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This page is for the community review of new guides. This is so the [[Guides]] page does not get filled up with nonsensical guides (like it was at one point,) and that their is a minimum standard of quality on the [[Guides]] page. Guides which pass this review have a template added to the page ({{[[Template:GuideReviewed|GuideReviewed]]}}). Guides which do not pass a community review will not be added to the [[Guides]] page, but may still carry [[[[:Category:Guides]]]]. This is so that guides that are deemed good and worthy by the community are easily findable by newer players, while less accurate guides can still be found, but aren't presented as prominently.  
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This page is for the community review of new guides. This is so the [[Guides]] page does not get filled up with nonsensical guides (like it was at one point,) and that there is a minimum standard of quality on the [[Guides]] page. Guides which pass this review have a template added to the page ({{[[Template:GuideReviewed|GuideReviewed]]}}) and featured guides will have {{[[Template:FeaturedGuide|FeaturedGuide]]}} added to the page. Guides which do not pass a community review will not be added to the [[Guides]] page, but may still carry [[[[:Category:Guides]]]]. This is so that guides that are deemed good and worthy by the community are easily findable by newer players, while less accurate guides can still be found, but aren't presented as prominently.  


Guides are reviewed through a voting process. There are three eligible votes:
Guides are reviewed through a voting process. There are three eligible votes:
*'''Support''' - to indicate support for the guide's inclusion on the page
*'''Support''' - to indicate support for the guide's inclusion on the page
*'''Abstain''' - to not formally vote, but still offer input on the discussion
*'''Abstain''' - to not formally vote, but still offer input on the discussion
*'''Against''' - to indicate disapproval for the guide's incusion on the page  
*'''Against''' - to indicate disapproval for the guide's inclusion on the page  


After one week, the votes will be tallied.  
After two weeks, the votes will be tallied.  
*A guide which has more the 75% '''Support''' will be placed at a "Featured Guides" section at the top of the guides page
*A guide which has more than 75% '''Support''' will be placed at a "Featured Guides" section at the top of the guides page
*A guide which has more then 50% '''Support''' will be placed on the page, in the appropriate section (survivor, zombie, or player killer.)
*A guide which has more than 50% '''Support''' will be placed on the page, in the appropriate section (survivor, zombie, or player killer.)
*A guide which has less then 50% '''Support''' will not be placed on the page
*A guide which has less than or equal to 50% '''Support''' will not be placed on the page
*Guides which don't attract any votes will not be placed on the page
*Guides which don't attract any votes will not be placed on the page


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#'''Accuracy''' - ''The guide must be accurate''
#'''Accuracy''' - ''The guide must be accurate''
#'''Clarity''' - ''The guide must be easy to read, with no obvious spelling or grammar errors.''
#'''Clarity''' - ''The guide must be easy to read, with no obvious spelling or grammar errors.''
''<big>If you are writing a guide and want feedback before taking it to review, please read the '''[[Developing Guides]]''' page.</big>''


Please note that neutrality and civility are '''not requirements'''.
Please note that neutrality and civility are '''not requirements'''.
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''Please add'' {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{Guidesvoting}}</nowiki>}} ''on the guide before nominating it. Please inform the author if they are still active and can easily be found.''
''Please add'' {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{Guidesvoting}}</nowiki>}} ''on the guide before nominating it. Please inform the author if they are still active and can easily be found.''


===[[Hiding In Plain Sight]]===
''There are no guides currently under voting''
Think outside the barricade. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:47, 30 June 2009 (BST)


'''For'''
==Recent Nominations==
#Sgood.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:18, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Bit long, but full of logic <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:37 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>


<br>
===[[Guides:Danger Reports Guide]]===
'''Against'''
I wrote this guide in order to fill a spot that I felt was lacking: A comprehensive guide to the Danger Report System used throughout the wiki. The system set up really is quite awesome, and a very useful tool, but all the wiki code you have to look at (and also finding the reports!) can be a bit confusing. In addition, such a guide may intrigue new users who planned to just look at a few newbie guides, and then keep them as members of the wiki. Thanks for reading and voting!
#'''Way''' to long for something that is just 'Hide in ruins and then after that, use common sense'. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 09:30, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:Italics would have been more appropriate.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 12:04, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#::Part of the reason it's long is because when I wrote it, there was a ''lot'' of opposition to the concept. People said it was madness, suicide -- or worse. Most were scared to give it a try. People were ''asking'' for detailed instructions... It ''had'' to be very detailed to get people to try it, to overcome their resistance. That, and the fact that I like to hear myself talk, of course... :) --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 13:12, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:::All i said was that italics would have been more appropriate, and it wasn't even directed at you. That response is entirely nonsensical and has left me very, very confused. If you remove a colon after i have made this post it will be vandalism as per precedent. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 13:24, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#::::Go back to making crop circles, you discombobulated marsupial, you. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 13:38, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#::Just remember that ''you'' come to ''me'' for formatting help >=] {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 13:54, 30 June 2009 (BST)


===[[Rat Tactics]]===
{{Unsigned|Quinnr|22:51, 1 February 2013}}
Quick, dirty, effective. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:47, 30 June 2009 (BST)


