Please be aware of the following guidelines.
New conversations should be started at the bottom (yes, this is different than it used to be). Also, if a conversation starts here, I will keep it here. If I post to your talk page, I'd like to keep it there. If it ends up here though, I will reply here. Conversations are always better when you can see the context, so I don't want any back-and-forth between talk pages. I also reserve the right to format your edits for stylistic reasons, delete your comments for whatever reason, and generally do anything else within reason. This is my space, after all.
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Link
Thanks for fixing the link for us, much appreciated. I was wondering, would you be perhaps interested in joining SoC with your pro-survivor character? We would be more then willing to help him out if he is inexperienced.
Cheers,
Cortonna (DarthRevan 02:41, 29 August 2009 (BST))
- Most of the groups are sometimes very aggressive (read bitchy) about somebody else outside the group editing the page (it's considered bad etiquette). We however have nothing against edits from people outside the group so long as it is constructive and not detrimental to our cause. You fixed a link I overlooked in this case and I am thankful.
- We would definitely like to have you in our crew. Just sign your name and profile on the wiki members section, register on the forum (do send me a pm on it so I can give you access) and you are in. Oh and don't forget to put Soldiers of Crossman in your group slot ;) Glad to have you with us my friend. Inside the forum I made a specific thread for new people in Malton, so you will find a lot of info and help there and if you have a specific question, don't hesitate to ask me.
- Cheers,
- Cortonna, DarthRevan 16:41, 29 August 2009 (BST)
Manure Edits
Okay, thanks for the advice. I actually didn't think that anything less than creating a new page counted as a major edit, I'll be more selective in the future. ~Dr Frank (t) (DF) [P] (Sb) 08:35, 21 September 2009 (BST)
Bug in QuickLinks
Hello Aichon. I'm using almost all your greasemonke's scripts (both original and modified releases)and they are really helpful. The reason I'm writing this is because QuickLinks' settings button is not working properly, instead of showing my settings a not found page appears. I just realized that if I changed the order of execution of the scripts and put UD Zero Out Buttons after QuickLinks it does function as it should. I wrote this anyway to let you know about the bug. Regards. telepibe 04:53, 15 October 2009 (BST)
- Hey, thanks for the heads up. I didn't even realize other people were using my scripts. Anyway, this was actually one of those odd bugs I was aware of, but completely forgot to mention, since I just kinda assumed I was writing scripts for myself only. I'm actually working on a replacement for my modified version of QuickLinks that won't have this issue (it'll roll the Zero Out Buttons functionality into the same script, rather than using a different script), and I hope to have an early version of it out sometime "soon". But yeah, for now, doing what you did is the proper way to handle things; QuickLinks needs to be executed before Zero Out Buttons. —Aichon— 18:11, 15 October 2009 (BST)
Unpowered vs Uncaded
Just wanted to clarify the difference. Unpowered just means no generator, it doesn't refer to the barricades. So you can have an EHB building with no generator.
BTW thanks for coming up with the examples for the barricade template. It's been so helpful and I don't think we could have had the conversation without your visuals to refer to. Awesome show great job!
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A FREE COOKIE
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Giles has given Aichon a cookie for his awesome barricade templates
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- Thanks for the cookie! I'll proudly display it on my user page. And I'm glad I could help. It gave me something fun to work on this week, instead of working on my thesis, the grading I need to do, and a class project due next week. >_>
- As for the difference, I guess I understand that, but the way I think of it, the only time you would intentionally leave something unpowered is if it's also meant to be unbarricaded, otherwise, in ideal situations, you'd power it as well. Of course, I suppose wonky barricade plans could dictate things however they want, so my reasoning only goes so far. —Aichon— 11:43, 23 October 2009 (BST)
Repairs
Good to know, I did a 306ap repair once, actually idled waiting to come out of it. Do you know about the Big Game Ruin Hunting page? Record your achievements! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:39, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- I had heard of it at some point, but never saw the page itself. I'll mention it to the folks I know so that they can post their screenshots. I think it was in Gatcombeton a month or two back that the one I was thinking of was repaired.
