User:Gardenator/WakeUpDead

Wake Up Dead

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LABIA on the INTERNET

^{Dunell Hills Corpseman}

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Type: Game Balance

Scope: Players

Description: In short, if a player character idles out, if the account is logged into, their state is that of a dead body. This is great, as it doesn't make sense for someones character to stop moving for 10 years and suddenly come back to life with full gear with no penalty. Try it, stop moving for 10 years and see if you are dead or not.

Zombies and Surviors would both get a message, something like "You slumber into unconsciousness and die." Then there is a box saying "Stand up"

10 years is just an example, whatever the idle flag is (I think it's 30 days) would make sense.

Discussion (Wake Up Dead)

Ap cost would be the default, affected by the ankle grab skill.-- LABIA on the INTERNET ^{Dunell Hills Corpseman} #24 - |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ^TMG 02:52, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

I do agree that waking up alive after 10 years is somewhat unrealistic. I'm on Tumblr, and the Urban Dead tag there is full of people saying "I logged back in after ten years, and I'm still alive!" Clearly either they don't understand the idling-out mechanic, or are commenting on this very issue about it. However, in many parts of the city, 30 days is not a difficult time to survive, given how safe/calm much of Malton is these days.

My only other concern is that most survivor players idle out inside buildings, and thus this would be exploitable for piñata-ing purposes (kind of like a zombie equivalent to Big Game Ruin Hunting in that zombies can use a large amount of "AP" (30 days' worth wasted) to reach the threshold, then log in dead inside a building and piñata it. (This would also be true of unintentional idle-outs, but I expect most survivor players logging in after a long time wouldn't immediately piñata wherever they are.) Maybe 30 days is too short to prevent this exploit, or maybe the exploit is a feature rather than a bug. Let me know your thoughts. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 10:20, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Bob's point is a really good reason for more tweaks. Perhaps have them wake up dead and outside? A ZOMBIE ANT 12:45, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

It is some concern that a zombie could wake up into a building and attempt to ruin it. A lone zombie would have difficulty doing this to a populated room, not to mention the odds are probably even that the building is EHB. I recently had one of my zombies break into a NT building, where there were two survivors inside. I was unable to kill any, as I had almost no Ap. Over the next two days or so, I would log in and attempt to kill the survivors and was unsuccessful. Stored Ap in the form of items is extremely powerful in this game.

That said, I was assuming the death mechanic would create a dead body for X amount of days. This would enable normal interactions with that dead body, including the ability to dump it outside.--

LABIA on the INTERNET

^{Dunell Hills Corpseman}

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That said, I have no problem with dead bodies automatically dumped to the outside of buildings. Either way is fine. I was thinking of older suggestions that were seen as "too complicated to code" or "taxing on the server".--

LABIA on the INTERNET

^{Dunell Hills Corpseman}

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Maybe an option is that when the person logs back in, the game would check if the building is ruined and if so, they wake up dead? (Or if they idled out outdoors.) Would mean the suggestion would only apply about a quarter (?) of the time, though, given the citywide proportion of ruined buildings. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 12:46, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Are we pretending that this game is going to see any changes ever again? --Ɛňvϊoцᵴ (talk) 00:10, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Yes. --

LABIA on the INTERNET

^{Dunell Hills Corpseman}

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|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ^TMG 07:55, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

"I'm opposed to change because change will never happen" is the attitude I most dislike on this wiki. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 12:19, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Meh. It’s not like anyone actually has to eat any more. Like it says in the FAQ, any character that hasn't been logged in for more than five days is considered to have spent that time finding and reinforcing a place to shelter, and becomes "hidden", effectively disappearing from the game. Malton is just full of world-class hide-and-seek players. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 11:00, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

That said, this would be absolutely hilarious if applied to Monroeville and Borehamwood. “Time to log in another idled character and display my superior— oh what the shit I'm dead?!” ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