Talk:Grayside Demons

Apologize

My name is Zero Inn and i attacked members of your group which were waiting to revive. I'm very sorry I wasn't paying attention and didn't read that it was a revive point. I also left a short aplogy on the Enemies List. Once again i'm very sorry and i hope that my mistake won't cause problems between us.

Good deal, I'll make sure they read your apology. --Kiablade ^{the Demons| GD Forums} 09:45, 7 August 2007 (BST)

Hehe

Now Now, that wasn't very nice, killing me and biz like that. I mean, all we asked you to do was to not spray over our tags. Which, in fact you did, I mean Oldies has always been our hospital. And fact of the matter is, that EG is known STARS territory, it has been for a year now, all major groups and allies, know this. Now, we don't exactly have enemies, our enemies are once close friends, who we are now on good terms with. Your little group declaring "war" on us was a stupid move. Come on now, a group just formed doesn't declare war on a large group. We are going to ask you once, lay down arms and call off your "war" statement, or warfare will have to ensue. Thank You,

- Chris Hollis

On another note, stop this at once. I am one of the close friends and formerly an enemy and member of STARS. I know how they work and how they plan and they do so very well. They have people who will be on you in a week and you and all of your 8 members (three of which are zergs) are going to be crushed.You are getting in way over your heads. Trust me.

--Mayor Fitting 02:19, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

They'll soon be joining the walking undead like the merry of us (me and half the game) and waging war aginst the STARS harmanz in a unbeatable war.--Darkmagic 02:55, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Well now I have a legit reason to PK hehe. Blackzilla1

Second Thoughts

First and foremost, i will say this. I admire your spunk. Challenging a bigger group to a war is commendable. Secondly i will say this, declaring war so quickly is a foolish move. But the real reason i came here was to stop this pointless conflict. My words above were..selective because of my anger of being PKed by a survivor group and being "sentenced" to death. Now, i am willing to put all of this behind us, i dont want a war, it takes up time and makes the game not fun to play. I have been through many wars, some of which fun, and some of which i would rather not have been in, if this war escalates, it would have certianly been the single most pointless one sided war i have ever been in. The STARS invite survivors to come in EG and help the real cause of the game, to kill the zombies, not have political arguments. I believe this war started over us asking for our tags not to be written over, which is a fair request, you may or may not be the ones who have been doing it lately, but many groups have been spraying diffrent things over our tags, and it is very very annoying, they are there because we put them there. Now onto us "owning" EG. We do not "own" it, that would be unfair. But we are the largest and most influential group in the suburb, and have protected it since last year. All major groups we have contact with observe it as our terf, our homeland. Excuse us please for being a little hostile about our home. We did not wish to be "snippy" in our meeting. I went over to the Grayside Demons HQ on Xmas to discuss how the new group in EG is doing, and i wanted to make a formal alliance. Unfortunately someone wrote over your HQ graffiti and caused mine and joe biz's PKing. (i assure you finding who wrote that is a priority of mine) So in other words, please do not declare war on us, we haven't had a war since the PH war last spring, that was a war that would make anyone sick of anything. We dont exactly see this as grounds for a deceleration of war, but you PKing me is certainly enough to start a war. I would be willing to put everything behind if you mind your business in NW EG, perhaps we can come to an agreement over our Wiki or forum. Again, i apologize for the harsh words above, it was the heat of the moment. Please take time to think your decisions over, we dont want to have a pointless war, but we have people alerted of the situation. Keep EG a safe area, not a bloodbath city.

- Chris Hollis

just slaughter them likes the fools they are, the undeadn eed more people, there isn't as much since we lost west, northwest, central and south malton after the bash left em..--Darkmagic 15:04, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

watch what you say darkmagic

- Aurelio F. Elliott

thats funny, i have not a clue who this dark magic guy is, i like him. =P too bad you guys didn't answer me, the STARS have officially decided to accept you war deceleration, you guys really have no idea what you have gotten your selves into.

- Chris Hollis

I am powerhouse18 of the Feral Dead

Nice to meet you powerhouse18, you are quite the zombie lover eh?.

In any case, how is life constantly being bombarded by STARS members? Hm Demons? Is it nice? Is it what you wanted? A fake group trying to get us to forge a fake war.

- Chris Hollis

no, i am a zombie, i just happend to get revived and i'm hiding in the north.--Darkmagic 18:33, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Demons!

