Talk:Dead Bunnies

Please note that reponses from somebody purporting to be from a Dead Bunny can, and will likely appear antagonistic. Anything posted should not be seen as an admission of guilt, merely that we don't care what you think of us and it seems to wind you up. Remember, you posted on our page. --Roorgh 08:45, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Furthermore, as of the timestamp of this message all further comments on this talk page by the pretend old man, the wilted erection, the ayatollah of suck, the king of whinge, the count of jaunty crisco, the lingerie-clad porker of peanut butter, enemy of logic, reason and adult relationships, the one and thankfully only^[1] UBCS Haliman will be edited in a manner we feel befits his unique personality and approach to life.

^{[1] - We're not sure if we can make him look any more idiotic than he's already managed on his own, but by god we love a challenge!}

--Jason 'Fock'n' Stafam 22:39, 30 July 2009 (BST)

I wouldn't do that - openly editing someone else's post is blatant impersonation. Linkthewindow Talk 12:00, 31 July 2009 (BST)

Hasn't Haliman111 being impersonating a human for some time without repercussion? --Roorgh 14:12, 31 July 2009 (BST)

Hmm, are we not allowed to do as we please on out own discussion page? After all, he's been fairly warned ahead of time - all he has to do to avoid it is to quit spamming our page. In fact, is there no repercussion for him for spamming our page with nonsense, accusations, and (oddly enough) accusations against people not even in the dead bunnies? --M4rduK 14:25, 31 July 2009 (BST)

You may not impersonate (including the act of modifying someone's comment) anywhere. --ϑϑℜ 14:31, 31 July 2009 (BST)

_{Edit conflicted} No, you're not allowed to edit someone else's post on any page. Despite the fact that you own the page, impersonating other users is still considered vandalism. If you don't want his posts to be displayed here, delete the posts and any replies. If he continually does it after you've asked him to stop, take him to arbitration. Linkthewindow Talk 14:35, 31 July 2009 (BST)

Ok, thanks for the information. I am then officially asking Haliman to stop posting on our wiki because he is not intelligent enough to carry on a meaningful conversation (nor can he even post on the correct page! As proved by his massive failure to troll). Haliman, if you post on our wiki any further we will seek arbitration, because you are a massive tool. Good day sir! --M4rduK 14:42, 31 July 2009 (BST)

I think you should just replace his signature with a link to his userpage, that way it can't be impersonation.--Thadeous Oakley 14:55, 31 July 2009 (BST)

An invitation for Mall Tour '09

Dead Bunnies are hereby invited to partake in Mall Tour '09. It will be kicking off in 2 weeks time. The tour is being coordinated on barhah.com (public forum won't be going visible until later this week. Feel free to pm me there or on brainstock (or via my talk page) if you wish to come along for some bra!nz and destruction! --Johnny Bass 17:34, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

we love brainz! --Nayrb702 07:25, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like good fun to me as well! Stepdown 14:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Great to have you guys aboard! I've already seen quite a few of you in action over in Shearbank. BARHAH! --Johnny Bass 22:33, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

The Great Suburb Group Massacre, 2009

	Group Confirmed.
	This group was confirmed active. Thank you for your reply.

Thanks for your reply, and sorry if this seems like a stupid question. Linkthewindow Talk 23:18, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

We're still active, just finished a big nomfest in Santlerville an hour ago! Stepdown 23:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Linkthewindow Talk 20:36, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Question

Where is the proof for agent rubber piggy and Nehcrum zerging? or indeed the others that you place on your page that are not on the zerg liste? or indeed that they "worked" together with zergers? --mo ヽ(´ー｀)ﾉ ^{MCM MOB DB} 12:59, 27 April 2009 (BST)

Proof added --M4rduK 00:29, 28 April 2009 (BST)

All that Iwit shows is beavers working closely together which is the norm and other people in the same building who happen to be active at the same time, you had struck at the same time so those people would have worked out your MO, one Iwit does not a case for zerging make, hell it took us showing you your own "team mates" zerging multipul times before you sort of admitted it, why have you not put your own bunnys on the list? --mo ヽ(´ー｀)ﾉ ^{MCM MOB DB} 00:55, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Keep spinning it...we both know what really happened. Do I really need to break it down for everyone again? --M4rduK 01:05, 28 April 2009 (BST)

yes break it down then, the beavers where in IRC with many people, non of whom where "zergers" there are plenty of witness's to state this fact, can you say the same? --mo ヽ(´ー｀)ﾉ ^{MCM MOB DB} 01:11, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Ok...just for you because you're so darn special though! First we have to correct a couple of fallacies that you have already loaded into the conversation. First, no one just "happened" to be in the building at the same time - it was an organized attack. Second, there was no MO to figure out, WE were holding the building not attacking. We had been camping out in it for a couple of days.

Now for the actual explanation of what is taking place in that iwitness report (as if you don't already know the facts of what happened haha). The report shows an organized and pre-planned attack on the building with a specific tactic - combat reviving. The entire Hall was revived in under 4 minutes (30+ zombies if I remember correctly).

Just so the facts are clear - a group of 9+ humans arrived at the Hall carrying over 30 syringes between them, installed a generator, fueled it, revivified 30+ zombies, and dumped them all. All of this in a period of 4 minutes.

And you're suggesting that these 9 people just happened to all show up at the same time, all carrying a bunch of syringes, a genny, and fuel, and proceeded to all use the exact same tactic, and clear an entire building of zombies in under 4 minutes - this was all just coincidence? Please...that's a pitifully pathetic argument.

At the *very* least, a group of Beavers, along with 3+ known zergers (Tommy2times, mrscientistman, and blindedwithscience) and a couple of other humans pre-planned an attack (the time and the strategy) and then carried it out in unison with each other. This is undeniable to anyone with an ounce of logic and no matter how much you try to spin it, everyone who sees the iwitness report and reads the explanation knows the truth of it. You'd be better off just owning up to what was done and moving on.

To address a couple of other points you made. Is it impossible to believe that someone could be in 2 IRC channels at once or on 2 servers? I hope not, because it is very possible...as you well know. Please don't try to further confuse the issue by throwing nonsense at it. As for my "team mates" zerging - We did learn that 2 (possibly 3) of our members had zerged at some point soon after the group formed. Then we were finally shown proof that it happened we acknowledged it and they were reprimanded for it they assured us that it would not happen again. To my knowledge they have not done so again since that incident. Are the Beavers big enough to own up to their mistakes as well? --M4rduK 01:45, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Actually that's exactly what you should believe, it's extremely common and zombies have been doing it as an answer to the AP imbalance for years. Strike Team. Dunno about the zergers part but the rest is extremely common.--Karek^maps?! 03:08, 29 April 2009 (BST)

You're joking, right? groups do that all the time. Something like that is just a generic demonstration of good timing. I've seen it hundreds of times. That's what makes them groups. Don't know what you guys are doing if you think that execution of timing was cheating. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:07, 17 May 2009 (BST)

So you agree with us? We finally got through to someone!!! DanceDanceRevolution just agreed with us that the beavers were working with a group of zergs as a group and that they timed their attack together! That's all we ever claimed...it's good to know that it hasn't fallen on deaf ears. :D --M4rduK 13:41, 17 May 2009 (BST)

How unimaginably hilarious... I guess you might as well add an equally poor response to Karek's comment now, too. And while I'm here I might add that your new 'zerg proof' is so poor that I'm considering creating an new account, send him to Santlerville, kill a zombie, and count down the seconds before you label it as a zerg account of 'someone'. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:46, 17 May 2009 (BST)

Wait, so you're not agreeing now? Your previous post clearly said that the iwitness of the Hall retake showed a group working together using good timing. That is exactly what we have been saying the entire time. I fail to see where we're disagreeing. Also, we didn't label the zergs in that iwitness as zergs...the Beavers did. Those are people that THEY have reported as zergs in the past. We're just pointing out that they are now working very closely with the people that they themselves have labeled as zergs. --M4rduK 14:00, 17 May 2009 (BST)

Just to clarify some of the details. It's ['your' list] that claims Tommy2times, mrscientistman, and blindedwithscience are zergs. The very same list that Calista had no trouble running to when she was whinging about zergs in the bunnies. Our point is that these very same people who had no trouble bleating about the entire Dead Bunnies being zergs and whining about it on the radio and spray painting it wherever we went or simply saying it when they wanted to perform their cowardly combat revives, these very same people have no issue about sharing space with a bunch of zergs and coordinating with them. Of course coordinating with another group isn't cheating, it's just fucking hypocritical when you do it with a bunch of zergs (again by your list and your rules) after bitching non-stop about us for so very long. --Roorgh 14:26, 17 May 2009 (BST)

I've never been with the Dribbling Beavers in my life, nor did I ever support their enormously overbloated zerg search. It is just your circumstancial 'evidence' is getting poorer by the upload. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 14:52, 17 May 2009 (BST)

So then why have you not added my submission below to your list? "it's just fucking hypocritical"! --MoonShine 02:45, 18 May 2009 (BST)

Because that iwitness does not show those people working together - it merely shows that they were in the same area at the same time. By your logic everyone shown in that iwitness was in the same area, so they're all zergs then? See, we have higher standards for callimg people zergs than at silly vanity circle jerk forums. We require better proof than "their names are similar" or "they were both in the same area at the same time" - our proof shows CLEARLY that the zergs were cooperating with each other, which is exactly what makes them zergs! --M4rduK 20:46, 18 May 2009 (BST)

You do know that you can check which room in irc people are in dont you? and yes the beavers had a co ordinated CR thing going on your point is what? we had and will continue to CR but all the iwit shows is ONE beaver cring with some others? he might have been checking the place at the time and noticed the genny was up and running and took advantage of it.....that Iwit proves nothing and i'll thank you not to try to be condescending to me, you and your bunnies really have poor inter personal skills --mo ヽ(´ー｀)ﾉ ^{MCM MOB DB} 02:07, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Now you're just embarrassing yourself...YOU do know that people can be on more than one IRC server at a time right? Do you have a way to see every IRC server a person is on? And of course it would be impossible to organize something via AIM or googletalk...because whatever IRC server you're on must be the center of the universe and no one else would dare to discuss something in a place that you can't personally see them...