- Oh, and I'm a bit confused now. You had said previously that the highest recorded was 160 or so, but you mention having a 306 and the link you provided gives a 276. I'm missing some defining detail, but I'm not sure what it is. —Aichon— 20:59, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, missed that 276. The 306 was in borehamwood, and I didn't want to give away my position what with it being a permadeath map.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:02, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, sorry, it was 291, not 276 (bad short-term memory), and that makes sense with not publicizing it. I was actually reading up on the The Borehamwood 100 last night, since I didn't start playing UD until relatively recently and was curious. Wish I had been around when those cities were still open. —Aichon— 21:05, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- Well, hopefully with the one year anniversary in 2 days Kevan might be nice and let people back in! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:11, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- That'd certainly be interesting, but somehow I think it would spoil what you guys have there now. I wouldn't wish that on you guys, even if I wish that I had been there. Still, it's a nice thought. —Aichon— 21:44, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
POV
Thanks for dealing with it in a sensible manner. I currently have an ALT in Roywood who's spoken to both groups very recently. Every building I go into it's "Want to join SOC?" Recruiting at the moment I see? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:24, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I didn't handle it as well as I could, since I was okay with compromising on editing the SoC mentions out of the comments, which does fall into impersonation. In general though, I try to maintain neutrality as best I can, but I was definitely glad when I saw that you stepped in to offer a neutral view that neither side could provide on their own. I really appreciate it; thanks for your help.
- But yep, we're recruiting (as ever), and we have one very active member who loves to tag every building in every suburb that we go to. Most of the group has moved on past Roywood at this point, though there's a contingent that's staying behind. We're trying to work with the RCDF on managing things, but we've already had several miscommunications on both sides of the line which have made things more eventful than I would have expected. —Aichon— 21:35, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Such is malton. Heading to Dakerstown, or Quarlesbank, or further south? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:45, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Technically, I'm not supposed to confirm that your first guess is correct (*cough*), since we avoid discussing these sorts of things on the wiki until after we've made some progress. —Aichon— 21:50, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Well then *cough* Extinction like meastshielding both PASK NT and the Southern of the two hospitals. Most survivor activity is near the northern hospital, so say hi to FAUCK whilst you're up there. Main RP is inside the Junkyard next to Pask *cough* I may even send Monty Orlando to say hi. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:54, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'm actually still behind with the Roywood contingent (currently taking a nap on Hecks Street after getting a much-needed poke), but I'll pass that information along to the people who need to know. And I definitely recognize that name of yours. I can't remember if I FAKed you or if I just took note of you doing something like barricading, but I do remember seeing your name and getting a chuckle out of it. —Aichon— 21:58, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Your User Area
I have to say, I am mightily impressed. The layout you've got going on is great! It makes me ever so envious. I even dappled in a bit of code stealing for my personal gain. (Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery?) ----RahrahCome join the #party!23:50, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the compliments. I've been bored the last few weeks and haven't felt like working on the actual work I should be doing, so I've been intermittently keeping myself busy with stuff here. The current layout works well enough, though it's not as flexible or as nearly aesthetically pleasing as I'd like. But it's simple, easy to manage, and looks "good enough" to work, which is all that really matters. And I definitely have to agree with your statements regarding imitation. Don't tell him, but I borrowed it from Midianian originally. Feel free to borrow any parts you see fit. I have no issues with people borrowing stuff like that.
