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:::::????? ive been on the wiki for about 6 months or so, im no ones puppet --[[User:Imthatguy|Imthatguy]] 02:40, 7 July 2009 (BST)
:::::????? ive been on the wiki for about 6 months or so, im no ones puppet --[[User:Imthatguy|Imthatguy]] 02:40, 7 July 2009 (BST)
::::You retard, only sysops can rule on misconduct cases. And yeah bob, he's been around for 9 months and made <200 edits. A ''true'' martyr for his cause of saving this wiki. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 02:47, 7 July 2009 (BST)
::::You retard, only sysops can rule on misconduct cases. And yeah bob, he's been around for 9 months and made <200 edits. A ''true'' martyr for his cause of saving this wiki. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 02:47, 7 July 2009 (BST)
:::::Ouch.... you dont wanna be up for misconduct next, do you?--[[User:Imthatguy|Imthatguy]] 02:49, 7 July 2009 (BST)

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This page is for the reporting of administrator (sysop) misconduct within the Urban Dead wiki. Sysops are trusted with a considerable number of powers, many of which have the capacity to be abused. In many circumstances, it is possible for a sysop to cause considerable havoc. As such, users are provided this page to report misconduct from the System Operators. For consistency and accountability, sysops also adhere to the guidelines listed here.

Guidelines for System Operator Misconduct Reporting

The charge of Administrative Misconduct is a grave charge indeed. If misconduct occurs, it is important that the rest of the sysop team be able to review the charges as necessary. Any charge of administrative misconduct must be backed up with evidence. The clearest evidence that can be provided for administrative misconduct is a clear discrepancy between the relevant action log (deletion, block, or protection log) and the archives of the relevant administration service page, and this is a minimum standard of evidence admitted in such a tribunal.

Misconduct is primarily related to specific Administrator Services, not standards of behavior. As such, situations including verbal attacks by sysops, while frowned upon, do not constitute misconduct. Sysops on a wiki are in theory supposed to have no more authority than a regular user - they merely have a greater scope of power. Personality conflicts between sysops and regular users should be treated just as a personality conflict between two regular users. If, in the course of such a conflict, a sysop abuses their administrative powers by banning a user, blocking or deleting a page without due process, that is misconduct, and should be reported to this page.

There is, however, an exception to this rule - excessive bullying, or attempts to treat the status of sysop as a badge of authority to force a sysop's wishes on the wiki may also come under misconduct. Any accusations of this should come with just as clear evidence, and for such an action to be declared misconduct, there should be a clear pattern of behavior across a considerable period of time.

All discussion of misconduct should occur on this page, not the talk page - any discussion on the talk page will be merged into this page once discovered. Once a misconduct case has been declared closed, a member of the sysop team will mete out the punishment (if deemed necessary), and then move the case to the Archive.

Administrative Abilities

For future reference, the following are sysop specific abilities (ie things that sysops can do that regular users cannot):

  • Deletion (ie complete removal, as opposed to blanking) of pages (including Images and any other page-like construct on this wiki), through the delete tab on the top of any deletable construct.
  • Undeletion (ie returning a page, complete with page history) of pages (including any other page-like construct on this wiki (Images are not included as deletion of an image is not undoable), through the undelete tab on the top of any undeletable construct
  • Protection of pages (ie removing the ability of regular users to edit or move a particular page), through the protect tab on the top of any protectable construct.
  • Moving of pages (ie changing a page complete with the page's history to a different namespace).
  • Warning users reported in Vandal Banning.
  • Banning of Users (ie removing the ability of a specific user to edit the wiki), through the Block User page.
  • Editing of Protected pages by any means.
  • Research IP activity using the CheckUser extension.
  • (Bureaucrats Only) Promotion (providing the above abilities) of User to Sysop/Bureaucrat status.

If none of the above abilities were abused and the case doesn't apply for the exception mentioned above, then this is a case for UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration or UDWiki:Administration/Vandal Banning.