I'm making a (very) small attempt at keeping this civil, but it's difficult when you present such patently absurd arguments such as "A discussion did not take place on the IRC server that I was on at the time, therefor the conversation never took place at all". --M4rduK 19:25, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Fine I admit I made a mistake about IRC and servers, but still that one iwit means nothing, nothing at all, some beavers refresh often and patrol areas and you get a message on the screen when a place is lit up, this is my last message here as you really dont care that the iwit means nothing and simply want to cause more drama - --mo ヽ(´ー｀)ﾉ ^{MCM MOB DB} 00:12, 29 April 2009 (BST)

Not the brightest bulbs in the box are you?

You guys are either incredibly stupid or total masochists. Accusing people of zerging without showing any evidence and expecting others to act on these baseless accusations will probably get you griefed into oblivion. Let's not forget the whole internet stalking thing. Oh well, another couple nails in your coffin eh? Good show, Bunnies. --Amber Waves of Pain 13:37, 27 April 2009 (BST)

Who the hell are you, and why should we care? Did you not see the lovely graphs we made for your edification? --Roorgh 00:04, 28 April 2009 (BST)

OH NOES WE WILL GET GRIEF!!!! THIS MEANS WE SHOULD IGNORE THE ZERGING RITE? Your threats and accusations mean nothing to us. This can be spun however you want, but there is still no explanation for the iwitness report that I have added to the page...no explanation other than zerging that is...lol. Feel free to spin it some more! It's fun to watch you guys squirm. :D --M4rduK 00:35, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Roorgh, I'm a player in Urban Dead. It's a massive, multiplayer online role playing game. You shouldn't act so surprised when you find other people that play it. I've been playing for over a year now. I play 3 characters, all of whom kill/eat zergs, only one of which requires evidence to do so. I've lead and helped others lead and organise a death cult, one of Malton's most respected hordes and a couple PKer groups. I have a small army of stalkers and I'm a friend of Calista Griffin's and a number of other Dribbling Beavers through channels that your tiny mind obviously can't fathom. Who the hell are you?

M4rduk, I didn't make any accusations or threats. I was merely stating as a matter of fact that a) you're either stupid or acting like dumb fucks for publicity (ie. you're asking for this sort of response,) and b) you'll get griefed for it. Apparently, you're paranoid chicken shits, too. lol? --Amber Waves of Pain 06:35, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Other people play this game?? M4rduK you lied to me! Oh and Amber, when I post on your page feel to ask who the hell I am too :-) until then, that description doesn't really indicate any substantial reason why we should be bothered by what you're posting. --Roorgh 08:45, 28 April 2009 (BST)

one i-witness that shows nothing. nils jackson was in st. c's and went to investigate. nehcrum probably noticed it as well. you know, you do see lights go on in other bldgs nearby, it's a game feature. frankly, you are just upset that we caught three of your members zerging. caught red handed with irrefutable proof that you initially denied. once public opinion turned against you, with the zerging and the obscene radio spam your members were using against us, you got pissed off and then, after the five or six times the teenangels cr'd you out of hall, you finally noticed some, not all, of them were on the zerg list. yes, you are so very bright. you don't get to have it both ways, three proven and listed zergs in YOUR GROUP. but, a couple of beavers are in the same bldg and suddenly we are zergs? if that was the standard of proof for zerging, half of malton could be convicted. btw, they were originally listed, in retaliation, by the suspected alt of yet another zerger. but, the teenangels are not part of our group and we do not control their actions. the zergers in your group however are your responsibility, one that you have consistently dodged responsibility for. you never provided any proof that the zerging has stopped, you said the problem was "taken care of", just like you said that the personal harassment of me was not cool and that it wouldn't happen again. you are the only one who is squirming here, m4rduk, you have some of the best experience ignoring zerging. you do it everyday when you act like what we've already proved never actually happened.

so, what about your members internet stalking me? [1]--Calista griffin 04:03, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Is that you Calista? We approve of the ears but the overall opinion is you'd look better with fuller eyebrows. --Roorgh 08:45, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Not only is it pervy and weird, it's also against Twitter's policy on privacy:

Twitter Support said:

Posting someone else's private identifying information on Twitter is considered a breach of privacy. If your private information has been posted by another person, we will take immediate action to remove it. Private information is:

credit card information
social security number
private phone numbers
otherwise non-public or unattainable information.

Source

I had a quick poke around Myspace and couldn't find that image on a non-passworded profile.

Oh, and here's the no - longer broken link that Amber posted. Linkthewindow Talk 08:51, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Regarding the accusations of "stalking" (lol) - it was relatively easy to find calista's alternate usernames based on info that she herself was posting. I wasn't the one that spotted the connection, but from what I understand it required little more than a google search to make the connection and another google search to find her myspace page (the pics are still on the myspace page and it is not password protected - ie, the pics are very public). Does being observant and using a couple of google searches count as stalking? Hardly. Furthermore, at no point did we ever say who the pictures were of or where they came from. Calista chose to reveal that they were photos of herself and Linkthewindow revealed where they came from in the post right above this (I can only assume he knew the source due to having to listen to people whine at him). Just to reiterate, the extent of what took place was 2 google searches and posting a completely un-identified picture. The topic would have been instantly forgotten by everyone who saw it had not this big fuss been made. We never in ANY way made any public connection between the picture and who it was. People really need to get a better grasp of the concept that the internet is a PUBLIC place. If you post pictures on the internet, they are public (*especially* on myspace and the likes). --M4rduK 16:32, 29 April 2009 (BST)

Zerg Reporting

Dear Dead Bunnies,

I have noticed your new zerg list and would like to commend you for the effort the current zerg list does nothing to punish people who work in collusion with zergers whether they intend too or not, in it's present form it is an exercise in futility and does nothing to bring these cheaters to the public eye. We desperately need a list like yours. I would like to make a report of zergers to add to your list. I have been reviewing this iwitness which also happens to be on your page and noticed something: It is dated 04-15-09 comparing it to this zerg liste update dated 04-08-09 i notice that one Nayrb702 is present he is a known zerger and by the highlighting appears to be working in a co-ordinated fashion with the following people:

Danish Bunny
cannot sleep
zombiegirly
ExitBit2
dead welsh bunny
forteagle
bumrocks
hdrider
robbie77
RaSpewTin
M4rduK
Quick Quack
Raff Raff
Stepdown

On your main page you state "The following is a list of known zergers working in Santlerville. The list also includes people who work closely with zergers - we make no distinction between the two." so i believe there would be no quarrels in adding these cheaters to the list as well. I would however like to warn you "They should be considered armed (with proxies) and extremely ghey." <3 MoonShine 12:15, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Thank you for your report! We take zerging very seriously here at the Dead Bunnies and make every effort to keep our group clear of it. As I have previously stated (a couple of times actually) we do acknowledge that a small number of our members WERE zerging! The bastards... Nayrb702 was one of our members that was previously reported - because obviously it's not acceptable to have more than one person in a group with the same real life name...I mean, come on that would just be silly. Anyway, we kicked all of the other Bryans out of the group and they have not been seen in Santlerville since well before the zerg combat revive rush on April the 15th. That being the case, I consider the case closed on this report - but thank you for your diligence! Perhaps if you applied the same diligence and acute investigative prowess to your own group you could solve the mysterious zerg combat reviving case going on there... --M4rduK 12:40, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Doesn't change the fact that they are still on the zerg liste much the same as the "zerg combat revivers" you seem to have an unhealthy obsession over. Frankly your word counts for didly squat there are procedures in place to rectify this and until you follow them you are holding a double standard. --MoonShine 12:58, 28 April 2009 (BST)

We're under no obligation to conform to the silly rules of some forum that you frequent in order to prove anything. OH NOES YOU PUT US ON A LIST! So what? Just to set the record straight though, we DID have some of our members go to your silly forum and follow YOUR protocol to be removed from the almighty list. They were not removed - we just got the run around. We admitted to our mistakes, cleaned up the problem, and followed your protocol (to no effect). You, on the other hand, are still in massive denial despite evidence that would be clear to a 6 year old. Whose word counts for diddly squat? Please continue to circle jerk on your forum and make more lists. They seem to be very effective at.....wait, what's the point of the list again? Oh right...it accomplishes *nothing*...lol. --M4rduK 19:58, 28 April 2009 (BST)

I never get included on any list! Booooo! --Roorgh 12:42, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Please accept my humble apologies but i cannot bring myself to accuse someone of zerging if there is no evidence backing it --MoonShine 12:58, 28 April 2009 (BST)

I should be on the top of this list, I am far more famous than Stepdown, that little hobgoblin always steals my thunder!--Rottentinfish 20:09, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Caught Zerging!

