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Aichon

ˈīˌkän :Talk

Please be aware of the following guidelines before posting here.

• New conversations should be started at the bottom using a level two header (e.g. ==Header==).
• I like to keep conversations wherever they start, but if a conversation ends up here, I will keep it here.
• I will format comments for stylistic reasons, delete comments for whatever reason, and generally do anything else within reason.

Thanks. —Aichon—

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Style up.

Your pages are sexy. Im looking at revamping the zombie skills page, converting it into a hub with each page having its own page. Here's an example, any thoughts on styling it up? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 14:51, 16 April 2010 (BST)

Heh, well, style isn't something that comes naturally for me. I spent a few months figuring out what my pages should look like, and threw out several designs that initially seemed promising. I can recognize decent design usually, but I'm not good at producing it. Anyway, I'm responding now to let you know I'm not ignoring you, but that I want to take a bit more to think over it. Any timeline you have on this? I have one idea regarding displaying the entire hierarchy at the top of each page, but it was taking longer to make than I expected. Aside from that idea, I don't have anything new at the moment. I'd change the shade of green though, since it glares a bit. Something a bit muted would work better, I think (#cec or #aca are decent, though you could go darker to #8a8 or the like if you want). I'll look at it again and think over it a bit more later. —Aichon— 05:24, 17 April 2010 (BST)

Two pence here. I agree on the darker green, but I'm thinking instead of displaying the whole skill hierarchy, just the particular tree in question (Memories tree, Vigor tree, etc) would be all that is needed. 13:39, 17 April 2010 (BST)

I was going to display the tree horizontally. Or rather, display each main branch of the tree under its own column. It'd be using the same amount of vertical space as your idea, but it'd fill out the horizontal better, give better utility, and would also give them a clearer idea of where they were in the hierarchy. Anyway, it's almost 8am here...bed time! —Aichon— 13:44, 17 April 2010 (BST)

As i started the project about a year ago, there's no hurry. But thanks. Nice Idea about the tree. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 14:34, 17 April 2010 (BST)

Looking good. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 10:37, 29 April 2010 (BST)

UDMap

Hey, Aichon, I made another super easy change to one of your scripts, if you're interested. All I did was replace the redrum map links with links to the DSS map. I'm not sure what the best external map is, but at least DSS works. So, here's the script. - Cam moo 19:00, 21 April 2010 (BST)

Huh...coulda sworn I had updated that one already, but you're absolutely right, I hadn't. Thanks a lot! I'll update it later today since I'm heading out in just a sec here. And yep, I was planning to switch all of my scripts to use the DSS map soon, since I prefer it to the aypok map that some of them are linking to at the moment. —Aichon— 19:11, 21 April 2010 (BST)

Actually, shoot, I just realized that I messed that up. The world map links to DSS, but the suburb map links to aypok. I have no idea how I didn't notice that, but this one links to aypok on both of them. The DSS map is nicer, so maybe the first one is better, but I don't know how to have the suburb map link to DSS, since the urls use a different format than the redrum/aypok maps do. Sorry about that! This is why I don't write scripts. - Cam moo 19:29, 21 April 2010 (BST)

Heh, well, many thanks. I'll take a look at things once I get a chance and see what I can come up with (helping to operate a university lecture at the moment, so unable to work on scripts right now). Regardless of what does or doesn't work, pointing out the problem in the first place is massively helpful, since I don't personally use those links too often (I usually use the similar links in my GPS script). —Aichon— 20:08, 21 April 2010 (BST)

DAMN YOU!!!

You deserve the promotion... why not stay in it? It's yours for the taking... -_∞ Poodle of Doom _∞ 21:03, 11 July 2010 (BST)

Even if I did "deserve" it (and that's very questionable, at best), that doesn't mean I actually want it. Anyway, I gave my reasons for withdrawing. They're pretty self-explanatory. I don't have any desire to have the position as a status symbol, nor do I currently want to have the responsibility of choosing who does and doesn't become a sysop. A quick look through some of the more controversial A/PM bids should clue you in why I don't want to deal with it. Becoming a sysop gave me access to buttons that help me do some work, so I was willing to accept that nomination, but being a 'crat only lets me do one more thing, and it's not something I'm interested in doing. I'm definitely being selfish about it, but that's my prerogative. —Aichon— 21:29, 11 July 2010 (BST)

