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Lulz

ic wat u did thar. --/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 19:43, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

whar? --xoxo 03:48, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

HAR! DURR!--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 04:51, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

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Please do not impersonate other users, especially on admin pages on this wiki. Continuing this behaviour may lead to your editing privileges being revoked. -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 06:18 21 December 2008 (BST)

Hollomstown

Rid of merged pages. :)--Lithedarkangel 23:05, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

noice! --xoxo 02:45, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Missed one

Candy Avenue. _■^■ 02:23, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Missed what?--LithedarkangelMeth! 03:12, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

You are creating History

Grim made a coupe, tried to take over the wiki.

You lol'd at an account creation you knew nothing of.

Surely if they go through with this, you can make some sort of flashy template stating how you were the first person to have this happen?--CyberRead240 07:40, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh, oh, me me! Lemme make it!-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 00:56, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

lol.

lol. _■^■ 01:52, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

evidently i can be more wrong ;) --xoxo 02:48, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Yus, I gnoh Bub and Kevan, I'm interesting in their profiles and activity, location might come later. _■^■ 04:31, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Irony?

hahaha oh wow you're delusional. --Cyberbob 12:53, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

you just noticed? --xoxo 13:16, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah?

Nominate? --Pestolence^(talk) 00:46, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm up for it if you and SA are.--xoxo 00:52, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

do eeet --Cyberbob 00:53, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Nao. _■^■ 01:04, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm waiting for SA to say something since his name was mentioned. Now kindly GTFO ma talk page.--xoxo 01:05, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

That goes for all of you. Or none of you. I mean it is a free wiki...--xoxo 01:06, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

hai. i here u liek mudkipz --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 01:09, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Mudkipz suck. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:10, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Where's axehack?? I want him back :( --xoxo 01:11, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Axehack is no more... --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:12, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

He was briefly more on the 6th of jan..why is this happening? I, for one, blame the current sysop team ;) --xoxo 01:13, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I blame the previous sysop team. Grim s, to be more precise. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 01:19, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Iscariot...Whoooooo....Now THAT would be one hell of a promotions bid. I'd honestly say give it a while for everything that's around him to die down some, but it might not happen anyway. Its up to you guys on what happens. Just saying it might be more prudent to wait a bit.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 00:21, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

yeah agree, it's a bit chaotic atm. --xoxo 00:39, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll be ready to do it when you guys are ready... I think it will be interesting to see what reasons people give for voting against, and how many people outside the sysop team are opposed to it. I personally think Iscariot would be a very good sysop. --Pestolence^(talk) 01:05, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

of course! It's not just a show for a shows sake. I wouldn't nominate someone i didn't genuinely want as sysop. Still i think it's best if we wait til the wiki is a bit quieter. --xoxo 01:10, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

His actions in the few places where they've given him power over users say much to the contrary. --Judge Karke 05:12, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I can haz links? Or examples? --Pestolence^(talk) 21:42, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I doubt he'd accept the nomination... I mean, if he were a sysop, he couldn't post to his own Talk page LOL. --WanYao 05:14, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

LOL he'd be what he must have always hated!!! xD Liberty 05:20, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Iscariot doesn't hate Sysops altogether, he just hates the way the current sysops teams acts and handles things. He's pointed that out occasionally.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 11:31, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

No, he hates that we don't dance to his tune. Also read Recruitment/Archive2 for a bit Pestolence, then check the arbitration case that relates to it.(talk page too), there's also a few little snipes because of this he's been making about me throughout the wiki claiming that I'm going against the consensus of the community or twisting recruitment to my own ends. He's a paranoid delusional, we're all out to get him and opposing him is the same as opposing the community in his eyes. You can see some of that here. --Judge Karke 01:53, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

According to this bit on Kevan's page, the "community" he is referring to are the folk who aren't actually on the wiki. =/ Convenient eh? -- Cheese 01:57, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

It's funny cause I know that community, I know more people in it than him and the reason is actually the kinda things he's doing and the related drama/rules abuse. I know people in that same community that have expressed problems with his behavior here after seeing it for themselves even. --Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 02:01, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