You can't wriggle out of it this time. Here is picture evidence of bunny zergs in action!

and here is the proof regarding AiR and his 3 alts! --Roorgh 17:27, 4 May 2009 (BST)

As you can clearly see they are stalking prey in these pictures, damn they're black hearts! Action should be taken against these crazy bunnies!

Okay, this is getting really stupid.

I want everyone to sit down, shut up and listen what I'm about to say. I don't want to hear any bickering about the points I make, I'm not 'starting a dialogue' or opening this up for discussion. You're all going to listen, take on board what I have to say, and stop this stupid shit.

Firstly to the Beavers. You were shown to be cheating, you need to suck it up and move on instead of crying that other people cheat. Yes, some Bunnies were caught using multiple accounts, but you are VERY aware that they have been dealt with and no longer participate in any Bunny related gameplay. You ignore any evidence which proves your players were involved in badness, but are the first and the loudest when it comes to insulting others after the situation has been resolved. You need to stop with this self-righteous defenders-of-all-that-is-good-and-right mentality. You're a group of people playing an ONLINE GAME, not actually zombie hunters fighting a crusade against the undead. It would do you all well to remember that once in a while and stop treating this game like a representation of your lives.

Secondly, Calista. I didn't have anything to do with your "personal" information being put onto twitter or wherever it went. But as I understand it, looking at a public myspace page and then showing things from it does not constitute 'unattainable information.' Do I think it was morally right? Absolutely not. I also think it was dumb as hell and had nothing to do with the game. Is it illegal? Not by a long shot. It's equivalent to wearing a name badge then getting upset when people use your name.

Thirdly, Bunnies. Can we stop with all this childish shit please? You know I've made my feelings clear about this in the past. Every dumb thing that you guys do goes to support the Beaver claim that we're a bunch of cheating, underhanded dickheads. I joined the game because I thought it would be fun, I didn't sign up to get dragged into some retarded turf-war between two groups who seem to have lost sight of what the game is about.

So in closing, can every stop being so annoying and can we ALL get back to playing the game for fun? I think we'd all benefit from it. --Jason Stafam 12:22, 28 April 2009 (BST)

I've worked with Jason Statham --newton pippin 13:36, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Good on you. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:40, 28 April 2009 (BST)

No, you're wrong, Jason Stafam. You don't even know what it takes to prove someone is a zerg. So no one takes what you are saying on that score seriously. Plus you know that your friends went through the trouble, which they say was actually very easy - which tells me something, of linking two of my alts that had no public link. Also, if you, in your blinding fit of integrity, have such a hard time with your friends' actions, why are you still with them? You seem to have a problem with basic reading comprehension as well, LinktheWindow suggested it was illegal, not I. It is extremely unethical in that it was meant to intimidate me. In a game, because the Bunnies aren't getting what they want. How charming. The merry go round we've been on is this: We prove that the Bunnies are doing something unethical/against the rules, The Bunnies get mad and do something off the reservation and howl OMG UR ZERGING, We roll our eyes.--Calista griffin 15:48, 28 April 2009 (BST)

See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Why do you guys insist on perpetuating this stupid childishness between the two teams? Why can't you move on? The only reason I signed up to this wiki in the first place was to tell everyone to grow up and stop behaving like little kids, if you can't do that, I pity you. And speaking directly to you now Calista, you're supposed to be an intelligent adult woman. Perhaps it was time you began acting like one and took the first step by giving all of this a rest.

Oh, and as for my integrity. I don't see you leaving your group after the iwitness report showed them to be using the same tactics you have such a problem with. So how about you drop that straw man? :) --Jason Stafam 16:13, 28 April 2009 (BST)

because it's not true and because there is no straw man, nice try, though.--Calista griffin 16:22, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Jason, if that's your only motive for coming onto the wiki then you won't be here for long. It doesn't work like that, people will always act like kids here. And secondly, less than a year ago the Beavers were the most effective anti-zerg group I've ever seen and I would find it very hard to believe they had sunk so low as to demonstrate such double standards. I could be wrong, but it would take solid proof to make me think otherwise. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 22:44, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Bloody hell, you think you'd be pleased somebody has bothered to look at your myspace page at all... --Roorgh 16:29, 28 April 2009 (BST)

All of the drama on this page seems to be related to the zerg list that was added. There is a simple way to end the drama. The beavers can admit that some of their members were working with zergers - case closed. Further more, we'll happily remove their names from the list if we are told that the members involved have been reprimanded and that they won't be doing it again. Until then, the list (and apparently the drama) remains. We have the proof and it is clear what happened. --M4rduK 23:18, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Alternatively you can drop the issue until you have more proof that is also more substantial than the one iwitness presented here and actually prove a pattern of behavior. I'd say it would be smart to stop some of the other stuff too but we both know that's not gonna happen until you get bored of the game you're playing which isn't the game they're playing.--Karek^maps?! 03:27, 29 April 2009 (BST)

We have just as much, or more, proof than has been used to convict others of zerging. It's a two-way street. --M4rduK 16:34, 29 April 2009 (BST)

I'm not sure about your MOB zombie's name, Karek. A zombie called Mardul seems a bit suspect to me! --Stepdown 17:21, 29 April 2009 (BST)

That doesn't stop the fact that I worked with Jason Statham --newton pippin 00:44, 29 April 2009 (BST)

Was he wearing a shirt?--Jason Stafam 01:24, 29 April 2009 (BST)

You're not the fluffer for the Speedo scenes are you? --Stepdown 17:24, 29 April 2009 (BST)

He did have some kind of shirt on. And really bad hair extensions. He also kept throwing chess pieces around. No Speedo's were harmed, Stepdown ;) --newton pippin 02:15, 30 April 2009 (BST)

I call shenanigans. Statham would never cover up his dome, nor would he ever wear a shirt for longer than 30 seconds in a scene. You're a fraud, Pippin! --Jason Stafam 02:54, 30 April 2009 (BST)

All Kosher. No shenanigans, or fraudulant activity here. :) The Dome was covered, his shirt sometime stayed on and occassionally a bishop would fly past whilst he swore at Richie for winning another game of chess. --newton pippin 03:00, 30 April 2009 (BST)

Undeadite Call to Brainz...err...Armz

Hey we're currently in Heytown visiting (and eating) are old friends the Mad Caskers. Seeing as how you guys are about the same size as and in the same area as us, we thought you might enjoy joining us for the buffet, maybe the Beavers will try to come to their aid and we can beat up on your old rival as well.

Feel free to contact me on our Undeadites wiki or the Forum. Rnrarrrh!!!--El Coo Cooi 08:08, 2 May 2009 (BST)

Prepare to be disappointed then. We can't get a decent fight out of the beavers while taunting them from within 'their' suburb. If they can't combat revive whilst whining about zergs they don't seem to be interested. Your offer is tempting though, so you may very well hear from one of our older zombies at some point. --Roorgh 13:04, 2 May 2009 (BST)

It's a very tempting offer, will leave it to M4rduK to make a final decision. The mall's pretty dead at the moment anyway! --Stepdown 16:12, 2 May 2009 (BST)

Ooh oooh oooh! Zombie roadtrip? I call shotgun! (Yes, I'm aware of the irony)--Jason Stafam 18:14, 2 May 2009 (BST)

I'll sit on your lap, if it hasn't rotted away by now, and if you promise not to eat my shoulder when we're travelling ;-) Zharni 15:32, 3 May 2009 (BST)

Sounds like fun! It certainly can't be worse than sitting around the Mall and watching the Beavers not take it back...ever. We've moved down to Chaffey Alley PD for the time being and are currently enjoying the local brainz. There are still plenty of noms left though of you guys want to partake too. Let's get together and organize some brain nomming in Heytown. :D Hopefully the Mad Caskers are more entertaining than the Dribbling(ly slow) Beavers --M4rduK 22:08, 2 May 2009 (BST)

Well we've made it our mission to hammer the Caskers anytime we're in the neighborhood, as they're officially listed on our wiki as one of our arch enemies. We're going to be seeing all the sights in their territory so feel free to drop in and have a bite.--El Coo Cooi 23:18, 2 May 2009 (BST)

Mission Accomplished. Over the past 5 days every building in Heytown was ruined by the Bunnes and the Undeadites. :D --M4rduK 14:01, 8 May 2009 (BST)

The Dead Bunnies Surrender!

We Surrender!

No we bloody don't!

