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====[[Amusing Locations in Malton]]====
====[[Big Game Ruin Hunting]]====
Need I say more?--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 03:50, 5 September 2012 (BST)
I'd like some feedback on this article, it's on the shorter side but I think it concisely describes the context surrounding the sport and I've always tried to ensure it has the most up to date big AP records on there (as best I can).
 
=====Comments (Amusing Locations in Malton)=====
Do it. And those who pushed it out of being GA in the first place are idiots. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 04:55, 5 September 2012 (BST)
 
Color me humorless, but I'll say no. It's a thorough list (too thorough...), to be sure, but not the sort of thing we should be featuring. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 05:40, 5 September 2012 (BST)
:Hold still while I color you. Anyone who says they didn't chuckle while reading this is a filthy liar. Everyone likes fart and dick jokes. And ALiM is huge. It's almost as big as Mycock. Seriously, though it should be featured before "You know you're playing too much UD when..." or any other humorous page up for nomination. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>05:57, 5 September 2012 (UTC)</sub>
::I got over dick and fart jokes a long time ago. They're cheap jokes. I prefer something with more value. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 06:26, 5 September 2012 (BST)
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====[[Zombie Skills/Feeding Groan]]====
It's brief, but it's to-the-point, lists things that are a) comprehensive, b) useful and c) interesting; and it's all wonderfully illustrated by the singularly most obscure joke I could make on the subject. Bonus points to anyone who can explain it. I have a few of these so this one is really just testing the waters on the subject; as usual feel free to insult it, me and my mother when you're offering opinions. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 21:47, 3 September 2012 (BST)
=====Comments (Zombie Skills/Feeding Groan)=====
Seems complete and well-written. I'd be in favor. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 00:22, 4 September 2012 (BST)
 
A bit too ugly in my opinion. The content is a bit limited, but ok. [[User:Peralta|-- Johnny Twotoes]] 02:13, 4 September 2012 (BST)
 
I always liked where you and Trips were going with the zombie skill pages. Hope to see you continue with these. As for the obscure joke, I originally thought you were referring to The Zombeatles, who are a musical group that dress as zombies and cover Beatles songs. However, I see that the image you use is that of Blue Heart, fictional radio jock and narrarator in the film Zombi 3. I assume the obscure connection is that Blue Heart broadcasts music to the zombie population in the film and groaning zombies broadcast survivor locations in Urban Dead. Am I close? Oh and I'm for this as featured. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>03:15, 4 September 2012 (UTC)</sub>
:Basically, the playlist on his desk is simply a note with "Play Beatles Song" in bright red. As for continuing I'm working on Bellow at the minute but I'm really going to need some fierce-ass research for it. If this one goes through I'll probably put the effort into the full Memories of Life tree; I think I have a solid start on most if not all of them. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:25, 4 September 2012 (BST)
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====[[Weather]]====
Was [[UDWiki:Featured_Articles/Good_Articles/Archive#Weather|unanimously approved as a Good Article]] in January 2011, but never received Featured Article status. Also, is fantastic. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)
 
:I'm officially '''extending the candidacy discussion'''. Please comment below. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:04, 2 September 2012 (BST)
 
=====Comments (Weather)=====
'''Meh''' I prefer [[Snow]] and [[Fog]] myself. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  21:24, 23 August 2012 (BST)
 
I like it, but I want more of it before I'd say yes for it as an FA. More or less, have it get fleshed out first. More flavor text, in particular. It feels lacking for an FA on that topic. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 00:20, 24 August 2012 (BST)
:Such as? I removed the flavor text because of POV. What sort of things would you like to see expanded?-[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 02:21, 24 August 2012 (BST)
::To be honest, I'm not sure. Maybe some historical notes on weather patterns? Make some humorous references to the effects of global warming in Malton? I dunno. It feels like it could use another paragraph or two at the end, to me, and maybe making the stuff at the end be formatted a bit differently? As I said, I like it, but I just want more of it. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 17:30, 24 August 2012 (BST)
As Gameplay. Should be grandfathered in. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>00:57, 24 August 2012 (UTC)</sub>
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====[[You know you've been playing Urban Dead too much when]]====
Substantial, hilarious, and now consistently formatted. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)
 
=====Comments (You know you've been playing Urban Dead too much when)=====
'''Yep''' Might put an introduction paragraph on it. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  21:26, 23 August 2012 (BST)
 
Yes. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 00:20, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
'''Yes'''I like the idea of having more humorous pages grace the frontpage. This is straightforward and accessible. Might add "Comments on Featured Articles/Candidates" to the list though--{{User:A.schwan/sig}} <sub>Friday, 24 August 2012</sub>
 
Add intro. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>00:57, 24 August 2012 (UTC)</sub>
 
'''yes''' {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 02:53, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
Personally, I've never liked these type of articles because they strike me as somewhat "lazy," but this one is not too bad.-[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 04:25, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
'''no''' Reading that was tedious... other than 130. --[[Image:Kirsty_Cotton_Header.png|60px|Open the Box|link=User:Kirsty_cotton]] <sub>[[Organization_XIII|<span style="color: grey">Org XIII</span>]]</sub> <sup>[[User:Kirsty_cotton/alts|<span style="color: blue">Alts</span>]]</sup> 02:09, 25 August 2012 (BST)
 
'''no''' A bit ugly and while some are worth reading, others are just stupid, making the read tedious (as if 160+ of those isn't enough to make it tedious...) [[User:Peralta|-- Johnny Twotoes]] 01:03, 31 August 2012 (BST)
 
I added a brief intro; feel free to expand/edit. Does this reach approval or does the length objection stand? {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:07, 2 September 2012 (BST)
:I'm afraid it still stands :/ [[User:Peralta|-- Johnny Twotoes]] 17:05, 3 September 2012 (BST)
 
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====[[RNG]]====
A clear explanation of the concept, as well as how it features in Urban Dead. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)
 
=====Comments (RNG)=====
'''Against''' Just, plain, dull. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  21:26, 23 August 2012 (BST)
 
I'm for it. While it is dry, I think it's still well-written and is something that could use more public awareness. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 00:22, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
I prefer the Old Testimate version. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>00:57, 24 August 2012 (UTC)</sub>
 