- I'm actually eager to get to know you on account of the sysop nomination and the fact that I don't like staying uninformed for long. I was sincere in my abstention there, in that if I felt like I knew you better and felt you were capable, I'd be willing to put in a vouch, but I simply haven't taken the time to learn about you since our paths haven't crossed much as of yet (and this week has been brutally busy, so I have had no time to look through contribs and the like). As I mentioned there, I'm still a pretty new user around these parts, so there are lots of people who are having a positive impact on the wiki that I simply haven't had a chance to meet yet, but hopefully that number will dwindle over time. To say the least though, I'm glad to meet you. —Aichon— 00:10, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Imitation is only flattery if you don't blatantly copy anothers user page, character images and all and shit. :/ -- SA 00:18, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- I would certainly agree, though I feel like I'm missing the relevance. —Aichon— 00:25, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- You're not an old man here like I am. :) Long story short, this guy, under many different accounts blatantly copied my pages, wrecked a few of them, vandalised the wiki, did it again and tried to make everyone think it was me, and overall just sucked as people/a person. :/ -- SA 00:35, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Sheesh — gotta love those types. You run into them on the 'net every once in awhile, and they just drive you up a wall with how dense they can be. (as an aside, that last comment I made had the wrong tone...I meant for it to be more of a hint-hint to clue me in and not cold or condescending, but on a second reading, that's how it comes off to me) —Aichon— 00:57, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Drove me up a wall they did. And so did their many alts and confusing actions. T_T I did see it as more of a blunt clue me in statement too, nothing cold or condescending. Though I may just be too tired to see hostility. :D -- SA 01:02, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Nah, if you were reading hostility into it, I'd say you were tired, since there was none intended. But I really should make a point of being clearer. Smiley faces tend to clear these things up (though I've been a bit hesitant to use them frequently, since I know some communities frown on them). After all, nothing says "it's meant to be taken lightheartedly" like a good emoticon. :P —Aichon— 01:19, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Too true! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:DDD:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:DD::D:D:D:D:D:D::DD:DD:D:D:D:D:D:D:D::)-- SA 01:23, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- And nothing says "I'm serious about lightheartedness" like typing up that many emoticons by hand, instead of c/ping them. Seriously though, that had me laughing, since I wasn't expecting that. Even more so once I saw the errors in there. :) —Aichon— 01:27, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- What? Errors? Well fuck. I didn't notice them until you said something. >< -- SA 09:39, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Aww, but see, that tells me you care about handcrafted smilies, as compared to mass-produced ones. Naturally, there are some errors in the process, but now I know that each one was made individually. —Aichon— 17:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Barrista Feedback
Hello again. I tried Barrista but isn't working properly. I thought that the others scripts/extensions could be messing with it, so I disabled them all but with no luck. Here's a screencapture. I'm using Firefox 3.0.15 with latest Greasemonkey. Regards.--telepibe 03:50, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- How very odd, but you're completely correct...it does the same thing in my copy of Firefox. Thanks for letting me know. I hadn't yet tested it in Firefox, just because it and Safari usually render things similarly and I wasn't calling this a full release yet, but obviously they didn't render the same this time. Not quite sure what to make of that. I'll look into it when I get a chance, but I'm not sure what the issue is or how much work it'll take to fix. Thanks again for cluing me in. Hopefully I'll get that cleaned up so the Firefox folks can use it. —Aichon— 05:13, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
That 'thing'
Where did you come accross it? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 18:23, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- Do you really want me to post details on how I found it? The long and short of it was that after it was mentioned, I was curious what 'it' was, so I just looked through the relevant contribs until I found what was being discussed, which didn't take too much time. —Aichon— 19:36, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- after it was mentioned being my key interest; where did you come accros it if you weren't stalking my talk page? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 20:35, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, gotcha. Umm...I kinda was. Stalking, that is. I had started watching pages for interesting people I saw on the wiki, and you were one of them. —Aichon— 21:16, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- If you hop on the UDWiki IRC, I'm on there quite a bit. We can discuss it there, if you'd like. —Aichon— 02:52, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- I'm 'interesting'? Das so sweet... Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 20:31, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- Plus, I liked Code Geass, so that didn't hurt things either. —Aichon— 21:51, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks
Hey thanks aich, couldn't have done it without ya, im new to this kinda stuff. If you ever need any help in the survivor world, give me a holler and ill see what i can do, ill leave my contact details here: http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1627595
19:06, 8 November 2009 (EST)
- Sure thing. Glad I could help (though, in the interest of full disclosure, I was the one that removed your ad as well when it was infringing). And again, if you need any help with the wiki, I'll be happy to help out a bit with the knowledge that I have (I'm a wiki rookie too, though my background gives me a leg up in learning it). As for in-game, my survivor tends to be up in the northwest, but if I ever find myself down in your area, I'll try to remember to look you up. :) —Aichon— 08:19, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
My Userscripts
Would you like to adopt them? You seem able to handle the code while I seem unable to drag myself back to UD :P. --Midianian 16:05, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I can sling a little code around here and there, but not nearly as well as you can, from what I've seen. ;)
- Regardless, I think I'd be up for taking on the ones that I use, since I certainly have a vested interest in seeing them continue to work. Of the ones on your userscripts page, I'm currently using everything except UDPL and UDRB. For those two...I suppose you could route people to me for support on them, but I probably won't be proactive in handling bugs, since I wouldn't catch them myself. I doubt either will have issues anyway, since they're pretty straightforward.