Brains

Bit fowl? With a hint of potato? Does that make me taste good? I somewhat wonder... --Alexander Abramov 10:15, 6 May 2009 (BST)

Candy and Chocolate diet if you please! Nothing better than Candy Chocolate brains! --Rottentinfish 18:27, 7 May 2009 (BST)

I see... so that's how they do it... wow... --Alexander Abramov 18:09, 8 May 2009 (BST)

Nobody wants to play with us :(

"#beaverslodge Don't React to the Bunnies on the Wiki"

lmao - translation = "every time we talk they prove us wrong...so quit talking!" --M4rduK 14:01, 8 May 2009 (BST)

It is most probably because you aren't worth the metagaming trauma you are trying to cause. That's definitely how it looks to the outside community. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 04:00, 10 May 2009 (BST)

Thank you for the compliment --Roorgh 07:35, 10 May 2009 (BST)

Ugh, I just lost the game. --Stepdown 09:37, 10 May 2009 (BST)

Does going to forums and repeatedly accusing us of being a zerg group based on the month old actions of 2 players count as metagaming as well? We tried to settle this in the game...with teeth and bullets - we're merely matching tactics so we can keep up! --M4rduK 14:08, 10 May 2009 (BST)

So that basically means your admitting you still zerg because you think they zerg? --Karek^maps?! 00:30, 11 May 2009 (BST)

That's exactly what he's saying. Why I only finished creating four new accounts last night. Three of them are now currently hunting you down. Don't worry though, I don't think I can actually keep track of more than fifteen accounts so I'm going to limit myself to those. Fifteen is enough for anybody though really isn't it? It isn't? well I suppose I could try making some more... --Roorgh 07:08, 11 May 2009 (BST)

I've personally got 800 zerg accounts. None of the other dead bunnies are holding the mall at all, they all left to have cake with their faithful companion cubes. (I'm being told it's delicious and moist.) It's all me using my 2000 zergs to stop you from taking it back. I log in from all pcs around the world to control my 50,000 zergs like an evil zombie dictator. Did I mention the 900 million zergs I'm using to control the mall? (Why is it whenever you're outmaneuvered or just overpowered, it's because the other side cheats? Nobody likes a sore loser.....)--Jason Stafam 19:01, 11 May 2009 (BST)

LOL karek, you should maybe google metagaming...because it doesn't mean zerging. :D --M4rduK 12:09, 11 May 2009 (BST)

If that's what you meant you worded it extremely poorly. It read very much like you were channeling Zeug there. --Karek^maps?! 20:07, 11 May 2009 (BST)

Dang it Stepdown I just lost the game too. --DTangent 00:02, 12 May 2009 (BST)

Practice what you preach

Didn't you guys bitch us out that we attacked the mall when you left? Well you didn't all leave. We still killed 15 of you. We had that strike planned for days. Just great luck I suppose. What I'm saying is... The UBCS isn't in town for two days, and you attack. Not gonna say anything.... ~~hypocrites...~~ --Haliman - Talk 15:35, 10 May 2009 (BST)

What the hell are you talking about? --Roorgh 16:27, 10 May 2009 (BST)

We were off in Heytown doing our thing, it took us about a week to ruin the whole place, and we're back. There is nothing hypocritical about it, we haven't jumped on the airwaves boasting about our victory over your group, which is the only point we objected to. We weren't boo-hooing about survivors retaking the mall once we left, that's to be expected.

Sorry if you feel cheated out of a fight, maybe if you spent less time planning you'd keep up with us ;) --Stepdown 18:58, 10 May 2009 (BST)

Indeed, we objected to you claiming our road trip as your victory. Honestly, you take one little vacation.... --Jason Stafam 19:26, 10 May 2009 (BST)

It should also be pointed out that we promised to return to Bunnyville after our vacation, and our itinerary was quite proudly displayed on the main page. Are you sure the timing of UBCS leaving town for a day or two was coincidence? --Roorgh 19:36, 10 May 2009 (BST)

Haha, how convenient! We sat in the mall for two weeks waiting for a response and when we finally leave we get "We were just about to kick your ass!". I wonder, is there any event that cannot be spun into a victory for the beavers and their pals? ;) --M4rduK 19:44, 10 May 2009 (BST)

Time to get on those radios folks! The Dead Bunnies went for another walk! Yet again we left our home The Dowdney Mall in Bunnyville unnatended! Time to start claiming we were kicked out!! Hey a hollow victory is a victory none the less! --Rottentinfish 12:04, 12 May 2009 (BST)

Containin' Monthly

You've been mentioned :P. --Haliman - Talk 19:25, 10 May 2009 (BST)

Link? --Roorgh 19:26, 10 May 2009 (BST)

Nevermind, you'd updated your post --Roorgh 19:27, 10 May 2009 (BST)

Excerpt from the premiere edition of UBCS Containin' Monthly, 9 May 2009: --DeadLeeErnest 15:52, 11 May 2009 (BST)

    "Locals are confused as to what to call revived Dead Bunnies members.
     'Look out, everyone! We're under attacked by bunnies!'"

I guess you can call us the Undead Bunnies? --DTangent 00:07, 12 May 2009 (BST)

In general, the confusion you describe is rather short-lived. --DeadLeeErnest 15:52, 11 May 2009 (BST)

Your mum

D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 12:14, 11 May 2009 (BST)

Mum - why did you leave all those years ago?

--Roorgh 12:35, 11 May 2009 (BST)

Whyyyyyyyyy!

D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 12:53, 11 May 2009 (BST)

Calista!! You got eyebrows! We approve! --Rottentinfish 12:50, 11 May 2009 (BST)

Santlerville, are you all gigantic pussies?

http://iwrecords.urbandead.info/05-17-09_2200hrs_PUBLIC/IN_74-28_BUILDING_OF_62__ef7-40e-ede.html

8 zombies attacking a building with 62 people in it (getting it down to 56 before running out of ap) counts as a zerg rush?

I know a lot of you are morons who cry wolf at the slightest sign of danger, but come on!

Don't be daft now, Jason. -Rddr

Hehe what did you expect from these sad losers?

Somebody has spraypainted AND THE ZERGERS ARE VICTORIOUS! onto a wall.

No! The Dead Bunnies were victorious dear Beavers, if you look again you will see we ruined the NT.....

--Rottentinfish 18:39, 19 May 2009 (BST)

Bunnies - idem quod Zergers. ;P -Rddr

Rddr idem quod Whiny Beaver

Seriously, at least the Beavers were fervent with their pathetics mewings. Put some effort in if you intend to play here. --Roorgh 15:37, 20 May 2009 (BST)

Rddr - Venimus, Vidimus, Vicimus. --Jason Stafam 17:58, 20 May 2009 (BST)

Jason's response was more than acceptable! Bravo, i say! (Though i think it's just "Veni, Vidi, Vici"). Roorgh - work on your Latin comebacks! Oh, i'm not a Beaver, and i'm not getting tied up in this debacle. I just like to mess around with you and generate a bit of lovely banter. :) XOXO-Rddr

Maybe Rddr ibidem Dribbling Beavers? Nice to see a touch of classical sophistication on our page! --Stepdown 14:31, 21 May 2009 (BST)

Unlike some of my motley brethren, I only claim to know a smattering of the English language. Certainly Zombese and Latin are not in my repertoire. It should be noted that the general consensus seems to be that your wwwlof shows potential - keep it coming! --Roorgh 22:28, 21 May 2009 (BST)

Oh, Roorgh, that hurt. Do you remember last week when you went to the swimming baths and all the girls laughed at you? It hurt like that. On the inside. ;_; -Rddr

I'm going to see Morrissey in Manchester tomorrow, any of you lot want a T-Shirt? I believe they're about 15 quid, so i'll need the money up front by at least 3 o'clock tomorrow. Thanks!-Rddr

If you could that would be great, I was thinking of going out tomorrow, but I haven't got a stitch to wear. Stepdown 17:37, 22 May 2009 (BST)

A dead wittle wabbit

I've no idear what your group is about. I Just stumbled upon this talk page and thought you might appreciate this sweet little graphic.

She's hot. --Stepdown 00:35, 20 May 2009 (BST)

I'd hit it. --Jason Stafam 17:49, 20 May 2009 (BST)

MOM! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO --Rottentinfish 13:17, 21 May 2009 (BST)

Man, I told her not to leave my house so early in the morning, but she said she'd be able to miss the heavy traffic. I guess she didn't. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:19, 21 May 2009 (BST)

Super-mega-awesome-tacular-tastic zombiecaek danger squid penis gigantor extreme alpha turbo. TO THE MAX!!!!!111

i don't know what's really going on santlerville... but perusing your page here... whether what you say about certain survivor groups up in in the North Pole is true or not... you clowns certainly haven't taken the "high road" when it comes to slander, unfounded accusations and general asshattery. yaaaaaawn.... --WanYao 21:59, 22 May 2009 (BST)

After what you wrote you have the audacity to accuse us of slander? What a hypocrite you are --Roorgh 21:17, 23 May 2009 (BST)

We made a pretty chart, to show you all just how much we dont care, why didn't you look at our pretty chart ? We are now sad bunnies because our hard work has gone unapreciated. Thank you for showing us how to take the highroad! We would be lost without you. --Rottentinfish 22:24, 22 May 2009 (BST)

If you didn't care then why did you make the chart...?--MoonShine 23:58, 22 May 2009 (BST)

...And respond so vigorously to every complaint on this talk page? D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 00:55, 23 May 2009 (BST)

I vigorously respond to your complaint with this! (In case you didn't realise, I'm totally pointing at my junk right now --Jason Fock'n Stafam 23:25, 23 May 2009 (BST)

That's not all we do vigorously!--M4rduK 11:30, 23 May 2009 (BST)

Why do you ? Are you stalking us ? You spend more time here then we do! I'm scared! I want my mum --Rottentinfish 11:15, 23 May 2009 (BST)

We tried the high road. Didn't work. So we decided that we're going to have some fun instead. You guys should try it sometime. (I also edited the topic of this section because it really wasn't cool enough) --Jason Fock'n Stafam 20:53, 23 May 2009 (BST)

I like where this section is going... --M4rduK 21:02, 23 May 2009 (BST)

The Leporidation Proclamation.

