User talk:Zaruthustra/Archive1
General Talkification
Heres the deal, that thing was getting pretty big and messy so I just burned it down. If you had allegations of megalomania or assertions that I'm Hitler that you particularly liked you can always go into the history and find it. -- Love, luck, and lollipops, Zaruthustra.
Hey I'd check the Vandal_Banning page it looks like I've reported two puppets of the three edit vandal.--RAF Lt.G Deathnut 05:19, 4 March 2006 (GMT)
Zaruthustra is a mod now?!I voted for him!Just hoping that he doesn't flay me alive with his newly gained mod powers. --Penance 21:26, 8 Feb 2006 (GMT)
Congrats on your modship Zaru!! --Dark Wingstalker 17:25, 8 Feb 2006 (GMT)
Hello, What you think of the T-shirt Pic I made for the RRF? --Matthew Stewart 07:17, 23 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Zaru, you got your wish. We now have 5 Spaminations in a row. --Jak Rhee 21:58, 18 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- Wiki Nazi. --Squashua 03:40, 16 Dec 2005 (GMT)
- Sieg Heil mein Kevan! --Zaruthustra 01:23, 17 Dec 2005 (GMT)
Find a new abbreviation for your group. RRF belongs to the Ridleybank Resistance Front.--Grim s 06:27, 13 Dec 2005 (GMT) (Recovered from the history. Last i checked you werent supposed to delete talk pages.)
- Grim s is incorrect, you can do whatever (excluding fraud and impersonation) you want with your own User Talk, and are under no obligation to leave posts from others. Just thought you should know. --Matthew-Stewart 01:54, 17 Dec 2005 (GMT)
- This really isn't a big deal you guys. We've been through this. All acronyms redirect to you, everybody recognizes it as you. If my group ever does get big, which it looks like it wont, I'll change it. Also, I'm pretty sure I can do whatever I want to my talk page. --Zaruthustra 01:23, 17 Dec 2005 (GMT)
Its good to see some new suggestions on the wiki that don't suck out of control. I think yours was the only thing I've voted keep on in the last 3 days. --Zaruthustra 03:47, 3 Dec 2005 (GMT)
- I really appreciate it, especially coming from someone with suggestions as well-done as yours. unless 18:59, 16 Dec 2005 (GMT)
you seem to be very proficient in the wiki. i was wondering if you might be able to inform me of how to insert a "table of contents" on my group's page? i have tried to figure it out on my own - but have not had any luck, and i noticed you have a group page that has a table of contents & might be able to direct me on how to go about adding one. --Firemanstan 20:18, 5 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- Re-Responce: thank you very much! i had been trying to figure that out all morning (and my boss kept looking at me funny.. maybe i should only do this stuff at home.. ;-p) --Firemanstan 20:47, 5 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Thanks for the pic, Zath. That's some pretty funny shit. Petrosjko 02:10, 10 Feb 2006 (GMT)
There was nothing wrong with the suggestions page. Just some n3wb playing with the Suggestions Template page.
Concerning Moderation
Please post anything related to moderation here.