'''Yes''' it's great. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 02:54, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
'''Against''' Merge with groove theory and we'll talk.-[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 02:58, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
'''Yes''', I up to reading two and this one was by far more entertaining.  It would be nice to throw a paragraph at the end about Groove Theory. --[[Image:Kirsty_Cotton_Header.png|60px|Open the Box|link=User:Kirsty_cotton]] <sub>[[Organization_XIII|<span style="color: grey">Org XIII</span>]]</sub> <sup>[[User:Kirsty_cotton/alts|<span style="color: blue">Alts</span>]]</sup> 02:13, 25 August 2012 (BST)
 
I'm going to work on this article soon. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>19:35, 2 September 2012 (UTC)</sub>
:While you work on it, would you rather we leave discussion open or close this as unsuccessful and resubmit later? {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:09, 2 September 2012 (BST)
::Leave it open. I'll make suggestion changes from the comments. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>22:24, 2 September 2012 (UTC)</sub>
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====[[The Borehamwood 100]]====
Since we need some non-Malton featured articles other than [[Borehamwood|these]] and [[The Fall of Monroeville Mall|two]]. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)
 
=====Comments (The Borehamwood 100)=====
'''Yep''' Needs reformatting. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  22:24, 23 August 2012 (BST)
 
Not until the formatting is fixed to be something legible. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 00:35, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
yes anyway. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 03:00, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
Also might be more interesting if the dead were arranged chronologically, or at least alphabetically.-[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 17:46, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
Needs some work, mainly formatting and some clear structure [[User:Peralta|-- Johnny Twotoes]] 01:08, 31 August 2012 (BST)
 
Is anyone going to work on this one, or should I close it as unsuccessful? {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:12, 2 September 2012 (BST)
:No experience in the matter and no time to edit it. Maybe I'll look into it at a later date, but for now you can close it as far as I'm concerned. [[User:Peralta|-- Johnny Twotoes]] 00:48, 3 September 2012 (BST)
:Wait for Ross' comment on this one. He'd be the one to fix it, I would think. If he doesn't want to, then maybe close it as unsuccessful? Seems like consensus is kinda split. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 05:35, 3 September 2012 (BST)
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====[[Building Types]]====
Quite complete & informative. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)
:I'm '''extending the candidacy''' on this one while formatting goes on. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:13, 2 September 2012 (BST)
 
=====Comments (Building Types)=====
'''Yep''' But needs reformatting. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  22:21, 23 August 2012 (BST)
:especially moving the contents list to the right. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  22:25, 23 August 2012 (BST)
::Ugh, I tried moving it but the author used clear:both on the images. That needs to be fixed. Formatting seems rather patched together. I like it otherwise. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>01:23, 24 August 2012 (UTC)</sub>
 
It's a bit ugly and the topic just seems dumb to me... Wouldn't be totally against I guess. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 03:01, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
The tall buildings part is a bit awkwardly placed, the table of contents messes up the entire introduction and lay-out imo and the whole article would benefit from some further editing. [[User:Peralta|-- Johnny Twotoes]] 00:51, 3 September 2012 (BST)
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====[[Great Fire of 1912]]====
Probably the most important pre-2005 incident in Malton history. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)
:The banner is gone, so I'm '''extending the candidacy discussion'''. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:17, 2 September 2012 (BST)
 
=====Comments (Great Fire of 1912)=====
Dump the ALiM banner up top and maybe we'll talk.-[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 04:55, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
'''For''' Shit's so [[ALiM]] --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  10:32, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
Definitely for it, since it's one of the best known fictional events in the history of Malton. That said, I'm with MHSstaff: dump the ALiM banner. I might even suggest removing the [[2 Cola]] link near the top, since I wouldn't want stuff like that being only a click or two away from the front page. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 15:48, 24 August 2012 (BST)
:Ha. Lord do I love boobs. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  15:55, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
'''Against''' its stupid. Is there something funny about it I'm missing? [[User:Standard Zombie|Standard Zombie]] 17:18, 26 August 2012 (BST)
 
Removed the ALiM banner. For it. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>19:45, 2 September 2012 (UTC)</sub>
 
Yes and also please can we nominate ALIM itself haha {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 02:01, 4 September 2012 (BST)
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====[[Guides:Feral Death-Cultist Guide]]====
Solid Good Guide. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)


=====Comments (Guides:Feral Death-Cultist Guide)=====
Please give any feedback on the article. I'd love to work on it and get it onto FA. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 11:58, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
:I wonder if you can somehow graph all the big ruins somehow... a frequency distribution, for example (although the data points would be in ranges, e.g., repairs 50-75, 75-100, etc.). And maybe include something that allows the reader to get a better appreciation for how long it takes for a ruin to get to these triple digit states. But this looks prettty good! --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 14:06, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
::Such a table could easily be added, it is only 1ap a day after all. --[[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup>  19:47, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
:::Great ideas- Ross what resources do we have cataloguing all the large repairs? The only one I can recall straight away is the ruinbag template and the 3-D repairs template. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 23:19, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
::::I think [[404]] have a repair gallery as well. As per my note on Kevans page I know the repair record has been totally smashed since. --[[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup>  21:37, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::Do you foresee a time in which you'd be comfortable sharing the figure and proof? {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 23:15, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
:The biggest ruins could be presented as a template with some image, or the ExtremeRepair template, to make them more trophy like? Article is sweet and deserves to get featured! -- [[User:Jack&#39;s Inflamed Sense Of Rejection|∀UDIO∀TTACK]] ([[User talk:Jack&#39;s Inflamed Sense Of Rejection|talk]]) 21:40, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
::Good suggestion, I'll make a nice table or something. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 23:19, 4 July 2018 (UTC)