This proclamation states that The Dead Bunnies (Hereby referred to as Bunnies) and the Dribbling Beavers (henceforth referred to as Beavers) are considered for entry into a pact of non-aggression with the option to continue towards an entente-cordiale, circle-jerk, or full blown sex.

We, The Dead Bunnies hereby state that we shall:

1. Offer full details of our robust and well-hung zerg army.
2. Cease all hostilities towards Beavers, Chipmunks, Raccoons and Ducktales.
3. Protect any and all Beavers when they are unable to succeed in battle.
4. Ensure no taxation without representation

This peace-offering does not come without certain terms which must be adhered to in full, without exception.

1. We require the sacrifice of one (1) virgin on the first night of the full moon
1a. Although we would prefer something female and nubile, this can be Nils Jackson if you so choose.
2. We require that all Beavers become shaven. We will not ally with hairy beavers. It is unsanitary and unsightly.
3. Calista Griffin MUST grow eyebrows. This point is non-negotiable
4. Stalin and Calista are no longer to be attacked for their love. We live in a modern society where the love between a despotic dictator and Stalin should be accepted for what it is, no matter how creepy.
5. No more root beer. Seriously, it's enough already

The Dead Bunnies reserve the right to withdraw from this agreement at any time if the terms and conditions of this truce are not met, or it is deemed that considerable effort is not being made to achieve said conditions.

The preceding document has been signed by the following: and witnessed by a legally recognised cat which can play a keyboard.

--Jason "Fock'n" Stafam 23:55, 23 May 2009 (BST)

--Bill S. Preston "M4rduK" Esquire 23:57, 23 May 2009 (BST)

--Marquis "roorgh" de Sade 00:05, 24 May 2009 (BST)

--Bum "bumrocks" Rocks 00:30, 24 May 2009 (BST)

--Jessica "Zharni" Rabbit 11:44, 24 May 2009 (BST)

--Darren "Was on vacation" Tangent" 06:34, 22 June 2009 (BST)

Representatives of The Dead Bunnies

Representatives of The Dribbling Beavers

This notice has also been posted on The Dribbling Beavers talk page in case of malicious wiki editing by those who cannot accept the peace process.

Play us off, notarised Keyboard Cat

I like that last bit. Does it imply that you've fucked up really badly? D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 09:46, 24 May 2009 (BST)

If that helps you feel better, sure. But please, don't stand in the way of the road to peace. This isn't a time for soundbites, but the hand of history is on our shoulder. --Jason "Fock'n" Stafam 00:18, 25 May 2009 (BST)

I won't stand in the way, however it has to be said, aren't you two supposed to be at each other's throats? Isn't that what a zombie a apocalypse game is a about? Or is this more specifically in a metagaming sense? D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 00:26, 25 May 2009 (BST)

Defence (yes with a c. Learn to spell people)

Defence: Noun. the action of defending from or resisting attack.

Residents of Santlerville (especially the Dribbling Beavers) - note the word resist. What we see when we attack is either :

We kill you.
You run away.

This is not defending.

We even started telling you when we were going to attack in the hopes of getting a better fight...

We wouldn't mind so much but oh boy do you make a fuss about defending Santlerville on the radio. Seriously, keep this up and we'll need to introduce a page on the wiki just for your definition of the word defending! --Roorgh 22:28, 12 July 2009 (BST)

It’s hard for me not to get sidetracked by the linguistic discussion... but naturally, I wanted to know what our friend The Stath thought about this. So I asked him:

Oi! Oy donnow what you fock'n beavas fink youse is all doin' wiv all dis cryin' and whoinin', but as far as da Stafe is concerned it's toime you pansies did a shit or got off da fock'n pot, now donnit? Oy sees a lot of sittin' onna pot but oy don't see no shittin'! Oy knows you beavas are full of it! Oy's even got some Stafe maff to help you: 1 PUNCH + 1 KICK = 1 CORPSE.

So 'ow about we see a little bit less whoinin' anna whingin' anna bitchin' anna moanin', anna bit more fock'n foightin, savvy?

Now if youse'll excuse me, oy's gotta go droive round inna flash bloody sazz wagon, bloindin' cunts wif how fock’n shoiny da bloody fing is. Laytas! --Jason 'Fock'n' Stafam 23:05, 12 July 2009 (BST)

Building Information Center

Hello, I am here representing the Building Information Center. As one of the largest groups in the game, you are capable of updating the status reports in your home suburb and any other suburbs you visit with ease. In essence, that is why I am here- to request that your group helps contribute to and update te BIC.--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 23:58, 22 July 2009 (BST)

The Dead Bunnies, zerging, and Santlerville

First off, let me state that I am not affiliated with the Dribbling Beavers. I prefer to not join any groups, as I often switch sides. I have, however, noticed that the Dead Bunnies have an extremely large group, one which spans a large chunk of the entire zombie population of Santlerville. You are zerging. You can lie about it and pretend to hunt zergers as much as you want; it doesn't hide the fact that you are zergers yourself. Buildings that are ruined by the Dead Bunnies often have 50+ zombies outside of them at the peak of the siege. Stop being asshats and start playing the game fairly. (posted by AnonSantlerville who was too cowardly to put their name to it and stupid enough to forget we can see who posted this --Roorgh 14:47, 24 July 2009 (BST))

I'm not with the aforementioned groups, nor the Bunnies. Provide proof or shut up.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 23:44, 23 July 2009 (BST)

Oh no! AnonSantlerville accuses the bunnies of zerging. Whatever shall we do? That's it lads, the game is up. Time to quit playing Urban Dead. --Roorgh 14:47, 24 July 2009 (BST)

Actually, I think I'll apply some of that great logic as displayed by the magnificent AnonSantlerville. You're not willing to say who you are, so I'm now accusing you of not only being a beaver but that you also zerg too. This is a simple case of projection. You fail in your zerging attempts because keyboards confuse you and to justify it you attempt to sully the good name of the bunnies. Well it won't work. If you find Urband Dead too hard may I suggest tic-tac-toe? (but not against a computer of course, start with a dead pet) --Roorgh 14:53, 24 July 2009 (BST)

If a large group automatically = zerging, then I assume that the 8 groups with more members than us are zerging as well? I'll be keeping an eye on their talk pages to wait for your brilliantly thought out accusations there as well! You're a laughable idiot and a pathetic coward. At least have the balls to say who you are when you post your silly accusations. If I don't see your posts on the other 8 talk pages soon, then we will all know just how full of shit you are. Proof or GTFO. --M4rduK 17:36, 24 July 2009 (BST)

Fock'n oi! Oy fink dere's summink you should know. Dere's only 2 fings Da Staf is good at. Knobbin fit birds and foightin'. Wait, 3 fings. Knobbin' fit birds, roidin' around in fock'n flash sazzy wagons, and foightin'. Now unless you's a fit bird troyin ta get moy attenshun wiv some fock'n banta, oy's gonna hafta take off moy shir', grease moyself down and bugger you roight up for all this silly bollocks you's spoutin', now isn' oy?

When moi ancesta Alexander da fock'n Stafam conquered da world, did 'e zerg too?

Oy don't want an answer. Fock'n rhetorical, now isn't oy? --Jason 'Fock'n' Stafam 18:45, 24 July 2009 (BST)

Actually, yeah, considering 90% of the foot men were useless meat shields liek zerglings. :D--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 01:08, 26 July 2009 (BST)

--Hi. My name is there. I prefer to stay anonymous with groups like you, as whenever someone ticks you off you send you army of zergs after them. (posted earlier by a a whiney bitch --Roorgh 09:12, 26 July 2009 (BST))

Well as even simple use of a wiki is beyond you (signing your posts, correct indentation etc) I suppose something as advanced as irc would be quite beyond your level of intellect. I'll try and explain it in as simple words as possible for you. Fancy computer that we play Urban Dead on lets us talk with each other at same time. You'll also be shocked to learn that not every zed in Santlerville is us. We can't help it if zombies have heard how easy it is to attack buildings there. Lastly, and most importantly, you need to rein in that ego of yours pal. You think we're going to waste the bunnies time and effort going after you? If we could zombify the local wildlife we might consider sending an undead chipmunk after you but even that would probably be overkill... --Roorgh 09:30, 26 July 2009 (BST)

Sorry if I'm not as literate with Wiki formats as you. I don't use them and personally don't give a shit about them. It's funny though, you seem very concerned about my accusation, despite your chart stating that the Dead Bunnies have a very low level of giving a shit. --AnonSantlerville

My bet is they're bored.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 01:36, 27 July 2009 (BST)

A little yes :-) We're getting bugger all fight out of the beavers these days. It's a little sad to see them so whipped (just a little though) --Roorgh 08:13, 27 July 2009 (BST)