I noticed you restored the suggestions page. You should check the history again, it appears the user yorter deleted whole sections of other discussions as well. Check his contributions, it seems he did the same to many other pages. I reported him to moderation vandal banning...which I guess is you as well. I would have made the revision, but I'm not sure how to do that, or if I can --CPQD 04:57, 14 Feb 2006 (GMT)
Well, searching through the Deletions and Guidelines pages I also find no mention that pages need to break any set rules to be deleted; most of it's not quite codified. Really we (as in, all users of the UD wiki) have a choice now: whether we should make rules to limit mod power in a checks-and-balances kind of way by saying pages must actually break rules to be deleted, or else allow mods to delete any pages that the community seems to consider good to delete. Basically, how far we trust a mod's judgement. I'm not quite sure which way to swing.--'STER-Talk-Mod 03:27, 23 February 2006 (GMT)
Ridleybank Reclamation Forces
yo zarman. Now that the Ridleybank Resistance Front no longet exist, and that we just formed a new survivor group called The Ridleybank Revivification Front, how about you restart that old group of yours and add the RRF as one of their allies ? --hagnat talk 02:08, 1 April 2006 (BST)
WCDZ
(-\/|\/-) Came up with a nice little spray tag for us to put all around Malton. It's a fancy-ish "W." Kinda. If you squint hard enough. --TheTeeHeeMonster 00:28, 26 February 2006 (GMT)
Unfortunately, the Caiger Cell towers are down. Could you email me the info? (TheTeeHeeMonster@hotmail.com) --TheTeeHeeMonster 13:41, 18 February 2006 (GMT)
Fellow WCDZ Members, witness on the Suggestions page.. our enemy, Jason Killdare, hath returned! --Jak Rhee 00:19, 9 Feb 2006 (GMT)
Just wondering, can I edit Slavik's page to say "Fought the war against the WCDZ," seeing as how it's over and he lost. I just hate it when people don't use the proper tense. --TheTeeHeeMonster 22:23, 8 Feb 2006 (GMT)
This is beautiful. I enjoyed that far more than I should have. Thanks! Bentley Foss 23:55, 3 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Reformatted the Members section. Now with working links. --TheTeeHeeMonster 01:24, 4 Jan 2006 (GMT)
You should add the WCDZ to your wiki contributions section. --TheTeeHeeMonster 01:55, 4 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- Totally. It's the best page on the wiki. --Daxx 16:56, 4 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Messaging here seems to work fine, saturday at 12 sounds good. We can recruit minions there! --Zaruthustra 00:24, 4 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Hey, count me in the WCDZ! They won't know what hit 'em! --Omega2 01:15, 4 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- ACCEPTED! AllStarZ 03:47, 5 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Wooo! Count me in! - KingRaptor 07:56, 5 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Jak Rhee shows promise. Should we invite him? --TheTeeHeeMonster 22:25, 5 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- I would liek to join..as I indicated on the WCDZ talk page but mean while, Zaruthustra, we need you and the WCDZ on Suggestions STAT! Some put up a Droid suggestion.. and insisted they meant it seriously! --Jak Rhee 06:18, 7 Jan 2006 (GMT)
The total count for Jason is 18 suggestions: 2 Duped, 7 make that 8 Spammed, and 8 Killed. A total of 9 non-author Keep votes have accumulated between them, mostly pity votes or joke votes. --TheTeeHeeMonster 23:58, 5 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Goddamnit i'm so jelious now. --Spellbinder 23:53, 7 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Hey, Big Z, where do you want us to move out to? Just wondering. --TheTeeHeeMonster 18:38, 8 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Just read LibrarianBrent's talk page. I RARELY vote Keep on ANYTHING you liar. Leave me out of your fantasies. -- Amazing 05:48, 11 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- I agree that there are Suggestors who need to be chastised.. but I also think some Spam-voters need to be chastised as well. We should all be working together to make the site better, but all that happens is more and more polarization. It's a sad day when voting "Keep" on a suggestion is any kind of big deal. It's a Suggestion page for a Computer Game. The current mood seems to be that anything that gets through may be added because Kevan's an idiot who can't tell what sucks and what doesn't - so it's highly important that all bad suggestions be eliminated immediately to the highest degree. I think that, on both sides, a lot of ego is tied in. Suggestors don't like their suggestions treated like they're anal tumors - and Spam voters are offended that a bad suggestion has sullied their eye. As I say there needs to be less polarization. Bad Suggestors and Spam Voters aren't different beings, they're just standing on opposite sides of the river. -- Amazing 18:41, 11 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Spam means the author is deliberately farting up nonsense for the purpose of annoyance. The author of that suggestion was clearly not writing up the suggestion with this intent and it was in all seriousness. If the suggestion is hated so much why not vote Kill? --Daednabru 21:53, 11 Jan 2006 (GMT)
I just don't support the whole extremely cruel and unfair tactic of Spaminating suggesions no matter how bad when they were evidently written in earnest. It's not right because it isn't fair to the author and it's also not right because it removes a source of potential learning - both for the author and other potential authors. Even a bad suggestion can offer something in the way of teaching us what not to post or suggest. Anyways, thank you for referring me to the talk page, I'll be sure to check it out! --Daednabru 22:18, 11 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Reccommend adding Slavik to your Enemies of The State for vandalizing your page. --ALIENwolve 06:45, 15 Jan 2006 (GMT)--ALIENwolve 06:45, 15 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- I've got eagle eyes for vandalizations. I've already reverted and reported it. --ALIENwolve 06:49, 15 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- You sure that should be on his direct User page? He's gonna recieve warnings soon. --ALIENwolve 07:02, 15 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Nice addition. Never knew the Knights Templar were involved. Yeesh, next thing you know it'll be the Skull & Bones Society and the Iluminati joining in. --TheTeeHeeMonster 23:28, 16 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Oh, All-Knowing-Leader, you seem to have forgotten to put your not-so-secret affiliations with the WCDZ in a more clear way! To the eyes of a target-- I mean, a newbie, you might look like a (gasp!) nice and supportive user! (Oh, and thanks for warning me about the media page! ^^) --Omega2 14:06, 23 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Look for a poster file i uploaded for the WCDZ page. AllStarZ 22:16, 23 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Err... Look for the zombie poster file. I sort of edited it a bit so that it had white eyes, but oh well.
