UDWiki:Moderation/Policy Discussion/Vandal Banning to Misconduct for Mods

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Rather simple, really, this policy would have this point:

Why, Joe?

Well, I'm sick of crap like this (not to mention this and this). Not to mention punishment of people in the position of authority would come more swiftly through this page.

Feel free to discuss.--Joe O'Wood TALKCONTRIBSUD 02:25, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

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  1. For' --Kamden 00:23, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
  2. For --General Lee A. Dickhole Malton Rangers 05:14, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Against

  1. No - This needs to be discussed first. I know the proper time was allowed, but this is just ridiculous.--Gage 00:47, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
    I left it up for four days, and nobody paid any attention to it. If you wish to discuss, then lets. --Joe O'Wood TALKCONTRIBSUD 03:00, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
  2. Against - Why? -- boxy T L PA DA 01:19, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
  3. Against - If a case against a Mod will be dismissed in M/VB, it will surely be dismissed in M/M too. If a case under M/VB grants a Mod with a ban, any case of violation of this ban thanks to the special capabilities of a Mod will be then derived to M/M and (hopefully) dealt with the appropiate demotion. There's no need to use M/M to deal with normal vandalism by special users, as it's more likely there than in M/VB that a guilty Mod will be shown as innocent or an innocent as guilty, as M/VB cases pertain. Also, a handful of mods have the wrongful idea that normal users voices are not to be listened in M/M (or anywhere else sometimes), so you will be heard even less there. If you want to see more self-patting-in-the-back, then you wrote the right policy. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC☺T☺+1 02:51, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
    Erm, "This page is for the reporting of Moderator misconduct within the Urban Dead wiki." Why is there a page for this if we aren't going to use it? Also, see the discussion page for argument(s) for. --Joe O'Wood TALKCONTRIBSUD 03:00, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
    Misconduct is primarily related to specific Moderator Services, not standards of behaviour. This means that Misconduct cases are to deal with a Moderator making bad use of his abilities as a Moderator (baning of users, deletions and moving of pages, etc.), not his abilities as a normal user of the wiki (making bad faith edits, blanking, impersonating, deleting other users comments, etc.). --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC☺T☺+1 03:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
  4. Against - As Matt's reply above. Cyberbob  Talk  05:08, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
  5. Against - Matt beat me to it: M/M is for misuse of mod powers. Also, though, the idea that "punishment . . . would come more swiftly" on M/M is probably not true: M/M cases are generally batted around amongst several mods before someone bolds up a verdict; M/VB reports are usually acted upon within minutes, or used to be anyway. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 06:56, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
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