Suggestion:20091111 Meatshielding Skills

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20091111 Meatshielding Skills

Explodey 19:56, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Suggestion type
Mechanic

Suggestion scope
All buildings, low-level characters

Suggestion description
Description: To prevent meatshielding by zerglings:

  • Standing survivors no longer prevent ransacking unless they have the Construction skill.
  • Similarly, standing zombies no longer interfere with barricading or ruin repair unless they have Memories of Life

Since neither of these is a starting skill, new level-1 characters are no use as meatshields.

However both skills are usually purchased early and the vast majority of characters have them, so "genuine" characters won't be badly affected.

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Keep Votes

  1. Author keep - Discourages zerging. --Explodey 19:57, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
  2. Keep - Anything that does little to legit players, but really hampers zerging properties is fine by me. --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 21:30, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
  3. Keep - Fuck you, cade-blocking. What was this about stopping zergs? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 21:43, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
  4. Keep - Only hurts people who should be hurt. -- AORDMOPRI ! T - 21:58 11 November 2009 (BST)
  5. Keep - Fuck meatshields and fuck interference; I always thought those two abilities were too game-changing to be given away for free. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 22:26, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
    keep--Winman1 23:56, 11 November 2009 (UTC) - Justify your vote -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 15:44, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
  6. Keep - For reasons I said in the discussion. Also, while at a first glance it may appear to be a zombie nerf, in actuality, they will get more benefit out of it since they are able to see which humans can meatshield, while humans can't easily do the same with zombies during a breach. It buffs both sides, but buffs zombies just a hair more, contrary, in my opinion, to the statements of others. —Aichon— 00:27, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Kill Votes

  1. Kill - Discourages zerging, but Memories is a relatively late zombie addition (optimal setup is Lurch, Grab, combat skills, then maybe Memories). As such this isn't really the best way that this idea could be conveyed. I'd still suggest a level cap, not a skill, or perhaps changing the skills to something more common for new characters. Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 20:06, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
    Re Feel free to suggest other skills on the discussion page --Explodey 20:27, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
  2. Kill I don't like it.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:26, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
  3. Kill - No offense, but fuck this suggestion unless a level cap is used instead of specific skills. Construction vs. MoL is not balanced at all.-- | T | BALLS! | 22:31 11 November 2009(BST)
  4. Kill As iscariot but in a "maybe you could find a way to balance it better" kind of way. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:40, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
  5. Kill - Interesting idea. Change Memories of Life to Lurching Gait and I suspect you'll get a lot more Keep votes, including mine. --Paddy DignamIS DEAD 23:07, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Spam/Dupe Votes

  1. Spam - At a casual glance this will appear to be fine, discourage cheats to improve the game, on an actual examination its nothing but a pure zombie nerf due to the way the game is and the character progression of survivors over zombies. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 21:50, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
  2. Spam - As izzy. --Papa Johnny 17:49, 12 November 2009 (UTC)



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  1. Kill - This is a terrible idea, but you can totally fix it up. --NegativeGal 06:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
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  1. Spam - Kung Fu CB Mama on Wheels is an inappropriate Survivor Class. --NoFunAtAll 09:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
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