Suggestion:20070816 Rifle

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20070816 Rifle

Medico 02:39, 16 August 2007 (BST)

Suggestion type
New Weapon and New Associated Skills

Suggestion scope
Survivors.

Suggestion description
"Oh lord" you're probably saying "Another rifle!" Well hear me out. I know that generally the problem with rifles is that they have overwhelming power or ammo count or accuracy, but not so here.

The rifle has a 5 round magazine capacity, which is what most rifles have these days. The rounds are found and inserted individually so as to not overcompensate with the ammo. The damage it does should be 8 damage without armor and 6 with. This places it between the large magazine of the handgun with low power and the low magazine capacity of the shotgun with massive damage. In terms of roleplaying it also works because handguns are weak with a small cartridge and barrel while shotguns are hard hitting with a fairly long barrel and majority powder shells.

In terms of accuracy it would be slightly different to the other weapons as rifles have been the staple of hunters for years for a reason. It has a long, rifled barrel allowing for greater control and spin on the bullet. The changes wouldn't be drastic but worth the roleplay.

Accuracy

Base: 10% Chance to hit

Basic Firearms training: 35% Chance to hit

Rifle Training: 60% Chance to hit

Sniper training: 70% Chance to hit

Chance to find Mall Gun Stores: 3%/5%, Armories: 4%, Police Departments: 2% (Maybe add SWAT lockers to a limited few because most police don't have rifles)

Thanks for actually reading

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Keep Votes

1. Author vote --Medico 02:40, 16 August 2007 (BST)
   • could work. Rifles need a higher encumbrance level than the shotty, that would level them and make it impossible for people to carry 9.000 rifles in their trenchcoats. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 02:55, 16 August 2007 (BST) Changing vote to kill after some math. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 03:02, 16 August 2007 (BST)

Kill Votes

1. did some math in here. Even if rifles were at 10% ENC one would be able to make ~250 points of DMG against a group of flakked survivors/zmobies. No way. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 03:02, 16 August 2007 (BST)
2. Hagnat- you can do better than this already, with just shotguns and pistols. The Rifle would just clog up searches, and has a very low MBR. No point in adding it, as it gives no new ability and just slows things up.  Swiers 03:07, 16 August 2007 (BST)
3. Your forgot the search % for the ammo.--Pesatyel 05:22, 16 August 2007 (BST)
4. Kill - No. --The Hierophant 07:17, 16 August 2007 (BST)
5. Kill - oh Lord. No more rifles. Why don't we implement the Kalashnikov as a rifle, instead some unreliable rifle?--  Savant  Chit-Chat  20:38, 16 August 2007 (BST)
6. Kill - I think it's unfair to those who use handguns. --  P02 Samuel  Talk to me! Stop that asshole!PoleCats 13:49, 17 August 2007 (BST)

Spam/Dupe Votes

• {{{1}}} Gibberish struck The preceding signed comment was added by boxy (talk • contribs) at 13:43 16 August 2007 (BST)

1. Dupe - One got into undecided not to long ago.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 02:51, 16 August 2007 (BST)
2. Spupe - yep, another spamtastic dupe. As well as the example above, this was in Peer Rejected. So much is smamworthy about this suggestion, but what really got me was the use of the word "sniper". -- Pavluk 03:06, 16 August 2007 (BST)
3. Soup - Not like! --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:25, 16 August 2007 (BST)
4. Spam - There have been so many rifle suggestions, and this one's not very different. --Howard Bentley 04:31, 16 August 2007 (BST)
5. Oh Lord another Rifle -- FriedFish.ca 04:39, 16 August 2007 (BST)
6. Spam - sorry, but game doesn't need more new weapons --~~~~_T^''' 07:47, 16 August 2007 (BST)
7. Spam - Frequently Suggested#Military Weaponry. I rest my case. --Anotherpongo 08:56, 16 August 2007 (BST)
8. Dupe - A rifle is a rifle is a rifle. See Frequently_Suggested#The_List. --  T   09:02, 16 August 2007 (BST)
9. Spam - Its still a gun which we don't need. --Marie^{The Grove on Tour} 13:30, 16 August 2007 (BST)
10. Spam - Enough weapons The preceding signed comment was added by boxy (talk • contribs) at 13:43 16 August 2007 (BST)
11. Spam - No more weapons! --Saluton 15:55, 16 August 2007 (BST)
12. Spam - No more weapons! Finding 20 shotguns while looking for pistols is bad enough! DUPE! SPAM!--Wooty 18:15, 16 August 2007 (BST)
13. I Spam it with my Rocket Launcher --The Grimch ^Mod-U! 18:32, 16 August 2007 (BST)
14. Spam Read the frequently suggested first --Timo 1 22:58, 16 August 2007 (BST)
15. Double Spam with a side of Dupe - Spam number 1 is for suggesting a rifle. Spam number 2 is for using the word "sniper." The Dupe is for all the rifle suggestions that have come before it. Too bad it didn't include the words "martial arts" or "katana." --Steakfish 00:31, 17 August 2007 (BST)