User talk:John Cannonfodder

*wipes forehead*

Okay, welcome and thanks for visiting my brand new spot on Wiki!

Regards,

John.

Greetings John

I believe we have run acrossed each other a few times before, I am Joe Riggs of the Lockettside Boys. As far as I am aware, most the LoBo know not to over barricade. It seems to be a common problem right now since I recieved reports of the MFU jumping my members asses for it, but all of them I spoke to have told me they haven't been over barricading. But who knows, no way to prove anything. The LoBo is a small group and we are fairly scattered over Lockettside, alot of other survivors out there. Anyways, I will leave a note on the page for members to make sure they don't over barricade. What might you suggest towards a barricading plan? I have heard about there being a general plan used by many groups but never really looked into it. The MFD has been quite respectful towards our group in my opinion, haven't seen any tags covering our own and haven't had any bad reports of you guys, so I'm willing to work something out. I shall await your responce -- Riggs

Greetings Riggs, I'm sorry if any of my collegues of the MFU jumping on people's asses... sounds painful *grin* --But seriously, I believe the overbarricading is part of zeds spy tactics in the suburb, or simply random survivors who got spooked after a breach. The proposed barricading policy (well part of it anyway) is mentioned on the Lockettside discussion page... For any discussions about more sensitive info, I invite you to come to the DEM forum and send me a pm... Regards, --John Cannonfodder 15:57, 9 August 2006 (BST)

Zombie?

Exactly how seriously do you play evil fodder as a zombie? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 18:15, 9 August 2006 (BST)

Heheh, the easy way: first I max out my human skills and blow away zeds without having to consider healing people or barricading... Now I'm going to switch sides soon and get in touch with my inner zombie... It's a selfish way to play but, well heck, I don't care. I'll never take brain rot as I'd like to keep some sort of Jeckyll & Hyde thing going... If, say, a large mob is overrunning the suburb, I'll help out the survivors untill I decide to go suicide... Then I'm on the other side. As I will not attatch Evil Fodder to a group, playing both sides shouldn't be a problem.--John Cannonfodder 18:29, 9 August 2006 (BST)

If there was a group that would have absolutely no problems with your philosophy, would you join it? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 18:37, 9 August 2006 (BST)

Thank you for the offer, but sorry, as my main character is already a member of the MFD, it would be inappropriate IMO to have alts join other groups... It would be too easy to abuse information from the 'other' side, whether zombie or human. --John Cannonfodder 18:49, 9 August 2006 (BST)

LoBo

I have read your statement on the Lockettside discussion page, and to keep the peace between our two groups I will withdraw the comment. Though, if my people are attacked we will take action. There is a difference in Player Killing random people for no reason and take retribution for actions taken against us. If someone feels need to punish my member who happened to action, please let me suffer the punishment over him, it was my order to the group and he was simply being loyal. Thank you for the support of the MFD, I look forward to further working with you, John, aswell as any other members located in Lockettside. -- Riggs

Someone in the Kleptocracy went onto the Lockettside page and deleted the MFD, LoBo, and JG links on the page and replaced it with Kleptocracy. I didn't report them, just left a message on their wiki. May want to keep an eye on your pages, just incase they decide to target your wikis aswell. -- Riggs

Thank you Riggs, you don't know how relieved I am that you're taking the high ground in this bizar situation... If somebody indeed kills one of your members, please report it in the DEM PK forum... Remember to make a screenshot of the kill and the uder ID of the PKer, and he/she will be placed in the Rogues gallery. Then you will be able to kill him and collect your bounty... twice.

As for the Lockettside Boy who killed the Kleptocracy guy... if the kill has been captured with a screenshot and sent to the PK-thread, I'm afraid I can't do much... I will contact Thalarion who manages this thread and explain the situation, but that's it. The upside is that one-time PK'ing incidents are often forgiven, so you needn't worry that your guy has been branded as a PKer for life or something... *grin*

All there is left to say is that I look forward to working with you as well... From what I have seen the past two months, The Lockettside Boys have been fantastic allies! As for the tagging war with Kleptocracy, I wouldn't worry too much... Guys like this eventually get bored and move on. And as for their vandalism on the Lockettside page, the leader of Kleptocracy has been given his final warning... Good luck and regards, --John Cannonfodder 10:59, 16 August 2006 (BST)

