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#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
#Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].
#A nomination should be made on [[Category talk:Historical Groups]].
#Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are '''Yea''' and '''Nay'''.
#Voting will last for exactly two weeks following nomination. To be successful, a group must be approved by 2/3 of eligible voters to pass. A minimum of 15 votes must be cast for the vote to be valid. The only allowable votes are '''Yes''' and '''No'''.
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
#Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
#Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
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When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.
When nominating a group, please add a note to [[Template:Wiki News]] and add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalGroupVoting}}</nowiki>}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{HistoricalVotingRules}}</nowiki>}} under the group's application for historical status.


==New Nominations==
=New Nominations=


==[[Big Survivors Little Survivor]]==


Anyway, as unlikely to succeed as it is, I'd like to nominate [[Big Survivors Little Survivor]] for Historical status.


You probably have no idea who they were. It's unsurprising.
==Recent Nominations==


To Paraphrase.
==[[East Becktown Defenders]]==
 
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*'''BSLS''' were the first group of any description to be created in [[Borehamwood]].
The East Becktown Defenders officially disbanded on [[EBD/Epitaph|May 1st, 2020]], which makes them eligible for Historical Group status.
 
The EBD had been active since 2016, and included dozens of members, including both veterans and entire newbies. They maintained good relationships with survivor groups (including, but not limited to the DHPD, SoC, Knights Templar and the DEM) and zombie groups (specifically the Daubeney Resident Zombies next door, and of course our favourite frenemies in the RRF).
*'''BSLS''' members hold the records for both "largest survived suicide repair in a perma death city." (350ap)  and "largest suicide repair ever attempted" [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Image:529_Repair_cost.PNG (529ap)]
Aside from regular survivor-style operations, they also brought a fun, no-pressure approach to the game, along with [[East_Becktown_Defenders/Tools|wiki-tools]] (like the automatic SitRep on their group page) and weird events (like the [[EBD_Stat_Party_2016|EBD StatParty]]).
 
The group decided not to fade away like many others, but officially disbanded after exactly 4 years of activity.
*'''BSLS''' were the largest organised survivor group, before the meta combined all survivor groups into a single lump.
 
*'''BSLS''' helped implement the standardised 28.06 radio channel throughout borehamwood alongside [[Galaxy News Radio]]
 
*'''BSLS''' helped in the hunt for [[Game Over]] actively tracking Borehamwood's only publicised PK'er group. In the end we managed to wipe out their two leaders, whilst other survivors finished the job.
 
*'''BSLS''' had Borehamwood's only international celebrity, namely [http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1387761| Dermot O'leary]. Famed throughout the city for his habit of suicide repairs without telling anyone.
 
*'''BSLS''' made up 5% of [[The Borehamwood 100]].  
 
So what? I here you say. Did the BSLS do anything game changing or unique? Well I believe they did.  


*'''BSLS''' helped discover, understand and fix the single most game breaking error in Urban Dead history, namely the free repair of all buildings with a repair cost of more than 150ap. Rather than exploit a bug that could of led to the reclamation of the entire ruined city in only a month and against the advice of some radical survivors, the Little Survivor's suspended all repairs, and [[User_talk:Kevan#Huge_Ruin_bug_could_leave_the_whole_of_Borehamwood_caded_in_less_than_a_month.|tried to stop the game from massively screwing zombies]]. As one member commented. "We've stayed ahead of the zombies so far, we don't need this."
=== Yes ===


And on a slightly more annoying note,
# '''Yes''' -  {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 13:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Clayton Carmine|Clayton Carmine]] ([[User talk:Clayton Carmine|talk]]) 13:38, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:MicoolTNT|MicoolTNT]] 13:57, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - {{User:Stelar/sig}} 14:00, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Roddy Winters|Roddy Winters]] ([[User talk:Roddy Winters|talk]]) 17:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Matt Langley|Matt Langley]] ([[User talk:Matt Langley|talk]]) 18:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Tarkenton|Tarkenton]] ([[User talk:Tarkenton|talk]]) 20:33, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 23:17, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Simcoe|Simcoe]] 07:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Yo Ris|Yo Ris]] ([[User talk:Yo Ris|talk]]) 07:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:RaiNo|RaiNo]] 10:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Frank Burn|Frank Burn]] ([[User talk:Frank Burn|talk]]) 13:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' -  [[User:DoXBr|DoXBr]] ([[User talk:DoXBr|talk]]) 14:19, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - [[User:Richardskull16|Richardskull16]] ([[User talk:Richardskull16|talk]]) 09:25, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - The Malton Globetrotters turbodunk the ayes! --{{User:Dragonshardz/dragonshardz}} {{Goonsig|Dragonshardz}} 00:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' - {{User:Benigno/sig}} 16:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)