- So, sure. Perhaps we can just refer to it as "keeping them warm for you," rather than calling it an adoption though? After all, I'm kinda just hacking my way through these things, since I'm picking up Javascript as I go, and if people thought I had your blessing, they might think I was as talented as you are. If anything, I'm worried that mistakes on my part might reflect poorly on you if people attribute the errors incorrectly. Plus, this gives you the option to wash your hands of me if you come back later, see that I've made a mess of your work, and want to fix things up yourself. :P —Aichon— 23:43, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- "Do you not know, my son, with what little understanding code is written?" ;) I didn't know JavaScript, XPath or DOM at all back when I started writing these, and I honestly haven't been doing these that much. I think you'll do just fine. --Midianian 11:01, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
- See, now you're just showing off. :P
- Anyway, if I'm going to be taking them on, I'll add an additional section on my userscripts page for your scripts, that way it's clearer what's going on, and if I'm going to be maintaining them, I suppose I should actually start properly documenting the modifications I make...*grumble grumble* —Aichon— 15:17, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Lexicon
The rules are quite confusing, I admit. I am trying to write a guide to the lexicon here. If you have more questions or still have no idea, tell me. :) --RahrahCome join the #party!17:02, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- So, let me just double-check that I understand things, since it's mostly the citing and back-citing that has me confused. The formatting and first round are easy enough to understand.
- If I were to enter now, I should write an article for the present round by filling in one of the phantoms for the round.
- What if there are no phantoms for the round, as is the case with JKL right now? Do players just write an article (like what happened in the first round), and expect it to be cited by a later article in the game?
- Is that what a back-cite is?
- If I were to enter now, would I also have to write articles that are missing for the player that I'm replacing? E.g. if they didn't write a Round 2 or 3 article, but we're on Round 4, I'd have to have to actually write three articles to start off, and make all relevant citations, etc.
- Once the writing phase is complete, I should then insert a citation into someone else's article, creating a phantom for some future round.
- Do I insert one or three citations? The page you linked seems to contradict itself on this subject, though I'm unclear, so it might not be contradicting itself.
- Do the citations I insert only get inserted into the current round's articles, or can they be placed in articles of the previous rounds?
- Does the citation have to be for a future round, or can it be for the current round or earlier rounds?
- Repeat the above steps until the game is over.
- When we get closer to the end, do we have to start making a point of mentioning past articles that are currently not cited? Should there even be any past articles that have not yet been cited?
- Regarding which you can and can't cite, I can't write articles for citations I created (e.g. if I inserted a citation into user B's article, I couldn't then write that article), nor can I write articles for citations that other players inserted into my articles, correct?
- How is this maintained? It seems possible that you could get situations where users have no choice but to write those articles, especially as the game gets closer to the end.
- I guess you could say that I get the general idea, but I'm still really hazy on some of the specifics (especially back-cites, which I haven't seen a good explanation for yet), and coming from a CompSci background, I inductively haven't seen how this game can come to a guaranteed correct end, with everyone being able to avoid citing/writing in reference to their past work. It might, but I just haven't grasped how yet, so it bothers me at a logical level. —Aichon— 17:32, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
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