I just wanted to quickly say thank you John for looking out for the LoBo, you have been a great help indeed. The Lockettside Boys are in your dept, my friend. Remember if you ever need anything, just ask. -- Joe Riggs 20:23, 16 August 2006 (BST)

Cades n Stuff

Great to see a DEM presence ramping up in the SW. I understand this is outside of you district but I would like your opinion on Talk:Nixbank#Nixbank_UBP. I put it together about a week ago but have not had any feedback. The place is deserted I think. JG wander in and out of there for syringes and have a dangerous Revive point set up in the SE corner. --Max Grivas ^JG,T,P! 09:21, 17 August 2006 (BST)

I posted a message at the BP discussion page of Nixbank. Looks good! What do you mean by a "dangerous" revive point btw?

In any case, thank you for your help with the Lockettside plan! It's almost finished IMO, so we're almost there... --John Cannonfodder 09:48, 17 August 2006 (BST)

By dangerous I simply mean that that is the status a couple of us chose to use on the Revivification_Point#List. We (try) to maintain two RPs one in Wykewood with a high success rate. At the other in Nixbank where those waiting often report being attacked by the local zombies. We get a lot of revives accomplished there but it is somewhat frustrating to both reviver and revive(ee) that the z in queue might as often as not be (while still a zombie) stretched out on the ground. The auto update feature of the zmmas tool picks up the Dangerous status and I think its good to set that certain excpectation to anyone waiting there. That said Nixbank has actualy been a bit easier to deal with of late but not enough for me to suggest flipping it to the Active status. --Max Grivas ^JG,T,P! 14:58, 27 August 2006 (BST)

Tagging Matters

After thoughtfully considering your thoughts on the tagging issue, I understand that most of my tags will get erased at some point; and only constant effort is it possible to keep Kleptocracy prevalent in the area. That being said, I kill zombies sometimes and sometimes I tag our slogans; I give both equal importance; both actions benefit the reputation of Kleptocracy. I'm also saddened that the Lockettside Boys took our "threats" so seriously, but that is the risk I took. Realistically there would be some level of boorish behavior following a zombie outbreak and I these actions, in good humor, are necessary for the game to continue.

With this behind in your mind, I find it important to say that Kleptocracy will tag every building it can regardless of what's on it; that is the main goal of this group. If you wish to spray over it feel free; we will spray right back. If you would prefer we only spray on the outside of buildings and the inside of buildings with no important announcements, we'd be willing to consider it further.

Good day to you sir, Bangadesh 05:55, 18 August 2006 (BST)

Thank you Bangadesh for opening a dialogue. I greatly appreciate that your group is willing to respect the important tags like those inside buildings that indicate barracade levels: this makes it far less difficult to maintain the barricading policy. All folk in Lockettside will be able to rely better on VSB-entrypoints –although random overcading can never be avoided entirely, I’m afraid.

The other tag which is extremely important is the one at the revive point at Kendall Row [26,84]: this outside tag includes the DEM revive request tool. In addition we always give outside tags with direction to the revive point in a 1-block radius around the RP.

Other than these two important tags, all is completely free-for-all tagging, as far as the MFD is concerned. We don’t want to meddle with the elements that make the game fun, and we never will… It is just a game after all, and we wouldn’t want to take things too seriously, wouldn’t we? *grin*

As for the Pking incident with the Lockettside Boys, I’m very sorry that it happened and made it very clear that the DEM condemns Pking for any reason. Riggs, the leader of the Lockettside Boys, admitted that he had overreacted and withdrew his orders/proposition to kill any members of your group. However, there is a reason for this reaction, however regrettable it may be: the Lockettside Boys built this suburb from the ground up after the Big Bash, and just when the suburb is safe again, some obscure group strolls in and starts making claims and threats… Indeed, I would feel quite ticked off myself if somebody would show their gratitude in this manner… I understand it was all in good fun, and it’s always fun to play the rebel and rock the boat a bit… Heck, otherwise the game would become quite boring! May I suggest though that, when addressing other groups, you don’t go TOO far, like deleting them from certain Wiki pages? I often find that, in cyberspace, people’s sense of humour only goes so far…

Anyway, I hope that we can clear the air and get back to having fun. Speaking of, I’m intrigued by this scheme of yours for World Domination… Regards, --John Cannonfodder 17:20, 18 August 2006 (BST)

Like most things Kleptocracy, World Domination is a joke. The original group description was purely satire.