It's all about applying the correct level of education. We managed to teach the beavers that falsely accusing us of zerging was a bad idea and now we've got you signing your posts - and people think our style doesn't work! If you don't give a shit about the wiki though why are you posting at all AnonSantlerville? If you are going to do something do it properly! Would you like it if somebody pissed in your frontroom just because they couldn't be bothered learning where the toilet is? Now as far as these zerging claims go, bring on the evidence! you do have evidence... don't you? --Roorgh 08:13, 27 July 2009 (BST)

No. Getting actual evidence of zerging is nigh impossible. AnonSantlerville

Only when you accuse people who aren't actually zerging... --M4rduK 13:37, 27 July 2009 (BST)

There's too many of them and the work as a team whaaaaah! I don't want to play anymore! Has that neatly summarised your point AnonSantlerville? We can't help it that your attempts at zerging were pitiful, but that's no reason to tarnish us with the same brush. You could try asking the beavers for tips about zerging and meatshielding but they're not very good at it either. --Roorgh 14:05, 27 July 2009 (BST)

I've received evidence of the Bunnies zerging from a source who remains anonymous. He was attacked by Robot Zombie Jesus, whom is affiliated with the Dead Bunnies. However, he was not killed by him. Shortly afterwards, his remaining low HP was taken down to zero by a zombie named Dolquin, who joined Urban Dead a few days prior to the attack. This player started out as a zombie, as well. This player may just be a new player who happened to play in the vicinity, but when I eventually gather enough information to prove that you are indeed zerging, this screenshot will prove useful. Think of it as a pawn in a metaphorical chess game. http://tinypic.com/r/21o3tqp/3 Enjoy. --AnonSantlerville

Please do not shorten your name to Santlerville. The suburb is called Santlerville; you're just a deluded nutter. --Roorgh 09:08, 31 July 2009 (BST)

No what you have there is a screenshot of two profiles. If you want I can put up a screen shot of a dribbling beaver and any accused zerger, and shockingly they'll tell me that isn't evidence. So congratulations on your 'massive' discovery. Seriously, is there not even one person who runs around yelling zerg that has an IQ somewhat approaching 100? --Roorgh 08:58, 31 July 2009 (BST)

Seriously, it's like you've been playing the game for a day or two. At least when the beavers bitched about us they had screenshots with the death of somebody along with the log showing at least two zombies. Your screenshot shows nothing at all. You need the screenshot of the death and this supposed interaction between zergers. Of course you'll still be wrong, and we'll continue to laugh at you but at least you won't appear as idiotic as you currently do... --Roorgh 09:08, 31 July 2009 (BST)

So where is the proper evidence then? Why haven't we seen a link to this irrefutable proof laid out on Resensitized? Come on AnonSantlerville, you're looking like an inept, attention seeking Beaver wannabe right now. After all, considering how long we've been 'zerging' you must have a mountain of evidence... --Roorgh 06:53, 2 August 2009 (BST)

Taking screenshots of your obvious hordes of alts would not be very good evidence. No, I need to wait for you to use several zombies on one single act. -- posted by AnonTard

That shouldn't be very hard for you to do, considering that we work closely together on IRC and usually time things out very well. Please, feel free to gather as much evidence as you want that demonstrates our superior tactics! To be honest...the fact that you *haven't* gathered such "evidence" so far makes me seriously question your mental capacities. Hang out in Santlerville for a couple of days and you should have more evidence of our awesomeness than you can stand. :D --M4rduK 21:36, 3 August 2009 (BST)

It's funny, how does your group have all those members? You consist of about 50% of the active zombies in Santlerville. Odd how that works out, eh? I mean, you don't even recruit members in-game! --AnonSantlerville

h m m? ♥ Moonie ^{Talk Testimonials} 11:27, 6 August 2009 (BST)

More evidence: http://i26.tinypic.com/2h54cid.jpg AnonSantlerville

Congratulations! a picture so fucking grainy I can't make out any of the details and with no way of actually connecting the profiles to these zombies beyond trusting you, a muppet with a history of half-baked accusations. Please tell me you're not involved in law enforcement wherever you live because if you are I feel sorry for the victims of your piss poor investigative technique. As you've yet again shown you've clearly got the mental capacity of a drunken chipmunk piss off and let the adults talk. --Roorgh 19:20, 11 August 2009 (BST)

You're right. Two zombies in a seige together means zerging.--Yonnua Koponen^{Talk ! Contribs} 19:32, 11 August 2009 (BST)

Are you on glue? Is there a silver paint mark around your nose and mouth? Is this you?

Anonman! Fighter of the zergman!
Champion of the bum!
Master of detection and pictures for everyone!

Seriously, I want what you've been huffing. --Jason 'Fock'n' Stafam 19:55, 11 August 2009 (BST)

I could seriously love you simply for that picture alone! Charlie is the greatest, even more so when it comes to dealing with Day Man! --DBH T 20:44, 11 August 2009 (BST)

FUCK! Well, it was a good run but it looks like the zerging game is up for us. AnonSantlerville finally caught is red handed! I can't imagine proof any more solid than being attacked by two different zombies in the same time period during a siege. And to top it off you managed to make the proof even MORE solid (I wouldn't have thought that was even possible) by capturing it in an ultra-grainy print screen with red lines that clearly point out the zerging! Well played sir...well played... --M4rduK 19:55, 11 August 2009 (BST)

lolol, why is it that most of the work is done by zombies that had been created only a week or two beforehand? not to mention they ALL started off as zombies. And if you can't see every letter in that picture, go get your fucking eyes checked. Better whip out your other UD wiki accounts, too, because I'm starting to suspect that you have a few of those, as well.AnonSantlerville

Of course you suspect we have multiple wiki accounts. You think there's one person controlling 70 odd dead bunnies so based on that level of stupidity we didn't think you'd contain it to literally just Urban Dead. Better go off and whip up some grainy photo's showing two people editing a page to prove it. Anything more to add to the constant drivel you post here? --Roorgh 20:30, 11 August 2009 (BST)

Says the person who's made an account to troll a group.--Yonnua Koponen^{Talk ! Contribs} 20:31, 11 August 2009 (BST)

Me? Who am I trolling? --Roorgh 20:52, 11 August 2009 (BST)

No, my response was to him.--Yonnua Koponen^{Talk ! Contribs} 21:39, 11 August 2009 (BST)

Sorry about that, my mistake (Jason didn't think you were referring to me either) --Roorgh 21:59, 11 August 2009 (BST)

Don't worry, Anon! I have the proof of their wiki-zerging! -- http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/SethXander/?action=view&current=pruf.png --Yonnua Koponen^{Talk ! Contribs} 22:56, 11 August 2009 (BST)

fock. looks loike oy's been caught wiv moy fock'n pants round moy bloody ankles now donnit? don't worry though, oy's only knobbin a fit ukrainian bird. --Roorgh 23:23, 11 August 2009 (BST)

Oh shit. Busted. -- Jason 'Fock'n' Stafam 23:24, 11 August 2009 (BST)

Oh man, I LOLed at that Yonnua Koponen :D - --M4rduK 23:20, 11 August 2009 (BST)

AH HA! I now have solid proof that AnonSantlerville is the product of incest and spends his weekends fucking chickens (live and dead) -

--M4rduK 20:39, 11 August 2009 (BST)

Understandably, AnonSantlerville is upset that his investigative research is being mocked in this way. So he sent me the following evidence from his latest undercover work, to prove that he's the real deal, and that we should all be very worried. http://xs142.xs.to/xs142/09332/zergproof655.jpg As you can see, the evidence is overwhelming. -- Jason 'Fock'n' Stafam 20:44, 11 August 2009 (BST)

Gentlemen, I feel that all this back and forth goes against this graph[2] We've already spoken our piece. Why are we still responding to this crap? Anon, grow a pair and come back with a real account. --DTangent 08:52, 13 August 2009 (BST)

Kittithaj

Oi, allo. Da Staf' ere. Oy jus' wanna give a little wave anna slap anna tickle to Kittithaj. Oy's been listenin' to the radio now donnoy? Oy noticed 'e's made more of an effort to make some fock'n organoisation for da survoivas in one day than those bloody beavas have done inna last 6 months, now donnit? Oy fink this fella should be the new beava captain. 'Speshly since he's got some fock'n eyebrows. Oy, 'a's not one o dem euphe-fock'n-misms. 'E's actually got eyebrows.--Jason 'Fock'n' Stafam 00:40, 24 July 2009 (BST)

Well, my effort caused the Ducat Building to be targeted and destroyed. Damn. :( I must go somewhere else, but I'm not telling you this time. -- Kittithaj 23:44, 25 July 2009 (BST)

We came to give you a hug, we just get rowdy at partys --Rottentinfish 22:45, 30 July 2009 (BST)

I think Kittithaj is kind of a prick. I mean he takes the game way too seriously. I try to compliment him on his efforts and being above using Beaver tactics but he calls me hostile like he was a lover that I scorned. I like that he updates the attack reports impartially but I wonder what he does outside the game, if anything. --DTangent 21:35, 8 August 2009 (BST)

He's good people. And he is our enemy, of course he calls you hostile. :P --Jason 'Fock'n' Stafam 23:24, 8 August 2009 (BST)

But I've never done anything hostile except for PKing Beavers... And how is it that someone can be so "immersed" in their online role in the game they can't take a compliment from a fellow player? --DTangent 23:54, 8 August 2009 (BST)

I still love you DT <3 --Jason 'Fock'n' Stafam 21:03, 9 August 2009 (BST)

I would like to ask something

I noice a lot of groups run around calling you all zergers, and as a former resident of Santlerville I noticed a few things that were interesting. Often before you all would seige there would be a large number of zombies standing outside the target buildings much larger then what the Game statistics would list. Now i could assume that it is the random ferals running around standing outside thinking you all are going to attack, I understand, i have a member in the RRF and Batshit Insane so believe me I understand timed attacks, and ferals helping you out. What i find most interesting is that you don't list a forum, no where on this talk page does anyone ask for a link to one to join. Yet according to your own Graph your numbers have grown. Im not gonna be like everyone else and shout zerg but that part just doesn't make much sense to me. Care to shed a little light on the subject --

Timmah!