*'''BSLS''' were finally wiped out when [[User:Rosslessness]] requested Kevan bring snow to Urban dead. Less than a day later the last of the group was devoured by a feral who simply followed their footprints.  
=== No ===
#I was going to go with “Who?” but [[Talk:East_Becktown_Defenders#Your_page|apparently we’ve spoken]]. As they did not fix their page in the entire 4 years they spent as a group, I cannot in good conscience vote for this group to be historical. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} {{Goonsig|Revenant}} 16:13, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
#From what I see is a run-of-the-mill survivor group engaged in standard survivor play of maintaining a particular area. It was not innovative (like MCM or 404 were), it didn't have a distinctive style (like for example B.A.R. or ULC would have), nor was it involved in significant events (like Escape or c4NT were). --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 20:34, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
#As Spiderzed. Groups that had some members, did some things, and had a central pitch of being "well liked" didn't classify as historical when Urban Dead was bigger. I don't believe that should change for groups that existed during UD's [[Survivor-Zombie_Imbalance#7|long tail]]. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 05:55, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
#As Spiderzed. --[[User:Papa John Schnatter|Papa John Schnatter]] ([[User talk:Papa John Schnatter|talk]]) 17:25, 25 August 2022 (UTC)


Which is why you now get....
With voting well and truly finished, the East Becktown Defenders have become a '''historical group'''. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 07:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 
*Although it's freezing in [[Monroeville]] and [[Borehamwood]], the snow isn't heavy enough to leave footprints there.
 
So there you go. I look forward to your, "WWWHHOOOOOOO?" comments. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:38, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
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====Yes====
# '''Yes''' Obviously. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:40, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
# '''Yes''' but maybe have subcategories for the different cities. -[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 17:42, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#:If there was more than one, then yes. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:55, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#::I see. Cross that bridge when you have more than one in Borehamwood/Monroeville?-[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 18:00, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#I could vouch for this. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 17:44, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
# Who?--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 17:46, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#:You placed your vote in the wrong space >:P --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 17:51, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#:: I do know who they are, but Ross said he was looking foreward to who comments :P --{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 19:16, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - Have missed Borehamwood, but even I have heard of some of their accomplishments before. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 17:52, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Aye''' - Who? Usually when I say who I go "Nay" but not here. Their accomplishments are quite impressive. I didn't play in Borehamwood, so I can't blame the group for not being known to me. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 18:06, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - may as well. <small>BTW Dermot's wasn't Borehamwood's only celeb [[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1387595]]</small> --{{User:Lady Clitoria/Sig}} 19:15, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#What you mean it isn't historical yet? Something died inside me when I didn't get to kill Dermot--which feels well funny when you're already very dead. Make it so. And add the Monroeville Many, while you're at it. --{{User:Hashk/sig}} 19:34, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#They were a seriously important group - I've heard alot about them, and I did very little in Borehamwood.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 20:21, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''yes''' but Zombie Davina does not approve of anyone else eating Dermot! --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 21:21, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - It's a bit of a case of a big fish in a small pond type of situation, as I see it. They might not have been anything special had they been in Malton, but in B-wood, they stood out from what I've heard, and really shaped and defined that city. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:26, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' - BSLS are one of the few non-Malton groups to have had a significant impact on the wider game, and are responsible for one of the game's few truly iconic characters, too. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 21:53, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' as Thad. I didn't get into borehamwood, but those are impressive accomplishments. (maybe not so if they were in malton, but they weren't) --<span style="background:black; font-variant:small-caps">[[User:Thanatologist|<span style="color:gold">†hana†ologis†</span>]] [[User talk:Thanatologist|<span style="color:gold">(talk)</span>]]</span> 02:33, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Yes''' even if I didn't grab Dermot's sig when I had the chance.--{{User:ZIPO/sig}} 05:48, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
#Pretty much as Aich. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 14:27, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 
====No====
#'''Meh''' - Being the first group in the city, if true, would be worthy if there were some separate category for borehamwood, but the rest looks like padding the resume - finding a bug, doing survivor things like working with other groups and repairing buildings, getting killed when zombies found the last member, etc.  This isn't to diminish the fun they had playing or the significance of the group in their own context, mainly I just can't get excited enough about a borehamwood group to put them on par with the historical entries from the main game.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 18:24, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
#ah'''NO''' - it pains me to agree with giles.----[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">sexualharrison</span>]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] ¯\([[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]])/¯ 02:37, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
#:Love you too sexy ;) --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 14:29, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 
==Recent Nominations==
*[[Category talk:Historical Groups/FailedArchive#The Grove|The Grove]] - '''Failed'''
*[[Category talk:Historical Groups/FailedArchive#The Penny Heights OGs|The Penny Heights OGs]] - '''Failed'''
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#Ackland_Abattoir|Ackland Abattoir]] - '''Failed'''
*[[Category_talk:Historical_Groups/FailedArchive#PTT|PTT]] - '''Failed'''


