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Developing Suggestions
This section is for general discussion of suggestions for the game Urban Dead.
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- Name - Give the suggestion a short but descriptive name.
- Type is the nature of the suggestion, such as a new class, skill change, balance change.
- Scope is who or what the suggestion affects. Typically survivors or zombies (or both), but occasionally Malton, the game interface or something else.
- Description should be a full explanation of your suggestion. Include information like flavor text, search odds, hit percentages, etc, as appropriate. Unless you are as yet unsure of the exact details behind the suggestion, try not to leave out anything important. Check your spelling and grammar.
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Suggestions
Heal Over Time
| Timestamp: -- boxy talk • teh rulz 09:56, 12 February 2011 (UTC) | ||
| Type: Healing change | ||
| Scope: Application of FAKs | ||
| Description: At the moment, First Aid Kits (FAKs) are a powerful tool for survivors in real time combat situations. If there is a survivor online with a full load of FAKs, there is no way that a single zombie can kill any survivor in that location (unless the online survivor is inattentive). All they need to do is continue to apply FAKs to the target survivor (even themselves) when they get anywhere near death. A zombie has no chance to keep up with the healing.
This suggestion would change the application of FAKs to limit the healing that can be done immediately. Multiple FAKs can still be applied, however only 5 HP (10 with First Aid, 15 with surgery in a hospital) will be added initially, and 1 HP each half hour (on the AP tick) thereafter. On the UD screen, a healing survivor would show as below.
Each FAK applied will still only cost 1 AP, and have the potential to heal the same amount of damage (depending on the skill level of the healer). Survivors with diagnosis would still be able to tell how much health a survivor had, and in addition, how many HP were yet to be added over time due to already applied FAKs. The colour coding on injured survivors would instead be applied to survivors who still needed FAKs to heal completely (not just those who were in the process of healing, and only needed time). FAKs couldn't be applied to survivors who already had enough healing potential to fully restore them (over time). Infections are only cured at the time an FAK is applied. If a surviver is bitten while in the process of healing, the HP will continue to be added, but the infection will remain unless another FAK is applied. If the survivor dies before all HP has been applied, that HP is lost, and he stands up as normal, as a zombie with full HP. I'm unsure as to whether to apply the same rules to zombies... the way I play zombies, FAK healing is inconsequencial. Unsure if it's different for different styles of play. |
Discussion (Heal Over Time)
Previous discussion that inspired this suggestion -- boxy talk • teh rulz 09:56 12 February 2011 (BST)
Am I right in understanding that no matter your skill level with FAKs you intially get 5HP and the remainder (if any; +5 for First Aid, +10 for Surgery) is applied over time? It's just that I found the description above a little unclear. - User:Whitehouse 13:05, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- I know, I'm finding it hard to explain it without making it TL;DR. No, the initial healing will be dependant on the skill of the healer. If they have surgery, and are in a powered hospital, the initial healing will still be 15HP, but further heals will only happen over time (ie. the second (15HP) FAK applied will take 7.5 hours to take full effect -- boxy talk • teh rulz 07:08 13 February 2011 (BST)
- E.g. I FAK a survivor, they gain 15hp, but any further FAKs I give them heal over time rather than as a one off payment?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 09:44, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- From the discussion Boxy linked to:
- E.g. I FAK a survivor, they gain 15hp, but any further FAKs I give them heal over time rather than as a one off payment?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 09:44, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
| Boxy said: |
| I think and appropriate change would be that there is a limit to how much healing can be done to one player in each half hour (AP regen) period. You can still apply FAKs, but the healing wouldn't take affect until the next AP tick. This would mean that survivors couldn't heal quicker than a zombie can attack. Nothing lamer than watching the survivor you are attacking miraculously gain full health in the time it takes you to claw at him a couple of times |
- --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 14:45, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Ah right. So what resets the ability for the first FAK to instant heal? Attaining full health? - User:Whitehouse 14:27, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
This is fucking genius. ----Anarchomutualist says: The state is war, ⓐnarchy is order. 04:42, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Fantastic idea, awful execution. Rather than have it be based on the second and subsequent FAKS, use initial health as your marker. Survivors with 45HP or more can be instantly healed for whatever the relvant amout is, survivors below that will heal at 1HP per AP tick, and survivors at 12HP or less will heal at 1HP per hour. Idea is that the more hurt you are, the more it takes to recover, plus it means that it can be caclulated and kept track of much more easily. If a survivor is healing to a point where they will reach full HP with no interference, attempting to use an FAK on them should bring up a message along the lines of XXX is recovering well and not use your FAK. 
19:07, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- That's a good way to simplify it. However, you'd still have the same problem (survivors healing much faster than you can attack) with 45+HP targets -- boxy talk • teh rulz 01:46 14 February 2011 (BST)
- It works as a thematic parallel to Beachhead Tactics - once the initial breach is big enough, the job gets easier from there. 01:50, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- It works as a thematic parallel to Beachhead Tactics - once the initial breach is big enough, the job gets easier from there.