On the matter of tagging, Kleptocracy won't tag over those spots you requested most of the time. However as I said before, our main goal is to tag every building in Malton. This includes the insides and outsides and vacant squares. If we manage to overcome The Sons of Anarchy and gain tagging dominance in Lockettside, then those squares will become a source of conflict. We will cross that bridge when we come to it, for total dominance is far away.

With regards Bangadesh 19:13, 19 August 2006 (BST)

LOL, yes, I had figured the World Domination thing wasn't a serious prediction... -note the capital letters... *grin* As for crossing bridges, make sure you don't cross 'A Bridge Too Far'... *que evil laughter* --John Cannonfodder 20:46, 19 August 2006 (BST)

Promotion to Captain

Congratulations! --Max Grivas ^{JG,T,Max4Mod,F!} 15:24, 4 September 2006 (BST)

Thanks! OMG, you REALLY pay attention to detail... Trust me, it's meant as a compliment; I'm not easily impressed, but... you could tell by the edit I made in my page? Yes, you are a mod, but sheesh... and kudos! :) --John Cannonfodder 15:39, 4 September 2006 (BST)

I'm not a mod yet but things are looking good on the promotions page. But yeah I try to keep an eye on all the goings on in the SW. --Max Grivas ^{JG,T,Max4Mod,F!} 16:03, 4 September 2006 (BST)

Troubling Matters

The Lockettside Boys and The Lockettside Defense Squad continue to assert that I PKed one of their members. I know I have done no such thing and they have yet to verify their claims. I've noticed your lack of participation in the discussion and, given the threats of survivor on survivor violence, this situation requires your attention. Bangadesh 16:16, 5 October 2006 (BST)

I have no proof that he indeed did PK anyone, but one of the Lockettside Defense Squad members does say he was a low HP and Bangadesh thought it would be fun to play a game of tag which invovled attacking other members (which he did do to me once aswell) and that attack killed the member. As far as I know there has been little threats towards him besides the usual things, figures that when the going gets tough that he comes crying to you for help. -- Joe Riggs 06:37, 6 October 2006 (BST)

I have noticed the discussions with growing concern, and was planning to attempt to help you guys out as the 'neutral Switserland guy', but Real Life and my new post covering Grigg Heights and Reganbank left me with not much time...

A PK is only a PK when it can be proven with a screenshot + the URL of the killer, when it comes to listing a person as a PKer. I'm sorry, but there's no proof it's "innocent until proven guilty". Please read the PK Reporting page for the steps to take if you are PKed or witness a Pking incident. The DEM PK reporting threadhas plenty of examples of how to report a PKing, and many people use Image Shack to upload the screenshot for free. More info on how to report a PK can be found HERE.

As much as I would like to return to Lockettside, I have other obligations. The mentioning of a "war" in the Lockettside discussion page doesn't bode well and I must side with Bangadesh in my concerns of survivor on survivor violence. Pking, for any reason whatsoever, will be condemned in the eyes of the DEM. Period. That having said, if groups like Kleptocracy! conduct themselves in a manner that other groups find offensive, they can expect hostility. If you continue to let your members tag over important notices concerning revive points or cade levels, Bangadesh, then you should expect to pay the piper. I can warn others on the consequences of taking matters into their own hands, there is only so much I can do as a third party to prevent people from resorting to PK wars. It doesn't matter if "people take the game too seriously", this is an online community and it's always wise to respect eachother's wishes -unless you actually WANT trouble.

Okay, so much for my two cents. The Lockettside Boys and the LDS are doing their best to keep a suburb safe. This is something that deserves respect. The flip side is that if any group, no matter how much they contribute to the community, resorts to PKing as a form of passing judgement or as a form of vengeance, the DEM will no longer wish to be affiliated with them. In addition, any reported Pkers will have a bounty on their head. This doesn't mean that an isolated PK incident conducted by a single member automatically results in the group being marked as a PKer group: trust me, we're not that dramatic... *grin* I do hope that we can resolve this problem by respecting eachother's gameplay... Respecting the hard work of one group on one hand, respecting the other group's wish to be rebels (without a cause?) on the other hand.