Example of Misconduct Proceedings

Sysop seems to have deleted Bad Page, but I can't find it in the Archives of either the Deletion or Speedy Deletion pages. The Logs show a deletion at 18:06, October 24th 2005 by a System Operator, but this does not seem to be backed up by a request for that deletion. I would like to know why this is the case -- Reporter 13:42, 28 Oct 2005 (BST)

The deletion was asked through my talk page. I give my Talk page as proof of this. -- Sysop 13:42, 28 Oct 2005 (BST)
It looks like the page that was deleted did not belong to the requesting user, so you were in no position to delete it on sight. -- Reporter 13:42, 28 Oct 2005 (BST)
You know the rules, Sysop. All deletion requests have to go through the Speedy Delete page. Next time, please inform the user where they should lodge the request. This is a clear violation, will you accept a one-day ban as punishment? -- Sysop2 13:42, 28 Oct 2005 (BST)
I'm not liking it, but I clearly broke the rules, I'll accept the ban. I'll certainly remember due process next time... Sysop 13:42, 28 Oct 2005 (BST)
As punishment for failing to follow due process, Sysop has been banned for a period of 24 hours. This will be moved to the Archive shortly. -- Sysop2 13:42, 28 Oct 2005 (BST)

Before Reporting Misconduct

Due to a the growing number of Non-Misconduct cases popping up on this page the Administration Staff has decided to compile a basic summary of what has been viewed as Not Misconduct in the past. Please read over UDWiki:Misconduct and make sure that what you are reporting is in fact misconduct before filing a report here.

Cases made to further personal disputes should never be made here, harassment of any user through administration pages may result in vandal escalations. Despite their unique status this basic protection does still apply to Sysops.

Misconduct Cases Currently Under Consideration

User:Suicidalangel

Deleted the images from this case when the majority were clearly against it. Pornography is by its very nature subjective and if the majority of the community agree that this is not pornography (and lets be clear here, these people can be very prudish when it comes to porn images) that it isn't porno one sysop should be allowed to come through and delete it anyway. Undelete, let the images serve their time and be deleted/not deleted as per the usual methods (aka democracy) and slap a warning on SA.--xoxo 16:27, 6 July 2009 (BST)

Get ready for a big surprise here folks...Not Misconduct. They spoke for themselves and sysops have carte blanche to delete what they perceive as pornography thanks to the scheduled deletions policy. Remember that when you vote in your sysops in the future...or change the policy. I return you to your regularly scheduled wiki-drama, I have shit to do. (that's for DDR ;) Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 16:54, 6 July 2009 (BST)
We can't undelete images, Jed. Unless someone's got them in their Firefox cache (or saved on their hard drive,) they're gone for good. Linkthewindow  Talk  17:18, 6 July 2009 (BST)

Not voting here since I'm involved, but the reason I put those images up for deletion as they weren't obviously pornographic (I mean, line drawings?) but still rather offensive (actually, the reason I put those up for deletion was because a friend complained about them on IRC.) So I put them up for a vote to let the community decide, as it wasn't obvious porn, but wasn't just a dirty joke, ether. Linkthewindow  Talk  17:17, 6 July 2009 (BST)

Pornography - Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal. That wasn't meant to be sexually arousing. That's called sexual humor. We've all seen Superbad. The famous dick drawings in the movie were within an R Rating because they weren't pornographic. If they were it would probably have made it a NC-17 or not even released. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 17:48, 6 July 2009 (BST)

Not misconduct bad faith abuse of sops power? Nope. Personal opinion. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:50, 6 July 2009 (BST)

You just answered your own question. He used a conflicting opinion to go against the will of the community with his powers, i.e. misconduct.--SirArgo Talk 18:11, 6 July 2009 (BST)

Can someone tell me the purpose why regular users are allowed to vote on deletions? I'm mean, more then 3/4 of voters voted "keep", but apparently sysops can still say fuck democracy and push their opinion down community's throat. Why is the opinion of the community asked, when it's going to be ignored in the end? --Thadeous Oakley 17:59, 6 July 2009 (BST)

UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct/Archive/Nubis/2009#26_March Linkthewindow  Talk  18:06, 6 July 2009 (BST)
You can't give me a clear answer, eh?--Thadeous Oakley 18:13, 6 July 2009 (BST)

How is this not misconduct? The community said keep them, but you still deleted them. I don't see how in the hell that is pornography, just a stupid drawing. OH NOEZ ITS A LINE PENIZ!!!! I mean come on.--SirArgo Talk 18:06, 6 July 2009 (BST)