Inventory organisation
| Timestamp: Ashizard 18:07, 9 February 2011 (UTC) |
| Type: inventory |
| Scope: survivors |
| Description: I think it would help if you had the option to drag and drop where you wanted particular items in your inventory to stay, grouping all offensive weapons together or FAK's etc
thoughts? |
Discussion (Inventory organisation)
Peer Reviewed, Dupe, Dupe, Dupe, Dupe, Dupe, Dupe, and Greasemonkey Script. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 18:26, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Bull Rush
| Timestamp: Feb. 10, 2011 |
| Type: New Zombie Hunter Skill |
| Scope: Survivors |
| Description: So, I was thinking. There is only one zombie hunter skill. So much potential to add to that. One thing I was thinking about is the survivor being able to charge and "push" a zombie out of the building. The zombie has to be less than 13 hp and the door has to be left wide open. Its sort of like Feeding drag, except the survivor is pushing the zombie out of the building. Whether the survivor has to go out in the street with the zombie or not is open to discussion.
This might be useful if there is a large break and you desperately need to get zombies out of the building to decrease their numbers. |
Discussion (Bull Rush)
Put a limit on a minimum number of zombies present before it can be used and I'm for it. If it can be used on lone ferals it's really overpowered, but as a tool versus hordes it should be alright. Just make it exactly the same as feeding drag (<13HP, door open), only versus zombies. Probably keep the survivor inside, but maybe bring them outside too? Like a rugby tackle. Maybe minimum five zombies present before it can be used? 18:20, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Maybe the limit should be for zeds inside AND outside. Not trying to make it OP, just to make it a decent counter to the beachhead tactic —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Laffayette (talk • contribs) 18:34, 8 February 2011.
How does one tell how much HP a zed has left without first attacking them? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 18:29, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
I'd support this if it was somewhat limited (as Mis said). Perhaps a 50% chance of success, but obviously accounting for the same conditions for feeding drag. Flavour-wise, it could be explained by the strength of a zombie as opposed to a regular survivor.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:05, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- I like Yonnua's add-on. But maybe make it possible on any number of zombies just less effective on lower numbers. Explanation could be that with fewer zombies it's easier for them to dodge your rush? Anyways balance is balance logical or not. Possibly do it as 1-5 zombies have a 30% chance 6-10 zombies have a 40% and 11 or more zombies have a 51% chance. Also just a thought if you fail on pushing a zombie out you take some health damage. Which could also depend on zombie numbers, not sure on the numbers that'd be fair but if you succeed the zombie also has to stand back up outside. 00:35, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Variable percentage might work (like cadeblocking, but in reverse), but health damage and forcing the zombie to stand up are a bit sketchy, imo.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 08:30, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well charging into a crowd of zombies wouldn't end well in a real world zombie apocalypse but there wouldn't be a limitless source of generators either.. In any case. I'd say adding a tad bit of risk to doing it is fair. The standing up is just a thought, possibly have it so only 5AP without ankle grab is spent and 1 AP with ankle grab? As it's not quite as damaging for a zombie as getting shot to death. 04:29, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- Cool. It looks like this is getting support. I'm all for the percent being low with fewer zombies and increasing with zombie hordes. So, now what happens?
- Variable percentage might work (like cadeblocking, but in reverse), but health damage and forcing the zombie to stand up are a bit sketchy, imo.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 08:30, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Sleep
| Timestamp: --Scvideoking 22:47, 6 February 2011 (UTC)scvideoking |
| Type: Tweak |
| Scope: Survivors |
| Description:A new in-game concept where it would take a lot of work but hear me out.A new button would appear at all locations.When asleep a survivor gains 1 AP per 15 minutes,but they get the same screen for when they run out of AP.there would be a button saying wake up instead of being able to do nothing.They are easier to hit by anyone.
-When in a building the description would list people asleep EX:Urbandead,Bob,sally,and tom are all asleep in various places of the building. These players would have an extra 20% chance to get attacked by all other urbandead players. what do you think? may be a dupe and my extreme and most sincere apoliges to the disscussion below me for necrotech adrenaline shots I didnt mean to delete you post |
Discussion (Sleep)
Tinkering with APs is generally a bad idea. Also, this one would only help survivors, and would always be the best option unless you sleeping in a mall with a lot of PKers running around or in immediate danger of being overwhelmed by zombies. -- Spiderzed▋ 23:57, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Peer Reviewed Dupe. Also, I fixed your accidental deletion of the suggestion at the bottom. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 00:07, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Sleep is already a function of the game. Survivors with 0 AP are asleep. Read the game text again. 13:20, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
NecroTech adrenaline shot
| Timestamp: BlackDragon2026 22:11, 6 February 2011 (UTC) |
| Type: new item |
| Scope: survivors |
| Description: Another product created by NecroTech, this needle contains chemicals, hormones, and other fun stuff that opens up different synapses, and gives the user 5 AP's. However,each use of the shot degraded the persons health( -5 HP) and when it was discovered that overuse could lead to death, the FDA insisted that NecroTech install a simple blood reader on all adrenaline shots. The blood reader will see if the user has taken the shot in the last 12 hours, if so, then the item will not allow the shot to be administrated to the user. |
Discussion (NecroTech adrenaline shot)
Why do people never think of death-cultists when they propose health degradation as trade-off for AP boosts? Cultists want less health and moar APs all at the same time. -- Spiderzed▋ 23:55, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Rejected and possible Dupe. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:58, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Explain why the FDA are tinkering with English products. 13:21, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Suggestions up for voting
The following are suggestions that were developed here but have since gone to voting. The discussions that were taking place here have been moved to the pages linked below.
No suggestions from here are currently up for voting.
