Al'hazred, the Mad Arab: '''“That is not dead which can eternal lie / And with strange aeons, even death may die.”'''''"<br/><br/> Now, Karl, where'd you put the damn Biscuit Tin? I could use a Jaffa cake!<br/>{{User:Duke D'oeuvre/Sig}}
:Uh-huh... http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/199/896/2jfg08h.gif --[[User:The Hierophant|Unhappydisgustingwow]] 10:41, 16 April 2012 (BST)


====No====
=== No ===
#I was going to go with “Who?” but [[Talk:East_Becktown_Defenders#Your_page|apparently we’ve spoken]]. As they did not fix their page in the entire 4 years they spent as a group, I cannot in good conscience vote for this group to be historical. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} {{Goonsig|Revenant}} 16:13, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
#From what I see is a run-of-the-mill survivor group engaged in standard survivor play of maintaining a particular area. It was not innovative (like MCM or 404 were), it didn't have a distinctive style (like for example B.A.R. or ULC would have), nor was it involved in significant events (like Escape or c4NT were). --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 20:34, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
#As Spiderzed. Groups that had some members, did some things, and had a central pitch of being "well liked" didn't classify as historical when Urban Dead was bigger. I don't believe that should change for groups that existed during UD's [[Survivor-Zombie_Imbalance#7|long tail]]. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 05:55, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
#As Spiderzed. --[[User:Papa John Schnatter|Papa John Schnatter]] ([[User talk:Papa John Schnatter|talk]]) 17:25, 25 August 2022 (UTC)


==Recent Nominations==
With voting well and truly finished, the East Becktown Defenders have become a '''historical group'''. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 07:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/SucceededArchive#Channel_4_News_Team|Channel 4 News Team]] - '''Successful'''


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just a question why and how did the roftwood assault force become historical?--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>04:16, 23 June 2011 (bst)</small>
:[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/SucceededArchive#Roftwood_Assault_Force|here's the vote]]. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 05:45, 23 June 2011 (BST)
::man did it squeak by. must have been when i was inactive for a few months.--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>06:06, 23 June 2011 (bst)</small>

Latest revision as of 00:12, 8 September 2022

Obtaining Historical Status

A policy is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.

  1. Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
  2. A nomination should be made on Category talk:Historical Groups.
  3. Voting will last for exactly two weeks following nomination. To be successful, a group must be approved by 2/3 of eligible voters to pass. A minimum of 15 votes must be cast for the vote to be valid. The only allowable votes are Yes and No.
  4. Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
  5. Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
  6. Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for Malton-based groups)


Nominations for Historical Status

When nominating a group, please add a note to Template:Wiki News and add {{HistoricalGroupVoting}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{HistoricalVotingRules}} under the group's application for historical status.

New Nominations

Recent Nominations

East Becktown Defenders

Voting Rules
Votes must be numbered, signed, and timestamped. They can take one of two forms:
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  • # ~~~~

Votes that do not conform to the above will be struck by a moderator.

The only valid voting sections are Yes and No. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.

The East Becktown Defenders officially disbanded on May 1st, 2020, which makes them eligible for Historical Group status. The EBD had been active since 2016, and included dozens of members, including both veterans and entire newbies. They maintained good relationships with survivor groups (including, but not limited to the DHPD, SoC, Knights Templar and the DEM) and zombie groups (specifically the Daubeney Resident Zombies next door, and of course our favourite frenemies in the RRF). Aside from regular survivor-style operations, they also brought a fun, no-pressure approach to the game, along with wiki-tools (like the automatic SitRep on their group page) and weird events (like the EBD StatParty). The group decided not to fade away like many others, but officially disbanded after exactly 4 years of activity.

Yes

  1. Yes - PB&J 13:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  2. Yes - Clayton Carmine (talk) 13:38, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  3. Yes - MicoolTNT 13:57, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  4. Yes - stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 14:00, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  5. Yes - Roddy Winters (talk) 17:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  6. Yes - Matt Langley (talk) 18:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  7. Yes - Tarkenton (talk) 20:33, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  8. Yes - Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 23:17, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  9. Yes - Simcoe 07:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  10. Yes - Yo Ris (talk) 07:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  11. Yes - RaiNo 10:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  12. Yes - Frank Burn (talk) 13:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  13. Yes - DoXBr (talk) 14:19, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  14. Yes - Richardskull16 (talk) 09:25, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  15. Yes - The Malton Globetrotters turbodunk the ayes! --【ⅎooɹd ǝʌɐɥ ᴉ sʇɐoƃ sʍoʅʚ ⅎǝᴉɹɔuoɯ uǝɹɐʞ】 ☉ We're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop us ☉ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 00:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  16. Yes - Benigno SSZ RCC 16:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

No

  1. I was going to go with “Who?” but apparently we’ve spoken. As they did not fix their page in the entire 4 years they spent as a group, I cannot in good conscience vote for this group to be historical. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 16:13, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  2. From what I see is a run-of-the-mill survivor group engaged in standard survivor play of maintaining a particular area. It was not innovative (like MCM or 404 were), it didn't have a distinctive style (like for example B.A.R. or ULC would have), nor was it involved in significant events (like Escape or c4NT were). -- Spiderzed▋ 20:34, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  3. As Spiderzed. Groups that had some members, did some things, and had a central pitch of being "well liked" didn't classify as historical when Urban Dead was bigger. I don't believe that should change for groups that existed during UD's long tail. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 05:55, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  4. As Spiderzed. --Papa John Schnatter (talk) 17:25, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

With voting well and truly finished, the East Becktown Defenders have become a historical group. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 07:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

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