Guess I didn't realize there was so little difference between the two jobs... -_∞ Poodle of Doom _∞ 21:34, 11 July 2010 (BST)

The only added 'perk' of the position of crat is the ability to change usergroup rights. Given that this wiki only has three usergroups (User, System Operator, Bureaucrat), it's not a major task. The only reason there's even more than one is to stop someone monopolising promotions, not to spread out a workload. If we had more usergoups (compare, say, Wikia's use of Rollback Rights, Autoconfirmed, etc), then it might be more of a job, but if you look through the A/PM archives you'll see that the crats don't actually have much more to do on a day to day basis. 21:37, 11 July 2010 (BST)

Backloggery

Finally got off my arse and registered over there. Aerthos is the name, if you look for me. Only put a few games in right now, but will likely update with the entire collection after I get moved into my new place in a week. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 23:40, 11 July 2010 (BST)

A/VD help

Yo, that sounds like a good idea, I'll do the same. --

 

 

 

 

09:04, 13 July 2010 (BST)

I've actually been doing it for awhile now, but I apparently missed a few folks. Maybe you can help though...I almost have SA's done, but I can't find his warning from November 2009... —Aichon— 09:08, 13 July 2010 (BST)

Nevermind, found it. Turns out it wasn't marked as a Misconduct, but that's what it was. —Aichon— 09:28, 13 July 2010 (BST)

UD Holiday Colorizer

I have decided to go on an endless crusade to locate and destroy the one remaining Christmas tree. As such, I don't want to not notice when I pass it. When you get back, could you make a Greasemonkey script that highlights holiday stuff? Like the UD Building State Colorizer does? Plez? --VVV ^RPMBG 07:03, 15 July 2010 (BST)

Do you use UD Building State Colorizer, by chance? If so, making it do that is such a simple addition (just one line) that I could tell you how to do it yourself. If not, then I could make a special version for you that just has that functionality, since I'd just chop out a lot of lines of text from UDBSC, basically, and replace them all with just one line. —Aichon— 07:29, 15 July 2010 (BST)

In fact, just in case you do feel comfortable with it, here's the line of code you'd need to add (feel free to change the color to whatever you like):

		{ str: 'Christmas tree',			colour: '#e53', bold: true, underline: true },

You'll find a block of code with a lot of lines that resemble this one (they'll start with that str: stuff). Just paste it in there anywhere. Doesn't matter, so long as it's after the var highlights = [ line and before the ]; line at the end of that block of similar-looking lines. If you need a custom script just for this use, let me know and I'll fix you up, since it's simply a matter of removing those lines and replacing them with the one I just gave you. —Aichon— 07:39, 15 July 2010 (BST)

That's surprisingly easy, and quite helpful. Thanx! --VVV ^RPMBG 23:54, 15 July 2010 (BST)

Haha you have no chance. Every time the last one gets destroyed an inactive logs in and places a new one >=D --

 

 

 

 

08:03, 15 July 2010 (BST)

That reminds me, I still have a pumpkin left over from Halloween. ~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 08:50, 15 July 2010 (BST)

I guess that would just give me something to do afterwards. --VVV ^RPMBG 23:54, 15 July 2010 (BST)

policy discussion

DDR made a mistake when writing the policy - he included Template:Inactive (which is a template for inactive sysops,) instead of Template:InactiveGroup (which is a template for inactive groups.) To keep within the rules, if/when he changes the link, he'll need permission of all voters. So I decided I would seek that now.

Basically, are you alright with the link being changed? Linkthewindow  Talk  09:16, 16 July 2010 (BST)

Yep. I had figured it was an obvious mistake (once you pointed it out). I'm actually not entirely convinced he needs our permission since it's only an example, isn't part of what's getting changed, and is framed with "may", though it's always better to be safe than sorry. —Aichon— 09:35, 16 July 2010 (BST)

web counter in private and group page

Hello, i want put into my and my group's pages a counter which will indicated how many people have seen it. Can i do it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hshhhhh (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

Yes. Look at the bottom of said page. --

 

 

 

 

09:29, 19 July 2010 (BST)