So basically he's got the wrong end of the stick completely and is now making an even bigger arse of himself because of it? =/ Clever. -- Cheese 02:10, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

I think thats a bit harsh, yes Iscariot is an arse and out to cause trouble for troubles sake but his attacks are not without valid points. The current Admin team does do a (mostly) good job but the assumption by some that they are above community review and that those that disagree with them are trouble making malcontents is far from the truth. Despite the claims to the contrary "Sysopship" no longer suggests a mere janitorial role, rather it designates some users as being in positions of judgment over other users. Until the sysop position recognizes a difference between users that the community trusts to do routine maintenance etc... and to hold a position of authority and judgment over others then drama will always ensue. As is, the sysop role really does seem to be turning into an exclusive club type thing, true or not that is not an image that is good for the position or the community at large!--Honestmistake 02:27, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

1)You're preaching to the choir. Who do you think started the debate over the claims to being just janitors? 2) The system was set up originally to not have community review for a reason. That reason is still somewhat valid and more reasons connecting to that one have caused the failure of every proposition for regular review. 3) Iscariot only has points when he accidentally stumbles upon then in the midst of his attempts to make everyone fall in line, I used to think it was intentional but his behavior has long since made it clear to me that he doesn't actually believe the "points" he has except for as a means to an end. --Judge Karke 02:49, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

The last thing that made the third one ridiculously clear to me was the RRF move drama.--Judge Karke 02:50, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

1) not really aware of who started it... just know its been grumbling on for ever and a day. 2) community review has many things in its favour foremost of which is that it confirms that the sysops are "trusted" by the current userbase, its also very open to abuse by all and sundry and yes it would also make it hard for sysops to do the contentious stuff that makes them unpopular but still needs doing! 3)Just because the valid points he hits upon are not the ones he is aiming at doesn't make them any less valid, it does however make him look stupid and petty.--Honestmistake 08:47, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually spirit of the rule is as important as the law. The reason it's being enforced more so. You don't give native americans repirations for slavery because they were both referred to with the same term back in the day. For #2 please read the comment on my talk page to pestolence, I don't think we should be starting another massive discussion on J3D's talk page without him being a part of it. --Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 10:32, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Wow i didn't expect all this upon my return. Now to catch up on whats happened elsewhere....--xoxo 22:13, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Yup. INMNSHO that's why he's so worried about constant proper English. If he ever used slang or slipped up, the holes in his ideas would be clear as day. He creates a false air of authority and correctives.--SirArgo ^Talk 02:53, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Can I get some input?

I've been working on a policy that I believe is sorely needed here, and I'd appreciate your input on it. How can it be improved, and is it even needed right now? A potential problem is what to do about current sysops: put them all up for review now (leading to a massive backlog of admin page drama), postpone the review until six months from now (simply staving off the inevitable drama till later), or something else glaringly obvious that I've overlooked? See you around. --Pestolence^(talk) 02:56, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, thanks. --Pestolence^(talk) 16:58, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

:( I feel unwanted...--xoxo 00:52, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Aw. =( We still love you Jed! -- Cheese 00:53, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

pwomise? --xoxo 00:54, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Uh huh. =) Without you the wiki would asplode. -- Cheese 00:56, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

i suspected as much, now back to work. There be vandalism cases to rule on ;) --xoxo 00:59, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Meh. S'pose. I could take a couple of minutes out of my busy revision schedule to take a mosey on over for a look. =p -- Cheese 01:00, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