'''For'''  
====Support====
# --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:50, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Changes listed below have been implemented. Great job! '''Support''' {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 00:10, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
#I don't think it's featured guide worthy, but I can easily vouch for its goodness. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 09:31, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#But why are those alliance/group categories on the page? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:35 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
#:Because it was written by and to a degree for Octapopers and they are part of the SW Alliance? --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 13:13, 30 June 2009 (BST)
'''Against'''


===[[Amusing Locations in Malton/Urban Dead Colloquialisms]]===
====Against====
Guide relating to some Urban Dead - related slang.  
#Against, but kind of reluctantly. I think its a good subject, and it is consice and well written, but it is unpolished as a "comprehensive" guide. To be comprehensive, it would need to be more informative. What tips can you provide users for getting info from the game to the wiki (pen and paper, copy/paste, external military reports, etc.)? How do these report affect the various maps on the wiki ([[Danger Center]], [[Mall Status Map]], [[NT Status Map]], etc). What info can be provided about old reports? I'd suggest [[Developing Guides]] to help get it there. If left as is, I'd be for reviewed guide but I don't feel its Featured guide material. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>19:08, 2 February 2013 (UTC)</sub>


'''For'''
====Abstain====
# - The only useful thing gaylim's ever made ;) {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 07:28, 29 June 2009 (BST)
*Putting this as an <s>'''abstain'''</s> (see above) for the moment, but it's more of a '''comment/suggested changes'''. A few things:
#:I'll point you in the direction of [[Civility|this guide]].--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 10:09, 30 June 2009 (BST)
**In the first paragraph of "Reading Reports", you should probably mention that no Danger Reports exist for open blocks (streets etc.);
#::You didn't write that, I could tell cause theres no ugly ALIM bar on the top. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 10:34, 30 June 2009 (BST)
**When you ask for people to "change the status to "unknown"", you should probably specify a standard at which the status should be changed. The most common one I've seen is if a status is more than two weeks old, but given the lower activity levels on the wiki and ingame, we may want to bump that up to a month;
#:::Then it's doing its job nicely.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 10:55, 30 June 2009 (BST)
**When you describe signing, you may want to include the text <nowiki>[[File:Sign.png]]</nowiki>, which prints as [[File:Sign.png]], as new users may be unfamiliar with what a "signature button" is;
#::::I actually have absolutely no idea about what you mean here. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 11:01, 30 June 2009 (BST)
**You may want to include a link to [[User:DangerReport/DangerCenter]], which is the main place the reports are collated and give a broader view of statuses in Malton;
#:::::Oh sorry I was talking about how effective the ALiM navbar is at illustrating whether or not a page has been or is a project of my group. Pages that bear the navbar are more than likely [[2 Cool]] projects whilst pages not bearing the navbar are more than likely not.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 11:33, 30 June 2009 (BST)
**I would recommend keeping the pronouns consistent, probably all "you" (rather than "one"). Just a stylistic note.
#:::::::kkk {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 11:39, 30 June 2009 (BST)
:Other than that, great job! If these changes are made, I'll definitely change to Support. And I look forward to linking to this guide in new [[Project Welcome]] messages! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 19:08, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
#::::::::Also he was telling you to keep a civil tongue. ALiM created you, it can just as easily destroy you.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 12:16, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# As above {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# - The sheer size and detail of this article should be merit enough. Also it's funny. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:02, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# As Giles. --{{User:Dr Eddie Ashford/Sig}} 17:07, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# - Funny, useful, it's good.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# - As above. --[[User:Macampos|Private Mark]] 00:55, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# I'm fond of this one.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 11:33, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Pity it got put in a group subpage location, and was defaced with the irrelevant ALiM "definition" and eyesore of a navbar <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:33 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
#:That definition was substantially reduced following a scruple with bobby. It used to be a synonym for cool, for [[2 Cool|some]] it still is.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 12:37, 30 June 2009 (BST)
'''Against'''
# Incomplete. Amend it and I'll vote keep --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:42, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:I'm intrigued, what do you think it needs more of? --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:17, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#::More T&A! ... erm ... letters, acronyms and jargon. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 13:18, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:::Time and attendance? --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 13:22, 30 June 2009 (BST)


===[[Amusing Locations in Malton/Urban Dead Colloquialisms/Suburb Nicknames]]===
Voting closed. With 50% support and 50% Against this guide is '''Not Reviewed'''.~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>16:00, 10 May 2013 (UTC)</sub>
As above


'''For'''
===[[Guides:Managing Encumbrance]] (2)===
#'Be a local anywhere in Malton'™ --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 13:14, 29 June 2009 (BST)
Right, so I wrote this guide last year, took it to Deveoping Guides, got some input, made some changes and then brought it here for review. I then got more input and made more changes but people didn't change their votes so it failed by a very small margin (71% in favor). So here we are again. It also passed Featured Articles review unanimously if that makes a difference. Thanks. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>00:30, 31 August 2012 (UTC)</sub>


