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#'''Dupe''' - but i CBA'ed to find it. Someone else will, though. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 23:57, 2 October 2008 (BST)
#:<s>'''Dupe'''</s> - but i CBA'ed to find it. Someone else will, though. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 23:57, 2 October 2008 (BST)
#:Additionally, we already have the fuel-flare combo, so -- while I actually think molotovs aren't a bad idea -- this is a tad redundant. However... it's also spammy cuz would fire REALLY hurt a zombie? I mean, a flaming zombie is ever WORSE than a regular one.... --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 00:02, 3 October 2008 (BST)
#::Additionally, we already have the fuel-flare combo, so -- while I actually think molotovs aren't a bad idea -- this is a tad redundant. However... it's also spammy cuz would fire REALLY hurt a zombie? I mean, a flaming zombie is ever WORSE than a regular one.... --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 00:02, 3 October 2008 (BST)
#:::'''Spam''' - Changed as prt my comments and everyone else's. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 20:09, 6 October 2008 (BST)
#'''Spam''' - Having read the linked suggestion now, this wouldn't be a dupe, but this suggestion is still bad. My comment that this would be pretty useless (a 15% chance to do 8 points of damage?) still stands.--[[User:Rude Sykes|A Kenyan Mangrove Crab]] 03:05, 4 October 2008 (BST)
#'''Spam''' - Having read the linked suggestion now, this wouldn't be a dupe, but this suggestion is still bad. My comment that this would be pretty useless (a 15% chance to do 8 points of damage?) still stands.--[[User:Rude Sykes|A Kenyan Mangrove Crab]] 03:05, 4 October 2008 (BST)
#<s>'''[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/PR_Weapon#Molotov_Cocktails Dupe]''' As per the link. Pretty much redundant anyway as a shotgun does 10 points of damage with a 65% chance to hit. (BTW: Don't forgot to take it to [[Talk:Suggestions]] next time.) [[User:Linkthewindow|Linkthewindow]] 01:27, 3 October 2008 (BST)</s>  
#<s>'''[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/PR_Weapon#Molotov_Cocktails Dupe]''' As per the link. Pretty much redundant anyway as a shotgun does 10 points of damage with a 65% chance to hit. (BTW: Don't forgot to take it to [[Talk:Suggestions]] next time.) [[User:Linkthewindow|Linkthewindow]] 01:27, 3 October 2008 (BST)</s>  

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20081002 MOLOTOV COCKTAILS

Suggestion type

Transforms the existing drinks in useful civilian weapons.

Suggestion Scope

This will affect more Survivors than Zombies.

Suggestion description

Why not change the existing "Wine" for something a little more useful? "Vodka" or "Whiskey" (for example). They say one glass of wine every morning and you will have a better health. Is anybody here worried about health? We wanna survive! With Vodka or Whiskey, or some drink really strong, we can produce Molotovs!

Molotov cocktails could be lit with a "Lighter" (another new item). See this:

The survivor searchs in "Johnny without Arms" and finds Vodka.

He searches again and finds "Lighter".

He uses the "Lighter", wich transforms one "Vodka" or "Whiskey" in his backpack into a Molotov!

He attacks a Zombie with the molotov!

Molotovs can cause about 8 points of damage, 15% of the time. I think the damage is not too much this way, if you analize it is a Molotov! The human body burns very easily. This transforms an useless item that heals 1 HP, in one useful item that burns the undead monsters!

If you think as the "Lighter" as a new weapon... the liquors will be its ammunition! It will be a civilian weapon, just like the movie "28 Days Later" shows...

Also, this mod could make the "pub" places in another source of ammunition for players, so the zombies will have new targets and the survivors will have a new hope!

The Lighter could be found in almost every place, like Police Departments, Fire Stations, Pubs, Clubs, Misc. Buildings, Warehouses, Junkyards... and much more! The Lighter could be more useful if we use it combined with the other items, like the Spray Cans, or the Fuel Cans. We can think about it. But for now, i am only suggesting the Molotov.

The Drinks could be found in their usual places. Soon it will raise the search for alcohol in the game.

I am really enjoying the game, great work you guys done!