Remove mention of Feral Undead and feral zombies at top and work on more comprehensive intro to the concept. Tactics in this article are not specific to the FU or to feral zombies in general and the concept of Death Culting is not self explanatory. --{{User:A.schwan/sig}} <sub>Friday, 24 August 2012</sub>
====[[5th of November]]====
:I really like the parachuting box idea. But as Schwan. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  10:33, 24 August 2012 (BST)
The 5th of November is the day when survivors lead an army to attempt to retake Ridleybank, and zombies fight to protect the zombie homeland. Also, it is an event that happens next month, so it would make sense to feature it then. [[User:Jerran1|Jerran1]] <sup>[[NecroConnect|NecroConnect Creator/Admin]]</sup> 22:19, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
::I wouldn't remove the feral bits, since it ''is'' focussed on feral zombies who operate either completely on their own, or in such a losely-knit "group" like FU. While a lot of it can also be applied to coordinated groups, they have very different means. The FU references aren't that crucial, though, and could go if necessary.<br>As for death-culting in general, what else needs to explained? "fun things to do as a die-hard zombie when you get revived and want to use the assets of the breathers against them" is IMHO summing up everything neatly in a single sentence, but I might be biased. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 16:03, 24 August 2012 (BST)
:Did the event actually not occur in 2011, 2013, and 2014? If so, something to that effect should be stated in the article. If not, some content/information on those years should be added. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:31, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
::I honestly don't know. I stopped playing Urban Dead for a few years, and i've never had a part in planning it until this year. [[User:Jerran1|Jerran1]] <sup>[[NecroConnect|NecroConnect Creator/Admin]]</sup> 22:45, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
:I always loved these events and tried to check them out often as I could, sadly though this article is generally not very good. And from memory most of the events were suicide runs that ended a day or so. I would not recommend this for featured article status. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 14:40, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
:As the instigator of one of those suicide runs I think there's some value to it. Everybody knows that in the end, it always results in a ruin, panick among the occasional trenchie and a lot of jabbing needing to be done afterwards. For the survivor side, it's a good way to come together and do what the game is about: fight against the inevitable fatal zombie maul or bite. I'd take a chance on that every day of the year, and whether it's over within the first 24 hours or it takes weeks to end, there's always some fun in the preparations, cooperation and aftermath you don't really see the rest of the year. That being said, I agree with DDR on the quality of the article. It's hastily structured, information is presented inconsistently and overall it's just quite ugly. Get that fixed and this'll have my vote. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 15:14, 22 July 2016 (UTC)


It needs a better introduction, prettying up, and a touch of refinement before it'll be ready, I think. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 15:49, 24 August 2012 (BST)


I'm the original creator, and I'm downright amazed to see that popping up more than 2 years after the fact. If there are any suggestions, I'm listening. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 16:03, 24 August 2012 (BST)
====[[Modern Suburbia: Surviving Level One]]====
:Besides getting revives, what other key differences do you see between a feral DC and a group DC? Touching on /  emphasizing that a little more would help distinguish this as a feral guide. Otherwise, as Aichon. It's not quite there yet but easily could be.-[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 17:34, 24 August 2012 (BST)
This is still one of the two beginner guides that I shout out to newbies when I run across them ingame (along with the basic [[First Day in Malton]]).  It was written while the city was redder than it is now, and could possibly use a bit of tweaking based on that fact (the main issue with revive points now, for instance, seems to be finding a manned and active one, not the overclogging of points). But the nuts and bolts of it is still 99% applicable. It's no-nonsense, tells you all the crucial stuff you actually need to know about how to survive the first couple levels in an over-caded city, and has a sense of humor to boot. Plus it even has the "good article" checkbox at the top!
::Internal revives is one thing. The other is the scope of actions accomplished. A coordinated group of DCs can easily hope to squash a tightly packed TRP like an NT or a hospital and get away with pinataing it. A single feral DC will need to be more picky to get the most bang for the buck, or to live with the consequences of not going the full mile. Some other tactics, like groaning from a barricaded building, are also more worthwhile for ferals than they are for parts of coordinated zombie groups. - But what mostly keeps me back is that I have little experience within coordinated death-cults. I'm most experienced with rhe feral death-cultist, so that is what I'm most comfortable writing about. Telling the Gore Corps how to go about Gore Corps'ing feels silly to me given the angle I take in actual play. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 21:15, 24 August 2012 (BST)


On second look, I retract what I said about removing ferals entirely. The first section has some things about revives specifically for them. Somewhere in an intro it might help to make the difference that is hinted at in this section more explicit. I still argue that the FU reference is out of place other than maybe as context in a reworked introduction. Personally, I would remove it as the FU and their policy on feral members is beside the point and not addressed as I see it in the guide proper. As for the intro, I think my problem with it boils down to the fact that it is written in a "this is a cat. It is going to do cat things" sort of style. In an intro, I would think that one should introduce the cat and hint at why the cat is worth talking about. In this case, the cat is the guide rather than the death-cultist. Forgive the opaque metaphor but that is the best way I can describe it. --{{User:A.schwan/sig}} <sub>Friday, 24 August 2012</sub>
-- [[User:Jen|'''Jen''']]<sup><span style="font-size:7pt;"> [[User_talk:Jen|<span style="color:darkblue">T</span>]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[SFHNAS|<span style="color:black">SFHNAS</span>]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[User:Jen/JL|<span style="color:darkgreen">PK</span>]]</span></sup> 14:09, 25 August 2014 (UTC)


Leave the Feral Undead alone. They wrote this guide and removing them from it erases a piece of UD history. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]]
:A minute read, it looks good to me. Worth updating if someone wants to stick their nose in. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 00:05, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 
:Needs a bit of an upgrade, still a worthwile read, but alass not the best looking page on the wiki. Could use some wiki-magic to make it more than a text wall. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 15:17, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
'''Against:''' Could benefit from some adjustments. Biassed left and right (the DEM doesn't maintain the RG and the mentioning of the Feral Undead in the intro, for example) and could use some general editing when it comes to lay-out and article length. [[User:Peralta|-- Johnny Twotoes]] 00:59, 3 September 2012 (BST)
:Where does it say DEM maintains the RG? The only mention of DEM I saw was that they invented it, which is an accurate statement, since they did. I agree with removing the FU reference, however, since that statement seems to be saying that FU has an exclusive claim on all non-independent feral zombies, which isn't necessarily true (e.g. Big Bashes are largely feral, and I think all of the hordes acknowledge their feral members, such as MOB with its Zealots). FU is definitely the purest of the feral groups, and they're certainly the most well known for catering specifically to ferals, so I wouldn't object to a mention regarding that elsewhere in the article, but we shouldn't be featuring an article with a sweeping generalization that's not entirely accurate right at the top. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 07:21, 3 September 2012 (BST)
::As Aichon said, DEM were the inventors and long-time hosters of the RG. As for bias, there is no need for NPOV in guides. FA has NPOV as a criteria, but as a quite malleable one. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 18:46, 3 September 2012 (BST)
 