The Galbraith Hills Defense Union page has been accessed 3,500+ times. That's not terrible, but it's not great either. You need to get you name out. --VVV ^RPMBG 16:23, 19 July 2010 (BST)

Looks like the others have already answered the question. If you're looking to add an additional counter however, the answer is no, it is not possible. —Aichon— 18:26, 19 July 2010 (BST)

demo3

yo, having the code to be copied and pasted there is looking for trouble. we know some of the retards that come through DS, we'll just have to spend scores of time fixing it when they get said text that's meant to be copied and just replace it with their own code. the rest of what you've done looks bangin, but perhaps the code to be copied should appear below that sexy intro, not hidden as code. --

 

 

 

 

01:53, 20 July 2010 (BST)

Yeah, I was thinking about it still. I really wanted to clean up the top, since there is WAY too much unnecessary text there in the current DS, but I think you're right in that I may have gone too far for what is actually practical. I'm still just toying around with it in my spare time though, and by no means is it anywhere close to completion yet. I'm thinking I'll scrap the navigation template as it is and work it into a fancy header that will be uniform across the Suggestions pages (which I also intend to redesign), will junk the list of current suggestions from the bottom of the page and work them into said header, and will figure out a better place to put that dang TOC, since it just looks off where it is. Walls of text for page intros are bad and need to go. —Aichon— 03:36, 20 July 2010 (BST)

Fair. I really like the simplistic and stylish method of giving the information, it helps and fixes all that clutter, you're doing a fantastic job so far. --

 

 

 

 

14:48, 20 July 2010 (BST)

Switch statements for signatures

While I'm here, I'd like a little assistance or a lesson, I once had a status update on my signature that looked somewhat like what is shown here. As you can see, it was a simple code where I'd just implement a variable which linked directly to a template call like User:DanceDanceRevolution/online or User:DanceDanceRevolution/offline.

I want to do this again but without spamming up my namespace with templates. Would there be a way to have all of the statuses on one page in one code and have the specific ones only appear if I use the same variables eg "online" "offline" "idle" etc? I've had a look at if and switch templates and it's a whole new ballpark for me that I've never explored till now, any quick tips? --

 

 

 

 

16:41, 20 July 2010 (BST)

So, to make sure I'm clear on this, you have a single page in your namespace which will have the keyword on it, and that word is the variable you are using to reflect your status? And then, you want to include that page in a switch statement which will then select from among various signatures based on that status word? If so, then yes, it should be possible, though I'm not sure that I would advise it.

In terms of why I'd advise against it, as you know, templates on pages break when the page gets too large. Since you'd effectively be having the code for, say, 6-10 signatures in a single template call, that would mean that even if you're only using one of them at a time, you'd still be having all of that other unused code counting against the size of the page (this is a bit of an oversimplification of the problem, but it gets the gist across; if you want more details, let me know), which would make the pages you post on grow much more quickly than they would otherwise. If you kept the sigs small, it wouldn't be as big of an issue, but making them large would probably become problematic.

If you want to go ahead with it, the code is relatively straightforward, I think. It'd be along these lines:

{{switch
|{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/status}}
|case: ooo=CODE_FOR_OUT_OF_ORDER_SIG_HERE
|case: online=CODE_FOR_ONLINE_SIG_HERE
|...
|default=CODE_FOR_PLAIN_SIG_HERE
}}

Assuming that your User:DanceDanceRevolution/status page had the keyword on it, then that's the sort of thing you'd use to do it. And you'd obviously fill in some more signatures in that "..." area. You can see an example of me using a switch statement to do a countdown in my signature here (ignore the messy switch statement at the end, since it was hackish), but that's quite a bit simpler than what you're trying to do. Anyway, let me know if that answers your questions or if I lost you on a point somewhere. I'll be happy to clarify as I can if you have any further questions. —Aichon— 20:43, 20 July 2010 (BST)

You lost me somewhere...Yea, I know you were talking to DDR, but this conversation is worth my attention too since DDR did set up those status pages for myself... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 01:15, 21 July 2010 (BST)

Where'd I lose you? Also, as I said, I wouldn't recommend this method anyway. I think you guys were really doing it the best way before. —Aichon— 03:21, 21 July 2010 (BST)

Yeah, fair enough. Thanks for the help. --

 

 