I added a little one word comment to the WCDZ page, in the hope of providing another humerous moment to what i find is an entertaining page. --Grim s 12:52, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Hey Big Z, you coming to the Caiger Social? --TheTeeHeeMonster 22:05, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- Which corner are you in? --TheTeeHeeMonster 01:44, 1 Feb 2006 (GMT)
Dear Moderator-wanna-be
i accept your thanks, and in exchange supported you for moderation status.
Your known terrorist. --hagnat 23:49, 23 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Dearest Zaruthustra, I humbly give thanks that in your infinite wisdom, you saw fit to bestow me with the highest honors of membership in the WCDZ. I sent firemanstan to sign my blood oath to you in Craiger, but as I could not find you (goddamn it's a lot of names to check through there.. my eyes are still bleeding from scanning through them all) - I gave Vista my blood oath to you... I kind of thought it odd that he licked the blood off it, but he said that's how you would have wanted it.. May your assent to Modship be unhindered, and your lordship over the Wiki be a long and prosperous one. --Blahblahblah 23:20, 4 Feb 2006 (GMT)
Imprison Slavik --TheTeeHeeMonster 17:43, 5 Feb 2006 (GMT)
- I have restarted discussion on suggestion alterations. Lets work on getting something established, and added to the rules - so all of us 'usual voters' can be on the same page with this issue. --Blahblahblah 18:29, 6 Feb 2006 (GMT)
In other news, Slavik is back User:Kivals. Haven't seen him do anything wrong yet, but it shoudn't be long. --McArrowni W! 18:53, 18 February 2006 (GMT)
Your sig
A suggestion: edit it in preferences the same way you do to put a mod link in there, and add "Thus spake" before your name.--'STER-Talk-Mod 21:19, 17 February 2006 (GMT)
Suggestions
Since you seem to be one of the few people who are taking an active role with the suggestions, I've got a couple of questions.
- Who removes a suggestion if there are 3 Spam votes?
- Shouldn't the template for the suggestion require the person suggesting to include his/her/its signature?--Nov 05:22, 28 Nov 2005 (GMT)
- Howdy Z. Would like to recommend that Spam Votes could as 0 when calculating Total Votes. Would appreciate your opinion on this matter. % of Keeps is figured out as Keeps / Total Votes. See Suggestion Talk Page. Gracias. --Squashua 20:04, 30 Nov 2005 (GMT)
I compleatly disagree. your "minimum of accountability" statement is wrong. i clearly label my removals in the history page, for quick and easy trackablity. but someone seeing someones name removing spam and resubmits over and over is either going to A) think this person has the power to judge what is and isen't good. B) hold a grudge. --Spellbinder 00:13, 2 Dec 2005 (GMT)
Make Monstrous Zombies be targetted first before all other zombies. My Indian friend's house smells like curry 15:35, 4 Dec 2005 (GMT)
I knew there was a reason why I didn't include skills for my idea.. :\ I would really hate to see your zombie classes killed over something as trifling as an example skill when the concept is clearly prevalent. If you want we could bounce ideas off each other in order to make them work or come up with new skills to effectively combat each other. So, kicking off: the way I see it, certain adv. survivors would be able to determine the type of zombies attacking and be able to do do something about it via new skills, yay or nay? I'll leave it up to you as to how you interpret that. Toodles. --Kehraus 21:00, 4 Dec 2005 (GMT)
At their cores, many great games are just giant, complex, rock paper scissors sims. The tried and true strong versus this weak versus that would definately spice the strategy up. I'm starting to regret making skill at all. For my part I think the carrion feeder was a great design, and the other two were kind of crap. Lets work on this, see if we can't make a whole new system and polish it till its gold. I say we try again on classes. Start with your idea as a template for harmans, on mine scrap everything but carrion feeder. --Zaruthustra 22:14, 4 Dec 2005 (GMT)
Your big zombies should be fired upon more often than other zombies, due to their size.