To summarize:
#better intro that tells what is awesome about death-cultists
#prettier look (images?)
#broaden the aim or get more specific about ferals
#remove mention of FU
#less wordiness
#turn the bias down
1-4 look like things I could do. I'd just need time for that.<br>For 5, as Mark Twain has put it, "I am sorry to write such a long letter. I didn't have time to write a short one." I am not a native speaker, and my original proof-reader has gone idle since. I might tackle that, but not over night.<br>6 is not gonna happen. In a guide written by a death-cultist aimed at death-cultists, I reserve the right to mock the loopholes of the RG, typical trenchie shortcomings and as a side-dish the DEM as much as I like (which is a lot). --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 18:46, 3 September 2012 (BST)
:Quick note; DEM didn't invent the RG. The inventors may have been a part of DEM but they acted on their own. It was never in the DEM toolbox. I beleive the kept their own PKer list. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>19:08, 3 September 2012 (UTC)</sub>
::You probably should correct every single mention of the RG on the wiki then, since they almost all repeat the line saying that the DEM invented the RG and supplied its initial moderators before withdrawing from it. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 20:19, 3 September 2012 (BST)
 
: If you reserve the right to mock the DEM in the article, then this article simply isn't FA-worthy thanks to bias. I understand some of the controversy surrounding the DEM (and I agree on the point surrounding DEMON, which I refuse to use), but any bias makes it invalid for FA in my opinion, be it DEM-related or otherwise. [[User:Peralta|-- Johnny Twotoes]] 02:11, 4 September 2012 (BST)
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====[[Guides:Kill Probability]]====
====[[Survivor-Zombie Imbalance]]====
Extremely useful and well-done tables. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)
*<s>[[User:A Helpful Little Gnome/SandboxSZI|Progress page]]</s> ^See nominated page^
:Consensus seems to be positive, but I'd like to hear a couple more voices. '''Extending discussion.''' {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:18, 2 September 2012 (BST)
*[[UDWiki:Featured_Articles/Review/Archive#Survivor-Zombie_Imbalance|Previous FA]]


=====Comments (Guides:Kill Probability)=====
I'm using this as a workshop. Hopefully, we can get this featured. So, questions. How do we want this formatted? Do we want detailed history about the ratio (as is [[Survivor-Zombie Imbalance#The History|present]] in the current page)? What kind of theories/interpretations? What else? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 16:15, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
'''Meh'''. Sure I've seen this somewhere else, done in a better way. Perhaps one of the guides? --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  10:34, 24 August 2012 (BST)
:Perhaps you mean [[Guides:Damage Per Action]]? I find G:DPA more comprehensive and grokkable, while the advantage of G:KP is rather detail and exhaustiveness. Not sure if either is FA material. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 16:23, 24 August 2012 (BST)


Easily my favorite data-heavy presentation anywhere on the wiki. Beautifully presented in a clear manner. Definitely deserving of FA status. It needs to be seen by more people. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 16:14, 24 August 2012 (BST)
01:45, 28 December 2013 (UTC) Updated. Marked a couple of sections that could use input.


As Aichon. The charts alone rock.-[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 17:28, 24 August 2012 (BST)
=====Comments (Survivor-Zombie Imbalance)=====


Clear, comprehensible and it looks good :) I'm all for! [[User:Peralta|-- Johnny Twotoes]] 01:01, 3 September 2012 (BST)
Graph & summary: I enjoy the horizontal month/year labels better compared to the old mm/yyyy formats, more readable. The events and update pointers are great. Good work I love it!
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====[[Harman for the Holidays]]====
Event Details: I found this an informative read and even clicked through to read about events I never knew about. I don't feel the details are required, but provide a nice historical context without clicking through. Perhaps kept out of the way near the bottom or an archive link, to supplement the summary data, for those curious to know more?
Quite the event from the look of it. Also super-flavorful. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)
:'''Extending Discussion.''' {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:20, 2 September 2012 (BST)


=====Comments (Harman for the Holidays)=====
Theories: My only theory as to why Survivors outnumber Zombies, and I suffer this too, is that as humans we are morbidly drawn to a very believable (and not completely impossible) zombie apocalypse. Playing a survivor embodies this attraction. That said, after surviving a while one does get more involved, and sees the broader reason of assisting the ratios for the benefit of all fun.
Incomplete. Who won? Is this an event or a song contest? Either way, that information is missing.-[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 03:48, 24 August 2012 (BST)
:Will update with winner and link to Harman for the Holidays 2:Revenge of the Harman once I dig the winner out of my archives. In answer to your question, it was an event that was centered around a song contest.--{{User:A.schwan/sig}} <sub>Friday, 24 August 2012</sub>
::Done and done--{{User:A.schwan/sig}} <sub>Friday, 24 August 2012</sub>
What happened with the decorations and caroling contests?-[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 17:39, 24 August 2012 (BST)
:The caroling contest winner is flagged on the page next to the title of the winning song and on the discussion page. The decorations contest was dropped for lack of sufficient formal entries, opting instead for the lights map which shows that substantial anonymous decorating was done. --{{User:A.schwan/sig}} <sub>Saturday, 25 August 2012</sub>
I'm in favor. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 16:26, 24 August 2012 (BST)
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====[[Invasion of Gibsonton]]====
[[User:Wez|Wez]] 15:08, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
A historical event with a well-written article. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)
:We need more comments on this one. '''Extending discussion.''' {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:22, 2 September 2012 (BST)


=====Comments (Invasion of Gibsonton)=====
:Awesome! I'll try to include Rooster's history stuff in the current page with updates, and stick it somewhere in the page lower down. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 19:00, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Need to fix those red links. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  11:14, 24 August 2012 (BST)
:I just fixed the only red links I saw. Any comments? {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 01:51, 31 August 2012 (BST)