Deeeemoooonnsss!! There isn't enough churches in EG to chase them away! I welcome this with open arms to the EG area as it adds some spice to an otherwise quiet burb. --Virus002 03:59, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

To Crush

Don't be mistaken by the title of this subject. I am here in an attempt to crush this war between us (Special Tactics And Rescue Squad) and you (Grayside Demons). The war in my view is pointless. Some of us may have overwritten your tags, I don't see the big deal. Infact to my view its a good thing, you see this gives you the ability to re write it which if you have tagging could infact give you some XP, which is good.

Even if you don't get XP its some tiny....triffle, there wouldn't be a need to go to war. Send a diplomatic message to us and we could have taken care of the situation, but to my knowledge you sent no message you gave no warning. I pray that you realize war wo't get youthe answer you want in this situation, or in most situations. In fact this war could cause more problems then seen. It could cause a sign of weakness and zombies to stage an attack on grayside while attention of those ment to protect it are divided.

We are teh Special Tactics and Rescue Squad, our top priority is saving lives, this will include yours, which is why I am trying toget you to end this, it will save many lives, and many precious syringes. Please reconsider your situation. I will fullfill my duties of protecting survivors and following orders, even if they are to wipe you from grayside.

Please heed this message and declare peace, I am sure chris will do what he can to make sure your tags are protected.

In rebuttal:

It wasn't particularly nice to act like you owned the place. There was no one around the hospital when the 'Demons' first moved into the area, and there only became an issue when our marks, stating where our HQ, entrance, and revive point, were all obliterated. If there had been discussion concerning the spray paint, instead of instant action, then perhaps the war could have been avoided, after all, I myself have been turned into a zombie and back again more times in the last week than I have in the past year before that. However, East Grayside does -not- belong to STARS, and the fact that the first I, at least, knew about that group was when they turned up and sprayed over the Demon's marks, only goes to prove that there was no activity around the station and hospital for some weeks. I am angry about the rumours going around, but that is no reason to mindlessly let my own people be slaughtered. Consider the revive point closed until further notice, in other words.

--Kiablade 20:56, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

We asked for you to not spray paint over ours and one of your !@#$heag members attacked Chris Hollis and Joe Biz so dont try putting in this on us we also tried to get you to stop and next time when you decide tomove into a suburb check the wiki for people who call it home--Serge 03:27, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Important logs

My user talk page contains viable information for everyone involved in the conflict please make sure you go and read it http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User_talk:Jinjinkas

Also I have been killed several times by members of STARS for just being a friend of the Greyside Demons, that kind of things has to stop immediately along with all killing of members of either side. This all this started over tags, oh fucking well, anyone can change them. We all should grow the fuck up, stop killing each other, coexist and get back to killing rotters or reviving the temporarily dead. /end rant --Jinjinkas 22:28, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the logs, I missed some things that were either mentioned to me in passing, or didn't get mentioned at all. --Kiablade 01:13, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry know I shouldn't be talking here but the Demons page did say it called upon all enemies of S.T.A.R.S to join them in the fight against us and you were walking around with you being a friend in your profile some of the more trigger happy members in the group must have thought you fair game.--Meinstorm 13:09, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I only noticed all the additions to both the main page and this page when I started replying, otherwise this may have been averted quicker. --Kiablade 15:23, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Main Article

Any chance we can keep the fighting talk out of the main article? --Kiablade 16:54, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

I changed that section to a more politicaly correct statement but it seems iamnotamelon may be one of the important factors due to his declaration of war. --Jinjinkas 22:46, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Editted further for some more bulk, and to make the Demons sound more innocent, after all, we're not -all- evil demonic creatures you know! :D Kept the political correctness however, or most of it. --Kiablade 23:03, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Peace Talks

My group, although without a wiki, more then 4 members, and a forum would like to declare peace with your group. You know us as the Gaywood fags, and we will cease attacking your members and help revive you to get you on your feet if needed. We are a group of 4 guys who jusdt play for fun and are always in for helping STARS, so thats why we attacked in the first place. Here are our demands:

1 Ceasefire

We will stop all attacks and we demand you do the same.

2 Stop hostilities with STARS

We ask you stop attacking them, we will see if they agree to this ceasefire as well.

3 Cake

We want a chocolate bun cake with 2 bottles of real maple syrup. None of that fake synthetic shit.

4 KFC

A bucket of KFC popcorn chicken. It must be extra crispy, not the "classic", the classic is crap. Also, we demand hot sauce with it.