'''Against'''
====Support====
#Useless as a guide. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 07:29, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# '''For''' If this can be an FA it definitely deserves to be an FG. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 01:39, 31 August 2012 (BST)
#Funny, but not a guide. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# Yes, please. -[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 04:26, 31 August 2012 (BST)
#Anal sex --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4 I jizzed in my pants]  [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 14:45, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#Author vote (why did I not do this last time). ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>05:20, 31 August 2012 (UTC)</sub>
#I'm voting against because the [[Amusing Locations in Malton/Urban Dead Colloquialisms]] is a more useful starting page and the template includes links to all the other relevant information. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:31, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#I already voted for last time. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 06:26, 31 August 2012 (BST)
#It's a wee bit useless as a guide.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#Looks really helpful and insightful.--[[User:Shortround|<span style="color:Black">Short</span>]][[User talk:Shortround|<span style="color: Black">round</span>]] }.{ [[Special:Contributions/Shortround|<span style="color:Black">My Contributions</span>]] 14:08, 31 August 2012 (BST)
#Awesome, but not a guide. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:43, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Ridiculous. '''For''' --[[User:Rosslessness|I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, ]][[User talk:Rosslessness|I'm the Ross it deserves.]]  15:05, 31 August 2012 (BST)
#Not amused.--[[User:Bonghit420|Bonghit420]] 09:34, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:<s>'''Support''' This should be on the featured guides page. [[User:Lpha|Lpha]] 00:14, 10 May 2013 (BST)</s> <small>posted after voting had concluded</small>
#Limited real information... or humor, value <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:31 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
#:but its got the naavbaaarrrrr......--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 13:26, 30 June 2009 (BST)


===[[Guides:First Day in Malton]]===
====Against====
Collection of information that's relevant to newer players


'''For'''
====Abstain====
# - It's a [[UDWiki:Featured Articles/Good Articles|GA]], enough said. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 07:27, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# One of the better gameplay guides out there.  It was useful to me when starting out. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:05, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# - Excellent guide, recommended.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# - But of course. --[[User:Macampos|Private Mark]] 00:56, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# - Short, sweet and not dated. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:28, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# - Very helpful. --{{User:Dr Eddie Ashford/Sig}} 12:01, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Now ''this'' is a beginners guide <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:27 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
# - It was very helpful to me once and I regularly recommend it to new players. [[User:Jimaine Dunwich|Jimaine Dunwich]] 16:47, 30 June 2009 (BST)


'''Against'''
'''Passed''' review. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>06:17, 16 September 2012 (UTC)</sub>
# but it is nice if you want to use it.--[[User:Bonghit420|Bonghit420]] 18:13, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#:Hence its usefulness as a guide, people that need help look for it and find it here. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 16:55, 30 June 2009 (BST)


===[[Guides:A Beginners Guide to Urban Dead]]===
===[[Guides:Establishing a Safehouse]]===
As above
Don't think I'll ever be used to this change. Anyway since I want this off orphaned pages I might as well suggest it here for some sort of review as an excuse to link it. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 06:28, 10 January 2012 (UTC)


'''For'''
===[[Guides/New_Player%27s_Guide]]===
# It's a detailed guide but it has become dated (doesn't include any information about ruin).  Also it should be renamed "A Beginning Survivor's Guide to Urban Dead".  With a few small changes it would be totally boss. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:09, 29 June 2009 (BST)
I haven't had any feedback in discussion, so here goes!
# As Giles - It's a bit outdated, but with some touching up should be great. It just needs some updating. Besides that, it's fine.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# Good guide, but yeah, could do with some updating. --{{User:Dr Eddie Ashford/Sig}} 12:03, 30 June 2009 (BST)


'''Against'''
I think that the Urban Dead interface is not that confusing, but new players '''can''' have trouble figuring out good strategies.  I don't want new players to get frustrated by wasted AP (that seem to take forever to recharge), or struggling for a long time to get XP for those first few skills. This guide aims to offer new players everything they need if they don't want the fun of figuring it out for themselves, with explanations organized by concise bullet points so they don't get confused by excessive information.
# I say make an entirely new one. --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 02:30, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# Appears to be kind of a compilation of the various wiki entries. Offers no real insight into playing that isn't found elsewhere. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:30, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Far too long, invoking the TL;DR syndrome in newbs. Most of it looks like straight cut'n'pastes from other pages. The effort needs to be put in tailoring this info so that the main points are explained with links to the in depth look at each section that are already elsewhere on the wiki <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:24 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
#It's a nice portal for all the newbie info, but for that reason, it is daunting and I expect noobs to be able to just search for this info themselves (the parts they specifically want, anyway). {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 15:38, 30 June 2009 (BST)


===[[Guides:So you're on the wrong side]]===
Also, a lot of players get soured on playing as a zombie due to dying early on without much XP and being pretty much useless until they are revived.  I offer a little encouragement to try it in the proper context, hoping to grow tomorrow's crop of zombies.  You'll notice right now there's a real population shortage, only 30% zombies including the Mrh-cows, so I hope you don't mind a pro-zombie player posting! -[[User:Smiles|Smiles]] 01:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
Relating to changing sides (ie: getting a revive, or window diving.)