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Keep Votes

  1. Keep - Finally I could vote on me! It is a pain that nobody else done it. About putting fire on a bottle of Smirnoff, The use of rags or tissue was not written, because it would be very easy to take tissue from clothes, with so many bodies on the ground. And this weapon should be used by civilians, not Flarethrowers! Anybody seen "28 days later???". And strong alcoholic beverages should be much more easy to find than the flares or the shotgun or the fuel... Thanks for the voting. Billyumreal, 3 October 2008 (BST)
  2. Keep - Genius--/~Rakuen~\Talk Domo.gif I Still Love Grim 05:02, 4 October 2008 (BST)

Kill Votes

  1. Kill - Don't get me wrong, a good molotov suggestion might just get a keep vote from me someday. But, this isn't it. --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 01:08, 3 October 2008 (BST)
  2. Kill Nice attempt but it works better with fuel than booze. Try putting it up for discussion on the page linked to below. Oh and I would point out that the dupe votes are all invalid at the moment... the only one with a link is to an area affect weapon causing different damage with different hit chances, a shared theme does not equal dupe guys. --Honestmistake 10:49, 3 October 2008 (BST)
  3. Kill - Search rates? Needs development. -- Galaxy125 16:01, 4 October 2008 (BST)
  4. Kill - Bad grammar and word usage... General idea makes sense but the way you go about it isn't. I may post my own improvements on the discussion page of this - Zig13 - 4/10/2008 at 16:07(BST) 16:07, 4 October 2008 (BST)
  5. Kill - It's an interesting idea, but it's not nearly enough damage to compete with guns or flares. It sounds like you want it for the flavor though, rather than for pure damage. If it were more balanced in terms of damage, and had more detail as to stuff like encumbrance and search rates, then it might be cool. I guess. --Jasonjason 22:11, 4 October 2008 (BST)
  6. Kill - Well it sounds like something that would kill a hoard of 37 zombies because,MOLOTOV'S EXPLODE AND FIRE SPREADS. It's overpowered! --The Malton Merchant 07:33, 5 October 2008 (BST)

Spam/Dupe Votes

  1. Dupe - but i CBA'ed to find it. Someone else will, though. --WanYao 23:57, 2 October 2008 (BST)
    Additionally, we already have the fuel-flare combo, so -- while I actually think molotovs aren't a bad idea -- this is a tad redundant. However... it's also spammy cuz would fire REALLY hurt a zombie? I mean, a flaming zombie is ever WORSE than a regular one.... --WanYao 00:02, 3 October 2008 (BST)
    Spam - Changed as prt my comments and everyone else's. --WanYao 20:09, 6 October 2008 (BST)
  2. Spam - Having read the linked suggestion now, this wouldn't be a dupe, but this suggestion is still bad. My comment that this would be pretty useless (a 15% chance to do 8 points of damage?) still stands.--A Kenyan Mangrove Crab 03:05, 4 October 2008 (BST)
  3. Dupe As per the link. Pretty much redundant anyway as a shotgun does 10 points of damage with a 65% chance to hit. (BTW: Don't forgot to take it to Talk:Suggestions next time.) Linkthewindow 01:27, 3 October 2008 (BST)
    Vote changed to Spam per the rest of the users. Sorry about the mistake-I was tired at the time. Linkthewindow 02:17, 4 October 2008 (BST)
  4. Dupe - Ass above. Also, whiskey would make a pretty terrible Molotov cocktail, as would most vodkas. --William Told 01:41, 3 October 2008 (BST)
  5. Dupe - Also how many bar actually have vodka you can light to cause damage. Go try lighting a bottle of Smirnoff sometime.... -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 12:13, 3 October 2008 (BST)
    This is the correct dupe. Alcohol is deemed a 'useless' item in game, and this suggestion lights it on fire and throws it at another character, hence, successful dupe. It's hard being me sometimes. Someone cycle this already. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 23:59, 4 October 2008 (BST)
  6. Dupe - I've seen this one three times now --Lt.G Deathnut | TheStayPuftMan 22:13, 3 October 2008 (BST)
  7. Spam - Firstly, not every building should have a function. Secondly, who would use this when you could just fire flares at them with the same chance of hitting, yet with a damage that is almost twice what this would cause? It'd be pointless. However, this is definitely not a dupe. For fucks sake people, read something else about the suggestion besides the name. The effects are entirely different. Most importantly, this is not an area of effect attack, whereas the other is. Until you find a better link, I advise against removing this as a dupe. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 22:41, 3 October 2008 (BST)
  8. Spam - Wow. That was pretty shitty.-- dǝǝɥs ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 17:07, 4 October 2008 (BST)
  9. Spam -As Midianian. And the other dupe is hardly a suggestion.   AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:08, 5 October 2008 (BST)
  10. Dupe - Hi, Please read the frequently suggested ideas. Besides, this would be overpowered. It is also a PKer buff, which is a major no-no.--Kolechovski 20:06, 5 October 2008 (BST)



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