This would kinda make the class unplayable no? Who wants to be a bullet magnet? --Zaruthustra 01:41, 5 Dec 2005 (GMT)
I've been re-reading the Mutations suggestion, and it's starting to grow on me. I would suggest making the Virulent zombies do even less damage, but get an XP or three for each survivor they infect, to give them some method of gaining XP. Like you said, the Carrion Feeders shouldn't be able to wear Flak Jackets; the reasoning could be that they are too skinny and weak to support the weight. You could add some variation of Aberration to the Monstrous zombie type, maybe in place of the "Strength of Undead" damage bonus. One of the things I liked about Aberration was that the bonus attack gave a bonus message to the target, so there was some flavor added for survivors, as well. I helped Giltwist re-write it, that's why I'm plugging it.
Probably the best aspect of your suggestion is that it doesn't hurt anyone who's been playing for a long time, the way adding classes for starting would. The real struggle is getting anyone to go along with jumping ship into a Resident Evil environment. --Dickie Fux 02:38, 5 Dec 2005 (GMT)
Am I going blind or has the Mutation discussion vanished? Is this the norm or was it specifically removed? Ah well. I apologise for not responding sooner (didn't realise we were continuing the talk over here ^__^). Weelll a few thoughts on the topic, when coming up with classes I just broke down what I thought effectively made up a class, and to heighten the disparity between advanced classes make them cover a specific role, even using polar opposites to reinforce this (ie, the two military examples allow the player the choice, amongst others possibly, to play either a defensive or offensive role).
It all comes down to balance, as I'm sure you know. I know I'll have a tough time packing as many of the best elements of each class as possible into their own individual advanced classes so as to offer a balanced choice to players, who won't feel cheated out because of choosing the wrong advanced class or worse, the wrong starting class in general. Whilst you neatly skirted this by allowing all the advanced zed mutation available to players, all your adv. classes have to be balanced which is in itself a problem for you, due to the obvious difference in the abilities of these new abhorrations (<- I swear to God I thought that was a real word. Bah! I refuse to conform!). You cleverly sought balance by flawing each mutation. The numbers are naturally meaningless at the minute and can always be changed, but the idea is a good one which makes sense, too, in a flavour-sense (mutants being unstable/volatile and whatnot) To be honest with you mate, keep going with it. I think both systems are fine, being balanced in the own ways (survivors by the no of players, zombies by the limits set on the mutation) The virulent zombie and monstrous zombie are fine. If you want to overhaul anything, then rethink a few of their flaws/skills. The inherent abilities are fine. Mutations are supposed to be random, not one generic "mutant"! Tying in the aberration suggestion would also rock. (Zombie A gets an enlarged skeletal system with increased body mass, zombie B develops an anomaly in his skeletal system which grows a functional limb.)
I don't see the harm at making skills which tactfully flouted the rulebook to suggestion just a wee itty bit. Maybe if some of the more uber skills specifically targetted the effects of another, the obvious catch being the limited amount of characters with such counter-skills (if looking at the survior side, a zombologist who can create a make-shift preventative against a particularly virulent infection- all you need now is a zombologist... Er, anyone? ;) ) Teamwork is another path that could be explored, where certain classes, both human and zombie-mutant, can work together using their own skills to achieve an end result which would rock everyones socks.