5 A Good Porno

One of our members wants a porno that has a sword fight scene in it. That and a midget amputee porno on a trampoline. Don't worry, this is the only bizarre demand.

6 Beer

That is just self explanatory. We demand 24 keg cans of Heineken, and 24 bottles of Harp.

7 Hard Liquor

We want Jack Daniel's whiskey, Bourbon whiskey and some Meskel Tequila. Also, throw in some Jager while you're out.

8 A good Breakfast

Tea, coffee, scones, and cinnamon raisin bagels. Please include spreads, such as jam, peanut butter and cream cheese and things to fix our coffee and tea(1% milk, sugar, half & half)

Well, that about covers it. I will show this to STARS to see if they accept. My group will also provide revives to you to help you get back on your feet. Hope we can work something out, --Mayor Fitting 03:52, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

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1: I personally haven't attacked a member of your squad, or STARS yet. In fact, I have been protecting people stuck outside around the GD revive point from zombies, whilst as one. You'll have to talk to the other members, as currently, I cannot.

2: I never started hostilities with STARS.

3: If I cook, you'll get food poisoning.

4: No, I'm vegetarian.

5: It will involve iamnotamelon, I hope you are prepared for that.

6: As Heineken has the best brewery in Amsterdam that I've ever been to, you may have that, although as I have not seen Harp, that I cannot help with.

7: I'm sure someone can find whiskey somewhere. We seem to find enough chocolate, or did in the past.

8: Breakfast doesn't go well with beer or whiskey. Pick one or the other.

As for getting back on our feet, we don't need help. We just need STARS to stop whacking everyone they see for more than 6 hours so we can get out of Grayside and bugger off our of your hair. --Kiablade 04:05, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

alright, thats cool. We will stop attacking you and that list was just for fun anyway. I will see if STARS can hold back and stop whacking you though. One of your members killed me though...forget who. But I know I killed him :/. Anyway, were done killing you and I will see if STARS is done.--Mayor Fitting 04:12, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

well fuck, I don,t want that porno if that melon guy is in it. as for the Jager, we need red bull with that please. Agent47 04:18, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Even if we come to no formal agreement, were done shooting at you. Now I'm gonna go talk to STARS. Ignore 47...hes drunk >.> --Mayor Fitting 07:24, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

correction, I was drunk. Now about that Jager and red bull.......... Agent47

Glad to hear about the finished shooting at me. May I extend that to any other member of the Demons that hasn't been taking potshots at your group? Soon as I'm back into life, I'll at least be able to send out the message to avoid shooting your lot. --Kiablade 18:09, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I take responsibility for my action of hunting down joe biz but that was done and is over with, I belive we all have come to a point where we just want to get this sorted out and back to work so a cease fire would be in order now, the only problem I see is the other elements of our groups not able to join this dusscusion and have not been able to follow this turn of events --Jinjinkas 22:51, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I've currently got Koryo with me. He's zombiefied, but soon as I can, I'll get him revived, and keep him safe. I'll contact the rest of you as soon as possible. --Kiablade 00:48, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

We Are Willing To Stop If You Are

Yes, we are ready to stop this pointless war. I hope you have learned your lesson. If You dont attack us, we wont attack you. Kiablade, if we could talk this over and draw up a treaty?, maybe give the Demons a new HQ "away" from where we run business so our members cross each others paths less often? In any case, We are willing to stop. We seemed to have done enough pointless killing for now.

Please Contact Me Over the Wiki. Thank You.

- Chris Hollis

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I would like to make the point that I have not attacked you at all, yet have been killed by your troops multiple times. I somehow doubt that is particularly fair, is it not?

As it currently stands, the Demons are heading out of East Grayside, and as always, require the help of no one. I am personally scouting out other suburbs for a suitable HQ, and as I have said before, we shall be out of your hair as soon as possible, you are only prolonging your own agony by keeping the Demons as zombies.

--Kiablade 22:24, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

...You 'seem' top be done with all this pointless killing?! You 'SEEM' to be DONE with all this KILLING?!!? Then call off your troops Hollis. I am furious, and for good reason.

Since your last turn:

   * blackzilla2 said "Hello Sir" (54 minutes ago)
   * joe biz attacked you for 10 damage. (29 minutes ago) ...and again. ...and again. (28 minutes ago)

You are dead.