'''For'''
# Sure, it's short, but it covers an aspect which new players will want to find help on quickly, so it gets a For from me.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# As Drawde --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:31, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# I do like this, it's straight to the point and accurately covers necessary steps to achieve the desired goal. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 08:51, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Needs to be said <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:20 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>


'''Against'''
====Support====
# Useful but it's so short it feels like it should be an addendum or subsection of a more extensive guides above, such as "first day in malton".  Maybe this could be included in another guide.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:12, 29 June 2009 (BST)


'''Abstain'''
====Against====
# Throw this info into the newbies guide to malton and the playing as a zombie guide. Or keep it, i'm not that fussed.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 17:22, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#It's a well written guide, but all of this is already covered in swier's [[First Day in Malton]] guide among others. Check out [[:Category:Guides]] for a list of all guides. I'm sure this guide has merit on its own but not enough to be considered featured. Perhaps if you spruce it up and include something not found in other guides, you can bring it back for review. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>15:12, 28 November 2011 (UTC)</sub>
# --[[User:Bonghit420|Bonghit420]] 17:56, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#:Thank you!  Swier's guide focuses largely on explaining mechanics, is more general, and is longer.  My goal for this guide is definitely not to present any unique information, it is to provide a concise (8 steps, really) "walkthrough" (a clearly designated strategy that is highly effective for leveling).  I hope, with improvements, I can get a walkthrough added to Guides! -[[User:Smiles|Smiles]] 01:52, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
#:loooooooooooooooooooooooool.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 18:02, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#Not much new information. Poorly formatted and structured (no true section headers, no internal links, solely running text). This is going to need some polish, and even then, it needs to compete with a lot of guides with a similar focus like [[First Day in Malton]] or [[Guides:Harmanz]]. I'd recommend you to withdraw this for now and go to [[Developing Guides]] first. There more experienced users like me could at least help you to get it properly formatted. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 15:20, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
#::haha, i ment to put against but whatever.--[[User:Bonghit420|Bonghit420]] 18:08, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#:It is in Developing Guides, that's what I meant by no feedback yet.  Now it's getting attention, hooray!  This is my first webpage thingy and internal links are a very good idea, thank you.  That table of contents/links Swier's has is pretty snazzy.  My original goal was to make it concise enough that headers and table of contents were unnecessary, but that's probably not practical, and I should at least incorporate a table of contents. -[[User:Smiles|Smiles]] 01:52, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
#:::s'all good. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)


===[[Guides:Beyond average damage]]===
====Abstain====
Guide relating to thinking about combat more tactically


'''For'''
With zero fors and two againsts, the guide has been '''rejected'''. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"></span>]]</span>''' 23:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
# Introduces and explains some useful ideas. As an older guide it doesn't include information on darkened buildings or the flare gun/fuel can combo attack.  Nothing a little updated section can't fix. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:18, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# Excellent for basic combat, just needs slight updating.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# As above --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:32, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# Needs an update but it's a well researched and written guide.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 11:42, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# I found it useful as a newb <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:19 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>


'''Against'''
===[[Guides:AP Efficiency]]===
Here we go. --[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 14:04, 21 April 2011 (BST)


===[[Making a Successful group]]===
====Support====
Guide relating to diplomacy and making a group


'''For'''
====Against====
#Needs much work still.
#:Guides shouldn't suggest Extensions as a primary part of the guide. Make a separate section for extensions that improve AP Efficiency.
#:Guides shouldn't suggest [[Death Culting|vari]][[Parachuting|ant]] [[ZK|play]] [[PK|styles]] to further primary [[Zombie|play]] [[Survivor|styles]]. Make a section for those and refer to them there.
#:Keep in mind most players [[Dual Nature|play as they lay]].
#:Until some of these things make more sense, it has been linked up, and it actually presents itself in a manner that's easy to follow I'm gonna say it should probably go back to the [[Developing Guides|drawing board]]. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 14:25, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#Cleaning Defiled Graffiti doesn't even '''''cost''''' AP... [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA_nV1NAfTs|Geez, Kevan goes out of his way to suck Pro-Survivor dick and you guys don't even notice.]{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>15:07 21 April 2011(UTC)</tt>
#:And I quote from my guide-" '''Cleaning bloodstains or defiled graffiti is a last priority''' - (Currently, cleaning defiled graffiti takes no AP, but that may change in the future) As mentioned above, there is no place for hypochondria in the zombie apocalypse. Removing bloodstains and graffiti defiling is pretty damn useless on the grand scale of things." Congrats, ZL, you've win a prize for reading comp.--[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 19:51, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#::Yeah I didn't even get that far, because I ''comprehended'' much earlier...that this guide blows goats. I see you've already modified your little opening list so...you're welcome.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>20:13 21 April 2011(UTC)</tt>
#:::How awesome! I've always wanted to write a guide that blows goats despite being digital. Does it blow digi-goats?--[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 20:32, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#Right. You've completely missed out on the benefits of zombies sleeping in dark buildings which is triply useful. No mention of combat reviving, and youve failed to cover the most ap efficient thing a survivor can do, namely run a [[RP]]. --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 20:14, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#::Added RP and CRing, but I don't really get the dark buildings deal. Can you explain it to me?--[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 20:34, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#:::A zombie in a dark building is less likely to be headshot, so you save ap. In addition to this a zombie in a dark building cannot be dumped or even seen as a corpse until the building is powered, so you're less likely to be removed unless by concerted effort. Finally, even combat revives are less effective in the dark.--[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 20:46, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#::::Noted and added. --[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 21:00, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#:::::I think you've missed the point of opening a rp. Its about increasing survivor ap.--[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 21:15, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#::::::Ohhhhh, I get it now.--[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 21:18, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#:::::::Also stylistically, Id put basic tips first, you even start the topic with "first things first." Put that at the top. --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 13:13, 22 April 2011 (BST)