About zombies co-ordinating "battle plans" well why not? Increased brain activity y'know? There will always be the shambling horde to attack en masse, but there will be the (un)fortunate creations who have the ability to recognise their newfound skills. Ignore those people who speak like-wise. It's not our fault that zombies just so happen to be one of the more boring monsters (next to mummies, seriously what's with mummies? All the scariness of a zombie but minus the rampaging horde.) so let's do what we can to "inject" some fun into them. --Kehraus 22:49, 7 Dec 2005 (GMT)
Maintenance Suggestion
Hi, I was wondering if you read the "maintenance" suggestion I put up. It's basically designed to slightly increase the rate of finding fuel and to give away the identities of survivors who destroy generators. I think it's a needed change because at the NT building I live it's impossible to keep a generator for more than a hour before a death cultist breaks it. It seemed to be doing well but then a bunch of new names voted against it, I assume hardcore zombie players recruited by Grim S or someone else just to kill this suggestion. So I decided to do a bit of recruiting of my own, and as Lord of the WCDZ I thought the skill might appeal to you. If you want to save it from being killed I could sure use your keep vote, though if you dislike it of course vote your opinion.--Jon Pyre 03:34, 25 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Grats
Yay, you're a mod! Grats! --Nov 16:19, 8 Feb 2006 (GMT)
Congratulatuions on the modship, Zaruthustra! Let your reign of terr . . . iffic moderation commence! --John Taggart 22:34, 8 Feb 2006 (GMT)
Congratulations on your mod-ification. (argh, my eyes). And thanks for letting me in. Let your reign of terr... iffic dict... ation of the rules to those who dont follow them commence! --hagnat 01:06, 9 Feb 2006 (GMT)
Er.. uh.. It's a little past due, but congrats on the modship. --Blahblahblah 03:39, 18 February 2006 (GMT)
Re:
Hey Zaru,
Thought I'd pop in and give you a few handy pointers in modship.
- It's not required, but we try to keep warnings "impersonal". Traditionally, something like:
- Please do not <insert problem behaviour here>. Further <insert problem behaviour here> will result in your editing privledges being revoked. This is your first warning. -- Odd Starter talk | Mod 13:03, 9 Feb 2006 (GMT)
- Feel free to go with a style that you prefer, if you find this style of warning horribly trite, but I try to keep the very impersonal tone, as it (hopefully!) prevents people from getting too confrontational.
- Remember that the current guidelines for Moderators can be found at Moderation/Guidelines. If you have any concerns, feel free to raise them with myself, or any of the other Moderator.
- If things get heated, you can always ask another Moderator to step in. Don't get caught acting in anger, either let it go and cool off, or ask for intervention from someone else.
That's pretty much it from me. As always, feel free to contact me if you need anything clarified. -- Odd Starter talk | Mod 13:03, 9 Feb 2006 (GMT)
Doh. I was looking at this page, and thought it'd revert all the pages in between--I had noticed a piece of vandalism I thought the guy who reverted it had missed. But it only rolled back the last edit, with the result that I put some vandalism back instead of taking more out. Thanks for catching it.--'STER-Talk-Mod 08:33, 12 Feb 2006 (GMT)
Good idea...I'll just put sockpuppets in with their owners when I get to them. In the meantime I'll just copy stuff over.--'STER-Talk-Mod 20:46, 16 Feb 2006 (GMT)
So you where the one who killed me in Caiger, i thought what happened in Wiki stayed in wiki, did the folks at Caiger kill you for PKing???Kivals 04:43, 17 Feb 2006 (GMT)
Haha, yea that was me. And I didn't get killed. Cause I'm stealthy, like a ninja. The WCDZ is a confirmed group, and operates in game. Plus it was just too fun to pass up. --Zaruthustra-Mod 21:24, 17 February 2006 (GMT)
Vandal problems reported
I added a vandal report over here Moderation/Vandal_Banning#Various_Suggestion_Problems. Somebody has been going around screwing with votes on the suggestions page. Bentley Foss 20:50, 20 February 2006 (GMT)
Vote in progress placed in archives
There is a rule addition currently being voted on that has been moved to archive. It is only 2 votes shy of passing (with the required 20 votes) and has received unanimous support thus far. I was wondering if I should/could move it back out of archive to the suggestion talk page until it is finished being voted on - as It had not even been up for voting for a week? --Blahblahblah 17:35, 23 February 2006 (GMT)