OMGMISCONBULATIONCHEESEISLAZYIMASOGONNATELLISCARIOT --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 01:03, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

kidding.--xoxo 01:07, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

you little... heh --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 01:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

did i getcha? huh? well? did i?? did i?? --xoxo 01:11, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

star wars

its not that i liek it, but its public knoweledge... like the brother grimm tales in 19th century. Anyway, why dont you liek star wars ? --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 00:48, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

hint:begins with f, ends with inis. But i didn't particularly like it before that anyway.--xoxo 00:50, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

what does f floyd inis has to do with star wars ? --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod}

what the 2 Cool is that?? --xoxo 00:57, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

fpenis?-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 03:25, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

fpenis.--xoxo 04:48, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

RE: Classic lulz

Truer words never were spoken - unless someone once said cyberbob was a cunt, then that would be truer. Lol, truer is a weird-looking word.--Nallan (Talk) 07:30, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Cyberbob is a cunt--CyberRead240 07:59, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Did you guys like the presents i left you? The wiki has been awesome lately, reminds me of the grim days. --xoxo 01:38, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

DOHOHOHO --Cyberbob 01:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

merry january! --xoxo 01:52, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I need your advice

Hello. It's me again. I need your advice on something. Neice has not edited the Dead Dudes page again. However, he has now posted some extremely anti-DD propaganda on The Sidney Arms page. Please have a look and tell me what you think. In my opinion (which i have stated to Neice),such statements have no place on a location page. he should put them on his own group's page. It is becoming tiresome to myself and our group, as he is nothing more than a griefer in-game and apparently feels compelled to bring it into the wiki. Anyways, have a look and let me know. Thanks again for any help you can give. --Wast0id 19:59, 20 January (CST)

The Arms is still under attack from the wonderful group Malton Maulers. We have continued to battle for the area and will now go all out for it and have broken into the Arms daily. Is that what you find so offensive Wastoid? Liberty 07:51, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I think this is his problem. I removed it before I actually saw this because it was POV on a neutral page. --Pestolence^(talk) 20:02, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

--Yes, thank you Pestolence, that was exactly my problem. And I expect more of the same from this user in the future and was hoping someone in authotity would set him straight. As I said previously, I simply wish he would keep his in-game grudge in the game, or at least on his own group page. --Wast0id 18:44, 21 January 2009 (CST)

If he continues to slander your group, contact him on his talk page and ask him to stop, and if he continues (or if you've already asked him to stop and he's ignored you), take him to arbitration. --Pestolence^(talk) 02:10, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Uranium

BOMBS--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 02:44, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Read's ban

Time for an open discussion regarding the "it is expected that a system operator be prepared to reverse a warning/ban should the community desire it" section of this policy do you think? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 09:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

What makes you think the community does desire it? The only people contesting it at all number like 4. --Cyberbob 12:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

That would be why we'd have an Open Discussion. I'm pretty sure I can find some people that would support it. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 13:31, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

That depends on how low on the IQ range you'e prepared to go. --Cyberbob 13:48, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Well I would vote to keep the ban which means you will have Bobs support as he can't ever be seen to side with me these days. --Honestmistake 13:56, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

You keep bringing me into your comments honest, do you have a crush or something? If so take it elsewhere... I hear there are corners of the internet dedicated to that sort of thing. --Cyberbob 14:10, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

touché... but i already removed that comment as i felt it a little unfair.--Honestmistake 14:20, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

xbox live or myspace? ;) --xoxo 02:46, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Is anyone else amused by the fact that he doesn't know that he can't unban people through meatpuppeting a vote? It's been tried before and over-ruled by the appropriate party. --Karek^maps?! 08:10, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

then whys it in the policy?--xoxo 00:59, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Because we don't update policies every time Kevan steps in and says differently. There needs to be some legitimacy to giving the user a second chance for such a thing to actually be done, and then only in the more extreme cases is it even likely. Cases like Amazing or Izumi, not any case Iscariot seems to think this is valid for(as I'm sure you know well which those will obviously be). And I'm sure we all know by this point Iscariot is just doing this now to try and cause drama so he can scream about how biased the sysops are regardless of whether he is correct in the slightest, he's not trying to get Read's ban revoked or even claiming what happened to him was unfair, those are irrelevant to his point. --Karek^maps?! 02:36, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Does anyone notice that it's fine when Karek likes a mass of support, but meatpuppeting when it's something he doesn't? Odd that... -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 20:42, 10 February 2009 (UTC)