'''Against'''
====Abstain====
# --[[User:Bonghit420|Bonghit420]] 09:45, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# It's ironic because the person who made it never made a successful group. --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4 I jizzed in my pants]  [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 14:47, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#that guide is fucking awful. Not [[2 Cool]] at all.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 15:16, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# Like many guides advertised to be for both sides this one really only applies to survivors.  And it's not very thorough.  --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:20, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# No fucking way.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# As my last vote. Make a new guide, and add successful group leader testimonials. --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 02:32, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# Useless --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:32, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# As Haliman. --{{User:Dr Eddie Ashford/Sig}} 12:10, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Worst. Guide. Ever. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 15:39, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:Yeah. It looks more like a "How to make a successful group in 5 easy steps" program rather than a guide. No wonder it fails. --{{User:Dr Eddie Ashford/Sig}} 17:06, 30 June 2009 (BST)


===[[Guide: Zoe Gorefest's Guide for The Career PKer]]===
With zero for votes and three againsts, the guide has been '''rejected'''. Feel free to resubmit after overhauling it. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 03:45, 7 May 2011 (BST)
Guide relating to player killing


'''For'''
===[[Guides:Managing Encumbrance]]===
# Well - written, and the images complement the guide nicely. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
Thanks. {{User:Vapor/sig}} <sub>05:38, 26 March 2011</sub>
# It could use additional info on darkened buildings (many PKers hide there now) but an overall excellent article.  Also I think the Fallout images should be removed. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:23, 29 June 2009 (BST)
====Support====
# Hell yes--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# As Drawde --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:33, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# As Link. --{{User:Dr Eddie Ashford/Sig}} 12:15, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# Still relevant, even though it's author is a long time inactive <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:17 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
# {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 15:42, 30 June 2009 (BST)


'''Against'''
#Formatting could use some tweaking- there are too many headers here, which makes the guide a bit intimidating. Other than that, I can find nothing wrong with it- it's thorough, clear and interesting. Great work, Vapor. --[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 09:48, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
#Not bad. Would agree there may be too many headings - and the idea of 'Base 8, Base 10, etc' was confusing at first and could be made a little clearer. Yes there's a little work that could be done to it but these are small edits for what seems to be a good guide. --[[User:Neko|Neko]] 18:22, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
#Thorougly done. [[User:Smyg|Smyg]] 18:27, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
#Nice. I like that you included the section on Zombies as well. Probably would have been overlooked by most.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>23:04 26 March 2011(UTC)</tt>
#Had nearly forgotten to vote. So, yeah, another good example of what [[Developing Guides]] can accomplish in polishing a guide. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 13:50, 30 March 2011 (BST)
#:I wish I had gotten a bit more feedback on Developing Guides actually. Most of the feedback I've received is either on the guide talk page while I was working on it and here on [[Guides/Review]]. I chalk it up to few people with DG on their watchlist. What's the policy of making changes to a guide while it is up on review by the way. I need to make some changes but obviously it could null some votes if I did so. See below and the talk page. I pretty much need to do an overhaul on the section headers. {{User:Vapor/sig}} <sub>14:33, 30 March 2011</sub>
#::Minor alterations based on G/R input have often been done (as [[Guides/Review/Archive/2#Abstain_3|here]] or [[Guides/Review/Archive/2#Abstain|here]]) and have never led to nullifying. And yeah, DG is sadly a bit underused. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 14:41, 30 March 2011 (BST)
#:::I've made adjustments. I suppose they could be considered minor. I didn't change any of the content, just the presentation. Hopefully makes it easier to read. {{User:Vapor/sig}} <sub>18:51, 30 March 2011</sub>


===[[Guides:Real-Time Fighting]]===
====Against====
Guide about fighting in real time
# Against, for formatting and clarity.  It's interesting, well researched, and while it makes some suggestions that I don't agree with (like advising survivors against carrying "just in case" items like a tool box) I mostly like the basic content.  Many sections could be merged or substantially simplified, though, and that would make it a lot easier- and more pleasant- to read and understand.  I'll leave some specific examples on the guide's talk page. --[[User:Father Thompson|<span style="color: Black">FT</span>]] 15:50, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
#:Thanks for providing such thorough input. I will be implementing some of your suggestions. {{User:Vapor/sig}} <sub>20:43, 26 March 2011</sub>
# The tables are confusing and get redundant quickly. There's a mention that base encumberence should be no more than 22%, but no explanation of why, and no mention of what might ''be'' said base encumberance, which is a pretty big gap for an encumberance guide. It feels like it's still being written.--{{User:Rachel_Akebre/signature}} 01:56, 3 April 2011 (BST)


'''For'''
====Abstain====
#It had to be addressed somewhere.  Again, like all of the old guides there needs to be an update on fighting in darkened buildings, but good nonetheless. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:36, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# Good guide, as Giles.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# As Giles. --[[User:Macampos|Private Mark]] 00:57, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# As above --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:34, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# Me likey.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 11:42, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# Good guide and very useful, especially to the groups out there who prefer using real-time tactics. --{{User:Dr Eddie Ashford/Sig}} 12:18, 30 June 2009 (BST)