Aye. One of the few PK events to follow standard battle format on UDWiki. Would mind if this were a historical event. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>19:50, 2 September 2012 (UTC)</sub>
:Not a fan. Interesting read for the veteran player (and Kevan...), but very little added value as a whole. Not so much the content that puts me on the "no"-side, I think it's the subject itself. Do we really want to Feature an article on the front page that has the decline of the player base as its first visual? Might scare new players, so no from me. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 15:20, 22 July 2016 (UTC)


I'm for it. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 07:23, 3 September 2012 (BST)
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====[[Malton]]====
====[[the Edson Building]]====
Now that there's a mini-timeline, let's see if this gets featured. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)
It's one of the most fleshed out minor location pages, and one of the main reasons I'm nominating this is so I can get the right feedback so I can get it to FA-quality. I'm proud of it as it is (and it's being more integrated with the rest of the area every time I edit it), but I want to get something new up here. Thanks in advance! {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 20:45, 28 May 2013 (BST)
 
=====Comments (the Edson Building)=====
=====Comments (Malton)=====
It looks pretty good. A couple comments: the article says the building is eight stories, but [[:File:Edsonbuildingœ.jpg|the accompanying photo]] only seems to be 4-5 stories. Also, it's probably a good idea to incorporate the in-game description of the building into the article (as it's a "canon" source), whether directly or subtly - I'm not in the area or I would visit and look up how the building appears in-game. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:42, 28 May 2013 (BST)
Yes. Maybe change the last paragraph so that its not so present tense. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>02:20, 24 August 2012 (UTC)</sub>
:Thanks! I changed the amount of stories the building has to four. Yeah, I've been thinking about that, but I'm not even close to that area. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 22:55, 28 May 2013 (BST)


As Vapor. Also, it's missing [[BB3]] in 2010, which, together with RRF and MOB, helped to swing the game's ratio much more towards the zombie side than it had been in quite awhile. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 16:43, 24 August 2012 (BST)


Changes made. Further comments? {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:27, 2 September 2012 (BST)
Move the contents line below the header and align it right. Makes the page so much more neater. --[[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User:Rosslessness/Safehouse_Hatred|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]  23:08, 28 May 2013 (BST)
:I was for it already. I just thought it would be better with those changes (which it is, now that they've been made :P). More opinions would be welcome though, since otherwise it's just us having commented on it. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 06:59, 3 September 2012 (BST)
:Not sure what you mean by that, sorry? {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 23:16, 28 May 2013 (BST)
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::Like I edited it. --[[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User:Rosslessness/Safehouse_Hatred|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]  12:38, 29 May 2013 (BST)
:::Oh, I see, thanks :) Looks a lot better now indeed {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 12:41, 29 May 2013 (BST)
I think we're good with this. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 00:34, 26 June 2013 (BST)
:I'm still not sure if I'm comfortable with its featuring unless someone goes to the building and incorporates its interior/exterior description. I'd suggest putting this on hold for a bit; I can add the info if BB4 heads through Lukinswood... {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 05:08, 26 June 2013 (BST)
::I think I'll pop by then, since I'm only a couple suburbs away. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:00, 21 July 2013 (BST)
:::Since Gnome [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_Edson_Building&curid=38450&diff=2084216&oldid=2074096&rcid=2156761 added it], I'm now in favor of featuring. Any further comments anyone? {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 02:19, 22 July 2013 (BST)
::::I think we're actually good this time. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 01:55, 19 October 2013 (BST)


====[[Possible Causes for the Situation]]====
'''Update - ''' Small lay-out issues and timeline updated. Any progress on getting this featured? {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 13:47, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Explains the newspapers and other theories. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)
:Wow, this page still exists? And people still care about applications filed three years ago (the last time the page was used by anyone)? --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"></span>]]</span>''' 18:00, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
:'''Extending discussion''' in case someone wants to work on this one. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:32, 2 September 2012 (BST)
:Sure, looks like people are happy with this. If no one does it themselves, I'll remember to feature this (once I recall how...) in a few days. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 00:45, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 
::I've made a habit of revitalizing parts of UD, this one seemed fun enough :) {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 08:21, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
=====Comments (Possible Causes for the Situation)=====
:::Okay, I've '''featured''' it. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:30, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Not big on the title but I like this one more than [[Malton Incident]]. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>05:24, 24 August 2012 (UTC)</sub>
:As vape. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  10:44, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
It needs a lot of cleaning up and formatting before it'd be ready. Also, a proper introduction. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 16:52, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
I kind like this one, both from a fiction/backstory standpoint and the connection to an in-game item (newspapers).-[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 18:26, 24 August 2012 (BST)
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====[[Salt The Land Policy]]====
And a major policy on the Zombie side. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)
:'''Extending discussion''' - please comment further on this one. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:34, 2 September 2012 (BST)
 
=====Comments (Salt The Land Policy)=====
'''Yep''' --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  21:20, 23 August 2012 (BST)
 
'''Abstain''' - The policy itself is relevant, but the taint of Extinction's grubby zergling fingers is hard to wash off. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"></span>]]</span>''' 16:50, 24 August 2012 (BST)
:I really feel we're beyond that now. Extinction are, and for some of us, always have been joke. Many more serious groups play this way. Just delete any mention of the zerging fuckers. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  16:53, 24 August 2012 (BST)
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====[[Tactical Resource Point]]====
Explains an important Urban Dead concept well. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)
 
=====Comments (Tactical Resource Point)=====
I think this could be fleshed out more. -[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 03:55, 24 August 2012 (BST)
:Cross link with [[Spawning]], flesh it out a bit, explain how it works ingame. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  11:22, 24 August 2012 (BST)
::You just want Spawning linked. :P But yes, it does need a lot more fleshing out. Perhaps some discussion regarding their importance in different situations. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 17:00, 24 August 2012 (BST)
:::Also something about good trp clusters may be a good addition. The classic NT,Factory,Hospital set up is always a winner. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  17:03, 24 August 2012 (BST)
::::Exactly. That'd be a great addition. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 17:35, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
I might work on making these changes, so I'm leaving this one in discussion for a little bit. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:36, 2 September 2012 (BST)
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====[[Tidal Tactics]]====
A major tactic article. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)
:'''Extending discussion.''' {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:36, 2 September 2012 (BST)
 