I have to agree with Thad here, Why ask for our opinion when they're just gonna ignore it?... Would posting my revolution template here be vandalism?--Imthatguy 18:14, 6 July 2009 (BST)
I wouldn't do that if I were you, you have already got a warning for spamming it. Templates should remain on user/group pages as much possible not in the admin sections.--Thadeous Oakley 18:16, 6 July 2009 (BST)
Not to go off topic, but your template does nothing. Not even people who dislikes the sysops seem to like it. And it's not the way you change stuff. We have already had a coup here and it was just a big facepalm.--SirArgo Talk 18:21, 6 July 2009 (BST)
Which is why I put it up for deletions, instead of just deleting it outright (which I would have done if it was obvious porn.) Linkthewindow  Talk  18:08, 6 July 2009 (BST)

Keep votes outnumber delete from 10 to 4, and the request wasnt supposed to be proccessed until July 12. Even a sysop was among the keep voters. How come this isnt misconduct ? --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 19:36, 6 July 2009 (BST)

Because the community doesn't know what it wants. They think that "less red tape" sounds like a great idea, until something comes up where they want sysops constrained by red tape -- boxy talkteh rulz 22:27 6 July 2009 (BST)
To A/PD it is then. Linkthewindow  Talk  02:49, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Misconduct - Crude knob drawings which could have been done by a 12 year old do not make my definition of porn. On top of that, one sysops opinion does not overrule the communities opinion. -- Cheese 19:40, 6 July 2009 (BST)

Not misconduct - sysops were given the right to decide, unilaterally, what is and is not pornographic, and remove it from the wiki on sight. The fact that the scheduled deletion is not working means that it should be removed. I've only seen it used twice, and both times the sysop involved was taken to misconduct -- boxy talkteh rulz 22:27 6 July 2009 (BST)

Not Misconduct - as everyone else yadda yadda yadda. If SA, or any one of us thought those images were pornographic then out they go. I personally don't think they cross the line but I can see how someone could think otherwise.--Cyberbob 23:11, 6 July 2009 (BST)

Misconduct - As Sonny, I was going to cite the definition of Pornography but Sonny got there first. SA had a right to delete pornographic images which find themselves in that grey area, but there really has to be a line that's drawn, which stops sysops from just going too far on that definition of porn. The pornography clause of Scheduled Deletions is supposed to protect the community, and the community has already expressed through the vote that they don't believe this is pornography. Seriously, deleting a line penis because it is pornographic? Give me a break. If SA's criteria of "penor shooting stuffs" is reason, then why don't I just head over to PA Rebel Alliance and have at that? A 4 year old beauty, oh, my, this one even has colourised semen. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:33, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Undecided - DDR did bring up a good point, If no penis line drawings are allowed, then you absolutly have to take down that image, and tons of other photos. HOWEVER, Some of the buildings names in urban dead have a sexual reffrence to them, "mycock building" I think this is a grey line. HOWEVER, a penis is a penis, and kids play this game, so lets be honest, there are tons of places on the internet to put doodles of a penis, the wiki is not one of them.--Bonghit420 01:54, 7 July 2009 (BST)

one such image is actually a GIF of bouncing titties! I mean, im all for bouncing titties, but if you can't let the ladies have a line drawing penis, then us men should be neglected the titties.--Bonghit420 02:01, 7 July 2009 (BST)
Stop with this Bonghit, these rulings are sysops only. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:15, 7 July 2009 (BST)
Trying to silence the masses eh?--Imthatguy 02:25, 7 July 2009 (BST)
OK, fess up. Who are you an alt of? --Cyberbob 02:38, 7 July 2009 (BST)
????? ive been on the wiki for about 6 months or so, im no ones puppet --Imthatguy 02:40, 7 July 2009 (BST)
You retard, only sysops can rule on misconduct cases. And yeah bob, he's been around for 9 months and made <200 edits. A true martyr for his cause of saving this wiki. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:47, 7 July 2009 (BST)
Ouch.... you dont wanna be up for misconduct next, do you?--Imthatguy 02:49, 7 July 2009 (BST)