'''Against'''
With an approval rate of ~71%, this guide has been successfully '''reviewed'''. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 13:37, 10 April 2011 (BST)
#The only practical reason for a survivor to participate in a R/T fight is when defending a building, and this doesn't cover that, ''at all''. And a zombie in a R/T fight is at a real disadvantage (unless the survivor has something to stay and fight for) because he can't follow inside usually <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:14 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
#Why participate in real-time fighting outside? If you are XPing, then use your AP killing said opponent till you have no AP/HP then go inside. As zombie, stand there attacking. Otherwise, don't do it. Simple. That's my outisde RT fighting guide. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 15:47, 30 June 2009 (BST)


===[[The right build for you]]===
''Please check the [[Guides/Review/Archive|archive]] for older nominations''
Guide about character builds
 
'''For'''
# Good article. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:35, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#I do like this. Simply and to the point. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 15:52, 30 June 2009 (BST)
'''Against'''
 
#This is actually a pretty good article.  But the same info is organized in greater detail in [[Guides:Meta-Careers]].--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 06:33, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:You are against an article because there is a different guide which you think is better? {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 15:52, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:<s>#New guide. --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 02:33, 30 June 2009 (BST)</s> - Nevermind. [[Guides:Meta-Careers]] --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 02:35, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Doesn't explain/compare the differences between pure killing, and FAKing up. This isn't giving alternative builds, it's telling you what build this guy thinks is best, a private using firearms (and if you don't choose that, then how to make your choice into a firearm specialist) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:08 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
 
===[[Guide:Siege PKer Guide]]===
Relating to player killing in a siege
 
'''For'''
#The QSG has a clue. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#Fresh.  Also the "false infection > kill" section is devious.  --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:34, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#Yep.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#scrap everything else, this is the only one you need.--[[User:Bonghit420|Bonghit420]] 18:15, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# A classic. Required reading. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:36, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#This is the shiz-nit. --{{User:Rorybob/Sig}}08:01, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Good <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 11:57 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
 
'''Against'''
 
===[[Zombie Emergency Management Agency/Urban Dead Guide]]===
Another more general guide
 
'''For'''


'''Against'''
[[Category:Guides]]
# The author was a tad clueless, and the guide isn't well - written. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# It contains the same info as [[Guides:A Beginners Guide to Urban Dead]] only less detailed. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:27, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# useless --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:37, 30 June 2009 (BST)
 
===[[Civility]]===
Guide about acting nicely towards other people
 
'''For'''
# Needed, and a must-read for those who take the game far too seriously. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# Well it's funny, relevant, and it applies to both sides of the game. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:29, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# Will always be relevant.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:11, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# Always. --[[User:Macampos|Private Mark]] 00:57, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# As Drawde. --{{User:Dr Eddie Ashford/Sig}} 12:13, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# Allot of people ought to read it.--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 12:16, 30 June 2009 (BST)
'''Against'''
#Fuck no--[[User:Bonghit420|Bonghit420]] 18:16, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#:This should be common since. No guide needed for this, just avoid people who act like this.--[[User:Bonghit420|Bonghit420]] 18:28, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# Meh. I hate being told how express myself in such rigid terms. I also don't agree with many of the examples, anyway --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:40, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# [[2 Cool|Some]] of Malton's most notorious groups lack civility.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:20, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:Me, me, me... <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 11:50 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
#Not a guide. Civility isn't a necessary part of the game, but a policy that players can either choose to either follow or ignore <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 11:50 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
 
===[[Guides:Meta-Careers]]===
About the role one plays within the game.
 
'''For'''
#An obsessively organized analysis of the different career paths.  I'm not sure it's useful to new players but it's just loaded with info. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:42, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# Yup --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:40, 30 June 2009 (BST)
 
'''Against'''
#I just don't think this guide teaches anyone anything of value. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:22, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#The Zombie bit is cool but the Survivor bit is a little silly, it should really be a third the size, at leased. It's teaching survivors that there are many careers, 75% of which are boring and uninspiring. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 15:56, 30 June 2009 (BST)
 
==Recent Nominations==
''Please check the [[Guides/Review/Archive|archive]] for older nominations''

Latest revision as of 15:03, 10 May 2013

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Guides:Danger Reports Guide

I wrote this guide in order to fill a spot that I felt was lacking: A comprehensive guide to the Danger Report System used throughout the wiki. The system set up really is quite awesome, and a very useful tool, but all the wiki code you have to look at (and also finding the reports!) can be a bit confusing. In addition, such a guide may intrigue new users who planned to just look at a few newbie guides, and then keep them as members of the wiki. Thanks for reading and voting!

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Quinnr (talkcontribs) 22:51, 1 February 2013.