Please bear with me here: I don't want to act condescending or judgemental, I just want to help you guys out and resolve this matter... Regards, --John Cannonfodder 10:29, 6 October 2006 (BST)

Now that Bangadesh has returned to Lockettside as a self confirmed PKer (please see his wiki entry [1] and also Kleptocracy [2]) do we still need to go through the hassle of screen shots or can we just shoot him when we have seen him PKing LDS members? Regards --Fausta Gummings 13;54 3 January 2007 GMT

Hi John! In reference to the message of Fausta Gummings ( a survivor friend inside Jollife Building - LDS HQ, i wish to inform you that Bangadesh has killed Azn4life 3 times inside Jolliffe ( 25 Desember, 29 Desember & 2 January ) also has killed SgtJoeRiggs when i was inside frankland Club on 2 january.Also today 3 January Bangadesh has killed Harry Davis of LDS inside Jolliffe. I haven't the possibility of save screen image about these Pker actions and probably if i see Bangadesh i will kill him because he modified his User wiki page declaring himself as a Pker. Luck! --Tarraco 18:35, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay, here’s how it goes: if somebody captures your kill in a screenshot and adds your ID, you’re in the Rogue’s Gallery. That’s just the way it works, both for yourself and this obnoxious fellow Bangadesh.

As I'm curious and like to know how people think, including Pkers, I regularly check the Red Rum forum, among others. Not as a spy. Just the public section. After reading many threads, I can make a rather accurate guess that only 10-20% of all kills actually gets reported. Mind you, this is not a suggestion, it’s merely an observation. If you want payback, try not to get caught.

Now the ‘politically correct’ way is to capture any PK by pressing “Print screen”, using Paint and Imageshack to host your image of the kill and adding the killer’s ID by clicking on his name and copy/pasting the URL. I strongly advise you to do that. That way, the DEM can help out and send bounty hunters to make his life hell –well, until the bounties on his head run out, of course. If you want to get the guy without using the PK reports, bounty hunts, etc… Just don’t tell me about it. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil… --John Cannonfodder 20:52, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

re: Party On!!!

Nah, I was refering to your MFD character. Now that your stationed in our area, does that mean that Malton is going to try to establish law & order here again. In the words of the famous zombie from Return of the Living Dead, "Send more copsss". Be cool my brother, and take it easy on the psycodelic mushrooms my Dutch friend.  :) --Balistic 00:02, 8 October 2006 (BST)

Well crap, that didn't go as planned.

You know, when I found you this afternoon in Marven Mall.....I just knew that I was going to try to get you.  :) Anyway, I did...but I hate to kill without first making a comment. UD glitch made me kill you waaaayy to easily. So I didn't get to say anything that you would hear. Sorry about that. Anyway, it was an honor. --A whale's vagina 19:15, 12 July 2007 (BST)

Heh, thanks for the message and the compliment... And indeed, I always appreciate a witty punch line before I get PKd. Better luck next time… *grin* BTW, I forgot to save a screenshot, so I’m afraid your kill won’t be written down in the Rogue’s gallery… --John Cannonfodder 10:14, 13 July 2007 (BST)

Ahh, don't worry about that. I like to run under the radar of RG anyway. --A whale's vagina 14:19, 13 July 2007 (BST)

Thanks From A Fan

John, You might not have seen me, but I saw you at the Hootenanny. I hung out next to you in the bar for a bit before wandering over to watch the zombies bobbing for apples. I wanted to thank you for being there in case things got ugly. A few people spotted me, though, so my cover is somewhat blown. Next time we'll hoist a few together and share some stories. Keep up the good work with the MFD. RadioSurvivor 05:18, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Heh, yeah, I did need to patch up quite a few folks when the zeds became hungry and decided to have a snack... Between that and the banter at the bar it was quite busy that evening. The Malton Zookeepers sure know how to throw a party… *grin* Anyway, I’ll be looking forward to drinking a Scotch with ya and swapping stories somewhere in the future; thanks for keeping Malton interesting with your broadcasts! --John Cannonfodder 11:14, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks John.

Thanks for replying, i was just sweeping the group links for nonactive links, good to see some MFD in the SE at this time. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 22:05, 2 June 2008 (BST)

Thanks!

Thanks for the sculpture, John! I put it in the gallery over at the Splain. --Griff 00:06, 22 August 2008 (BST)