I think I am well within my rights to be angry. You talk of peace, and an end to the killing, but you cannot seem to control your people all that well. So either you lie, and you wish to continue the slaughter, or, well, I am not entirely sure what to think! --Kiablade 23:32, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

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Oh...hey, look. This appears to be your lot too!

Since your last turn:

   * Your phone beeped. (1 hour and 40 minutes ago)
   * Spry Monkey attacked you for 1 damage. (1 hour and 37 minutes ago) (Scent lost.)
   * Tito Pulo said "Good bye grayside demons" (1 hour and 15 minutes ago)
   * Tito Pulo killed Pokoa. (1 hour and 15 minutes ago)
   * Tito Pulo attacked you for 10 damage. (1 hour and 14 minutes ago) (Scent lost.) ...and again. ...and again. ...and again. ...and again.
   * Tito Pulo attacked you for 2 damage. (1 hour and 14 minutes ago) (Scent lost.) ...and again. ...and again. ...and again. ...and again.
   * You took a Headshot from Tito Pulo the Zombie Hunter! You will need to spend an extra 5AP to stand up. (1 hour and 14 minutes ago)
   * A flare was fired 11 blocks to the west and 4 blocks to the south. (9 minutes ago)

You are dead.

Especially when Tito Pulo (http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=407961) has

"A middle aged man in a used and patched miliraty uniform, the tag in his shoulder identifies him as a member of S.T.A.R.S."

in his description. I am sure Spry Monkey is just a jerk, but Tito Pulo appears to belong to yours, and made a direct attack on the 'grayside demons'. I've actually been attacked -more- since you offered this 'peace', funny how things work...isn't it. --Kiablade 02:07, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

While I understand you anger, you must understand, getting the word out to 30 or so members is much much harder than getting it to the 7-8 of yours. =/. People in our group do not regularly check the forum, which makes it even harder than it once was. So while i apologize for the harshness towards you after this peace, i must defend myself in the fact that things take a while to trickle down, some of the members just 3-4 days ago found out about the war. Capt. (soon to be srgt.) melayne said this to the troops: If you are/have been attacked after Monday, you are authorized to only go after the person who killed you. which is a rock solid policy until you say that you have left the grayside area, then we can both be assured that you and i (and our teams) should be safe.

- Chris Hollis

I currently have one member, and a friend of the groups with me outside the boundry of East Grayside (where I was when I was attacked...twice...). I have no idea where everyone else is, and I am sure you can understand the difficulty of locating and communicating with even 7-8 members when two thirds are zombies along with yourself. --Kiablade 11:05, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I've moved back into Grayside to locate some of my comraids, and get them to quit sitting at the Demons old revive point, and generally move things along. Sooner we're out of Grayside, the better, after all. And unfortunately, this is the best method currently at my disposal, for getting members out. --Kiablade 11:12, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Chris...AGAIN? Its been a long while since you suggested a ceasefire, AND the Demons moved out of STARS territory, yet I fall asleep, and soon enough:

1. Sebastian Nox said "Grayside Demons are a bunch of PKers and must die" (yesterday)
2. Sebastian Nox killed Jinjinkas. (yesterday)
3. blackzilla2 said "fuck!" (yesterday)
4. blackzilla2 said "STARS you fucked up again" (yesterday) ...and again.
5. Casio Querea attacked you for 5 damage. (yesterday) ...and again. ...and again. ...and again. ...and again.
6. Casio Querea attacked you for 10 damage. (yesterday) ...and again. ...and again.
7. Casio Querea attacked you for 5 damage. (yesterday)
8. You heard a loud and distant groaning 4 blocks to the east and 6 blocks to the south. (yesterday) ...and again. ...and again. (23 hours and 26 minutes ago) ...and again. (23 hours and 22 minutes ago) ...and again. (22 hours and 56 minutes ago) ...and again. (21 hours and 1 minute ago)

