Ladders
MikeLemmer 00:13, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Suggestion type
New Item
Suggestion scope
Survivors
Suggestion description
The extension ladder lets a survivor enter a heavily barricaded, non-ruined building once.
- Encumbrance: 40%
- Found at:
- When a survivor with a ladder is outside a heavily-barricaded building he can't enter on foot, the option "Enter the Building by Ladder" appears. Using this costs 1 AP and consumes a ladder.
- Using this option on an intact building lets the survivor enter the building despite the barricade level: "You carefully extend the ladder and climb up it into a window. It's too unwieldy to pull up, so you push it over to join the barricades below."
- Using this option on a ruined building doesn't let the survivor enter it. Instead, he takes damage as if he tried Free Running into it: "You set up the ladder and begin climbing, but the ruined wall it's propped on gives way. You crash to the ground; the ladder is ruined."
- Ladders can be used as an improvised melee weapon (10% base hit, 2 damage).
Predicted Game Changes: Provides an alternative to Free Running in exchange for heavy encumbrance & searching for each use. Will primarily help survivors without Free Running, although veteran survivors may want one for emergencies. Can aid pro-PK & anti-PK actions by providing access to heavily-barricaded zones. Will probably aid prepared, irate revived zombies (who don't need much inventory & may not have Free Running).
Suggestion discussed here.
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- Keep - Author's keep vote. --MikeLemmer 00:13, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
- Keep - Given the changes as per the discussion, I can get behind this.
00:54, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
- Keep – Interesting idea; I can foresee interesting tactics. I'm all about maintaining interest. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 01:02, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
- Keep - As Rev. I look forward to seeing death cultists and PKers surprising people with these. Heeheehee. --Maverick Talk - OBR
404 01:44, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
- Keep - refreshing to see something original, fun, fairly balanced. -- 03:43, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
- Keep - I think it is a great idea. --Surfraptor 18:47, 6th February 2010 (EST)
- Keeeep - I need one of these for when I hunt my buddies :D. I mean you, LoBos. Cookies and Cream 12:32, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Kill Votes
- Kill - I love everything about it, and you had me all the way up until factory searches. I just think factories are too important to the survivor side to have their search rates diluted.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 03:20, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Spam/Dupe Votes
- Spam - Considering you never bothered to counter the several arguments I made on Talk:Suggestions, I'll just repost them here: Let me get this right, you want an item that negates the no entry clause on HB or higher cades? You want this to help newbies get into malls? This item is unneeded, newbies can walk up to the mall and click enter to get in.... unless of course some idiot's caded the entire mall up. Who's fault is that? That's right, it's the fault of the survivors. You don't get a new item to bypass the downsides in your own fucking policies. Why should there be a possibility of a street treat escaping from a feral due to an item you got put into the game because the entire pro-survivor side are stupid? Overcading is a valid tactic because none of you have barricade plans with enough entry points. Want to stop getting locked out? Talk to each other and create and maintain more entry points. Don't come here and expect to get a free pass for your own idiocy. It's your side of the game, the onus is on you to let the newbies into the mall, not for us to change the game because you can't be bothered. Why the fuck don't you make sure that malls in green suburbs are lowered to VSB to let newbies in? Why should Kevan rush to cover you lot again? Barricades work on a trade, more protection from an attack for no entry. Want entry points? Have less protection. This is the fundamental principle of barricades that is the basis of all zombie/survivor conflict. Do not negate them just because you don't like the inherent and deliberate downside. --
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