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Revision as of 22:14, 15 August 2009
20090815 Combat Knockdowns
BlueSpurt 20:30, 15 August 2009 (BST)
Suggestion type
Combat improvement.
Suggestion scope
Combat-oriented players.
Suggestion description
When attacking, all players, either zombie or human, have a chance to knock down their combat target. The chance to score a "knockdown" is a tenth of your chance to hit, and of course, is only calculated if you actually land a hit on your target. Your combat target obviously must be a character, zombie or human - this will not work on barricades, generators, etc. You can score a knockdown on your target with any weapon, firearm or melee. To add flavour, this would be added to attack messages:
You knock them off of their feet./They knock you off of your feet.
A knocked-down character can do nothing but speak until they stand up. Standing up is done via a button, as if you died, and costs 1 AP per 20% of encumbrance. Flavour text for standing up would be:
Survivor: Quickly, you clamber to your feet and regain your stance.
Zombie: Slowly, you pull yourself to your feet, and begin swaying slightly.
Zombies with the Ankle Grab skill will always only have to spend 1 AP to stand up.
Knocked-down enemies have an extra +5% chance to be hit by others.
I think this would really add a bit more rush to combat, rather than just clicking on attack constantly. It's also a good way to slow your enemy down, because they have to spend that little bit of AP to stand up.
It also works well on both sides - zombies slow down their enemies' escapes, and survivors slow down zombies entry.
When in a place where one or more survivors are knocked down, the text would read something like:
Also here is [insert username here], [insert username here], [insert username here], [insert username here], [insert username here], [insert username here].
There are three knocked-down survivors on the floor: [insert username here], [insert username here], [insert username here].
When in a place where one or more zombies are knocked down, the text would read something like:
There is a horde of [insert number of zombies here] zombies here, three of which are knocked-down and on the ground.
This gives gives characters the new combat target of: a knocked-down zombie.
Survivors also have a new option: Help up, with a dropdown menu of people who are knocked-down. This costs the person who helps them up 1 AP per each 20% of the knocked-down person's encumbrance, and costs the knocked-down person 1 AP.
Voting Section
Voting Rules
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Keep Votes
Kill Votes
- Kill -- Abuseable. Zergs can continuously knock down and help up people to remove all of their AP. Also, complete zombie nerf. This is effectively a zombie instant kill. Take it to Developing Suggestions next time.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:18, 15 August 2009 (BST)
- Kill -- Don't Mess with other peoples AP.--RahrahCome join the #party!21:55, 15 August 2009 (BST)
- Kill -- I'm sure in a siege this could violate the Multiply it by a billion rule.--Degree7 21:59, 15 August 2009 (BST)
- Kill -- As yonnua, rorybob, and degree. Take it to Developing Suggestions--Orange Talk 22:11, 15 August 2009 (BST)
- Kill - As above. --Bob Boberton TF / DW 22:51, 15 August 2009 (BST)
- Kill - As above --Uberursa 23:14, 15 August 2009 (BST)
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Keep Votes
- Keep - I am the author and I am allowed to vote once on my own suggestions. --MrSuggester 05:01, 11 Nov 2005 (GMT)
- Keep - Best. Suggestion. Evar. --Bob_Zombie 04:01, 11 Nov 2005 (GMT)
Keep - Good sugestion. no signature --FakeSuggester 07:39, 15 Nov 2005 (GMT)
Kill Votes
- Kill - This is a terrible idea, but you can totally fix it up. --NegativeGal 06:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
- Re - Please be more specific about how to fix it on the discussion page. --MrSuggester 14:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
- Re - Sure, I have detailed my proposed fixes here. --NegativeGal 23:38, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
Kill - You will eat my poopie and love it! --PooEater 11:12, 13 Nov 2005 (GMT)
- Note - Inane vote removed. Defend in discussion. --DaModerator 11:13, 13 Nov 2005 (GMT)
Spam/Dupe Votes
- Spam - Kung Fu CB Mama on Wheels is an inappropriate Survivor Class. --NoFunAtAll 09:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
- Dupe - Duplicate Suggestion --AnotherSuggester 05:01, 14 Nov 2005 (GMT)
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