Suggestion:20071114 .22 rifles and ammunition (revised)

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Suggestion:20071114 .22 rifles and ammunition (revised)

Leader 21:43, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion type
a better range of weapons

Suggestion scope
Survivors

Suggestion description
I had an idea. If there are pistols and shotguns then why not rifles. I thought it would be fitting for it to be a .22 caliber since that is a pretty common rifle. The clip should be about 10 rounds. With that much ammunition though you'll have to make it a bit harder to find to balance out the game. I figured the search odds for the rifle should be about 4%-5% in malls and 2% in armories (the same as the shotgun). The search rates for the clips should be from 7%-11% in mall gun stores and 6% in armories (also the same as the shotgun to balance out the game).The damage should be about 5 points 4 against a flak jacket(the same as the pistol). The base accuracy should start at 5% addvancing the same as the pistol does in accuracy.

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1. kill its pretty much just a pistol with a big clip! its also not formatted so expect it to be SPAMMED very soon.... go to the Talk page with this... you will get lots of negative comments but at least you will get explanations why it is bad! --Honestmistake 21:57, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Spam/Dupe Votes

1. Spam/Incomplete Please, take this to talk-suggestions. It won't get anywhere but at least we could explain why It won't get anywhere.--Seventythree^Talk 22:22, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
2. Spam - No new guns. --Karek^maps?! 22:26, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
3. (It's) Grim --Funt Solo ^QT 22:41, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
4. Spam - It's just another gun idea, you spam one and another pops up, listen to 73 please.--Blobdude 23:33, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
5. Spam - T3H UB3R P157015 (pistols) 0f D00/\/\!!! This is nothign but a pistol with a huge clip....overpowered and unnecesary. --Poopman9 23:38, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
6. Spam As 73. Omega 23:41, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
7. Spam - What I said last time.--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:47, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
8. Spam Sorry mate, but as said above, this is basically a pistol with a bigger clip. There is no drawback - given the choice between pistols and the suggested rifle I'd always take the rifle - because it is simply better in each and every way. Shotgun vs Pistol is different as you only find and reload single shells, and spare shells clog up your inventory to boot. Shotgun vs. Pistol is a different animal as the former offers peak damage while the latter comes (long term view) ahead in damage / AP spent (includes looking for ammo, reloading, firing) and offers more damage per encumbrance used. Finally, this explanation was "on the house", but the next rifle suggestion will be SPAMMed/DUPEed without mercy. CharonX 00:10, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
9. Spam Rare does not equal Balanced. --Darth Lumis^{T! A! E! FU! U} 00:24, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Im going to ask all of you something would it help if i maybe made the clip smaller or differed the the search rates and everything just tell me--Leader 00:30, 15 November 2007 (UTC)