 

 

07:31, 23 July 2010 (BST)

must thanked and praised you

for the impressive shadow coloring for text in your signature. so, uh can i use it for my signature? :P :P :P --Evan Arnoldi^{TalkStoriesTimeMachine} 16:35, 20 July 2010 (BST)

It looks like you've already figured out how to use it, and yep, I definitely think it's fine to borrow stuff from other people's code around here. :P You don't have to worry about crediting me for it either, since I actually borrowed the idea from Chief Seagull. —Aichon— 20:15, 20 July 2010 (BST)

its fine to borrow ppl codes? holy- brb stealing other ppl sig code :P still, thanks anyway --Evan Arnoldi^{TalkStoriesTimeMachine} 04:20, 21 July 2010 (BST)

Yep, you're welcome to borrow code from anyone around here, though, with sigs, it's best to make sure you don't make yours look like someone else's, since the sigs are supposed to be how we identify people quickly. Other than that though, it's mostly fair game. —Aichon— 04:38, 21 July 2010 (BST)

SoC

That stuff you're doing in sandbox looks pretty kewl, particularly demo page 13. Did you ever consider using a stealth external link for the forum? Like this: Forum. If you go through the trouble of changing the coloring of your hyperlinks and everything it just looks sleek imo. Just my two cents.  ;)--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 09:45, 21 July 2010 (BST)

Glad to see you like the blank page best. >_<

Anyway, I actually had considered it, and was still debating whether to use it or not. My reasoning was that a normal user would want to find the forum link quickly and easily, and having the icon next to it makes it immediately identifiable, since that is the purpose of the icon. Plus, having it look virtually identical to the other links means that people might just click on it thinking it'll take them to another wiki page and would be very surprised when it takes them off-site suddenly, which is good sometimes, but not other times. That said, clearly it detracts from the overall appearance of the page. I'm still on the fence. Maybe I can figure out some better way to make the link unique without the icon, but that'll be a challenge for another day, since I was just wrapping up for the night. —Aichon— 09:50, 21 July 2010 (BST)

Create an image that's a copy of the icon using the same colour as your text, insert it beside the link as an image, and that way it'll keep the familiar off-site visual cue, but blend in with the page better. 05:03, 23 July 2010 (BST)

Might give that a shot. It's a good idea, though in the meantime, since I'm basing the design entirely around our forum design, I went ahead and incorporated a highlight color from the forums. Not sure I like it though. —Aichon— 05:14, 23 July 2010 (BST)

The shadow tricks don't work anymore

the shadow effect text not appearing anymore on my signature and your signature. it just my computer, or the wiki disable the code? if it just my computer, please give me the troubleshooting so that the shadow on text do appear again. Crap, even the font appear as times new romans, i have set to wide latin and others... what the hell is going on?--Evan Arnoldi^{TalkStoriesTimeMachine} 10:33, 21 July 2010 (BST)

Looks like it's working fine to me for both of our signatures, so any issues must be on your end. If you've switched to using a different computer or Internet Explorer, that's probably the cause of the problem (you should use Chrome, Firefox, Safari, or anything else besides IE, pretty much), and it's worth pointing out that the shadow effect I use is relatively subtle, so merely viewing your monitor at different angles can make a big difference in how it appears. Beyond that...well, see paragraph two of this section. Sorry, but I don't troubleshoot computers. —Aichon— 10:41, 21 July 2010 (BST)

okay thanks, the problem are now solved.... some idiot turned off the javascript and ended with some script failure opening another site *facepalm* thank you for your time though :D--Evan Arnoldi^{TalkStoriesTimeMachine} 10:49, 21 July 2010 (BST)

The rebirth of DARIS

I was wondering if you could help with this. --Spoook 04:55, 23 July 2010 (BST)

Gonna have to be a lot more specific. DARIS was WAY before my time, so I don't know much about it, and I'm not sure what sort of help you're looking for. Plus, I have a pretty full plate at the moment. —Aichon— 05:15, 23 July 2010 (BST)

Oh woo, another one. What's that, the fifth one now? Some people need to know when to let something die. --

 

 

 

 

07:03, 23 July 2010 (BST)

Its something to do, before the game gets shut down.--Spoook 23:17, 24 July 2010 (BST)