This is getting stupid now. I understand you need a little time and effort to organise your troops, but seriously, how the hell are we supposed to get off your turf if, when a group is waiting, and at the time I stopped logging on, Jinjinkas, Pokoa and Blackzilla were around, waiting for the arrival of our last two errant members, Koryo and Sjors Naus (as well as attempting to find Iamnotamelon, if only to get him to quit whatever he's up to), and your dear ones, come storming in, and I have to start all over again. You are making it harder upon everyone. Your group appears to think I am to blame for every tiny thing my members appear to do, so seriously, I can easily land this on your head, but for now, I am -trying- damn hard to be reasonable. --Kiablade 01:07, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Goddamnit I talked to them too. I'll PM them sorry.--Meinstorm 19:00, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I think PK-ing would be more appropriate to be perfectly honest, after all, they did directly disobey an order in an attempt to restart a war. --Kiablade 19:31, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Look at your forum I've just told you that I've threatened (can't spell :S) them with being kicked out.--Meinstorm 17:53, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I saw that after my post. I'm glad to see it got sorted. And your spelling was right (or so I believe). --Kiablade 18:32, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Still waiting for Chris to read that thing from your forum. That's the problem with different time zones.--Meinstorm 13:58, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

what thing am i supposed to read? -Chris Hollis

ah....sorry but m suck it up

sorry i killed you guys after the peace talks was not aware that a solution had been arranged. And as far as killing you kiablade well you were part of a GROUP that declared war that means you as a GROUP are going down. Fair?? Hell F***ing yes its fair! And jinkia…what ever your name is, I had a chance to kill you when I first attacked the demons but I left you alone then you kill me while I sleep so you didn’t just get killed cause you are a "fried of the demons" you got killed because you made a hostile act so you lose. May I suggest next time some one tells you hey this is our turf stop tagging it, you make sure none of your more retarded (imnotazombie...*cough cough*) members declare war, make sure if war is declared it is agreed upon by your whole group, and make sure it isn’t declared upon a group that can mop the floor with you!!! THE SHOTGUN HATH SPOKEN!!!!!

Biz, i know that is you.... but please, play nice nice. We dont want another screaming and shouting war eh?

-Chris Hollis

yes screaming and shouting is not going to help at all :D Blackzilla2 07:21, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh how very mature. --Kiablade 16:14, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Hmm Biz got at the sugar again.--Mein 20:49, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

yeah i likey the sugar. but you have to admit i have a valid point. Joe biz THE SHOTGUN HATH SPOKEN!!!

I,m about to make a valid point. Shotguns don,t speak. Blackzilla2

Where you drunk when you wrote this Biz?--Mein 14:58, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Quite possible that he was. Appears that he usually is, and uses such as a justification for causing death without him receiving due consequences. --Kiablade 13:41, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Also this most recent PK of my teammates (by Nox and Casio,I got photo proof) was not taken without dire consequence. Nox and Casio were part of the term "a eye for a eye" and lost their lives for killing my friends. Blackzilla2 07:16, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

-_-

hmmm....it seems we both have some people we need to stand down. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y85/Metsfan007mp/Dumb.jpg Thats not very smart of him eh? Taunting me, but your lucky i saw this the day after my birthday and im in a good enough mood, ill let his select words pass. Just, i would offer some advice, keep him in check, as you can see, we are bigger and stronger than you are. Fighting a petty war is not the thing we like to do, we like to kill the zeds, not the people. But i cant help but think how my members maybe doing the same thing...please tell me if they say such mean things to you, they will be dealt with. By the way, a statement was just issued via radio that if a demon is killed, they will be under punishment of the STARS. So, thats all i have to say, good day =).

-Chris Hollis

I have lost track of certain members of the Demons, that one and Melon included. There are two others that have yet to reappear, Koryo and Pokoa, but I'm in relative communication with Koryo. I know Iamnotamelon has walked away from the group (which was mentioned by him on the main page). As for your recent problems, I'd rather have had petty words a few times than death four times after a ceasefire is called. Least it was kept to words, not actions. You have a good day too, and if you see any remaining Demons, tell them to get into Wray Heights, I'll be able to gather them up there. --Kiablade 15:22, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

id like to add something, an apology. i had absoloutly no idea what i was doing before as i had JUST started the game, and stumbled on the Grayside Deamons HQ in EG, i have learned a lot from them. now i had absolutely no idea that there was even another clan in the area, as i never left the base, the only time i left the base was for Syringes (still close) and to rev. i did destroy the power generator in the factory, but that was because i believed that deamons were putting them up, i went in there and presumed that people were ignoreing Kiablades instructions, so i destroyed it, and i must apologies to STARS as it was there genorator. however members of STARS then took it upon themselfs to kill me. i sent the letter to the group shown in Jinkas log above shouting at the members, this should have shown i had no hostile intention, i was trying to keep the base secure and relatively unseen by zombies. but instead i was attacked and killed constantly, i wouldn't have minded it if was just the once, but instead i have every member of STARS seem to kill me on the REV point just because i made a mistake, even you Chris killed me 3 times. so thats it, im sorry, but for future reference please check the start date of members, to see if they are noobs trying to comprehend the game or not. thank you - koryo