- I took the liberty of moving it back to finish voting. I was planning on waiting until l heard back from you if you had advice, but there has been a couple suggestions today that have been edited mid vote. I thought now would be best to try and get that guideline added. --Blahblahblah 02:20, 24 February 2006 (GMT)
- >_< lol! I don't know how I missed that. I just assumed you hadn't been on yet today. Thanks for the reply. --Blahblahblah 02:29, 24 February 2006 (GMT)
It's got the 20 it needed, +2 more. I am to understand you have the honors of adding it to the guidelines (?). --Blahblahblah 16:45, 26 February 2006 (GMT)
Trunksoul
Any reason for Trunksoul existing? Or would it be safe to toss a {{delete}} on it? — g026r 22:27, 23 February 2006 (GMT)
Reported for vandalism
I dont understand why I have been charged for vandalism.I just want to keep offensive talk and swearing out of my page.Two users Amazing(the person who reported me) and Maul Machine have a problem.The faulth here have Amazing because he thinks that he should solve his problems with Maul Machine on Liberation of Crossman Departmentpage on our group page.If he wants to argue with Maul he should argue on his personal page not on our group page isnt that right?I just delete all this junk and swearing from my page to keep it clean.Please reevaluate your current stance as I just dont want offensive talk on my page.Thank you --DarthRevan 16:06, 24 February 2006 (GMT) EDIT: I know I didnt create the page but the person who created it Johnny Rico created it for me because at that time I didnt have internet.Johnny Rico will 100% agree that the page belongs to me. --DarthRevan 16:15, 24 February 2006 (GMT)
Re: Iron Cross Brothers
Personally, I'm happy to lean towards keeping it. I'm not insensitive to the arguments for deleting it, but honestly, we've not really cared about other's distress before unless that distress was caused by someone breaking rules, so I don't see a reason why we should be caring now. I'll be voting Keep when I get around to it.
With that said, we should hold to the vote's final result - That is why Mod/Del exists in the first place, to serve the community in removing pages they've decided they no longer want. If people want a Policy Discussion about the issue, they know where to take it, but considering the speed that Mod/PD works, they should understand that this case will probably not be affected by the discussion. -- Odd Starter talk | Mod | W! 23:47, 24 February 2006 (GMT)
It's Zarathustra! With an A!
In case you care, you misspelled the name of Friedrich Nietzsche's character. Or was that intentional? - KingRaptor 05:37, 25 February 2006 (GMT)
Somebody took it, and for the sake of consistancy I named my wiki person after my game person. --Zaruthustra-Mod 05:44, 25 February 2006 (GMT)
Fun Game
Pssh. I was totally trying to guide the convo away from that page, but if you want to pretend I didn't, it is your game. :D lol (I'm just ribbing you, TAKE IT LIKE A MAN!! Heh heh.) -- Amazing 00:22, 27 February 2006 (GMT)
Yeah, and I wasn't even reporting MaulMachine. *sigh* Stupid. I am holding off on reporting Maul for THIS becuase of the fact that even Moderators are lining up against me due to repeated reporting of vandalism I see. (note what the deletion of my Group from the list.) but what are your thoughts? You Mods have to some day realize that maybe I report people a lot because these few people are doing a lot wrong. -- Amazing 00:28, 27 February 2006 (GMT)
Yeah Zar, he does kinda have a point. The "fun game" was out of line. -- Odd Starter talk | Mod | W! 00:49, 27 February 2006 (GMT)
I dunno, man. Keep in mind I've only had drawn-out battles with Daxx, MaulMachine, and some of them WCDZ guys. I think the instances of trouble I've had on this Wiki probably amounts to under five in the five months I've been coming here. The only recurring arguments are between myself and MaulMachine, with his LCD compatriots chiming in. I've reported some people for wrongdoing, and in two instances they were banned. In more instances (?) they were warned. Looking at how I'm recieved and how I'm treated, people would think I'm getting into massive flame wars with everyone at all times and making reports every day. It's freakish. -- Amazing 01:19, 27 February 2006 (GMT)
And as a sidenote, I find it infuriating to be told to "walk away" when I did that only be to PKed multiple times a few weeks later, learning that the person I "walked away" from had put me on a PK list out of spite.