Talk

15:47, 27 July 2009 (BST)

I thought this was written elsewhere but I can't see it on this page. So here's an extract of a post written elsewhere by our lord and master M4rduK:

M4rduK said:

To answer any questions/doubts about our group - we come from a private forum that we are all a member of. I found this game and started playing and then made a push to recruit members for a clan on that forum. There have been 2 major drives for clan membership, which is reflected in the join dates of many of our members. We plan attacks out a couple of days in advance and try to stay well organized, which is why we succeed in group attacks.

As stated, we're a private forum completely unconnected to Urban Dead. We're not looking to increase our ranks either here or on the forum itself, so that's why you won't find a link to any of our resources. Quite simple really once you know. I can't comment on the behaviour of ferals in the game. Some may be friends of the Dead Bunnies who get told about our attacks in real life - I have no idea. --Roorgh 18:26, 27 July 2009 (BST)

There didn't use to be such large groups of ferals to be honest. I think that's merely a side-effect of us rampaging over Santlerville - easy noms for those that log in at the right time. --Roorgh 18:28, 27 July 2009 (BST)

Which forum, then? Until you give us a viable source, everyone will continue to list you as zergs. --Haliman - Talk 20:57, 27 July 2009 (BST)

Private forum. We're under no obligation to tell you or anybody else and certainly even less inclined with that attitude. It's genuinely none of your business. If the self-righteous arseholes of this community want to label us as zergs based on that 'evidence' then they are free to go ahead and do so. In return we'll not give a shit if we offend said arseholes and will behave as we damn well please. The wannabe police of UD can quite frankly go fuck themselves. --Roorgh 22:11, 27 July 2009 (BST)

All bark and no bite, eh? Oh wow, you said a few big words. You have yet to give us any viable proof that you're the innocent players you want us to think you are. --Haliman - Talk 22:16, 27 July 2009 (BST)

What part can you not get through your thick skull? If you want to be part of the clusterfuck bunch that believe yelling zerg places all the responsibility on whoever to defend themselves then be our guest. Just don't expect us to care what you think about anything. --Roorgh 22:22, 27 July 2009 (BST)

Except for the bite of a completely ruined Santlerville...yes, no bite. We will provide no proof of anything. Why? Because that's not how the world works. YOU have made the accusations, so YOU provide proof to prove that YOU are not full of shit. How about this - I claim that when you're alone you dress up in lingerie and masturbate with extra chunky peanut butter. Provide proof that this is not the truth! See how absurd it is? The people who accuse others are responsible for providing proof of their claims, not the other way around. --M4rduK 22:24, 27 July 2009 (BST)

I'm going to say two things. The first is I take your word, you don't cheat, we all witnessed The Many and The Dead come from forums outside of UD. The second is simple, to everyone going around yelling "zerg" its not nice, if you have proof, present it, if not just stop. These guys are pretty funny, I laughed when visiting this page. Just let them be, if there cheating prove it, if not, sing a new song. --

Timmah!

Talk

22:27, 27 July 2009 (BST)

Slightly confused, didn't the Beavers prove you were zerging? Isn't that what started all this crap? --ϑϑℜ 22:43, 27 July 2009 (BST)

Oh, and didn't you then admit to it, only with a response of a flimsy promise that it won't happen again? I'm not part of those that are crying zerg, but you owe these people the complete story, at leased. --ϑϑℜ 22:44, 27 July 2009 (BST)

Oh wow, you really want to go through this again? Yes - 2 of our members were found to have zerged ages ago. They were told to stop and I have never seen them do it again, or heard of them doing it. In fact, I'm not even sure if one of them still plays the game tbh. Anyway, old news is old. Get some new material. --M4rduK 00:08, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Oh DDR. I never took you for one of the deluded whiners. You know the story of what happened and how it was dealt with. So pretending you didn't get the full story is disingenuous. Also it's pretty pathetic to stoop so low as to use past actions of members to fuel a fire which has long gone out.

So although you say you aren't one crying zerg, you're currently acting like the kid who encourages one boy to punch another then when the teacher comes says "I didn't hit him!" You're a mod, you're supposed to hold yourself to a higher standard than that.

Stop being so ridiculous, stop trying to indirectly create drama out of old news, and get back to moderating things that need it.--Jason 'Fock'n' Stafam 00:25, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Interesting. You're one of the top groups, yet you don't want your forum publicized? Why not? We knew The Dead and LUE's forum. --Haliman - Talk 03:30, 28 July 2009 (BST)

/zom/ did and does the same as well as the Fortress to some extent, your argument is therefore of low quality, but that's about the usual.--Thadeous Oakley 13:08, 28 July 2009 (BST)

You are joking, right? the group /zom/, from the forum called /zom/, didn't publicise their group? You've got to be kidding me. --ϑϑℜ 13:11, 28 July 2009 (BST)

I'm sorry DeedeeR, but if they don't link to their forum on the wiki or anywhere else, then I can't tell that.--Thadeous Oakley 13:16, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Don't be sorry, it's your mistake. And how does being so internet illiterate make me the deedeedee? The Dead didn't link the SA forums from their page, but you knew that well enough. Why, cause of all their drama? Could you have known otherwise, then? --ϑϑℜ 13:19, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Nope.--Thadeous Oakley 13:23, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Exactly. Don't use your moronic tendencies as a basis for arguing that others are wrong. --ϑϑℜ 03:10, 29 July 2009 (BST)

lol --M4rduK 19:33, 29 July 2009 (BST)

Hmmm, how about just because it's none of your fucking business? We're under no obligation to tell anyone anything. And you still haven't proven that you don't dress up in lingerie and masturbate with extra chunky peanut butter. I made the accusation, you're responsible for proving me wrong! You should give us access to your home to prove us wrong...interesting that you won't! That's how it works right? --M4rduK 12:56, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Whoa... What the fuck is up with you guys? Obviously I didn't get the full story or I would never have asked, I don't play with groups and no, I have no affiliation with anything to do with your history, so how could I have known? Not my fault the zerg stigma sticks forever, so don't look at me funny just cause you can't deal with someone simply asking a question. --ϑϑℜ 13:04, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Thad: GTFO and stop stalking my contribs. You're only looking foolish. M4rduk: The difference? There's an army of players who agree with me, while your childish remarks are completely outrageous. Dumbass. --Haliman - Talk 02:55, 29 July 2009 (BST)

I love how you talk about childish remarks only to follow it up yourself with a personal insult. Also, recentchanges > your contribs.--Thadeous Oakley 10:37, 29 July 2009 (BST)

Is there some forum I can go to to report that Haliman111 wears lingerie and masturbates with extra chunky peanut butter? He can't prove he doesn't, so obviously it's true. I need to make sure everyone knows about it because it's so fucking important! Hey guys, am I playing the game right now?!?!?! --M4rduK 12:30, 29 July 2009 (BST)

The same one I go to for you guys. --Haliman - Talk 16:15, 29 July 2009 (BST)

Report us as much as you like because we simply don't care - especially about anything posted at that awful excuse for a site. Oh no! a bunch of cry babies don't like us - boo fucking hoo. Just don't post here asking why we won't tell you anything. Seriously, we have standards and neither you, the beavers or any of the coma victims we were forced to communicate with there come close. --Roorgh 23:11, 29 July 2009 (BST)

Playing the game fairly makes us cry babies now? --Haliman - Talk 03:37, 30 July 2009 (BST)

No, whining like a bitch makes you a cry baby. All you've added to this entire conversation so far is that we're zergs (based on what exactly?) unless we tell you more about us. That's piss poor justification for anything. Our forum is just that, our forum, of which UD is just a tiny part and we're selective about who is gets in. There's no requirement to open it up to every moron that plays UD - all many of you would end up doing is polluting the place. We don't need more noise. So toddle off to zombies.dementiastudios.org and bitch about us there with the other delusional and opinionated morons that are willing to claim an entire group must be zergs based on the fact that we're kicking you ass. --Roorgh 07:59, 30 July 2009 (BST)

I fucking hate everyone. Here I was having a pretty decent and amusing covnversation with these guys and you all ruin it with your petty idiocy. ;_; --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 04:22, 29 July 2009 (BST)

<3 --Haliman - Talk 05:09, 29 July 2009 (BST)