Support

  1. Changes listed below have been implemented. Great job! Support Bob Moncrief EBDW! 00:10, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Against

  1. Against, but kind of reluctantly. I think its a good subject, and it is consice and well written, but it is unpolished as a "comprehensive" guide. To be comprehensive, it would need to be more informative. What tips can you provide users for getting info from the game to the wiki (pen and paper, copy/paste, external military reports, etc.)? How do these report affect the various maps on the wiki (Danger Center, Mall Status Map, NT Status Map, etc). What info can be provided about old reports? I'd suggest Developing Guides to help get it there. If left as is, I'd be for reviewed guide but I don't feel its Featured guide material. ~Vsig.png 19:08, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Abstain

  • Putting this as an abstain (see above) for the moment, but it's more of a comment/suggested changes. A few things:
    • In the first paragraph of "Reading Reports", you should probably mention that no Danger Reports exist for open blocks (streets etc.);
    • When you ask for people to "change the status to "unknown"", you should probably specify a standard at which the status should be changed. The most common one I've seen is if a status is more than two weeks old, but given the lower activity levels on the wiki and ingame, we may want to bump that up to a month;
    • When you describe signing, you may want to include the text [[File:Sign.png]], which prints as Sign.png, as new users may be unfamiliar with what a "signature button" is;
    • You may want to include a link to User:DangerReport/DangerCenter, which is the main place the reports are collated and give a broader view of statuses in Malton;
    • I would recommend keeping the pronouns consistent, probably all "you" (rather than "one"). Just a stylistic note.
Other than that, great job! If these changes are made, I'll definitely change to Support. And I look forward to linking to this guide in new Project Welcome messages! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 19:08, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Voting closed. With 50% support and 50% Against this guide is Not Reviewed.~Vsig.png 16:00, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Guides:Managing Encumbrance (2)

Right, so I wrote this guide last year, took it to Deveoping Guides, got some input, made some changes and then brought it here for review. I then got more input and made more changes but people didn't change their votes so it failed by a very small margin (71% in favor). So here we are again. It also passed Featured Articles review unanimously if that makes a difference. Thanks. ~Vsig.png 00:30, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Support

  1. For If this can be an FA it definitely deserves to be an FG. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 01:39, 31 August 2012 (BST)
  2. Yes, please. -MHSstaff 04:26, 31 August 2012 (BST)
  3. Author vote (why did I not do this last time). ~Vsig.png 05:20, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
  4. I already voted for last time. -- Spiderzed 06:26, 31 August 2012 (BST)
  5. Looks really helpful and insightful.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 14:08, 31 August 2012 (BST)
  6. Ridiculous. For --I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 15:05, 31 August 2012 (BST)
    Support This should be on the featured guides page. Lpha 00:14, 10 May 2013 (BST) posted after voting had concluded

Against

Abstain

Passed review. ~Vsig.png 06:17, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Guides:Establishing a Safehouse

Don't think I'll ever be used to this change. Anyway since I want this off orphaned pages I might as well suggest it here for some sort of review as an excuse to link it. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 06:28, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Guides/New_Player's_Guide

I haven't had any feedback in discussion, so here goes!

I think that the Urban Dead interface is not that confusing, but new players can have trouble figuring out good strategies. I don't want new players to get frustrated by wasted AP (that seem to take forever to recharge), or struggling for a long time to get XP for those first few skills. This guide aims to offer new players everything they need if they don't want the fun of figuring it out for themselves, with explanations organized by concise bullet points so they don't get confused by excessive information.

Also, a lot of players get soured on playing as a zombie due to dying early on without much XP and being pretty much useless until they are revived. I offer a little encouragement to try it in the proper context, hoping to grow tomorrow's crop of zombies. You'll notice right now there's a real population shortage, only 30% zombies including the Mrh-cows, so I hope you don't mind a pro-zombie player posting! -Smiles 01:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)


Support

Against

  1. It's a well written guide, but all of this is already covered in swier's First Day in Malton guide among others. Check out Category:Guides for a list of all guides. I'm sure this guide has merit on its own but not enough to be considered featured. Perhaps if you spruce it up and include something not found in other guides, you can bring it back for review. ~Vsig.png 15:12, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
    Thank you! Swier's guide focuses largely on explaining mechanics, is more general, and is longer. My goal for this guide is definitely not to present any unique information, it is to provide a concise (8 steps, really) "walkthrough" (a clearly designated strategy that is highly effective for leveling). I hope, with improvements, I can get a walkthrough added to Guides! -Smiles 01:52, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
  2. Not much new information. Poorly formatted and structured (no true section headers, no internal links, solely running text). This is going to need some polish, and even then, it needs to compete with a lot of guides with a similar focus like First Day in Malton or Guides:Harmanz. I'd recommend you to withdraw this for now and go to Developing Guides first. There more experienced users like me could at least help you to get it properly formatted. -- Spiderzed 15:20, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
    It is in Developing Guides, that's what I meant by no feedback yet. Now it's getting attention, hooray! This is my first webpage thingy and internal links are a very good idea, thank you. That table of contents/links Swier's has is pretty snazzy. My original goal was to make it concise enough that headers and table of contents were unnecessary, but that's probably not practical, and I should at least incorporate a table of contents. -Smiles 01:52, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Abstain

With zero fors and two againsts, the guide has been rejected. -- Spiderzed 23:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Guides:AP Efficiency

Here we go. --Penguinpyro 14:04, 21 April 2011 (BST)