=====Comments (Tidal Tactics)=====
Probably yes. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  11:23, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
Wall of text. It needs some more stuff to help break it up a bit. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 17:01, 24 August 2012 (BST)
:+Image. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 00:55, 25 August 2012 (BST)
::Mis did some additional work, and we ended up talking about it a bit on my talk page. I guess I'm at a marginal "yes". I still think reading it is a bit onerous. More opinions would be useful. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 06:58, 3 September 2012 (BST)
:::Fiddled with some of the low-level headers again, centring them to produce a little more white space. Unsure of it though as the long image throws one of them slightly off-centre. Also added another image, and made sure all images now have screenreader-friendly alt text. If you're still not sold I could probably split the paragraphs up, retaining the wording but introducing more bite-sized nuggets of text to make it seem a bit more digestible; this would probably also alleviate that off-centre thing too. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 16:02, 3 September 2012 (BST)
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====[[Firearms]]====
Includes images & informative table. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)
 
=====Comments (Firearms)=====
Not against it. It's exacrly what you expect and not ugly either. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 03:08, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
'''Against''' It's not good, it's just functional. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  10:31, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
I'm for it. It's good, functional, laid out very well, and has all the information you could want. Yes, it's mostly just data, but I think this is one of the few examples of a data-heavy page being done well. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 15:44, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
I hate the page design, and it's functional as Ross says. It really should be merged with the other weapon articles and resubmitted.-[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 17:52, 24 August 2012 (BST)
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====[[Melee Weapons]]====
Counterpart to [[Firearms]]. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)
 
=====Comments (Melee Weapons)=====
'''Nope''' See my comments on firearms. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  10:40, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
Yep. See my comments on firearms. :P {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 16:47, 24 August 2012 (BST)
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====[[Useful Items]]====
Can you tell I'm running out of descriptions for these nominations? {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)
 
=====Comments (Useful Items)=====
 
Design is pretty ugly and is hard to read. Not very interesting.-[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 03:52, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
See Firearms comment. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  10:46, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
I'm for it. See comments for firearms above. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 17:03, 24 August 2012 (BST)
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==Group Pages==
==Group Pages==
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#'''Generally Awesome''' - This is a joke criteria, hence it is very serious.
#'''Generally Awesome''' - This is a joke criteria, hence it is very serious.
===Group Page Candidates===
===Group Page Candidates===
====[[Militant Order of Barhah/Locator]]====
''Submit candidates here.''
I like maps and timelines, and this is one of the more detailed ones for a group.-[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 18:17, 24 August 2012 (BST)
:'''Extending discussion.''' Please comment. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 19:29, 3 September 2012 (BST)


=====Comments (MOB Locator)=====
====[[East Becktown Defenders]]====
Yep, good meta information. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  18:30, 24 August 2012 (BST)
Besides being one of the most succesful recently founded groups, the Wiki-page of this group combines great design (with several more dynamic pieces) with tools designed specifically for and by the group, and the occasional recreative banter.
I think giving newer elements of the UD community a front page presence once in a while could only be beneficial. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 11:55, 20 July 2016 (UTC)


'''Yes'''. Thanks for submitting these group pages, MHSstaff! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 23:17, 24 August 2012 (BST)
=====Comments (East Becktown Defenders)=====
 
Clean design and TRP status reporter is cool. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:30, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
I'm in favor, but I'm extremely biased, so I'd love to hear other's opinions. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 20:47, 3 September 2012 (BST)
:Glad you like it. We're actually continuously developping new tools for the group, as well as more dynamic elements for the page. We're particularly fond of the Quotes-template and are using what we learned there now for a bigger and more complicated block :) {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 09:56, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 
What's stopping me liking this one is how the map of the current suburb isn't keyed, and it's generally hard to read where the MOB-based changes to it have been added. I know it'd be a pain in the hoop to do but a stripped down version just with names (linked) and the explicitly-given statuses (lit, ruined, etc) coloured would be a whole lot easier to grok. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 21:10, 3 September 2012 (BST)
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====[[RRF/ZomboMain|ZomboTracker]]====
A hilarious and well-written counterpart to [[Weather]]. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 20:53, 23 August 2012 (BST)
:'''Extending discussion'''. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 22:42, 2 September 2012 (BST)
 
=====Comments (ZomboTracker)=====
'''Against''' its a fun page, but the super live trackers haven't been updated in two years. Would need to imply some bits are historic. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Persons Of Note|'''WHO????''']]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]]  21:15, 23 August 2012 (BST)
:As Ross. We should update it; I actually like it more for its technical features, both with the wiki switching codes used for the tabs and the maps showing targets and number of times hit as well as horde paths. -[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 02:19, 24 August 2012 (BST)
 
I'm for it. Regardless of if it's been updated, it's a unique page that deserves to be featured. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 17:06, 24 August 2012 (BST)
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===User Page Candidates===
===User Page Candidates===
''Submit candidates here.''
''Submit candidates here.''
==== [[User:A_Helpful_Little_Gnome|Gnome's World]] ====
nuff said. --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 20:56, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
:This one's [[UDWiki:Featured_Articles#User_Pages|already featured]]... XP {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 01:54, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
:Thanks for the compliment though. :) --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:05, 22 July 2016 (UTC)


==Reviewing Featured Articles==
==Reviewing Featured Articles==
''This section is for current [[UDWiki:Featured Articles|Featured Articles]] for which serious objections or concerns have been raised, and are thus under review as to whether they should retain their FA status.''
''This section is for current [[UDWiki:Featured Articles|Featured Articles]] for which serious objections or concerns have been raised, and are thus under review as to whether they should retain their FA status.''
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==Older Submissions==
==Older Submissions==

Latest revision as of 23:15, 6 July 2018

Featured Article Candidates
Evaluation for featured article (FA) status takes place here. Any page is eligible to be submitted for evaluation, including group pages and user pages. The only requisite is that the page follows the criteria; it doesn't need to be satisfied absolutely. Ultimately the page should be something the community wants to be placed on the main page, where it's highly visible and assumed to be exemplary; it should fulfill some notion of special.

