UDWiki:Open Discussion/Current Status

Since approximately forever, I've been standardizing location pages. This includes changing a variety of things when they turn up, such as removing (EP) from the minimap, making all headers ===level three===, and, as this discussion is about, removing the "current status" section.

The Style Guide states that it should be there, while the guide template does not. It's hard to tell due to loss of edit history, but I believe that "current status" was conceived before the DangerReport template seen atop most location pages today, and was never removed due to the effort that would be required relative to the reward. I see "current status" to be nothing more than an antiquated distraction and source of confusion for newbs. I thought that the general consensus was that it should be removed; Hence my on-and-off removal of it.

However, my removal of "current status" has recently been questioned, especially since I was doing it with primarily assumed consensus. Thus, I'd like the community to weigh in; should "current status" be removed from location pages, or let sit? --VVV ^RPMBG 21:59, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Having no prior experience in this, here's my suggestion. Seeing as the DR (DangerReport) and CS seem dupes of themselves I tend to agree. However, what about changing CS into a "History" section where all old DR's are placed. Because that is the advantage of Current Status, the fact that it is archived unlike the DR's if I got it right. --Thadeous Oakley Talk 22:11, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

We don't need a cluttered up section with mostly irrelevant danger reports from yesteryear. That's what the page history of the Danger Report is for, if one is hit by the urge to read up on it. -- Spiderzed▋ 22:15, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

That's not actually true, because page histories are wiped from time to time. You can't have a page history as an archive.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 07:57, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Current Status is indeed redundant where there is a danger report. In these cases I'd like to see a news archive for the location if there are any meaningful outdated "current status" entries. This would preserve the history for some of the reasons listed below, while streamlining the page and removing unneeded clutter. I'm thinking about certain users that spammed every location page in existence by copy pasting the in game description or something similarly useless to the current status area. Also, please don't remove EP from suburb maps - it adds useful information to the map at a glance.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 12:41, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Barricade plans already show EPs and are a more appropriate place to show them anyway. Otherwise, however, I agree. Create an archive section for those pages that have useful information. Delete the section if it doesn't have any useful info. —Aichon— 13:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

I agree to 100%. Current status is a relic that has been clearly succeeded by the more versatile and less clutter-happy Danger Reports. We should mercilessly drive them, crush them and hear the lamentations of... uhm, no one mourns for them. Scratch that part. -- Spiderzed▋ 22:15, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

I hate people who just delete stuff off pages. As thad suggests, if theres some old current status comments, change the header to "Ingame history" or the like. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 22:16, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Yep. Linkthewindow  Talk  05:14, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm for the removal of them. They're obsoleted by the DangerReports in a bad way, and don't serve any notable function whatsoever. In the interest of streamlining and ease of use, it makes sense for them to go. 05:31, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

WTF? You take away "EP" from the suburb maps? You bastard! -- LEMON #1 07:04, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm not at all in favour of this, as Danger reports provide an entirely different function. Current Status gives you a backlog of what a building was like however long ago, which danger report can't be relied upon to do.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 07:56, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

My tuppence worth - most of the "Current Status" reports are anything but current, they add nothing to the page or the UDwiki in general and quite frankly look shite. I mean, what use does a copy and paste report saying "You are in a building. There is a generator here. There is some graffiti on the wall." written two or three years ago serve? I certainly wouldn't mind getting rid of the lot of them, but if they are to be kept, the heading must be changed to indicate that these are NOT current but historical (as Ross has already suggested). ~~ Chief Seagull ~~ ^talk 09:28, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Speaking as someone who is massively anal, they're also randomly useful. In the past current status copy and pastes have helped me track down historical, zergers, plot groups movements around the city and look at the overall safeness of many a suburb. Plus, although everyone here knows how to use a danger report, hundreds of wikiers dont. I would be willing to change my stance if Danger report included a link in the template saying (building history) linking to the editing history of the page. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 10:31, 5 January 2011 (UTC)