Support

Against

  1. Needs much work still.
    Guides shouldn't suggest Extensions as a primary part of the guide. Make a separate section for extensions that improve AP Efficiency.
    Guides shouldn't suggest variant play styles to further primary play styles. Make a section for those and refer to them there.
    Keep in mind most players play as they lay.
    Until some of these things make more sense, it has been linked up, and it actually presents itself in a manner that's easy to follow I'm gonna say it should probably go back to the drawing board. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 14:25, 21 April 2011 (BST)
  2. Cleaning Defiled Graffiti doesn't even cost AP... Kevan goes out of his way to suck Pro-Survivor dick and you guys don't even notice.-- | T | BALLS! | 15:07 21 April 2011(UTC)
    And I quote from my guide-" Cleaning bloodstains or defiled graffiti is a last priority - (Currently, cleaning defiled graffiti takes no AP, but that may change in the future) As mentioned above, there is no place for hypochondria in the zombie apocalypse. Removing bloodstains and graffiti defiling is pretty damn useless on the grand scale of things." Congrats, ZL, you've win a prize for reading comp.--Penguinpyro 19:51, 21 April 2011 (BST)
    Yeah I didn't even get that far, because I comprehended much earlier...that this guide blows goats. I see you've already modified your little opening list so...you're welcome.-- | T | BALLS! | 20:13 21 April 2011(UTC)
    How awesome! I've always wanted to write a guide that blows goats despite being digital. Does it blow digi-goats?--Penguinpyro 20:32, 21 April 2011 (BST)
  3. Right. You've completely missed out on the benefits of zombies sleeping in dark buildings which is triply useful. No mention of combat reviving, and youve failed to cover the most ap efficient thing a survivor can do, namely run a RP. --Rosslessness 20:14, 21 April 2011 (BST)
    Added RP and CRing, but I don't really get the dark buildings deal. Can you explain it to me?--Penguinpyro 20:34, 21 April 2011 (BST)
    A zombie in a dark building is less likely to be headshot, so you save ap. In addition to this a zombie in a dark building cannot be dumped or even seen as a corpse until the building is powered, so you're less likely to be removed unless by concerted effort. Finally, even combat revives are less effective in the dark.--Rosslessness 20:46, 21 April 2011 (BST)
    Noted and added. --Penguinpyro 21:00, 21 April 2011 (BST)
    I think you've missed the point of opening a rp. Its about increasing survivor ap.--Rosslessness 21:15, 21 April 2011 (BST)
    Ohhhhh, I get it now.--Penguinpyro 21:18, 21 April 2011 (BST)
    Also stylistically, Id put basic tips first, you even start the topic with "first things first." Put that at the top. --Rosslessness 13:13, 22 April 2011 (BST)

Abstain

With zero for votes and three againsts, the guide has been rejected. Feel free to resubmit after overhauling it. -- Spiderzed 03:45, 7 May 2011 (BST)

Guides:Managing Encumbrance

Thanks. ~Vsig.png 05:38, 26 March 2011

Support

  1. Formatting could use some tweaking- there are too many headers here, which makes the guide a bit intimidating. Other than that, I can find nothing wrong with it- it's thorough, clear and interesting. Great work, Vapor. --Penguinpyro 09:48, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
  2. Not bad. Would agree there may be too many headings - and the idea of 'Base 8, Base 10, etc' was confusing at first and could be made a little clearer. Yes there's a little work that could be done to it but these are small edits for what seems to be a good guide. --Neko 18:22, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
  3. Thorougly done. Smyg 18:27, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
  4. Nice. I like that you included the section on Zombies as well. Probably would have been overlooked by most.-- | T | BALLS! | 23:04 26 March 2011(UTC)
  5. Had nearly forgotten to vote. So, yeah, another good example of what Developing Guides can accomplish in polishing a guide. -- Spiderzed 13:50, 30 March 2011 (BST)
    I wish I had gotten a bit more feedback on Developing Guides actually. Most of the feedback I've received is either on the guide talk page while I was working on it and here on Guides/Review. I chalk it up to few people with DG on their watchlist. What's the policy of making changes to a guide while it is up on review by the way. I need to make some changes but obviously it could null some votes if I did so. See below and the talk page. I pretty much need to do an overhaul on the section headers. ~Vsig.png 14:33, 30 March 2011
    Minor alterations based on G/R input have often been done (as here or here) and have never led to nullifying. And yeah, DG is sadly a bit underused. -- Spiderzed 14:41, 30 March 2011 (BST)
    I've made adjustments. I suppose they could be considered minor. I didn't change any of the content, just the presentation. Hopefully makes it easier to read. ~Vsig.png 18:51, 30 March 2011

Against

  1. Against, for formatting and clarity. It's interesting, well researched, and while it makes some suggestions that I don't agree with (like advising survivors against carrying "just in case" items like a tool box) I mostly like the basic content. Many sections could be merged or substantially simplified, though, and that would make it a lot easier- and more pleasant- to read and understand. I'll leave some specific examples on the guide's talk page. --FT 15:50, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
    Thanks for providing such thorough input. I will be implementing some of your suggestions. ~Vsig.png 20:43, 26 March 2011
  2. The tables are confusing and get redundant quickly. There's a mention that base encumberence should be no more than 22%, but no explanation of why, and no mention of what might be said base encumberance, which is a pretty big gap for an encumberance guide. It feels like it's still being written.--Ryvyoli Y R 01:56, 3 April 2011 (BST)

Abstain

With an approval rate of ~71%, this guide has been successfully reviewed. -- Spiderzed 13:37, 10 April 2011 (BST)

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