In determining whether or not a page becomes featured, the candidate will be discussed and if there are no major concerns raised at the end of 7 days, the page will achieve featured status. During the 7 days any major concerns can be addressed, either by refuting them or improving the page to fix the problem. If discussion on the candidate goes further than 7 days, participants may continue discussing or altering the page without the submission being automatically closed.

Please note this is not a vote. When making a supporting or opposing claim, back up the claim with reasons or evidence. However, there should be at least three users commenting on a submission for the submission process to be considered valid. This is to avoid a page slipping through unnoticed.

Be aware that the criteria for different types of candidates—articles, groups, and user pages—changes to reflect different requirements; it does not make sense, for example, to have "neutrality" as a criteria for user pages. Remember these are guidelines only and candidates do not need to follow the criteria to the letter.

Articles that achieve featured article status should have the FA star (Featured Article) placed on the page.

If at sometime, after a page has achieved featured status, substantial changes are made that seem to degenerate the page past the level at which it was submitted, then the page can be resubmitted here and be re-evaluated. The same criteria and process follows; if a major concern is raised that cannot be addressed, then the page loses its featured status.

Format

  • Submit candidates under the appropriate header (Articles, Group pages, User Pages), beneath its respective Candidates header.
  • Make a level four header with the linked name of the page you are submitting.
  • Make a level five header labelled Comments and put in brackets the name of the page your submitting (so that someone can jump to individual comment sections which otherwise would be identical and dysfunctional). The comment section is a free-for-all discussion, so there's no need for supporting or opposing headers, numbering or bullet-pointing, nor bolding anything.

Example

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Articles

These include glossary pages, event pages including historical events, locations, guides and tactics.

Article Criteria

  1. NPOV - The article must be from a neutral point of view; articles should avoid taking sides (such as emphasizing zombies over humans, or a particular group or opinion). Exceptions may be made, depending on the article and community decision.
  2. Complete - No major facts or details are neglected; it is finished as can be.
  3. Well Written - The writing is grammatically correct and clear; it communicates what it's trying to say.
  4. Generally Awesome - This is a joke criteria, hence it is very serious.

Article Candidates

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Big Game Ruin Hunting

I'd like some feedback on this article, it's on the shorter side but I think it concisely describes the context surrounding the sport and I've always tried to ensure it has the most up to date big AP records on there (as best I can).

Please give any feedback on the article. I'd love to work on it and get it onto FA. A ZOMBIE ANT 11:58, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

I wonder if you can somehow graph all the big ruins somehow... a frequency distribution, for example (although the data points would be in ranges, e.g., repairs 50-75, 75-100, etc.). And maybe include something that allows the reader to get a better appreciation for how long it takes for a ruin to get to these triple digit states. But this looks prettty good! --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 14:06, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Such a table could easily be added, it is only 1ap a day after all. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:47, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Great ideas- Ross what resources do we have cataloguing all the large repairs? The only one I can recall straight away is the ruinbag template and the 3-D repairs template. A ZOMBIE ANT 23:19, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
I think 404 have a repair gallery as well. As per my note on Kevans page I know the repair record has been totally smashed since. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:37, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Do you foresee a time in which you'd be comfortable sharing the figure and proof? A ZOMBIE ANT 23:15, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
The biggest ruins could be presented as a template with some image, or the ExtremeRepair template, to make them more trophy like? Article is sweet and deserves to get featured! -- ∀UDIO∀TTACK (talk) 21:40, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Good suggestion, I'll make a nice table or something. A ZOMBIE ANT 23:19, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

5th of November

The 5th of November is the day when survivors lead an army to attempt to retake Ridleybank, and zombies fight to protect the zombie homeland. Also, it is an event that happens next month, so it would make sense to feature it then. Jerran1 NecroConnect Creator/Admin 22:19, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Did the event actually not occur in 2011, 2013, and 2014? If so, something to that effect should be stated in the article. If not, some content/information on those years should be added. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 22:31, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
I honestly don't know. I stopped playing Urban Dead for a few years, and i've never had a part in planning it until this year. Jerran1 NecroConnect Creator/Admin 22:45, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
I always loved these events and tried to check them out often as I could, sadly though this article is generally not very good. And from memory most of the events were suicide runs that ended a day or so. I would not recommend this for featured article status. A ZOMBIE ANT 14:40, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
As the instigator of one of those suicide runs I think there's some value to it. Everybody knows that in the end, it always results in a ruin, panick among the occasional trenchie and a lot of jabbing needing to be done afterwards. For the survivor side, it's a good way to come together and do what the game is about: fight against the inevitable fatal zombie maul or bite. I'd take a chance on that every day of the year, and whether it's over within the first 24 hours or it takes weeks to end, there's always some fun in the preparations, cooperation and aftermath you don't really see the rest of the year. That being said, I agree with DDR on the quality of the article. It's hastily structured, information is presented inconsistently and overall it's just quite ugly. Get that fixed and this'll have my vote. PB&J 15:14, 22 July 2016 (UTC)


Modern Suburbia: Surviving Level One

This is still one of the two beginner guides that I shout out to newbies when I run across them ingame (along with the basic First Day in Malton). It was written while the city was redder than it is now, and could possibly use a bit of tweaking based on that fact (the main issue with revive points now, for instance, seems to be finding a manned and active one, not the overclogging of points). But the nuts and bolts of it is still 99% applicable. It's no-nonsense, tells you all the crucial stuff you actually need to know about how to survive the first couple levels in an over-caded city, and has a sense of humor to boot. Plus it even has the "good article" checkbox at the top!

-- Jen T | SFHNAS | PK 14:09, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

A minute read, it looks good to me. Worth updating if someone wants to stick their nose in. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:05, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Needs a bit of an upgrade, still a worthwile read, but alass not the best looking page on the wiki. Could use some wiki-magic to make it more than a text wall. PB&J 15:17, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Survivor-Zombie Imbalance

I'm using this as a workshop. Hopefully, we can get this featured. So, questions. How do we want this formatted? Do we want detailed history about the ratio (as is present in the current page)? What kind of theories/interpretations? What else? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 16:15, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

01:45, 28 December 2013 (UTC) Updated. Marked a couple of sections that could use input.