all is fair in love and war. i dont mean to be harsh, but that is the truth, whether or not YOU wanted the war, your group members killed me and a member. Killing Biz is at least understandable, he sprayed over your tag (we think) but killing me because i "condoned" it. Killing a commander is an immediate sentence for war, even then we decided to at least give you a chance to do something to make us stop, but then the "pest control squad" and "squashing STARS since Xmas 06" drove us over the edge. And killing at a revive point was tactics my friend. We had you added in our contacts list so in nice yellow letters your name would come up when ever we saw you. "im sorry, but for future reference please check the start date of members, to see if they are noobs trying to comprehend the game or not" we saw what lvl you guys were, and how small the group was from the very start. But being a noob does not give your group a pass on killing a leader for a petty reason.

But, times have changed, i think we are at least being civil on your boards and working out some sort of agreement on what to do. 

-Chris Hollis

Oh, ok, so just because one of our members was a jerk (no offence to anyone intended) you decided it would be ok to punish me for the actions of another member, i had no idea what was going on, you were just being bullies in my eyes, whenever i asked what was going on, and why i was being killed, i had no reply, just brutal weapons and attacks, sounds fair to me (note the dripping sarcasm). Next time tell the person why your mass-zombiefying them. - Koryo (edited the excellent spelling for you ;) : --Kiablade 16:47, 15 January 2007 (UTC) )

When someone in a group declares war on someone, especially after seeing a whole wiki page declaring us evil sadistic people, is it not fair for me to think this is reason enough to fight back?. (also im REALLY trying not to be a pain or mean in any way, just stating my opinion.) Also, i do feel bad for the constant bombardment your group sulfured, a group who is 3x larger than yours constantly hunting you down must have been a drag. The only reason we declared war is because from what we could gather, your group was ready to fight, i mean the tags: "squashing stars since xmas 06" and the whole damn wiki saying they have made a "pest control squad", what was one to think? We even asked you to stop the hostility (see i think it is my...first post here..) where i asked you to lay down arms, when we got no answer, we decided to accept your deceleration and we fought, and fought hard. We've been through wars, we knew what we were doing. We had plans on how to severely hurt your group, tactics and allies came in handy also. All of this comes from long, hard wars that i do not really want to remember. Oh, i tried to avoid this, but when you said "Next time tell the person why your mass-zombiefying them" i couldnt help but scream "because we were in a war" but i thought i should leave it out, im trying to be nice, because i do have some remorse for your group, we hurt you when we could have avoided it, but still in my eyes, we did what we needed to. Im glad we are at least on speaking terms.

-Chris Hollis

Well, I didn't get round to checking the wiki for a long while, so missed all your posts, and the main page (edited it as soon as I spotted it).

As for the tags, no idea who posted them. Wasn't me, and I doubt it was Koryo, Sjors or Jin. Never know, could have been our mutual friend, the one that pasted over -our- tags with almost the same line except exchanging 'stars' for 'demons'.

And speaking terms, well, I'm on speaking terms with two of your group. No idea about the rest of the Demons, can't really speak for them. --Kiablade 18:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey no fighting please I've worked for peace and I'm not having it become a war again--Meinstorm 18:52, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Just telling it how it was for me my friend. --Kiablade 18:56, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

the fact is that i would have handed myself in as a prisoner of war, rather than die..... "because we are at war" would have been enough, i would have said "what our groups are at war? when did this happen?" and you say your story, i would have said "im sorry, i have no part in anything, im just a reviver, i revive anyone in pain, i dont hunt or kill other players, and i hope you can share that same respect to me, now if you will excuse me im sure there are many GD's and STARS alike who need revives" and i would have left, if you killed me after that or held me hostage then that would have been fine, but not knowing why was tourcher. - koryo

Malton Death Dealers

Hello Kia, I am blackzilla1 of the Malton Death Dealers and I am here to request a alliance with your group. -- Blackzilla1 05:55, 14 June 2007 (BST)

Good afternoon. We're discussing this amongst ourselves, and I'll let you know when a decision has been made. Thank you for the offer. --Kiablade 14:52, 14 June 2007 (BST)

From S.T.A.R.S.