You know what I'm talking about? Turn the other cheek, and you get slapped again. I don't know how many times I'm supposed to act against my own interests. Letting people speak ill of me personally creates a bad image of the leader of a group. No big deal, this is just a game! But when you couple that with people following me around to other pages, removing things I say, trolling my personal sites... it just makes for a situation where I need to act in my own interest and not in the interest of people who want to destroy something or Mods who want it to go away at my own expense. Meh. -- Amazing 01:24, 27 February 2006 (GMT)
Unfortunately, the PK list was on a forum.. :( If it was on the Wiki I'd actually prefer it, if you can believe that, because then I could take my name off! Haha. As it stands I can never get off that list and must suffer PKings because this guy found a way to annoy me where you guys can't do anything about it and neither can I. When I told his group about it and asked him in no uncertain terms to tell the PK list's owner to remove me... well.. you see the result. -- Amazing 01:28, 27 February 2006 (GMT)
Yep. I didn't report anything except the deletion. :) heh. I can hold my own in a LOLINTERNET fracas. -- Amazing 01:32, 27 February 2006 (GMT)
UD Lexicon
Hiya, Zar. I've been poking around the non-UD stuff at kevan.org, and I stumbled across something that might be interesting to do in a UD context. There's a game called Lexicon; it's essentially a writing exercise, building a world piecemeal and from scratch. A (seemingly defunct) unfinished game of it can be seen here (this being the Kevan connection.) Perhaps we can use this to flesh out some backstory for Malton. With Kevan's permission and hopefully his input, we create Lexicon and then make all the pages of the game as extensions of it (as in Moderation/Vandal Banning) and any wiki users who feel like it can together write a non-canon (yet) history of Malton. Would you be willing to join in?--'STER-Talk-Mod 20:43, 28 February 2006 (GMT)
Archiving NPOV Sections
I really don't want to drag you into this any further, but a group leader "archiving" the NPOV section of a group's page to avoid undesirable information allowed? (a la this) --Lucero Capell 02:04, 2 March 2006 (GMT)
- Ah this explains a lot. Slanted question! -- Amazing 02:32, 2 March 2006 (GMT)
Wiki lesson
Mr. Moderator - Discussion/Replies go on User Talk pages. The pattern of silly Mod behavior continues. -- Amazing 03:01, 2 March 2006 (GMT)
Re: Policy
This is why I'm starting to put them up in actual pages in the Project namespace. The reason we keep having these arguments is that noone knows what the hell is going on. Putting them in an accessible place should help matters. -- Odd Starter talk | Mod | W! 06:14, 2 March 2006 (GMT)
Arbitration
As an arbitrator, what am I am allowed to do exactly? I started at it, but then realized I ahve no diea what to do when I have come to a decision. --ramby T--W! - SGP 05:04, 5 March 2006 (GMT)
Question Regarding Moderation Services/Vandal Banning
I'm not sure if this constitutes as Vandalism, but I (and others) have been having problems with Duce Nauks. His group is currently engaged in a PKer war with another group in the Dakerstown area. I've no problem with that, if that is what they wish to do - but they are bringing it over into the Wiki. They have a word war going on on the Dakerstown suburb page, which in my humble opinion, is getting quite out of hand. Examples of other activity which I'm not quite sure how to go about handling provided in this false zombie level report on the suburb map, this "Media Blackout" - which deleted critical information provided to those in Roywood, and he continues to delete a report I've been issuing on the suburb page. I don't know if any of this qualifies as vandalism. I tried many times, in many different degrees of niceness to severity, to resolve this issue between us - but to no avail. Is this something that can be fielded by a Moderator, or is this just something that is going to continue - and I will have to find other ways to resolve it? I haven't stooped to deleting the information he continues to provide (false as it may be), regardless of the fact that he continues to delete my posts - as I feel it would be the wrong way to go about it, and that I should attempt to resolve it this way first. A reply to this topic, and guidance regarding how to properly handle the situation would be greatly appreciated by myself. Thanks for your time. --Firemanstan 22:20, 14 March 2006 (GMT)