I like these people. And yes, I do believe M4rduK about the Haliman thing. I'd be too afraid to try and find proof or look at it if anyone could find it. --Dark Blue Helmet 02:21, 30 July 2009 (BST)

Aww, Helmet put on the big boy pants trying to fill the shoes of his predecessor. Ffs man, you weren't even an admin when you first got DoIA when Thad "retired." You also just openly endorsed zergs. Then again, if you can't beat them, join them. --Haliman - Talk 03:36, 30 July 2009 (BST)

You know sir bun bun's, this is your page. If Haliman is annoying you as much as he is annoying me right now, just tell him to gtfo.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 04:14, 30 July 2009 (BST)

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw. SA, why you gotta ruin the fun? --Haliman - Talk 04:44, 30 July 2009 (BST)

Really Haliman, that's the best you got? Oh no, I'm scared. --Dark Blue Helmet 12:03, 30 July 2009 (BST)

That isn't the best I've got. I've got more if you want :) --Haliman - Talk 17:30, 30 July 2009 (BST)

Clearly you make friends wherever you go ya extra chunky peanut butter molesting freak. May I suggest pulling it out of the jar and using that massive amount of time to instead learn how to play the game properly. Now you've had plenty of posts to say even one worthwhile thing and you've yet to do so. So if this is all you've got I suggest you take it to your talk page or back to your group masturbation buddies. Further vacuous posts will simply be deleted to avoid bunnies wasting their time reading such dross. --Roorgh 18:45, 30 July 2009 (BST)

Anyone else find it hilarious Haliman actually applied to be staff here?--Jason 'Fock'n' Stafam 22:21, 30 July 2009 (BST)

*raises hand* --DBH T 23:22, 30 July 2009 (BST)

I can only assume the deluded muppet decided there hadn't been enough drama recently from poor editing or bad decision making... --Roorgh 22:44, 30 July 2009 (BST)

*also raises hand* I don't think I've had a more fun read in a looooooonnnggggg while... But it does prove my point of never engaging in wiki drama. You see, if we all just spent all the time you do bickering on the wiki doing something productive, maybe we'd all get somewhere. But I'm rambling. Cheers from Umbrella, Bunnies! Leon Cane 00:58, 31 July 2009 (BST)

EVIL Alliance

EVIL would be interested in forming an alliance with you. Could you imagine? An EVIL Dead Bunny Alliance.... but no seriously,... let's work something out.... -Poodle of doom 22:40, 27 July 2009 (BST)

What do you have in mind? We've pretty much done all we can in Santlerville - 99% of the buildings are ruined and we haven't seen any sort of resistance in a few days. We do like a good road trip though, so let us know what you're interested in and maybe we can meet up for some noms. --M4rduK 23:59, 27 July 2009 (BST)

Well, really I didn't have anything in particular in mind.... However I suppose we'd each work to the others mutual benifit. You know,... say you visit a town, we see to it the doors are wide open, everyone dies but us... or you've got a rouge, or a few pesky individuals to dispatch of, we take care of it, and you overturn a groups HQ or other hideout for us. Whatever really floats your boat really. We're easy to get along with. Really. -Poodle of doom 03:41, 28 July 2009 (BST)

So, what were you guys looking for? We haven't heard anything back from you yet.... -Poodle of doom 21:12, 9 August 2009 (BST)

Help!

There's a child trapped in my cat. -Rddr

Kill one and eat the other - you pick. --M4rduK 00:09, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Why the hell did you stuff a child in your cat? --Roorgh 00:25, 28 July 2009 (BST)

I got chocolate on my peanut butter. Does that count? --Jason 'Fock'n' Stafam 00:28, 28 July 2009 (BST)

*Remembers that one scene in Family Guy with Officer Reeses* -Poodle of doom 03:43, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Man thats just wrong, i hope you cooked the child before feeding it to the poor cat. if it gets indigestion, ill report you to the RSPCA!!!--Rottentinfish 22:34, 30 July 2009 (BST)

Out of curiosity, have you managed to catch Hansel and Gettle yet? -Poodle of doom 05:47, 31 July 2009 (BST)

Calista Griffin is Satan!!!

That's right folks, you heard it here first! Calista Griffin is, in fact, SATAN! I discovered this using the same investigative prowess that AnonSantlerville has used to hunt down and expose zerging! ( as demonstrated here) As this picture shows, they are obviously the same person - http://i32.tinypic.com/30svt4h.jpg - thanks for the insider tips on how to investigate Urban Dead abuse AnonSantlerville! --M4rduK 21:48, 3 August 2009 (BST)

But but thats unpossable?!?-- High Overlord and Lead Conspirator of the Administrative Rebellion. Want help? 08:36, 5 August 2009 (BST)

Dead Bunnies don't know how Urban Dead works, lolz

I love how you guys brag about taking over buildings. Zombies always have the advantage; claiming a building isn't that hard for a large enough zombie horde. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by AnonSantlerville (talk • contribs) 20:13, 4 August 2009.

Lucky for the Bunnies that you have no idea what you're talking about. Zombies are constantly the minority in the game and for a zombie 'apocalypse' it's pretty safe for survivors. --ϑϑℜ 12:00, 4 August 2009 (BST)

You're really a terrible troll. Here's a tip, you have to change up your material every so often or people get bored and ignore you. Start thinking up new things to post here so we have something different to respond to. It's really much more fun for both sides. Also, the trolling should have at least some basis on fact to make it semi believable. If it's too far fetched it's easy to ignore. The trolling that gets people excited is stuff that *resembles* reality...you just drool out random nonsense - it's not provocative enough to be good trolling. Keep at it though buddy, with a bit of practice you'll get there! --M4rduK 12:37, 4 August 2009 (BST)

At least we know why you post anonymously. If I was as brain damaged as you I wouldn't want my name associated with these posts either. Were you dropped on your head as a kid or has mum always called you gifted? Tell you what, give us a laugh and explain what it is you do that makes you so good at this game then? You do realise dying doesn't count... --Roorgh 19:13, 4 August 2009 (BST)

Um, waffles? ♥ Moonie ^{Talk Testimonials} 01:06, 5 August 2009 (BST)

Is that with or without maple syrup? --Roorgh 08:23, 5 August 2009 (BST)

*faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart* --Jason 'Fock'n' Stafam 20:03, 4 August 2009 (BST)

Hey guyz iz back

[3] someone wants you to hunt UBCS in Pegton, I think hes upset and wants a personal army. Also I laughed pretty hard at the Calista is Satan. --

Timmah!

Talk

03:09, 10 August 2009 (BST)

AnonSantlerville found in donkey fucking scandal!

Now the dead bunnies are known for their rule abiding behaviour so we can't post the proof here but trust us, it's as good as anything AnonSantlerville has posted here. Poor Jason 'Fock'n' Stafam actually threw up a little inside his mouth. Due to the sick perverted acts committed by this deviant we're going to keep this section free from lies.

and please spare a thought for poor eeyore. Our thoughts go out to him during this traumatic time

Excuse me while I now attend counselling* --Roorgh 20:47, 11 August 2009 (BST)

*A stafam punch to remove the memory

Oi! Oy fock'n frew up moy own pelvis, an' cried alla da wata out'a moy 'andsome body. *PONCH!*

Fock'n look at alla dis wata!

Nob. -- Jason 'Fock'n' Stafam 20:51, 11 August 2009 (BST)

lmao, "Anon"Santlerville raped a donkey to death! You're so silly Jack... --M4rduK 23:34, 11 August 2009 (BST)

Oi!. Silly bugga, Jack. --Jason 'Fock'n' Stafam 23:41, 11 August 2009 (BST)

Update

Since the (not very) revelation yesterday others have come forward telling us how they too were violated by AnonSantlerville.

Evil Monkey said:

I asked him to stop but he just wouldn't. He told me I'd been a naughty zerger and that he had the proof. I tried explaining that I didn't know what zerging was but he wouldn't listen. Can we stop the tape now please?

AnonSantlerville is a beaver

Based on the stirling work of our glorious leader and others we have established the identity of AnonSantlerville! From the picture below you can easily tell that the twat himself is none other than Jack Heins from the Dribbling Beavers. No wonder he didn't want to say who he was!

Now as we know from the Dribbling Beavers, any action performed by a single member clearly represents the entire group (Calista herself bleated on about how we were all zergs based on the acts of a single member). Thus we can only assume that Jack Heins decided to pull this (badly executed) stunt with the approval of the entire beaver group. Thus all are clearly willing to troll via 'anonymous' accounts. Incapable of beating us in a fair fight they resort to these childish antics that even a 5 year old would be ashamed to admit to. Shame on you Jack, not for the trolling but for the piss poor trolling. --Roorgh 21:31, 13 August 2009 (BST)

Ugh, I hate to admit it but I actually gave the beavers more credit than they were due (which is hard to believe actually). This is a lame attempt even by their pitiful standards. Oh well, there goes the self-imposed radio/wiki silence from the Beavers. :P --M4rduK 21:39, 13 August 2009 (BST)

Tell me about it. I mean I knew the beavers were douches but to stoop so low and in such a cowardly fashion... Okay, the cowardly part was a given. --Roorgh 21:49, 13 August 2009 (BST)