Comments (Survivor-Zombie Imbalance)

Graph & summary: I enjoy the horizontal month/year labels better compared to the old mm/yyyy formats, more readable. The events and update pointers are great. Good work I love it!

Event Details: I found this an informative read and even clicked through to read about events I never knew about. I don't feel the details are required, but provide a nice historical context without clicking through. Perhaps kept out of the way near the bottom or an archive link, to supplement the summary data, for those curious to know more?

Theories: My only theory as to why Survivors outnumber Zombies, and I suffer this too, is that as humans we are morbidly drawn to a very believable (and not completely impossible) zombie apocalypse. Playing a survivor embodies this attraction. That said, after surviving a while one does get more involved, and sees the broader reason of assisting the ratios for the benefit of all fun.

Wez 15:08, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Awesome! I'll try to include Rooster's history stuff in the current page with updates, and stick it somewhere in the page lower down. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 19:00, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Not a fan. Interesting read for the veteran player (and Kevan...), but very little added value as a whole. Not so much the content that puts me on the "no"-side, I think it's the subject itself. Do we really want to Feature an article on the front page that has the decline of the player base as its first visual? Might scare new players, so no from me. PB&J 15:20, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

the Edson Building

It's one of the most fleshed out minor location pages, and one of the main reasons I'm nominating this is so I can get the right feedback so I can get it to FA-quality. I'm proud of it as it is (and it's being more integrated with the rest of the area every time I edit it), but I want to get something new up here. Thanks in advance! PB&J 20:45, 28 May 2013 (BST)

Comments (the Edson Building)

It looks pretty good. A couple comments: the article says the building is eight stories, but the accompanying photo only seems to be 4-5 stories. Also, it's probably a good idea to incorporate the in-game description of the building into the article (as it's a "canon" source), whether directly or subtly - I'm not in the area or I would visit and look up how the building appears in-game. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 22:42, 28 May 2013 (BST)

Thanks! I changed the amount of stories the building has to four. Yeah, I've been thinking about that, but I'm not even close to that area. PB&J 22:55, 28 May 2013 (BST)


Move the contents line below the header and align it right. Makes the page so much more neater. --Rosslessness 23:08, 28 May 2013 (BST)

Not sure what you mean by that, sorry? PB&J 23:16, 28 May 2013 (BST)
Like I edited it. --Rosslessness 12:38, 29 May 2013 (BST)
Oh, I see, thanks :) Looks a lot better now indeed PB&J 12:41, 29 May 2013 (BST)

I think we're good with this. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:34, 26 June 2013 (BST)

I'm still not sure if I'm comfortable with its featuring unless someone goes to the building and incorporates its interior/exterior description. I'd suggest putting this on hold for a bit; I can add the info if BB4 heads through Lukinswood... Bob Moncrief EBDW! 05:08, 26 June 2013 (BST)
I think I'll pop by then, since I'm only a couple suburbs away. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 02:00, 21 July 2013 (BST)
Since Gnome added it, I'm now in favor of featuring. Any further comments anyone? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 02:19, 22 July 2013 (BST)
I think we're actually good this time. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:55, 19 October 2013 (BST)

Update - Small lay-out issues and timeline updated. Any progress on getting this featured? PB&J 13:47, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Wow, this page still exists? And people still care about applications filed three years ago (the last time the page was used by anyone)? -- Spiderzed 18:00, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Sure, looks like people are happy with this. If no one does it themselves, I'll remember to feature this (once I recall how...) in a few days. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:45, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
I've made a habit of revitalizing parts of UD, this one seemed fun enough :) PB&J 08:21, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
Okay, I've featured it. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 02:30, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Group Pages

Any group page or group subpage, whether active, inactive, or historical, can be submitted.

Group Page Criteria

  1. NPOV - There should be an NPOV lead or introduction, which explains who the group is (e.g. group type, structure, size, creation). Since it's expected that the article is created from the group's perspective, the rest of the page need not be neutral. The NPOV lead only applies to the main group page.
  2. Presentation - An interesting and original page design, brought about by the code and any images, is a possible way to satisfy this criterion. Writing style and content can also satisfy the criteria.
  3. Well Written - The writing is grammatically correct and clear; it communicates what it's trying to say.
  4. Generally Awesome - This is a joke criteria, hence it is very serious.

Group Page Candidates

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East Becktown Defenders

Besides being one of the most succesful recently founded groups, the Wiki-page of this group combines great design (with several more dynamic pieces) with tools designed specifically for and by the group, and the occasional recreative banter. I think giving newer elements of the UD community a front page presence once in a while could only be beneficial. PB&J 11:55, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Comments (East Becktown Defenders)

Clean design and TRP status reporter is cool. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 02:30, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Glad you like it. We're actually continuously developping new tools for the group, as well as more dynamic elements for the page. We're particularly fond of the Quotes-template and are using what we learned there now for a bigger and more complicated block :) PB&J 09:56, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

User Pages

Any user page or content can be submitted. For example, journals, works of fiction or stories related to zombies or Urban Dead. Note that user pages being submitted should have their own, dedicated page (a subpage).

User Page Criteria

  1. Presentation - An interesting and original page design, brought about by the code and any images, is a possible way to satisfy this criterion. Writing style and content can also satisfy the criteria. User pages that have content consistent with guides or wiki rantings still need to be accurate and complete, similar to the Article Criteria.
  2. Well Written - The writing is grammatically correct and clear; it communicates what it's trying to say.
  3. Generally Awesome - This is a joke criteria, hence it is very serious.

User Page Candidates

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Gnome's World

nuff said. --hagnat 20:56, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

This one's already featured... XP Bob Moncrief EBDW! 01:54, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the compliment though. :) --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 02:05, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Reviewing Featured Articles

This section is for current Featured Articles for which serious objections or concerns have been raised, and are thus under review as to whether they should retain their FA status.


Older Submissions

Older submissions can be found in the archive. The archive of Featured Article reviews is located here. For even older submissions, when the good article process was used, see that archive.