Temporarily stepping out of character - about the STARS/Demons business, it appears that trolls (the computer term, of course) are impersonating as members of the Demons and killing us, too. Apparently, from the page, they're also impersonating S.T.A.R.S. and shooting at your members.

Be advised - there's something screwy with the S.T.A.R.S. forums and a representative couldn't get on the forums (so I've been told), and as far as I (or at least my alt) know, the PKers are just asses trying to spark crap up. If you want, I can PM the current STARS leaders and try and work out something, if that has not been done already.

And what is that business with STARS? I don't think the group has done anything wrong... Oh. Okay. I don't speak for Joe Biz, and he's pretty much the forum tough guy. I'm not going to dig up something petty over a turf war from a while back, since my alt didn't join STARS until then. Mmmkay? Christopher Vickers 17:47, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I have no idea who you are, or what you're on about. If you are talking about the killing of STARS members by idiotic pkers, the Demons have absolutely nothing to do with it. Even so, I don't see what it has to do with you, or why you are bringing it up. --Kiablade ^{the Demons| GD Forums} 20:18, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay, ma'am. The murderers are claiming to be you guys, capiche? And whoever is firing at you are claiming to be us, and they're not. And apparently no leaders from S.T.A.R.S. have not contacted you, so I'm bringing it up. Glenstone 03:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I think this issue is important to, and involves, EVERYONE in the W/E Grayside area. It is another example of the large PKer faction who have taken up residence in the hood trying to stir up more shit. They got called out trying to frame Uncle Zeddie/Radio Survivor ... and probably no one is impressed by the absolute lack of bravery, cunning or creativity in their Kill Survivor-of-the-week mini-projects (except themselves, of course... murderers are oh so very easily impressed by themselves, it seems... guess cuz generally no else is...) So now they are going to hide behind other people's group names and some ancient history of tension to cause chaos.... I'm sure they will try to drag the WGW into something similar at some point. Don't fall for it, kill all the murderers and anyone who revives them, I say... :) --WanYao 03:55, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

They haven't fired on us. We KNOW what they are doing. STARS needs to set up some form of communication...seriously, it hasn't improved since this time last year when it took weeks for people to get the message out over not killing Demons. But anyway, I've spoken to Greg, Meinstorm and the Cop, all in horrendous depth. I know, we know, we've all seen the wikipage where the ebil villians have been plotting this online. We are not affected in any way...sure, they are killing STARS members, which is always a good thing, but they aren't connected to us (otherwise, trust me, you'd be able to hear the laughter and celebration from all the way over on your high horse in East Grayside). We'll only get involved if STARS members attack us first. We're smart enough not to believe that whoever is who they claim to be necessarily! --Kiablade ^{the Demons| GD Forums} 08:49, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

The Great Suburb Group Massacre

	Group Active? Request.
	In order to maintain the wiki as an up to date source of information groups are occasionally removed from the Suburb pages when they are no longer active. Is this group still active? If so simply confirm here by writing something below. If not it will be removed from suburb pages in 14 days.

Currently the suburb in question is West Grayside but one response to this query will be all that is needed to protect your group link on all suburb pages. I know this is a random request but its for all groups regardless of size. Thank you. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:12, 18 July 2008 (BST)

Yeah, we're active. --Midianian^{|T|T:S|C:RCS|} 21:46, 20 July 2008 (BST)

thanks. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 12:03, 4 August 2008 (BST)

Malton Uprising

The Grayside Demons are cordially invited to the Malton Uprising against the DEM. --Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||01:01, 17 August 2008 (BST)

From the South Malton Watch

It says somewhere on our group page that we previously negotiated an alliance before, but I'm not sure if that was under our old leader Kaptain Fitting or not. Well, I'm just here to say that we're all facing a bit of tough times with the hordes and all and I figure what the entire suburb of West Grayside has to do is open communications and actually work together, since we're not doing so bad we actually have a good chance of driving these guys back together. Anyways, I'm considering the best course of action is that we all start using each others talk pages to coordinate in the defense of West Grayside.

From the South Malton Watch, Apocalyptic doom 20:42, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

The Great Suburb Group Massacre 2009

	Group Confirmed.
	This group was confirmed active. Thank you for your reply.

Thanks.--ScouterTX 22:17, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

We are still active. :) --Sgt Cain 21:32, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!--Lois ^{talk 10MFH} 22:16, 2 March 2009 (UTC)