Template Issues
I managed to spot a vandel, the only problem is it's me and it wasn't intentional. I moved a passed skill I authored to the Reviewed Page, to save time and what not, only to have the Wiki promptly declare that it hated me. I've been able to fix templete problems before, but I have no idea what is going on with this one. The title of the skill is mine, but everything else belongs to the skill below it. When I hit edit on the title, it shows my skill, but hitting edit on the section shows both of them separately. I can't figure out what is wrong, nor how to fix the bloody thing. The editing help is of no help, simply because there is no editing help. Little help please? Velkrin 22:01, 23 March 2006 (GMT)
Question about the suggestion page, namely on vandalism in the form of personal insults in submitted in "suggestion form"
Basically, I just removed a bunch of insults to MrAuswhicht that was poorly disguised as a parody of a suggestion from the suggestion page. I'm wondering if I had the right to do so, since there is no rule on the suggestion page that explicitely allows one to do so, yet if I'm not mistaken any user can remove acts of vandalism from any page of the wiki, and that... thing... not only coudn't fool the biggest idiot that it is not a suggestion (not even a humorous suggestion), but is basically a flame made by someone who's very name is a flame in itself. I'm basically wondering: 1.Was my removal of that edit justified and 2.Can I bring this over to the vandal banning page? --McArrowni 06:07, 25 March 2006 (GMT)
- I second McArrowni while MrAuswhicht can be a pain in the derriere, Flaming like this can only be considered vandalism, but as it isn't in the rules (yet...) its a grey area. So what's your opinion?--Vista W! 12:47, 25 March 2006 (GMT)
I said it before and I'll say it again, I consider these kinds of thinly veiled personal attack suggestions as vandalism. Feel free to proceed with it to the vandal banning page. --Zaruthustra-Mod 03:58, 27 March 2006 (BST)
Bad Suggestions and Annoying Suggestions
You're the main suggestion mod, so I'm just wondering if it's OK to delete these two pages. --Nov W!, Talk 05:04, 27 March 2006 (BST)
Are there any policies against Verbal Abuse?
Today I was suggesting some new ideas into the suggestion page, and I recieved several, erm, verbal abuses. It may possibly because of my suggestions, but I really don't see it as why I should recieve verbal abuse, a dismissal of my idea will be fine, I dont see verbal abuse as needed in that situation. At the moment I do not wish to have names as I feel threatened.
Just to ensure you understand everything. I should tell you everything regarding this.
I was doing this new suggestion, and forgot that new suggestion has to go to bottom of the page. After inspection, and read the rules again, I realised I have put the suggestion the wrong place. Straight after this, I used copy and paste to move the suggestion to the bottom, and had pasted twice. I did not realise at that moment as I was facing a vast amout of text. After submitting the changes, I realised I had two multiple suggestions which are identical by the mistake described above. At that moment I went back to edit, and I simply just deleted one without noticing theres a vote by Grim S (I think that was him), which now I have put it back again. Which can now be seen at the suggestion page. I hope this is clear enough to prove that it was simply a honest mistake rather than a 'planned' thing.
And then I noted it at the end of the page. Again, I recieved another verbal abuse. I understand theres another post regarding me apprantly was vandaling the suggestion page, nope. Just described above.
Sorry I can't put a link to the suggestion part. But I am confident that you will definately find it there. [changchad]
erm...
adding a category to a template is kind of ... unwise... if you dont do it the right way
you see, with your edit to the template:SacredGroundPolicy, EVERY user and every page that uses that template would have been marked with Categories:templates.
use the (noinclude) tag to add things like this in the future. --hagnat talk 03:35, 3 April 2006 (BST)