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Latest revision as of 00:12, 8 September 2022

Obtaining Historical Status

A policy is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.

  1. Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
  2. A nomination should be made on Category talk:Historical Groups.
  3. Voting will last for exactly two weeks following nomination. To be successful, a group must be approved by 2/3 of eligible voters to pass. A minimum of 15 votes must be cast for the vote to be valid. The only allowable votes are Yes and No.
  4. Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
  5. Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
  6. Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for Malton-based groups)


Nominations for Historical Status

When nominating a group, please add a note to Template:Wiki News and add {{HistoricalGroupVoting}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{HistoricalVotingRules}} under the group's application for historical status.

New Nominations

Recent Nominations

East Becktown Defenders

Voting Rules
Votes must be numbered, signed, and timestamped. They can take one of two forms:
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Votes that do not conform to the above will be struck by a moderator.

The only valid voting sections are Yes and No. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.

The East Becktown Defenders officially disbanded on May 1st, 2020, which makes them eligible for Historical Group status. The EBD had been active since 2016, and included dozens of members, including both veterans and entire newbies. They maintained good relationships with survivor groups (including, but not limited to the DHPD, SoC, Knights Templar and the DEM) and zombie groups (specifically the Daubeney Resident Zombies next door, and of course our favourite frenemies in the RRF). Aside from regular survivor-style operations, they also brought a fun, no-pressure approach to the game, along with wiki-tools (like the automatic SitRep on their group page) and weird events (like the EBD StatParty). The group decided not to fade away like many others, but officially disbanded after exactly 4 years of activity.

Yes

  1. Yes - PB&J 13:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  2. Yes - Clayton Carmine (talk) 13:38, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  3. Yes - MicoolTNT 13:57, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  4. Yes - stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 14:00, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  5. Yes - Roddy Winters (talk) 17:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  6. Yes - Matt Langley (talk) 18:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  7. Yes - Tarkenton (talk) 20:33, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  8. Yes - Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 23:17, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  9. Yes - Simcoe 07:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  10. Yes - Yo Ris (talk) 07:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  11. Yes - RaiNo 10:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  12. Yes - Frank Burn (talk) 13:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  13. Yes - DoXBr (talk) 14:19, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  14. Yes - Richardskull16 (talk) 09:25, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  15. Yes - The Malton Globetrotters turbodunk the ayes! --【ⅎooɹd ǝʌɐɥ ᴉ sʇɐoƃ sʍoʅʚ ⅎǝᴉɹɔuoɯ uǝɹɐʞ】 ☉ We're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop us ☉ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 00:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  16. Yes - Benigno SSZ RCC 16:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

No

  1. I was going to go with “Who?” but apparently we’ve spoken. As they did not fix their page in the entire 4 years they spent as a group, I cannot in good conscience vote for this group to be historical. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 16:13, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  2. From what I see is a run-of-the-mill survivor group engaged in standard survivor play of maintaining a particular area. It was not innovative (like MCM or 404 were), it didn't have a distinctive style (like for example B.A.R. or ULC would have), nor was it involved in significant events (like Escape or c4NT were). -- Spiderzed▋ 20:34, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  3. As Spiderzed. Groups that had some members, did some things, and had a central pitch of being "well liked" didn't classify as historical when Urban Dead was bigger. I don't believe that should change for groups that existed during UD's long tail. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 05:55, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  4. As Spiderzed. --Papa John Schnatter (talk) 17:25, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

With voting well and truly finished, the East Becktown Defenders have become a historical group. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 07:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

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